Another large "artist" was caught using AI. It's becoming a lot more common nowadays. It's weird that it's mainly the BA(blue archive) fanartist that get caught.

>>7677540 (OP)
I saw we go back to trad art with a pencil and paper so we can easily get rid of AI cucks

>>7677543
aw man i just got used to digital...

>>7677540 (OP)
I don't get why an actual artist would use AI on their social media.
I'm fine with it in their professional work, it even makes sense in that context, but why use it in your 'personal work', the drawings that should be keeping your skills sharp?

Oddly enough, I've also noticed that it seems to be a trend that the Japanese are the most likely to be AI artists.
I've seen more Japanese AI artists than from any other nation, is this just me?

>>7677547
>Oddly enough, I've also noticed that it seems to be a trend that the Japanese are the most likely to be AI artists.
8/10 they aren't japanese, there is a huge thing where fags pretend to be Japanese artist, even some of the anons here plan on doing that themselves because it will get them more followers.
>I'm fine with it in their professional work, it even makes sense in that context
that's how you get blacklisted and fired.

>>7677540 (OP)
Kwab

>>7677547
He has a Patreon and needs to post new stuff or else he will lose subscribers.
He gave up but he still wants the money.

>>7677540 (OP)
>normies are still looking for melties to detect whether something is sloppa or not
Heh. Wait until they realize that a noticeable portion of artists are already tracing over sloppas.

>>7677547
If I'm a professional, I'll use whatever tools I get to use to get work done faster. Why should a professional listen to what a hobbyist feel?

>>7677573
Why would I listen to what a hack has to say. Same rules for everyone

>>7677540 (OP)
witch hunts are boring, but having more artists show timelapses and process would be cool

>>7677560
>that's how you get blacklisted and fired.
Depends. I don't think concept artists, who used to photo bash, would give a shit.
If you're a graphic designer and your client has little money, I don't think they'd give a shit if you proposed using AI to make their designs more flash than it would have been otherwise.
I don't think many game companies would mind using AI for some textures, nor do I think consumers would mind that either, particularly for large games.

If we're talking just straight up using a AI design on a shirt or something from a big brand name company, then yeah, they're not going to be happy having a legally murky piece of work associated with them - more so if they're a youth brand, given how younger people are quite vehemently against AI generated works.

So I'm essentially saying it's a case by case kind of thing, but generally speaking, it's probably fine to use AI in most professional scenarios.
Ah, and don't think I'm talking about using AI as is, I'm talking about using AI as a base and editing it - using it as part of a process for the final image, not to create the whole ass image (though, again, it's case by case how acceptable that would be, like with the aforementioned video game textures it'd probably be fine).

>>7677568
So essentially a con man.

>>7677573
Then you get fired for jeopardizing the company with infringement like a retard. You do what you're told, not whatever is fastest.

>>7677543
unfortunately lots of trad 'artists' are tracing or referencing AI art too

>>7677540 (OP)
BA has lots of fanart so It makes it easier to make AI generated work, and also the fan base is super autistic which makes it easier to get caught

>>7677547
Japanese are somewhat less anti-AI, but a some of them probably fake being JP

>>7677543
Or you can do what I do, I call it hyper lines.

>>7677588
You're retarded. Nobody cares what artists think, legal says what you can or can't do.
>I don't think many game companies would mind using AI for some textures
Capcom literally paid off a photographer a couple years ago over textures because some retard couldn't be fucked to do his job making them, retard.
It's not about muh feefees

>>7677603
nta, an arknights artist got fired for using a dragon wing texture that was created by capcom.

Japanese government heads are shiling hard for AI. Majority of the (normal) artists oppose it and the consumers don't care as long as it looks good.

>>7677611
It's always the consumers fault

>>7677543
AI will be able to do trad soon once the Cyborgs are made. you're going to have to do better than that.

>>7677547
>I've seen more Japanese AI artists than from any other nation, is this just me?
It's not just you. They have more options for making money through art such as DLsite and Fanza which has plenty of AI content

>>7677609
That's what I'm saying, companies don't want retards shitting where they eat, and with AI not only is the artist liable to fuck then over, the artist himself may not be aware they're doing it

A.I. art is real art. This will be accepted in 10-20 years. No point in fighting the change.

>>7677603
>Nobody cares what artists think, legal says what you can or can't do.
Yes, I was taking into account that it's up to the company, ultimately... I just didn't think I'd need to outright say it.

>Capcom literally paid off a photographer a couple years ago over textures because some retard couldn't be fucked to do his job making them, retard.
So no game companies are using AI? Is AI copyrighted? Who owns that copyright? You can't make such a disconnected hollow argument and then try to attack other people's intelligence, it just comes across as embarrassing...
Especially when your examples could just as much be used as advocacy for using AI, as against using it.

>It's not about muh feefees
Christ you're a try hard, who are you trying to impress here? I think you're the one who's got the most feefees riding on discussion.

>>7677632
Doubt it. It's similar to saying that 3D printing a model that isn't yours will be accepted as a form of sculpting, because you pressed the print button.
It'll likely be more accepted in general, but it won't be considered art unless people do something interesting with it.

>>7677609
>>7677603
All the artist had to do was run the wing texture through an A.I. again and there's be no way to tell. You idiots are here bitching and coping while the best artists are doubling their workflow by photobashing/tracing A.I. elements into their art, all while none of you can even see it. Least of all normies or corpos.

>>7677540 (OP)
Why are they keep doing this?

>>7677540 (OP)
Most accounts with that many followers just buy Jeet followers on BHW threads.

>>7677647
>AI? Is AI copyrighted? Who owns that copyright? You can't make such a disconnected hollow argument and then try to attack other people's intelligence, it just comes across as embarrassing...
No and nobody, retard, at least do the due diligence before acting retarded, you stinky jeet

>>7677632
Yeah and printers are the real artist :^)

>>7677632
fighting makes me feel good though.

>>7677540 (OP)
Redpill me on the BA fandom, Ive been thinking in jumping ship to that fandom since the one Im currently drawing for isnt giving me numbers, and BA always seems to be trendy on Pixiv, is that a good course of action?

>>7677758
the idea of being an artist whose entire indicator for success is "numbers" and jumping from fandom to fandom chasing for them rather than just drawing what i want sounds so incredibly fucking grim lmao

>>7677726
>No and nobody, retard, at least do the due diligence before acting retarded, you stinky jeet
Holy shit, how can one be so confidently stupid? Yes that's MY point! It's not copyrighted, therefore it's free to use as a texture, you stupid fucking moron.

You brought up capcom getting into trouble for using copyrighted material, so where can capcom get easy public domain assets that fit their needs perfectly? No need to answer because I know you'd somehow fuck it up; AI, they could use AI in this scenario.

>Game companies would want to own the copyright for all their textures
Nope. Why do you think they were happy to use materials that weren't there's anyway? There's plenty of assets in a game that companies wouldn't be too concerned in regards to their own ownership of.
It saves them time and budget.

It's fine that you're morally oppossed to AI, but quite being so fucking stupidly contrarian regarding its possible and current professional uses.

>>7677773
holy esl

>>7677773
You're retarded, nigger.
AI lacking copyrighted isn't a good thing and doesn't mean it isn't infringing on existing copyright, Midjourney is literally in the process of being sued over its output.
You're definitely a jeet with that reading comprehension.

>>7677783
You're the dipshit who thought I was legitimately asking who owned an AI image's copyright, so you have no right to attack anyone's reading comprehension.
>AI lacking copyrighted isn't a good thing and doesn't mean it isn't infringing on existing copyright, Midjourney is literally in the process of being sued over its output.
True, and this is why many companies are currently avoiding using AI, but you act as if no companies are using AI, when they most certainly are (big ones included).

>>7677777
>You're definitely a jeet with that reading comprehension.
>holy esl
>I have no response, so I'm going to call you 'esl'.
I'm assuming you're the samefag. Nothing I despise more than the same cliche, passe, unoriginal response, that's so fucking overdone that even an AI would not spew out such a derivative response.
Get. A. New. Script. Faggot.

>>7677773
>Game companies would want to own the copyright for all their textures
Uh, yeah, retard

taking photos of yourself or objetcs, or places, tracing photos or pictures from magazines, using real life models, copy 1:1 from grids and pictures for portraits, make plastiline models for 3d reference, using 3d models, using other people works as reference, using other people painting technique and color combinations as reference, reference another people work, style, theme and inconic imagery, render color with 3d software, render shadows and lights with software, animating with other people movement as reference, learning by copy other people works or drawings parctices or comics-mangas like every japanese do, using ia to strike the poses like a 3d software, or paint over, or render a drawing and paint over, or 1:1 reference with a lora of your style.
Idk bro i guess people choose the looser path and pros just do their work.

>>7677632
A.I. human is real human. This will be accepted in 10-20 years. No point in fighting the change.

>>7677824
>taking photos of yourself
having a remote shooting camera with phone app to pose myself for reference has been a miracle

>>7677547
>AI artists

>>7677601
buy an ad

>>7677809
Uh nope, fuckwit. Why would they use stock, or public domain, or AI images if they wanted to own the copyright to ALL their texture images?
The gall of a mouth breathing, drooling, low IQ, chimp such as yourself to call anyone retarded is astounding.

>>7677573
Yes, goy train your own replacement

>>7677842
Exactly, retard, they don't. They spend money making them over and over instead. Every time there's a copyright issue, the artist was paid to make original assets and cut corners.
Why even engage when you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about?

>>7677842
>Why would they use stock, or public domain, or AI images
they don't, artists and designers just pass them off as original work and always pay for it in the end
if you wanted stock images, you'd have an intern do it, not pay a designer/artist to do monkey work your nephew could do for free when they're already behind schedule as they always are

>deleted all their media and bunkered down to patreon with raised prices
classic

>>7677601
very cool anon

>>7677601
>I call it hyper line
? explain i see just lines

>>7678006
deleting is admission of guilt, what a loser move of them

>>7677540 (OP)
"Pinup artist makes cheap content cheaply" and other totally unexpected revelations YOU WONT BELIEVE

Looks like the AI fag is mad.

>>7678161
This has to be fake

>>7678161
Kwab

>>7678161
Holy deflection. Umm..you use grok so me using AI to make is suddenly a-okay. What an insufferable faggot

>>7678161
How did it impact her Patreon?

>>7678161
>threads
The funny part, you can tell this is some faggot that browses here. There have been fags on /ic/ that say they post AI and some even defending it.

>>7677540 (OP)
Hmm looking at his old stuff looks like he knows how to draw at least a little bit. So what gives?

>>7678161
Lmao. muh "NO ONE CARES"-Cope

>>7678175
Laziness and wanting to ease the workload hoping no one would notice

>>7678167
I mean, she's not wrong there. The wokescolder anti-AI retards have always been hypocrites.

But assuming everyone uses gork is quite the assumption. There was a better way to put this than "If you love COMMUNISM so much why do you keep using MONEY??"

Ai is going to be like photography but better, smarter and more appealing than ever.

>>7678184
>The wokescolder anti-AI retards have always been hypocrites
why do you troons always say this? Not liking ai doesn't make you woke or a lib, shitter.

How is this thread still up.

>>7678184
If she thinks that using AI is okay then why hide using it and only start coping like this once she gets exposed

>>7678192
It's fine if you don't like AI, as like an opinion.

But it's retard speak to make objective moral statements that include the phrase "real human soul".

>>7678196
She's kind of a retard as well, I'm not defending that. I really don't expect much from the white void waifu peddlers regardless of how they make it.

>>7678188
Unironically. I don't really think people are going to be able to tell in the future. It is that simple.
The mods over at danbooru are already having a hard time wondering if someone is an actual artist or not. And I think it's only going to get worse
People like Picrel can fool quite a lot of people, You can't really tell if it's AI anymore if you have a good enough prompter

>>7678203
I can usually tell when something is AI just by the lightining which has that certain look to it. I can't really say what it is exactly but I can tell it's AI

>>7678214
But that is the thing. You can't just go by vibes, you need to really tell if someone is using AI by a methodical way. Otherwise it's just fighting at shadows at this point.
And you might call actual artists who aren't using AI because of those same Vibes.

>>7678203
can always tell its ai because they only use it for coomer stuff

>>7678214
You realize that's like saying you can recognize criminals because they're always being arrested.

>>7678203
>People like Picrel can fool quite a lot of people, You can't really tell if it's AI anymore if you have a good enough prompter
Unironically, it's because it looks like "nobody" actually drew it
And that's the funny part, it's just generic big booby animu girl, there's literally no distinguishing element that narrows it down to an actual person

>>7678219
That is fair, but look at this. Another coomer stuff but this one looks like it was done by an actual artist. Now, do you think going solely by vibes of "It's coomer art, and it has that style to it" Would you be able to tell this, from a glance that it was done by an artist.
>>7678224
I agree. But at the end of the day there are a lot of artists who draw something along those lines. Is it really that hard to be honest if you used AI?

I have no interest in this generic anime art style that 95% of Pixiv artists use. It's absolutely soulless and I'm glad they get fucked by Ai.
Western individualism is winning here.

>>7678228
Personally, I think this whole thing could be avoided if people were brave enough to just call boring art boring. We spent way too much effort mythologizing the ability to draw squiggles and drenching everything in feelgood bullshit that you need to write a dissertation to justify hating something.

It shouldn't matter if something is made with AI or not. If it's shit art, it's just shit art, end of story.

>>7678228
This one has sense of purpose to it, that AI slop doesn't always have. The coloring overlaps the lines which is odd touch of personality that AI wouldn't make unless instructed specifically which hints at actual artist. That cake looks at closer look quite barebones which AI wouldn't make so hastily. I'd say this one could be real, but I'm assuming you'll say I'm wrong and that it is in fact AI but that's just the impression I got from the drawing

>>7678219
>>7678214
>>7678228
Imagine if they simply drew over the AI generated image, correcting minor things. You would never be able to tell then.

The fact is, a few years ago people smugly assured themselves A.I. can only create flawed art. "The fingers, the eyes, the lighting" etc., but none of those are issues now. A few years from now it will be entirely imperceptible what is AI drawn. Companies won't care, they will simply hire based on the portfolio.

Either adapt to AI, or fall behind. This is already true for many prolific profitable artists. You simply don't even know they're using AI because they're skilled enough to hide it.

>>7678228
>Is it really that hard to be honest if you used AI?
It is, it’s more of an ego thing than monetary gain. It’s like gym rats that would lie about using steroids. AI faggots lie about using it, they will gain even more money compared to their peers as well, people don’t like being scammed and hate paying for pre-made shit.

You could just trace over existing art if that's what you want. Why does it need to be Ai?

>>7678247
>2 more weeks
Pajeet, youre still around?

>>7678247
>Imagine if they simply drew over the AI generated image
I wish they actually would. trying to pass off uncorrected prompts as if you drew anything is lazy as shit

>>7678244
I don't like the whole "It's shit art". Some people really like drawing 1girl with various poses. That is how some people are build. Yeah sure, you could call it boring but that is the way it goes, art should be about who you are and what you want to do.
>>7678245
Oh not at all anon. I think that pic was done by an actual artists, at least they have no flagging neither on gelbooru or danbooru. I guess I wanted to highlight that if you are still on the mindset of finding mistakes on every art that you look at, you are going to sooner or later throwing an artists under the buss.

>>7678252
copyright + easily detected you retard

>>7678235
I've been observing a large scale scam that has been happening on pixiv that no one seems to care about for some time now. The basic gist of the scam is that someone is trying to pass AI generated art as their own there using countless accounts hoping to make support site bucks. You can observe this yourself. They always have the same modus operandi 1. They have support site in their name 2. They say they are posting their old works on pixiv as to explain how they post so much art 3. They always have comments disabled. 4. You can tell it's AI but they don't tag it as such and sometimes they even have same prompts but different artstyles in different accounts

I don't know why pixiv doesn't seem to care in the slightest. These accounts have been doing this for a long time now

>>7678263
You can be a boring and shit person. Just because it's 'you' doesn't mean it's not pointless and dumb. That's cope and self-justification to never improve. Your self isn't a static thing, if you're a shit person, you're free to change into a better one that makes better art.

>>7677540 (OP)
do I need to remind you, AI is the great equalizer, love it or hate it, we'll still use it

we're not going to put up on long, confusing, misleading rules we have to follow on art tutorials just to get better on this damn profession to get internet points while the so called ARTIST can get away with tracing

I love this form of art and I will do whatever I can to get it

>>7678265
post examples, this sounds interesting

>>7678161
Comments turned off?
KWAB

>>7678282
Based. No rules, only tools.

>>7678286
You know she'll be going full ivory tower mode now avoiding all critism

>>7678289
And she's going to keep making money, and keep making art. All while crabs on /ic/ cry about "authenticity" all the way to irrelevance.

why do

bots always

space their

posts like

this anyway

>>7677588
>Using AI as part of the workflow
Like photobashing or 3D, many artists have already been doing this. It's covers up the skillset that the artist is lacking so the artist could focus on what he's good at. The result is you have a nicer or overall better looking artwork. You've probably even noticed that why some artists who are good at drawing girls but aren't great at drawing guys suddenly being able to do both. Might have gotten some assistance there but desu, this is how AI should be used.

>>7678161
So he is basically committing it and he says he loves prompting ai.
If he is such a proud prompter, why lying?

>>7678284
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133337072
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133541654
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133501530
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133322464
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133266829
This is just the tip of the iceberg, but what outs them easily is that they sometimes use niche tags that rarely get art and then like half of the whole page is just this guy's different accounts. Notice how they're all trying to sell their support site scam in similar way and how the comments are off. I don't get why nothing is being done about this. Some of these accounts are like 2 years old

>>7678295
Pretty much this. In a week all of this will be forgotten and she will still be making bank by posting and not really talking about this drama anymore. Much like Sheyxo who has kept it all to himself and ignored everything around him.
And to be honest, more and more people are going to keep using AI within their artworks. Especially seeing just how much money they can make by using AI alongside some knowledge about knowing how to draw

>>7677547
Spam is how you get money and followers not quality, using AI is the best way so far. Also Japs already trace and plagiarize most of their stuff anyway; they weren't gonna turn their noses at it.

>>7678319
If anything the ragebaiting will bring more attention from people who dont care about AI use. Lovely stuff altogether

>>7677540 (OP)
How does no one here know about this schizo? He scammed so many comms in 2023 when he first got caught. Then he double downed and blocked everyone mentioning AI even when it’s obvious
https://x.com/kamaniki/status/1626292751540326401?s=46&t=7T_gahviiNrd6QIeX8CXDQ

>>7678367
Proof that no one cares, more people will do it in the coming years, it will soon be accepted.

>>7678372
if anything his downfall will be his attitude above all ironically enough

>>7678161
the "i got caught but have to damage control"
>ur schizophrenic
>oh the irony
>le gatekeepers
>u rage
>thx 4 le free promo
>am i rite fellow artists? we love art
This is exactly the reason why we need internet ID
i can't with these niggas anymore

All support sites should ban you if you get found out to using AI without disclosing it

>>7678377
They'd do all that shit even with internet ID, just you wont be able to call them out on it anymore because of "harassment and bullying"

>>7678373
>his downfall
Doubt. Remember that artist Illiya (sp?) that many years ago /ic/ loved to shit on for tracing/photobashing? He's still a published professional artists who makes a lot of money.

It's funny to think about how inconsequential all of that was in the face of current A.I. changes. Nobody even gives a shit about photobashing or layer tracing anymore. In the future, nobody will care about A.I. use either.

>>7678361
Pretty much yes, If this grifter plays it right she might actually be able to make it work
People don't care about art and are only in this for the money anyways, might as well cut the middle man and go straight for money and followers

>>7678387
Oh yeah, its very obviously traced over genned images. The worst part is some of the audience knows and doesn't care and will pay for it still. At this point though, everything is just going to be an amalgamation of AI or referenced/traces of AI. It feels like my enjoyment for looking at artists' works are all gone now desu

>>7678385
it's only harassment and bullying if it would be unwarranted
In cases where the accusations are visible, it's completely justified
gacha shit is probably full of ai sloppers given how every single post is pushed by shills

with IDs they can't have multiple profiles they can fall back to if one gets called out

>>7678372
People really don't care. I made back to back posts expressing ambivalence toward AI, and I lost a whole 0.2% of my followers by the end of it. As with any of these idpol things, it's just a minuscule amount of people who can't shut the fuck up.

>>7678389
>It feels like my enjoyment for looking at artists' works are all gone now desu
I was thinking about the same thing desu... I don't want to have such an bleak outlook on things but it's really annoying knowing that people don't care about drawing at all and just want to rush to the finish line with AI slop or whatever bullshit they use.

>>7678372
no one cares because most of Xitter traffic are bots, not real people

>>7677632
Indian hands typed that.

>>7678389
>everything is just going to be an amalgamation of AI or referenced/traces of AI
Art is already an amalgamation of referenced/traced previous arts/photos. What difference does it make if AI is now a part of the process?

Adapt or die.

>>7678407
You the new guy?
These ragebaits, or at least what you discord saars believe to be, don't work anymore, never did.

Have a (you) on the house.

>>7678407
At this point, we don't need anything just wait for the next model to gen anything you need.

>Adapt or die.
I still have yet to see someone actually incorporate gens into their workflow that make a difference compared to just genning it outright and touching it up manually here and there

>>7678400
There were recent accusations of Call of Duty and Hearthstone using AI assisted art. People made a big fuss but nothing happened, and nothing will, because a good artist will be able to hide it so well you'd never be able to definitively prove they used AI.

Even if corporate got wind of this, they'd just tell their artists to make it less "AI looking". At the end of the day, the only thing corporations/commissioners will care about is
>quality of final product
>time/cost it took to create it

Being able to draw a straight line without a ruler might make you a better artist, but no one gives a shit. No rules, only tools.

Imagine wanting to have standards and not allowing this hack to make mockery of their hobby and many people's whole careers just because she want's to be half assed lazy piece of shit who wants to have the cake and eat it too

So did some tech fuckup happen recently? Every time we get a shill thread it's because they're trying to do some kind of damage control

>>7678418
You post needs more time in ChatGPT. Try again.

>>7678407
People like you are the filth of humanity, dragging everyone else into your pit of shit. You should renounce being human and just become part of the machine

>>7678412
The thing is that corpos want to replace manual labor with the machine and hiring an artist to fix ai slop is an oxymoron, hence why no one who uses ai will ever go the extra mile to fix generated images because at that point they might as well just do the whole picture themselves, ultimately always outing themselves as sloppers by hoping that no one notices.
>but cod and hs
dead franchises
no one gives a shit about the games themselves

>>7678428
>You should renounce being human and just become part of the machine
God I wish I wasnt human, if I had a mechanical arm I could draw all I wanted to without having wrist pain.
If I didnt have to eat and sleep I could just do whatever I wanted to.
The Mechanicus cant take power soon enough.

>>7678433
> hence why no one who uses ai will ever go the extra mile to fix generated images because at that point they might as well just do the whole picture themselves
Clueless. They are hiring artists who know how to use AI as part of the workflow. Instead of constructing the entire image, they will generate a wooden table, a wall from a tavern inn, a tavern mug, then photobash all of it with some elves and dwarves on top. Also going to address this:
>>7678411
>I still have yet to see someone actually incorporate gens into their workflow
You will never see artists admit to it because of the backlash they'd get from crabs and whiners. But they are doing it, you'd be an idiot not to. Nobody will notice that you hand drew the wooden table, and nobody will care. So why spend an hour constructing/lining/coloring it when you can spend 10 minutes generating it and brushing it up? Compound this time/energy save over hundreds of drawings and it's a no brainer to use AI.

>CoD/HS dead franchises
lol, now you know this guy is coping. Anti-AI dinosaurs are so desperate to believe the world will rally with them against AI when it's already being accepted in the professional world.

>"AI is for replacing artists.... BUT AKSHUALLY everyone is using ai because backlash BUT AKSHUALLY ur a dinosaur"
wow anon has no arguments and defaults to inane contrarianism and insults

never seen this happen before
lmao

Why would you generate a wooden table by frying your graphics card when you can paint that shit in 5 minutes?

>>7678446
>they will generate a wooden table, a wall from a tavern inn, a tavern mug, then photobash all of it with some elves and dwarves on top.
This is a retarded and badly inefficient way of doing that. Image generators have 2 main problems
>takes multiple attempts of finetuning the promot to get it to generate what you want
>even then, it's likely to get it wrong anyways
I'm not anti-AI but I am yet to find an actual use case for them aside from as reference image generators.

>>7678451
anon with no brains defaults to inane insults and running away
lmao

>>7678455
Here you can see the disingenuity of these retards. He couldn't paint a non-beg looking wooden table to save his life and he thinks it'll take "5 minutes". And "fry your graphics card", lmfao, there are online programs that can generate it with high level precision and detail.

As you can, these guys are just bitter stupid people mad that other people are finding success while they're stuck "grinding fundies" on /ic/ getting nowhere.

>>7678161
if people who use AI art supposedly so proud of it, why do they hide their usage of it? There's plenty of artists who say they use AI and people don't give them nearly as much shit as those that do this and then get caught

>>7678455
>see people using AI to generate random janky-ass furniture
>"bro it's such a time saver"
>they spend 30 minutes typing 'wooden table from top down perspective, high resolution, not weird, no extra legs'
>AI gives them some nightmare IKEA chimera
>table has 5 legs, 2 shadows, and is slightly melting
>"it's okay I'll just clean it up"
>spends another 15 mins masking, warping, repainting
>finally looks kinda usable
>still doesn't match the style
>meanwhile I already finished the table, the chairs, and emotionally bonded with them
>AI bros still adjusting saturation
>“i-it saved me time bro I swear”

>>7678461
Im not really sure that grinding fundies is a bad thing in this context. If your argument is that a good artist that integrates ai into their workflow is the winner then why would you want to discourage others from learning the fundies

>>7678459
>>takes multiple attempts of finetuning the promot to get it to generate what you want
>>even then, it's likely to get it wrong anyways
This is wrong, the best AI tools are able to take a rough sketch of lines/contours and use it as a base. If you have a preferred color scheme, you can upload it as a reference image. It will take you 1 minute to sketch out the draft, upload it with a reference image, and the AI will spit out 10 different variations for you to photobash.

It seems that while everyone here is so assured that AI will be rejected by society, they're unaware of how advanced the tools have become. This isn't "chatgpt generate me a table". These are AI tools specifically made for artists, and judging from the tutorial videos I've seen on youtube, you would never be able to tell if a professional artists uses it just from their work.

moe and coomsloppers dont deserve better. they are already amongst the lowest, literally just consumers.

Having autism is a bliss.
None of this demorilizing warmongering and propaganda works on me and I can just do whatever I want.

>>7678467
>some nightmare IKEA chimera
Id use that DESU.

>>7678470
that's just img2img

>>7678467
nah sister
EVERYONE IS DOING IT AND AKSHUALLY WE ALL REPTILIANS

AI bros will keep making money and getting all the industry jobs. This is already the trend and will continue.

>wanting to work in the industry
lmao
aishitters really dont draw

>>7678482
brainless schizo

>the ai tranny admits defeat
mogged once again by a beg

>>7677547

now that I think about it, I neversee japanese beg art, unless its a popular meme. There must be pressure there to look your best so people are more inclined to use ai to boost their skills and hide their true art, so drawing ai for their personal art is not weird to them. Its only weird if you consider drawing to be a form of self expression, which it probably isn't for these twitter artists.

>>7678489
>I never see japanese beg art
there's ton of them on pixiv what are you talking about

>>7677601
I couldn't draw lines this smooth in a million years.

>>7678470
Image to image still requires you to do things like fiddling with the prompt if you're aiming for a specific output. It doesn't fix the 2 issues I mentioned, just improves it a bit.

>>7677547
it's the same line of thinking of why ai retards keep spamming; it's because they desperately want any kind of attention and slop gives them an easy way to farm it
They have no soul, no hobbys, no personality, no standards, no taste, everything they do is for the sake of getting something out of anything and they are more miserable than your average boomer + they are most likely brown, so they attach themselves to the technology that makes them seem smart because proompting n shit, to hypercope with the waste of oxygen they are.

>>7678492
I don't go on pixiv so it doesn't exist.

>>7678489
i feel like most people there develop art skills as children, feels like you rarely see a japanese person learning to draw as an adult

>>7678500
there are people who wasted their whole lives gaming and probably never drew much because they had yugioh or some other insane cardgame taking up their creative energy.

>uuuuuhm akshually ai generating is pretty heckin difficult because you have to type words and wait for the digital lottery machine to shit out the exact image you want and no, i'm not addicted to gambling! hehe artists are over! adapt and die! lol lmao! pls reply

>>7678367
ist not that nobody cares, its that the world is just big. someone in the 50s could go robbing convenience stores for a good while and get away with it. Does nobody care? No, he's just hiding in a big world. There are so many people on twitter that its easy to just rebrand and change your name once you're caught and build your way back up with all new fans.

What i don't understand is, if they want to use AI why use "no AI" in the bio

>>7678507
you're expecting gas brains to grasp macro concepts when all they do is let chatgpt speak for them
big mistake

>>7678514
if someone said that they were selling you pots made out of shit, would you buy them?

>>7678514
same reason the anti anime crowd on twitter ends up being busted for cheese pizza

>>7678203
Even as I prooompt a lot so I am able to distinguish AIsloopa or not fairly easily but it's also getting tiresome and annoying to sift through it. In the end I just don't bother looking at 'gorgeous' artwork unless it has something interesting or funny to say. Or if it's unique enough that the artist's flavor or preferences influences the artwork greatly instead of the typical coomerslop.

>>7678203
ai or not its still mediocre slop not worth looking at
i cant even beat my meat to this
what a waste of time

If AI is so great, why do people try to hide the fact they use it? Also where do I find the tutorials for using these AI artist programs?

>>7678548
Im so curious to see what the workflow of someone is for illustration working ai into their process. If it really is just img2img garbage into touching up im gonna lose it.

>>7678548
because of le heckin backlash bro
like wtf why cant people just give ME money for something they don't want when i tell them the thing they might be paying for is not something they want to pay for?
I'm not scamming them bro i'm just very smart

>be youtuber commentator
>keep repeating how no one can tell AI art from real art
>the 2000IQ sloppers believe it
>they get caught and give youtube grifters more drama content
i think ai bros are just victims of their own intellectual prowess

I'm impressed how active this board becomes the moment Ai drama is on the catalog.

>>7678560
Another reason AI is based, the entertainment value of the seethe. AI chads stay winning

As a hobbyist you can simply ignore Ai. Do your own thing on Patreon or whatever and get paid directly by people who dislike Ai as much as you do.

>>7678560
I mean with the IP counter gone you can't even tell how much of it is rabid samefagging

>>7678571
This. Why complain when there's nothing you can do to change anything. Just focus on yourself and draw your own thing.

>>7678577
The only legitimate complaint with AI I can agree with is how it's monetized

>>7678560
"It's the uncertainty that perhaps something that appears to be alive actually isn't. On the other hand, it might be the uncertainty that something that doesn't appear to be alive actually is. Do you want to know why people are so unnerved by [AI]? It's because the [AI] is modeled after them. In other words, [AI] is no less than humanity itself. That gives rise to fear. Fear that humans might be reduced to simple mechanisms and materials. It's the fear that the human phenomenon is fundamentally devoid of meaning and purpose."

>>7678589
I embrace the machine. The future is bright.

>>7678573
I can, actually.

>>7677540 (OP)
Here are more examples.
https://x.com/PayetVore/status/1941193619001745805
also fuck it
https://x.com/randomscribblas/status/1950702890190041429/photo/1

>>7678428
Well said. 100%.

>>7678428
based
>based
based
It's going to be really funny when this bubble pops.

>>7678696
Jesus this art is good. Can you even prove it's AI? I love the way the feet is done, and the colors are so nice.

>>7678711
You can tell it's AI

>>7678714
>you can just tell
lol whatever, no one will believe you

>>7678711
It is traced over an AI image, schizobaiter-sama.

>>7678696
>t-there's no way people can draw like this! they're just using AI!!
You crabs are borderline schizos

>>7678696
fuck it, here's another.
https://x.com/rezodwel/status/1915858083860856973
>93k followers on twitter
>>7678718
>>7678723
schizo-s-sama... I...

>>7678696
this is so obviously ai to anyone who draws. At best its ai touched up and color balanced.

How do I know? Because nothing is being said by this "drawing". I don't get the impression that he has ever played a mario game and has a little crush on peach. Or that he likes peach's feet at all. Why would someone who loves peach draw her sitting on the fucking floor? You know what I'm going to say, this drawing is SOULLESS!!!!

>>7678730
It's okay schizo-sama.

>>7678730
Coom artists don't have souls, why would the art have any?

>>7678730
going to the page, it was an "anonymous commission". Assuming that's real, someone commissioning peach feet art is not going to say "I want her sitting on the floor with her feet out and a soulless expression" he obviously just traced an ai generated foot picture, regardless of if it was a real comm or not.

30 years ago
>b-but you can't just trace a photo!
15 years ago
>b-but you can't just photobash another image!
now
>b-but you can't just trace AI!
And soon it will just be commonly accepted. Do not listen to the crabs here, you will only hinder yourself. No rules only tools

>>7678733
>>7678740
How many (you)s do you need?

>>7678750
Unintelligent people always look for a samefag.

>>7678469
Probably some deep seated impostor syndrome creeping in now and then. While these people aren't known for their deep insight I imagine reality must still set in from time to time.
They want to be percieved as this new wave of "talented, brave, boundary breaking artists" but reality is they are nobodies. Bunch of nobody ideologs, reactionaries easily swayed by whatever opinion is currently in fashion. Not able to see through and look deeper so they fall for anything. Every time. And I think even dense technerds like shad must have these short bursts of introspection every now and then.

Still I imagine there is some sort of jealousy involved in it. Anger maybe. That they know they're the puppet in a play, a marionette, playing the fool. That they will never truly be taken seriously, people will never look at their prompts in the same way they would a master artist. The skilled artist inspires and invokes a deep range of emotions.
The same cannot be said about the prompter..

I can imagine in some kind of twisted way that the delusional sense of self importance they place on themselves being the creator or master of their prompt being (rightfully) rejected by normies and artist alike can instill some feelings of frustration.
Then it's probably natural for them to try and discredit and demotivate those who are on the true path of self expression. Those with genuine passion for creativity. The kind that overrides their own vapid, narcissistic need for money and validation.

Maybe in the hopes that we become so demotivated that we give up. So we all can suffer in mediocrity. After all mediocrity is their domain and anything that goes beyond it is a threat to their existence. It's like you're reaching beyond the bounds of their awareness when you suggest that human expression and our relationship with it goes beyond their shallow understanding of it.

It would be in their best interest that you would concede to their narrow minded view of human expression.

>>7678771
A lot of these people legitimately think AI learns how to draw the same way as artists

>>7678750
Yeah alright fine. You got me. Fuck off.

i just watched a whole anime while the ai schizo started samefagging once again

>>7678771
You can say the same thing about 'real artists' too. Honestly, worse even. Unskilled artists manufacture justifications for their self-worth by willfully taking the bait and using the prompters as punching bags.

Bitter talentless hacks too afraid of reprisals to punch up at who they're actually jealous of, so they punch down on people who no one is going to defend. They have to feel smarter, more skilled, more creative, and more righteous than someone, otherwise they're just nobody, and the overinflated ego can't handle that reality.

It's not any mystery why the people constantly calling out 'bad practices' have little to no relevance outside being a whistleblower.

if AI is so perfect and does everything and will replace humanity, doesn't it mean that anyone shitting on AI is punching up?

lmao this shit logic of being victim while perpetrator is exactly the same logic trannies use

>>7678799
Your logic is flawless, you are a truly intelligent human bean.

Thank you (i am not human tho)

>>7678799
lol what a retard

>>7678795
Pure projection. Maybe my analysis hit close to home.
If you're offended by it then that might point you in the right direction. Look inwards.
Most artists just want to be left alone and have their work be protected against the blatant missuse of intellectual property by the hands of these tech companies.

The prompter plays the role as the footsoldier doing the bidding of these corporations. Buying into a sales pitch meant to appeal to people just like yourself so that you rally their cause.
"Everything is just about increasing productivity and profit margins, human creativity is just pretentiousness, intellectual ownership is just entitlement, there is no value in human creativity, the artpigs are jealous and feel threathened by you and your epic prompts".

We see that this is all much bigger than you and I. And that by engaging in bickering amongst ourselves we end up playing right into their pawns while they take from us something much more valuable than a prompters percieved rights to reduce everything and everyone down to an object to be utilized for personal gain.
This is a power grab, it's a way for greedy capitalists to create a monopoly for themselves while pulling the ladder up from beneath them.

If anything the prompter is like the unaware fly that keeps landing on you when you're trying to consentrate. Persistent in their ignorance and inable to think outside of their collective thinktanks. Causing further confusion with their circular arguments while everyone else are too busy being conserned with solutions.
We have observed the bugman for years now..
Our tolerance for you people and your disingenuos nature ended a long time ago. I shouldn't have to remind you are the aggressor constantly claiming to be the victim everytime anyone calls out your spiteful/ ignorant rethoric.
The artist isn't the problem; megacorporations and their cult followers are.
You're right. I am punching down but for entirely different reasons than you claim.

>>7678696
Any tutorials for using AI like this? What programs are they using and what's the process?

>>7678898
if you're just curious: most people use comfyui with a decent anime model, slap on a bunch of LoRAs they didn't train, type in some danbooru tags, upscale it with hires fix or latent, then paywall the results like it's artisanal. it's all grift and vibes. the real trick is knowing what combos the model likes, not actual skill. it's not magic, it's just data theft with extra steps.

>>7678779
>Be retarded
>Draw abhorrent dogshit
>Get publicly humiliated and kicked out of every respectable website
>Take over DeviantArt
>Become a weeb and a furry
>Improve somewhat
>Sell out to WotC and Blizzard

That's pretty much what real artists do, actually

>>7678902
is there even any point to adding drawing to this workflow. how do you even integrate this into drawing in a meaningful way

>buy a ramen cup
>heat water
>add salt
>"look i'm a chef"
now say the line

>>7678913
You can use inpainting to render things for you (pointless if you know how to draw), have it generate multiple composition mockups for thumbnailing (pointless if you know how to draw), and have it generate assets for you you can photobash in (pointless if you know how to draw).

>>7678161
BASED

>>7678927
the line

>>7678161
I have never met someone who writes shit like this without them being severely mentally ill.
Bonus points for pretending to be half-japanese (the japanese shit they write is 100% incoherent google/AI translated garbage) and a ""woman"".

>>7678779
Boomer judges sadly are falling for this argument and one of the AI lawsuits went in favor of AI because dumb boomer judge thought AI training was the equivilant of teaching children.

>>7678913
Krita's ai plugin with comfyui. You could draw start to finish with some sort of ai workflow integrated.

There are options to actually draw with it but chances are you're not using ai if you're capable of drawing in the first place.

It is possible to train a lora on your own work and sort of skin walk yourself. If speed is really that important to you.

>>7678970
Yeah but it's so obvious that it genuinely comes off as a troll
On the other hand, people generally say shit like that without any irony because they believe it works and when it doesn't "everyone is a jealous crab"
Pretty much textbook narcissism

>>7677543
A lot of tradfags are AI zealots

>>7677540 (OP)
jeet pretends to be japanese, click farms his followers, uses ai to promote ai. yawn

>>7678282
Unironically, fix the eyes of the left and you don't need the right

>>7678913
https://youtu.be/bKHo2Gh9O-c?si=HRndEytmoffi4du1

>>7678395
>this thing that *I* don't approve *now* completely justifies me being a total piece of shit
And people wonder why the online art space is full of catty bitches and backstabbing faggots

>>7678970
It's Ai generated as well. The em-dashes and sentence structure make it very obvious. It's also the first time this person wrote more than three words + emoji.

>>7678247
>imagine if they drew over ai
anon, most of these people would be satisfied with it being generated to begin with because it already did all the work for them, why would they be fucked to go the extra mile doing that

>>7678161
>Elon Musk is the godfather of AI
Truly, only a woman could be this retarded.

>>7679146
He did fund openai when it was firstly set to be open source.

>>7678161
I support the idea that you should never apologise to a mob, but I don't think you should do whatever this is either...

>>7678184
>wokescolder
what is this trannyspeak

>>7677547
>I've seen more Japanese AI artists than from any other nation, is this just me?
They already loved to "cheat" compared to the West, so this shouldn't be surprising for certain styles of anime illustrations.
They don't have the same drive to be original like Westerners do. They copy tons of things shamelessly in art, music, all forms of media.

Most people on /ic/ have horrible instinct of telling when 3D models were used for the base or tracing over. Artists who do clean 2000s digital anime renders tend to not be able to draw at all, they're just render monkeys who can symbol draw appealing anime faces. Once you know what you're looking, you see it all the time with model posing limits, strange outlines that were made by an outline or convex hull shader rather than an artist choosing that line, and incredibly inconsistent perspective being perfect in some places but bad in others.

Anyone interested in anime illustrations, I highly recommend playing with a demo of Clip Studio and seeing what the 3D model viewer is like. You'll suddenly recognize how it's the base for tons of illustrations. Noticeable tells for me tend to be odd choices with fingers/hands and forearms since they're rather formless/artistically shapeless.

>>7679105
I watched the whole thing but the entire time I couldn't help but feel like a lot of this really is just editing and saving time but you lose the actual aspect of drawing for enjoyment along with it. I guess it's more so fitting into the mold of speed for work more than anything

>>7678927
AI would be buying some nice ramen with all the fixings from a restaurant and saying you made it because you selected the toppings in a menu.

>>7677547
some people draw for fun, some people draw for fame

>>7679105
Lol it's so joever for people too stupid/old to learn AI. If you haven't made it already, then you will never be able to compete with the upcoming gen alpha/Z artists who incorporate AI into their workflow.

>>7679519
Trad will always overcome evil

>>7679548
Not really. Only the tippity top of trad artists can actually make OK money. Most corporate jobs require digital, and the easiest way to make money is digital. And the competition is about to get absolutely fierce.

>ctrl+f "workflow"
>10 results
interesting how much this meme word is used while nobody actually has a visual example of some artist actually showing how this is supposed to work

>>7679557
for some high tier artists it probably won't do much for them because they can just bang out a sketch pose quickly, but as a shitter it helps me get a base pose down to use as reference. generate something that looks close to what I want, use that as a base at like 20% opacity, then draw the actual character I want in that pose.

>>7679557
Why bother casting pearls before swine? In fact, the less people that know about this the better. Go ahead and stay doing exactly what you're doing. Workflow is just a meme, keep watching vilppu videos and shitposting on ic.