Thread 7672820

How do I make myself focus on drawing when I have ADHD? I can't ever make myself draw for more than 20 seconds in intervals before stopping and looking at my phone or getting up and pacing around. It takes me so fucking long just to make a single sketch, that I can't even finish one in a single day, often taking multiple days. A lot of times I never even finish at all.

>>7672820 (OP)
Reminder to anyone reading this thread that this is deliberate bait. This faggot already has another thread open with this exact same OP and question. If you reply without sage in the options field, you are GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTS.

HE DOES NOT WANT HELP

HE WANTS REPLIES

He will bait you into helping him, then ragebait you into responding endlessly by arguing with everything you try to tell him. He does this ON PURPOSE to make you mad and insult him. Why?

BECAUSE HE ONLY WANTS REPLIES

>>7672860
I'm having genuine fucking struggles here. I need actual advice to help with this.

>>7672862
A classic attempt of his. As a warning to others, I will deconstruct this pathetic bait response of his.

REMEMBER: SAGE IN THE OPTIONS FIELD

He claims he's desperate and at his wit's end. He will claim that nothing has helped him. This is all bait into getting you to reply. He is pretending to be incredibly retarded and illogical in order for you to respond with insults, trolling, even genuinely trying to help him.

Again, OP DOES NOT CARE WHAT YOU SAY TO HIM, ONLY THAT YOU REPLY. Things like:
>how are you this retarded? ngmi
>are you on medication?
>if I was you I would have ended it
THESE THINGS MAKE HIM HAPPY. They are REPLIES. It DOES NOT MATTER if they are INSULTS or ADVICE. He wants ALL OF THEM.

Again: SAGE IN THE OPTIONS FIELD

This will be my last post on the matter.

Try using a pomodoro timer, and actually sticking to it.
Also, accept some responsibility and actually try, rather than simply blaming it on ADHD. If you're going to use the pomodoro timer, or take someone else's advice, don't just look at your phone and go "haha, hehe, whoops me and my silly ADHD!". Actually try.

Imagine answering seriously to this bait every single time its posted

>>7672872
There's some stretches where I can work for 20 minutes like in the pomdoro technique. The problem is that I'm still so fucking slow and I can't do much of anything. I'm still working on the line art to that infamous hat kid drawing that's been shown in all these advice threads. Then I'll pretty much lose all motivation and never touch it again as with everything else I try doing.

>>7672820 (OP)
You just need to come out and everything will be better!

>>7672820 (OP)
chose another field, art is not for you is you have adhd and you cant handle it. Alternatively, choose a different type of artistic style that isn't traditional-digital illustration, my suggestion: action art.
Or just do another thing, like sports or exercise, or play the drums.

>>7672902
I've heard this for literally every single hobby I've ever tried, including non creative ones or just anything in general.

I was able to write and hyperfocus on writing for 12 years, including role-playing.

Am I not cut out for literally anything then?

>>7672902
On top of this; there are tons of artists who have ADHD and are able to draw for hours and focus on their work. How come I can't do the same?

I still never even completed this fucking drawing. I don't know how to make myself focus and actually finish anything.

>>7672872
>>7672885
>>7672902
Congratulations, you took the bait even though it was pointed out to you. End your life.

>>7672927
Because you're in denial. You don't have what it takes. You said it yourself, you can't focus for long enough to finish a tiny sketch. Accept that you cannot be an artist and fuck off.

>>7673164
How about give me actual advice?

>>7673164
Then do I not like anything? How about giving me some actual advice that helps me work through this distraction and helps me get things done?

>>7673164
Okay, so then what do you call this? Me not drawing or focusing?

>>7672927
Here's what the lineart looks like.

>>7673251
I call it garbage. It took you like a week and over 400 posts in your thread just to get that, which would have taken any beginner 5 minutes to do. And the entire time, you whined and moaned about how torturous it was just to get that tiny sketch done. You cried constantly about how impossible it was the entire time.

You seriously need to give up. Honestly, and I have never done this before, you should unironically use AI. Zero skill required, it takes 20 seconds to fart out a prompt and get your image.

>>7673387
>which would have taken any beginner 5 minutes to do.
> And the entire time, you whined and moaned about how torturous it was just to get that tiny sketch done.

This is what real effort looks like, without talent.

Any reply here will fuel Howie's dopamine and keep him away from drawing.

>>7673387
>It's yet another "You don't actually like drawing, you just like the idea of it and you should give up because you're experiencing the tiniest bit of difficulty!" post

No, fucktard. I was having trouble because this was the very first time I had EVER done ANYTHING like this in my entire life. This was my very first digital drawing, my very first full on sketch to lineart drawing, my very first full body drawing using construction EVER. So, yes. That's why it took me so damn long to get to this point, because I had never done it before, so of course, it's going to take me longer than that to get any kind of work done. Yes, my ADHD makes it hard for me to focus on getting a sketch done, yes, my ADHD wants me to do other things.

Are you going to give me actual advice or not, now that I've clearly demonstrated that I've got what it takes to draw and use these methods correctly?

>>7673569
You have been drawing for a years and this is still all you could manage

>>7672927
You are focusing too much on copying line to line stop this insanity. Draw just by eye and rather train it like this. Later you can go copy line by line when you are good with estimations not now.

Any reply here will fuel Howie's dopamine and keep him away from drawing.

Like it even matters

>>7673574
Everyone keeps telling me the opposite. Copy line by line so I know where everything goes. Thats why it took me so long to complete this sketch.

>>7673160
I saged, but since you're a hypocritical retard who whines about people posting in these threads, while posting in this thread to do so, I'm not going to sage this time. Fuck you.
I Hope this thread reaches the bump limit, and is on page one as often as possible, just to fuck with you.

>>7673573
No, I haven't been drawing for years. That's the point. I had never done this before.

The weapon here is to make sure this thread eventually slides off every time. But there are people who still believe in this shit IN ADDITION to the fact that Howie is just going to bump his own thread with his low-effort trash. And then make a second thread as contingency. All with the board being as slow as it is. A sad state of affairs that could easily be solved by the right people. Very demoralizing. I pray that we recover from this.

>>7673387
This sounds like more of your impatience.

>>7673387
You know what? I'm starting off another sketch right now and finishing it just to spite you.

>>7673597
So you want Howie to take decades to reach a level where he can passably draw something he wants to draw?

>>7672820 (OP)
Have you found anything that works at all?

I drew fanart :3

>>7673605
Okay, so how do I make myself faster?
>>7673613
Listening to music increases my attention span by a little bit, along with cutting out things like YouTube.

>>7673590
Liar. You said before you have drawn for years

>>7673615
By asking the same questions, ignoring advice, and yelling at "trolls".

>>7673616
I drew for years as a kid, none as a teenager, and am now trying to get back into it as an adult.

>>7673618
And you never got better during all those years. There is no point wasting time trying to help you

>>7672879
newfags get dopamine from "helping" someone who seems more pathetic than themselves

>>7673621
Stop making excuses. Give me actual advice that helps me. I've clearly shown that I've got what it takes to draw.

>>7673595
I'm only replying because this thread is already top of the board but yes jannies need to actually do their job and rangeban cris and howie

>>7673624
You're right. You have made it. You don't need us anymore. Good luck on your journey now that you draw.

>>7673628
Stop making excuses. Give me actual advice that helps me. I've clearly shown that I've got what it takes to draw.

>>7673631
You're right. You have made it. You don't need us anymore. Good luck on your journey now that you draw.

>>7673632
Stop making excuses. Give me actual advice that helps me. I've clearly shown that I've got what it takes to draw.

>>7672820 (OP)
Is this an OC?

>>7673633
You're right. You have made it. You don't need us anymore. Good luck on your journey now that you draw.

>>7673635
Stop making excuses. Give me actual advice that helps me. I've clearly shown that I've got what it takes to draw.

>>7673387
Translation: I don't understand your problem and I don't want to put in the effort to listen and understand, so I will just create a strawman where I replace your problem with a more common and easily solved one and paint you as morally deficient to feel better about my lack of ability to give advice and be empathetic. Not only that, but I will gaslight you about your condition and gladly push you over the edge into suicide because your very existence causes me butthurt, as it reminds me of my limited understanding of the world and the human psyche. Please, I need you to either shut up or die, so that I can preserve my simple minded conceptualization of a just world where mental illnesses can be solved with a stabilizer and just trying harder.

Why are you guys being so mean to him? LOL
Just give him actual advice.

>>7673649
I advise you to break some global rules and get yourself banned from this board so you have the time to actually draw

>>7673649
Why don't you give him actual advice? Oh right, it's because you're him.

>>7673587
>i-i-i didn't take the bait
Shut the fuck up faggot, retards like you are just as bad as the baitposters. Fucking off yourself.

I'm posting in this thread only to keep Howie from drawing. He will have to reply and engage and that means he won't draw.

>>7673650
>>7673651
Not howie. Just a newfag. What's so bad about giving actual art advice on an ART board?

>>7673664
What advice have you given him?

>>7673665
I'm a /beg/. I need advice myself.

>>7673667
Well, you see, OP has been posting this thread for three years. He is copypasting his same replies. He never takes any advice. This thread is his hobby.

>>7673655
>Posted in the thread he hates so much again
Holy shit, someone pull the alarms. Retard Alert, Retard Alert!.
Also another bump and reply for this thread, because of you.

>>7673587
>I Hope this thread reaches the bump limit
If we assume you're a genuine poster, then enjoy trying to come up with the ways to handhold the troll through entire thread with no resu-
>>7673252
>actually drew something of effort
Hold on, it might not be Howie, but in this case we require more drawings.
ADHD is a bitch to deal with. Gotta focus on eliminating things that start you into dopamine spiral where you just end up doing things you didn't want to do (doomscrolling, listening to music all the time, daydreaming, reading wikis on things you will never do anyway). You need to make drawing as effortless and fun as possible. Good sleep is a must to help avoid sleepiness when trying to draw. Consider dopamine fasting.
Get diagnosed and get the meds.

>>7673677
>Get diagnosed and get the meds.
I'm already on medicine. Even still, it's really hard. I'm on 20mg of long acting adderall. Even on that, I still find it hard to focus without pacing around.

Currently, I'm tapering off of my paroextine to try a new anti depressant that makes me feel way better, which is what's helping me draw like this in the first place.

>>7673706
STOP DOING METH RETARD

>>7673739
Amphetamines are incredibly good at treating ADHD.

>>7673583
Yes. That's why it's so slow you are not going to enjoy drawing this way it's going to be suffering.

>>7672820 (OP)
just do low level copies.

>>7673649
They're being mean because they are losers. I am trying SO FUCKING HARD and they won't help me because they are jealous. I seriously hope everyone gets AIDS. Nobody ever gives me actual advice. Everyone just trolls me.

>>7673776
How about give me actual advice or go get AIDS from a hooker.

>>7673651
Ok fine you caught me. How about give me actual advice now?

>>7673578
thats why i post here. i love giving him bad advice on purpose and watching him follow it like a retard. i know he's a troll but he actually gets angry this way which gives me my dopamine hit

>>7673776
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>>7673674
>>7673669
>>7673665
How about give me actual advice?

>>7673706
>I'm on 20mg of long acting adderall
>20mg
>long acting
Prolly not enough.

>>7673927
I tried going higher one time, and it made me too jittery, felt like shit and irritable.

>>7672860
>>7672869
>>7673160
>>7673906
I swear this board has a residential schizophrenic that only seeks to misguide/insult/impersonate others. Please go back to your containment thread that is /dtg/.
>>7673251
If the foundations of your drawing is off, then there is very little you can do to save it. Unfortunately there's only the pair-minimum advice to give for this problem. Learn the fundamentals, try to incorporate perspective and 3D shapes as the drawing is very flat, and study some basic anatomy.
>>7550155
>>7643740
Here are some resources that can help you learn. Sorry that your thread has caught this kind of attention, OP.

its crazy how you can only draw when you're in a good mood. Its not like other work where you can just phone it in or even be depressed and still make money. I'm sitting here unable to fucking draw because of other problems in my life ruining my mood, so I can't draw to improve my situation and it cascades from there.

>>7673932
Change the meds

Can someone redpill me on Howie threads?

>>7673932
There's different types of stimulants. Try others at various doses. If those don't work, talk to your doctor about non-stimulant meds.

>>7673939
That is too long and I won't read it. Can you give me actual advice?

>>7674036
holy masterbait kek

>>7674081
I already told you I can't focus on anything without getting distracted. So I'm not going to read your huge post. Just give me actual advice instead of your short story.

>>7674108
I'm not the guy you think I am

Do whatever you did to draw hat kid, even if it's unfinished, it's a drawing

The main thing here is to get you drawing, not drawing good

that will come if you keep drawing

just keep drawing unfinished wips man, doesn't matter if they are bad or unfinshed, just keep drawing, they will get better with time alone, you don't even need to overthink it by processing the shortcomings of your skills, your brain will do that by itself.

>>7673251
Holy shit Howie drew something, truly a new era for /ic/, a testament for all begs, you too, can just draw.

>>7674117
It took me over a week to do that WIP. I can't focus for more than 20 seconds without getting distracted. I need actual advice, not stupid trolls wasting my time.

>>7674140
hey, one wip a week beats not drawing at all ;)

These threads are a goldmine. Lmao

>>7674140
Do more of what you did when you were drawing and do less of what you were doing when you weren't.
Glad I could help!

>>7672820 (OP)
This retard has multiple threads up on /adv/ asking the same thing he's been doing here. Is this really a sharty troll? Or do we have a new competitor for Cris?

>>7674140
>>7674108
This is a troll pretending to be me by the way. I've started work on a new drawing. Can you tell who the character is?

>mods deleted my thread but left the howie thread up
LMAO

>>7674287
So you can focus now? So you don't need advice anymore?

>>7674287
Oh great now you trolls are impersonating me again. Fuck all of you. All I want is actual advice.

>>7674308
>>7674287
>>7674140
Not me. Give me actual advice.

>>7674316
>>7674308
>>7674287
STOP. These trolls are NOT ME. Give me actual advice and stop trolling me.

>>7674359
>>7674316
>>7674308
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>>7674298
>>7674287
Oh for fuck's sake! Stop trolling and get out of my thread if you're not giving me actual advice.

>>7673677
>If we assume you're a genuine poster, then enjoy trying to come up with the ways to handhold the troll through entire thread with no resu-
You know, I was thinking I would just throw a few responses out there to bump the thread for a laugh and to annoy that dumbass, but I guess I had a monkey paw moment with this thread, but that only makes me laugh harder.

>>7674403
Didja skip your meds there anon?

How do I atually draw?

>>7674394
How do I leave this thread. Give me advice

Fuck all of you trolls. Leave my thread or give me actual advice.

>>7672860
sage is my fave

lmao this thread is a shithole
>>7673939
good one

>>7672820 (OP)
same lil bro, max i can do is 5 minutes, i dont have the patience for drawing (or pretty much anything other than gaming and scrolling) and ive used ritalin in the past and it didnt help so it makes me think that i dont have adhd

You trolls aren't helpful at all, all of you desperately need some BBC to shut you up. Anyways, it was Reg from Made in Abyss.

>>7672820 (OP)
>>7672907
>>7673624
>>7674316
>>7674359

Nee atashi shitteru yo kimi ga hitori "XX" shiteru no shitteru yo
Bikun bikun furuete sa koe mo dada more nanda wa
Shoujiki ni icchae yo bareteru nda shi icchaeyo kiiten no?
Futsuu futsuu hazukashii? minna kakushiteiru dake

Nee atashi shitteru yo kimi ga hitori "namida" shiteru no shitteru yo
Gusun gusun hekonde sa yowane hitokara in the night
Asa ga kuru made issho koosu motto naita tte
Nando datte uketomete ageru
Mou gaman shinaide ippai dashite ne

MWAH!
Onegai kimi ga just draw
Nagusamesasete sheiku sheiku ai no sainou de
Naite kurenakya karete shimau nureteitai
Nee ii deshou? nametotte nomihoshitai ndatteba

Why do you need two threads?

>>7674432
What are you not understanding anon?

Shit thread

>>7674954
Standard /ic/ thread

>>7674960
Howie General thread

>>7674960
unfortunately true, lol

How do I give advice. Please give me advice and no trolling

>>7674976
I can't focus long enough to give you advice on how to give advice.

>>7674976
How do I tell you how to give advice? Give actual advice please.

>>7675025
>>7675028
Stop trolling me and give actual advice on giving advice. There are many that are in the similar situation as me

See Jannies, you delete other threads yet keep this one up which is overt howie bait.

>>7675031
Idk who is trolling who anymore.

>>7675059
Jannies aren't here anymore, it's just automod but the jannies on /ic/ were retards to begin with so there's hardly a difference, way worse on boards like /vr/

>>7674976
>>7675025
>>7675028
>>7675031
In case you guys don't know. None of these people are me. Here's what I've been working on.

>>7675195
Wtf you emulated my style perfectly. Or did you use a lora? Please stop trolling and give me some advice now.

>>7675195
Stop trolling and give me advice on giving advice

>>7675195
You really think you can just copy my style and filename and I won't call you out? I seriously need fucking help, I can't focus for more than 20 seconds and all I get in the way of advice is trolls pretending to be me. FUCK OFF. I'm at the end of my rope here just give me actual advice.

>>7675389
You got out howie'd by a howie. It's over

>>7675389
Oh no no no

Starting line art

Bump.

>>7675493
You're not him. He doesnt draw nearly as much as you have.

>>7675606
He should get all the advice from now on. I think he deserves it more because he draws more

>>7675606
Yeah the real Howie took an entire week just to get a shitty looking head, no way Howie can all of a sudden do a full body in 24 hours

Howie will never be banned because 4chan is an advertising site first and foremost. His threads always max out so his presence encourages posting, which means retards are loading ads and making the site money. Howie is a much more valuable asset than you or I, and yes we're all just products at the end of the day.

Yesterday I saw a thread complaining about howie and wanted to post in it today. Imagine my surprise when I couldn't find it, when threads last for weeks here without being bumped. The jannies nuked the thread right away because it was threatening their pay model (make people argue about nothing and solve captchas). So its not that jannies are lazy, they're definitely here patrolling the board, but making a thread talking about how shit /ic/ is and how to get rid of one of their main attractions is grounds for a 3 day ban most likely.

You WILL NOT complain about the lack of drawing on /ic/, you WILL drive traffic to 4chan, you WILL NOT make it and leave this shithole.

Are we here only to suffer?

>>7676040
There is other chan, you know.

Im' not this schizo op but what book will teach me how to draw when I have no energy or drive? I love drawing, its just that I love procrastinating more. Drawing for ten minutes doesn't work, it just makes me sit still out of spite until the time runs out.

>>7676185
kill yourself

>>7676185
do you have nothing going on in your head?
do you just suck so bad you dont wanna do it?
at the very least i hope youve made sure your lifestyle isnt utter shit too
eat, exercise, sleep etc

>>7676063
I don't think he ever said that, he ran this site basically at a loss for the entire time

Hi guys do you like this drawing. It isnt mine but I like it .

>>7675102
There was a thread with only 2 replies saying that they should ban the threads, one of the replies were "name them" and when I went to find them most were gone. The next day (or a couple hours later) There were like 3 howie threads excluding this one and the original thread was deleted so there has to be a janny here- at least on the weekends.

>>7676185
I know this is bait (you) but if you guys are looking for how to draw when you're constantly procrastinating it's simple rules that will allow you to like
>I'm not allowed on 4chan until i've done 1 hr of drawing
Every thing you enjoy can be a carrot/reward, but make sure you start small and work your way to more productive goals like
>I'm not allowed what I like until I finish this placing down these values
Then give yourself a time limit with your vice.

>>7673387
lmafo you really pissed off the retard with this one
theres really no rebuttal to this

>>7673387
This destroys the howie

>>7672820 (OP)
HOWIE
SLIDE
THREAD

>>7672820 (OP)
Bump

I love this thread

>>7673387
How do you feel about this?
I just finished it a week ago.
>>7685340

>>7687874
This... This is great.

>>7687874
cute stuff x

>>7687874
oh my god PLEASE email me that file! you guys are sick!

>>7687874
me likes a lot

>>7687874
TBWA, you rock!

>>7687874
very very plastic

>>7672820 (OP)
ADHD isn't real, hope this helps

>>7687874
You are right man that was a fucking trip lol.

>>7687874
i'm happy that he drawn <3