Thread 7683659

>like a drawing
>wonder what else the artist does
>it's all faces of girls with similar features
what causes this?

>>7683659 (OP)
I dont understand how grown dudes can sit there and draw cute guppy little anime girls wearing too-big shirts over and over and over. Join any random art discord and 70% of the drawings are tiny anime girls wearing too big shirts. 99% its some gross looking greasy dude behind it. I fucking hate it.

>>7683684
>over and over and over
This is the part that gets me. I'm still new, but I could not imagine knowing how to draw/paint, and only doing that. Like nigga do you not find anything else interesting or beautiful? Draw a bird landing on a branch, maybe someone fishing on a lake, fucking anything else for once.

>>7683711
You are still new. If you want to get good at drawing birds you have to draw birds 1,000 times. You can't just draw a bird and then move on to drawing a boat, then a flower, then a spaceship.

>>7683764
you know damn well that's not what the people he's referring to are doing

>>7683776
Yeah because they want to draw anime girls, so they're drawing 1,000 anime girls so they can get good at it.

>>7683659 (OP)
I draw anime girls but they are in dark voids not white voids

>>7683781
the entire premise is that they're already good at it dweeb

>>7683791
Sounds like they made it. Can you say the same?

>>7683659 (OP)
>what causes this?

Drawing what people enjoy, if it ain't broke. I mean that same drawing attracted you didn't it?

>>7683839
>I mean that same drawing attracted you didn't it?
Yeah, at first I was interested because I wanted to see more things in a similar style. But once I realized they were a one-trick pony, it killed all my interest and stripped any uniqueness from the original piece. Honestly, it seems more like a form of mental illness to me than genuine "enjoyment." No one with a functioning brain would argue that just because someone is good at something and happens to enjoy it, that it automatically qualifies as some kind of achievement. I used to be a druggie. I was damn good at it, and I felt great too, but that doesn't mean I deserve a pat on the back for it. You know what I mean, anon?

>>7683863
not really, you just sound like a jealous bitch coping they cant draw cute anime girls tbqh

>>7683870
I'm sorry your little pedo drawings are taking you nowhere.

>>7683863
>No one with a functioning brain would argue that just because someone is good at something and happens to enjoy it, that it automatically qualifies as some kind of achievement.

No one said it was an achievement. The only thing you have to achieve to post on social media is pressing the 'post' button. I also said drawing what PEOPLE enjoy, idk this artist you haven't posted a picture or a name as far as I can tell so how would I know what they enjoy? Odds are you seeing it means that they are getting some form of engagement which is why I said "If it ain't broke" . Quite frankly you could've went on that person's work, saw that it wasn't for you and move on, but you chose to make a thread about it instead, this is no one's problem but your own.

>>7683881
I don't even draw lmao, i come here to look at sketches every few months and leave

>>7683776
If you can draw thousands of anime girls to get good at it, you like drawing anime girls, are you fucking autistic?

>>7683892
The principle of this take is utterly braindead.
>notice something you find wrong/weird
>say something about it
>this is no one's problem but your own move on
If the same exact thing can be said of your reply then how about you piss off, and never reply to anything you disagree with again.

>>7683922
>If the same exact thing can be said of your reply then how about you piss off, and never reply to anything you disagree with again.

No I didn't kill a thread on /ic/ ARTWORK AND CRITIQUE to talk about something I saw and not even post an image of it because I was frustrated that an artist drew the same subject matter. That's the brainless take you could've posted this in WCT or >>7656893 . Let's say someone did answer your initial question, what did it really solve for you? You said you don't draw There's no reason for you to be here.

LMAO of course it's a retarded nodraw loser!

>>7683940
Quite frankly you could've came in this thread, saw that it wasn't for you and moved on, but you chose to reply to it instead, this is no one's problem but your own.

>>7683881
pyw

>how dare you draw what you want to draw!
>you have to draw what I want you to draw! But I won't commission you for it anything you should just do it!

>>7683659 (OP)
>what causes this?
You. It's always a you problem.

>>7683711
I really don't get it. I feel like a hack doing a redraw of something I did years ago. It comes off more as drawing-as-wish-fulfillment than having any actual interest in art.

>>7683863
Basically this, yeah. There's dozens, maybe even hundreds of artists that I just can't be asked to give a shit about because, even though I like their work, they've been doing the same thing over and over for years with zero introspection or nuance. I don't care if hoards goon-obsessed normies jerk off to it every night. It's just not creative, and not good art.

>>7683984
Nodraw

>>7683946
It was for me. You asked a question, I told you why and then you bitched and moaned that the person marketing tactic worked. I'd understand if you were some bitter artist envious that someone has more likes than you there's a couple of threads like that up already, but you don't draw so why are you here? Why make a thread? Again at least those other threads had the decency to show the art they were raging about.

>>7683711
when you're older you'll realize the only thing worth drawing is cute girls.

>>7683881
>>7683900

>idiot a accuses idiot b of being a pedo for drawing anime girls
>idiot b proudly exclaims that he doesn't draw and only browses this board for the pictures and start arguments

/ic/ is fucking cooked. I blame deltarune

>>7683988
INCORRECT

this is just another sharty thread

>>7683684
Because I love anime
And manga
And gaming!

>>7683659 (OP)
Men don't hate women, they are envious of them.

>>7684120
>men don't hate women, they are envious of them
No we just want them to suck our dicks and play with our balls.

>>7684104
Sakura con ikkimasu!

>>7683659 (OP)
Yup, but sometimes it's not all that bad.

The girls not being at least 50-100 feet tall is wasted potential.

>>7683659 (OP)
One strong cause is that they've become too reliant on too small of a set of features within their art style.
Take a look at jamie hewlett's work - he draws eyes, mouths, noses in a distinct way, but if you'll also notice if you look at enough of his drawings, he's made quite a few female characters that look very much like each other - were he to have a smaller visual library and less flexible in the trappings of his art style, he'd probably also suffer from same face syndrome (or more than he currently does anyway).

Another problem is anime and manga, where many characters look so similar to each other from one series to the next, you'd be forgiven for getting them completely confused. Anime and Manga are the big influential visual art at the moment, and likely further spreads the issue, since people are copying from artists and styles that already suffered heavily from 'same face'.

so the tldr is - It's their 'art style'.

>>7689957
Art styles are thought to be sufficiently 'general', and drawing 1 anime girl with same silky, straight ,mid length hair and the same facial features and shape and the same baggy clothes and always static poses and the same monochrome void as the background and very rarely deviating from a standard two point vertical perspective varying only the color of the hair and clothes is not "general" in any sense of the word.

At best you can call it a routine or meditation, not a style, especially when it's not even their own.

>>7683971
>>7683971
>>7683971
>>7683971
This. Blow your brains out OP. You are a nodraw nigger caring too much about what other people are doing.

>>7683971
>>7689995
For a board with "Critique" in it's name, you guys sure can't take any.

>>7690006
For a board with "Artwork" in its name, people like OP sure can't provide any. Wouldn't be surprised if this is another sharty thread to dilute the board.

>>7683764
>drawing birds you have to draw birds 1,000 times
bullshit lol. from memory maybe, but drawing them requires photo and reference study, since they hardly stand still

>>7689973
>routine or meditation, not a style
I'd say the routines and habits you form while drawing are what create a style (as well as your aesthetic tastes).
But potato, potahtoe.

>>7683659 (OP)
>>7683684
>>7683711
>do you not find anything else interesting or beautiful?
>Draw a bird landing on a branch, maybe someone fishing on a lake
I feel like this sort of sentiment can only come from true nodraws. You seem to place art and drawing on some sort of pedestal, like it's a noble act to be "creating" something. For me, and many other artists, drawing is sometimes just an activity. It's fun to do. I enjoy drawing certain subject matters in the same way that someone enjoys playing only a certain genre of video game, or playing a specific character in a game.
Why the fuck would I want to draw a bird landing on a branch? When I sit down to draw, most of the time it's because I find the act of drawing fun, and going through the motions of sketching out a character is engaging. Similar to how someone at the end of the day wants to relax by booting up their favourite video game, I like to relax by drawing cute characters.

>>7690551
Certainly. Nodraws romanticize art and are attracted to the noble artist archetype, mostly thanks to being gaslighted by others like them and never letting go of the belief that art is consumed by the "cultured" high class. Being permanently online retards also means they care way too much about how other permanently online retards perceive their image. That's why they put mundane shit like birds and someone fishing on a lake on a pedestal. It's safe. It's classic. It's socially acceptable among normalfags and Redditors.

And holy shit, it's been almost 20 years and retards are still trying to crack what's going on with sameface. Faces have varying degrees of attractiveness. For anyone who isn't a lying, posturing faggot, attractive is a narrow definition, and certain elements will show up again and again when they draw something they consider attractive. That's why most anime/manga (and cape comics as well, in case you haven't noticed) go for the same female models within their mediums, that's why you have the dude with a good visual library who still draws similar-looking female characters. He can deviate from it but he won't, because the result will simply look inferior.

>>7683659 (OP)
I used to judge these artists but I began drawing faggy men instead and now it’s all I draw. Not because I can’t draw something else. It’s because I love faggy men

>>7684075
/ic/ has been cooked for like 6-7 years now, best fuck off and make art friends on discord or something.

>>7683789
Innovation, I kneel

I have the opposite experience, and all the art I really, truly gravitate towards is often the only or one of the only things in their gallery I enjoy to the same extent

>>7683711
i am only interested in drawing cute girls. i would not draw if i had to really do anything else, it doesn't interest me or seem worth it at all. I don't really care about art or artsy things per say either, I simply just like cute things A LOT so i draw them. Does that explain it?

i am obsessed with 1 thing, and don't care about anything else.

>>7691166
>>7691785
You're gonna make it. Draw for yourself, not the ego of no-name, no-work consoomer faggots on the internet. It's sad too, all the time and energy spent on commanding artists around could instead be used toward creating something for themselves and for art.

>>7690551
>>7690940
Nta and not a nodraw, but to me drawing the same things over and over again is incredibly easy and boring. There are two types of artists, those that want to reach a certain point and want to plateau and those that want to add variety to their work welcoming challenge. There's nothing wrong with either but to dismiss the latter as being bad or romanticized by novices when it has been done before is ignorant and narrow-minded. And not to say draw a bird on a branch, but I absolutely refuse to believe all of you faggots are so empty headed that the only interest you have in your life is women. There has to be something else that you like, whether that be a game, TV show, outside hobby, a food etc. There's many ways to add variety to a piece especially with cute girls, draw her reading a book on bench, going shopping, playing a game, riding a motorcycle, in cool battle armor etc. You can still draw cute girls, and still be creative at the same time, while including other stuff that you like.

>>7692898
Why does it matter if someone is content with drawing only dog portraits or even maintain a career doing so? If you want to chase challenges and variety feel free to do it yourself. Insisting that this is something every artist should do because you've gotta gain more experience and level up bro, you gotta have multiple mains because it's IMPRESSIVE, you've gotta beat that raid boss of the craft bro is something only novices and non-artists who treat the art journey like a video game and look at it through a romantic lens would say.
>drawing the same things over and over again is incredibly easy
Are you only saying this because the genre in question is relatively simplistic? If I could draw like Scotty you bet I'll be drawing nothing but mechs every day.

>>7693864
Again, as I said,
>There's nothing wrong with either but to dismiss the latter as being bad or romanticized by novices when it has been done before is ignorant and narrow-minded.
If anyone wants to sit around and do the same shit over and over again, they can, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, be efficient when you can and not everything has to be a challenge, there are times where I've been comm'd to just draw a fat ass pin up and I'm content with that, but to outright ridicule others for the idea of expanding their horizons is ignorant.
>something only novices and non-artists who treat the art journey like a video game and look at it through a romantic lens would say.
That is literally just basic learning and improvement.
>Why learn more about math when I can get by just fine at a 3rd grade level.
>Why learn more songs or melodies when I am content with just playing Hot Cross Buns over and over again.
>Why get stronger or lose weight when I'm fine where I'm at and see no application for it.
>Why should ONE even attempt to get better when his webcomics are already the best in the world
>Why should Chris-Chan get better at art when he's already """sucessful""" and perfectly satisfied his own drawings
You can plateau if you want but that's YOUR experience and the experience YOU want, not everyones.
>Are you only saying this because the genre in question is relatively simplistic?
If you draw a certain subject a lot of course you're going to be good at it and it becomes to simple to you over time while faltering in other areas. I.e. Shigeno is great at drawing cars, but has lackluster humans. Araki is great at drawing lean, muscular men but flubs it at women, and a plethora of NSFW artists have no idea how to draw a man, and just draw a girl and call it boy.

>>7693937
>to outright ridicule others for the idea of expanding their horizons is ignorant.
not that guy but you literally called people drawing the same stuff easy and boring. i'm in the same camp as you that i want to draw literally everything, but some of my favorite artists (trad painters) repeatedly draw the same subject and style over and over. they made a career out of it. sure i'd still likely be interested if they pivoted suddenly, but why would it matter if never did? they make solid money and have been for well over a decade. you can like and respect other types of artists. saying you don't have to draw birds on a branch =/= ridiculing someone for expanding their horizons.

>>7693941
>literally called people drawing the same stuff easy and boring.
I was refering to my own experience and the process. I don't know how I could call anyone "easy" unless they were an opponent. Also
>saying you don't have to draw birds on a branch =/= ridiculing someone for expanding their horizons.
No clue where you got that from. Did you gloss over and dismiss the calling people "nodraws" and "novices" and downplaying the idea of trying new things and comparing it to a fantasy? THAT is ridiculing. I make content thats applies to a niche and I'm content with it. I get where they're coming from. For them, it's no longer a learning process and it just becomes a routine. But not everyone does that and it shouldn't stop anyone from getting better or being experimental.
My point is, staying at a level you like is fine but don't denigrate the idea of improving or seeking new experiences, when its not impossible nor is it bad to.

>>7693941
The thing that /beg/lets don't understand, though. Is that the things people post aren't always the same as the things they practice. Those good artists who only draw the same thing over and over, are actually fairly well rounded skill-wise, they just have a curated public gallery.

>>7694266
And those are...?

>>7683659 (OP)
>>7683863
worst posts of this month award

>>7683684
Just like women who draw gently muscular prettyboys over and iver again.
>>7683659 (OP)
The true answer is that lots of really skilled artists focus on becoming a master of one particular technique, a technique which is tailored to what and how they like to draw, and each drawing is just some slight tweak to their tried and true formula. With some it's more blatant than others, but you'll notice that a lot of modern internet-popular figure artists basically just draw the same types of figures in basically the same style over and over and over. Which is fine, if that's what they like to draw and they find success with it, since it absolutely makes drawing 100x easier than constantly having to learn new styles, new proportions, and new sets of shorthands. Might not be able to work on a larger production which requires more adaptability, but if you're just a freelance illustrator, who cares, in fact having a predictable stylistic signature probably benefits you more than drawing every piece differently.

>>7683659 (OP)
Having literally no concept of different bodytypes, faces, or any interest in learning real character design, basically.

>>7694266
This is immediately apparent whenever you look at the average artist's sketchbook.
But to some people art is all about the public stunt. What you put out there is your entire person. And because of this you need to make sure your level and technique are always maxxed lest people think you are a slacking artist.
Indian grindset.

>>7684104
GIRUGAMESH

>>7683659 (OP)
Kill all heterosexual men. Anime Girls in a void are SHIT.

>>7690551
>i enjoy being stuck in my comfort zone and never making any progress
and you call others nodraws
lmao get fucked retard