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Anonymous No.7696811 >>7696829 >>7696845 >>7696853 >>7696859 >>7696871 >>7696890 >>7696914 >>7696976 >>7697759 >>7697827 >>7697830 >>7697863 >>7697865 >>7698478 >>7700125 >>7706898
This is my best art till now. I'm amazed at myself at how sexy this came out.
Anonymous No.7696829
>>7696811 (OP)
Nice job
Anonymous No.7696845
>>7696811 (OP)
Mirin, nice work
Anonymous No.7696853
>>7696811 (OP)
This is very nice how did you train yourself?
Anonymous No.7696859 >>7696862 >>7696868 >>7696870 >>7700355
>>7696811 (OP)
Ai slop, the "sketch" is melting
Anonymous No.7696862
>>7696859
Yea, it's slop. Was just about to say.
Anonymous No.7696868 >>7696930 >>7707174
>>7696859
the point is to drawing your shit, develop a mid tier style, and then create a lora of your style, produce images that are better than yours, copy those to improve your rendering and presentation, and then generate a new lora with the more new drawings and use it to generate shit and copy 1:1 and fix the errors, that way you can like x2 speed and complexity of images in your own style but better, so you can offer higher prices and quality for the same, or less, effort. You still drawing all the shit, but now better and faster
Anonymous No.7696870 >>7696883 >>7697844 >>7697865 >>7701172
>>7696859
that's just my art style retard. I can post my progress.
Anonymous No.7696871
>>7696811 (OP)
I don't get it. Was the point to get someone to criticize the slop and then reveal that you didn't draw it as a gotcha? So what. The computers can get better every day, it's not going to demoralize most of us who draw for the experience and the craft just as much as the end product.
Anonymous No.7696883 >>7696915 >>7697757 >>7701345
>>7696870
How do you achieve these tiger stripes so peefectly while sketching so loosely? You're too good man you gotta teach us.
Anonymous No.7696890
>>7696811 (OP)
The "art style" suddenly doesn't want to give the other eye the perfect eye lashes
Anonymous No.7696914
>>7696811 (OP)
Post in the generals, retard.
Anonymous No.7696915
>>7696883
Are you unironically retarded, or did you start drawing yesterday?
Anonymous No.7696930 >>7698320
>>7696868
>do this shit just to play the slop lottery and hope you get a bunch of coomers to donate to your patreon
nigga just to sling rocks in the hood
might be even safer
Anonymous No.7696931
slop
Anonymous No.7696942
I think i know this style or this artwork. The last two days have been enough fun.
Kind of got boring though
Anonymous No.7696976 >>7697016 >>7697053 >>7697870
>>7696811 (OP)
Thx for the ref
Anonymous No.7697016 >>7697031
>>7696976
who is the dude on right
Anonymous No.7697031
>>7697016
>dude on the right
that be me
Anonymous No.7697053
>>7696976
now make them hold hands
Anonymous No.7697757 >>7697766 >>7700161
>>7696883
lmao.
The retards I share a board with. I know you got diagnosed with something. I know you people.

I cannot recognize AI anymore, but this sure isn't a tell.
Anonymous No.7697759 >>7697773 >>7698841 >>7698895 >>7699204 >>7699642 >>7700497 >>7703559
>>7696811 (OP)
I know people are gonna seethe at me for this. But. Coomer art like this will never be impressive. It's dime a dozen. Never original, same body type regardless of source material. You might as well just use AI dude. Literally nobody cares about crap like this except lowest common denominator.
Anonymous No.7697766
>>7697757
Nah, he's right. Even messy hatching doesn't form weird branched stripe shapes like that.
Anonymous No.7697773
>>7697759
>I know people are gonna seethe at me for this
makes sense if you're being an asshole
Anonymous No.7697827 >>7698291
>>7696811 (OP)
AI trace, extremely poor understanding of anatomy, color, style. Kinda sad desu
Anonymous No.7697830
>>7696811 (OP)
how?
Anonymous No.7697844 >>7697854
>>7696870
Anon will post his progress any moment now.
Anonymous No.7697854
>>7697844
Any day now
Anonymous No.7697863
>>7696811 (OP)
good job bro
Anonymous No.7697865
>>7696811 (OP)
>>7696870
So? Are we going to see this phanotmatic progress any time soon?
Anonymous No.7697870 >>7700221
>>7696976
I colored it
Anonymous No.7698291
>>7697827
what's wrong with the anatomy and color?
Anonymous No.7698320 >>7698329 >>7698341 >>7698832
>>7696930
i'm glad that you didnt inderstand what i said because is less competition for me and i cant complain now since im making double the money than in previous years thanks to that workflow.
Anonymous No.7698329
>>7698320
Based AI assisted artists
Anonymous No.7698341 >>7698469 >>7699670
>>7698320
I hope whoever pays for it knows that you use AI, or are you being dishonest with your clients?
Anonymous No.7698460
Some of that line work does look sus, like in the bra it looks more like spider-web and less like flowing sketchy lines.
Post progress like you claim, and if you used procreate it automatically saves a timelapse
Anonymous No.7698469 >>7698642 >>7698657 >>7699749 >>7700410
>>7698341
Photobashing/tracing AI is the equivalent of using a ruler. Just a tool. The final product looks nothing like AI
Anonymous No.7698478
>>7696811 (OP)
MOGS ME
Anonymous No.7698535
im so late on learning compsci
Anonymous No.7698642 >>7698777
>>7698469
Sure, I wasn't arguing that. Why can't you focus on what was asked? Is it because you know most of your clients would ditch you the second you admit it?
Anonymous No.7698657
>>7698469
But OP is claiming he drew it when he used AI.
Anonymous No.7698777 >>7698810 >>7698896
>>7698642
Do you let them know every time you use a ruler or a reference? It doesn't matter how the sausage is made. Fight it all you want, but the artists who get the most work and commissions will be those with the highest quality and quantity of output. And in the coming years, the artists who know how to incorporate AI into their workflow will come out ahead.
Anonymous No.7698810 >>7698834
>>7698777
No, but I don't lie and say that I just have special bones that let me draw perfectly straight lines.

If you say it's a drawing, but you used AI for most if not all of it, it's just not a drawing. That's not an absence of information, that is a lie.
Anonymous No.7698832
>>7698320
here is some math
If thousands of people keep burning through graphic cards because they think they will get rich and famous by generating slop, how much of a retarded faggot are you for thinking you totally had a totally original idea?
Anonymous No.7698834 >>7699670
>>7698810
>you used AI for most if not all of it, it's just not a drawing
That's not how photobashing AI works. I'm not even going to bother explaining, better this remain less known. I will say this, you will not be able to tell from the work alone which artist is photobashing AI. The only telltale sign is if the artist is suddenly drawing twice as much work and the quality has dramatically increased with little leadup to the changes.
Anonymous No.7698841
>>7697759
It serves no long term purpose either.
The moment you see it, you're done with it, then you go to next novelty.
Anonymous No.7698895
>>7697759
I mean you guys literally don't want different bodytypes or you start accusing it of being a man or woke, so you get what you deserve.
Anonymous No.7698896 >>7699593
>>7698777
>Do you let them know every time you use a ruler or a reference?
Stop being so fucking dishonest. You know exactly that most of the commissions community is against AI art. Your comparison is disingenuous.
I dare you. Put a disclaimer in your commission guidelines where you say that you use AI as a tool to speed up your process and tell me how it goes.
Anonymous No.7699204
>>7697759
>Coomer art like this will never be impressive
I draw coomer art and I'm well aware of this, but I don't care because I'm a coombrain and I find it fulfilling in itself.
Anonymous No.7699593 >>7699622
>>7698896
against AI art =/= using AI as a reference or base
People are against using prompts and passing it off as your own work. What difference is there between photobashing a photo vs an AI image?
Anonymous No.7699622
>>7699593
>What difference is there between photobashing a photo vs an AI image?
Very little. Both are approaches either used by insecure hacks or industry professionals that have nothing to prove.
Now guess in which category coomerslop artists fall.
Anonymous No.7699642 >>7699770
>>7697759
you get deplatformed if you don't draw a waist to hip ratio above 2x and z cup tits. hate the game not the player
Anonymous No.7699670 >>7699676 >>7699763
>>7698341
>>7698834
No need, because, again, you didnt read what i said. I draw all the thing, from zero, what's the difference if i use a 3d model to reference the pose? what about using a pose of a photo? what about if the same client present me a photo or drawing and say "i want that but with my characters"? what if i use photos of myself, or objects, or 3d on blender, or daz, or designdoll, or photobashing something, what if i photobash one thing to make another like a texture or pattern or if i use a image to copy the color combinations or light work, or if i just copy 1:1 a photo for a portrait like the norm for painters.
Is irrelevant, you are still making all yourself, the only difference for the client is time.
You could said "ah but you must state blabla on your info because reasons and that way no one is gonna buy your shit", but again, is irrelevant because is just a thing of pragmatisms, i do all the drawing.
Also is very curious how people know so little about the workflows you can make with diffusion models, because of the anon state about "slop"; you can still make all the drawing by yourself, use the diffussion model on your own style, that is yours, and you already developed, to render the thing and copy the reference, wich is in your style, what's the point if you can do that all by yourself? you are right, the result is the same, the difference, x2 time faster, for me? is doesnt matter, the drawing is still in the same style i developed, if i study more and change my style over time i just update the lora, so you have anon make the drawing, and anon making the drawing x2 faster, and is the same drawing, i wonder which one is better for the client...
Of course if you are a beg, diffuser models will never be useful for you because you still dont understand most of the art knowledge, that's why you see so much "ai slop", is people that dont know anything about art making shit, if you already know, not using it on your workflow is just retarded.
Anonymous No.7699676 >>7700210 >>7700216
>>7699670
sorry i answer the wrong anon, but yeah, thats the reality on the market, if you are using ai to "make it" then you are all about the money, and that's ok, you work with that and the reality that you are not an artist, good for you, make good money.
If you want to become an illustrator and, cultivate knowledge, then ai it’s useless as shit for that, for sure, is not a teacher.
If you already are a mid advanced tier drawfag, then use ai to speed up your works with a lore on your style, and you can x2 on reach on your websites since you will uploading at least twice as fast, and you can speed up any commission you had striking fast the poses with the characters, the coloring, and whatever, you are still making the sketch and the weird as oc's of the clients, the ai model is not gonna make it right anyway so you will still need to fix all the error but yourself, but hey, you already know how to fix the shit in the drawing, because you already know how to draw, the only difference is that you are objectively reducing your time, you earn more with your time, the client receives the work with the same quality, or better, faster, and you have more time to work on improving your work or seek more inspiration.
Anonymous No.7699749
>>7698469
>The final product looks nothing like AI
Then how were people immediately able to point out it was AI? Nigger.
Anonymous No.7699763
>>7699670
Sure thing buddy. Now go ahead and put a disclaimer in your commission guidelines where you say that your workflow is AI enhanced.
I know you won't.
Anonymous No.7699770
>>7699642
>you get deplatformed if you don't draw coomslop
No, the scraping bots, the ccp shills trying to flood western media with porn and the kids just won't give you any imaginary numbers.
Anonymous No.7700125 >>7700157 >>7700218 >>7700425 >>7700517 >>7700750
>>7696811 (OP)
>OP still has the metadata in it
fucking lmao
Anonymous No.7700157
>>7700125
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Anonymous No.7700161
>>7697757
Retard
Anonymous No.7700210
>>7699676
>the ai model is not gonna make it right anyway so you will still need to fix all the error
Then wtf is the point just draw it from scratch retard jeet
Anonymous No.7700216 >>7700769
>>7699676
You're only earning more money if you have more commissions than you have time for. Which:
A. You don't. Stop larping.
B. You're slow because you suck.

It does not take that long to sketch out a pose. It takes less time than doing it with AI. If you actually do the thing instead of skipping it, you might actually get good at it.
Anonymous No.7700218 >>7700634
>>7700125
pretty sure this site strips non default metadata when an image is uploaded, i also just checked and cant find whats in your image
Anonymous No.7700221
>>7697870
Nice
Anonymous No.7700355 >>7700356
>>7696859
It looks like traced AI,.not straight up AI
Anonymous No.7700356 >>7700508
>>7700355
ngmi
Anonymous No.7700410
>>7698469
If it is just a tool, then they wouldn't lie about using it.
Anonymous No.7700425
>>7700125
could tell straight away, seen that similar pose and compositon a million times now.
what's that plugin?
Anonymous No.7700497 >>7700502
>>7697759
All art is quite useless
Anonymous No.7700502
>>7700497
Why would a philistine even be in this board?
Anonymous No.7700508 >>7700522
>>7700356
I slop bro, shit looks like Illustrious based gen of Dexter's mom, I've seen lots of them
Anonymous No.7700517 >>7700634
>>7700125
Just checked, there isn't any. Why would you take the time to just make things up like this? Schizo behavior
Anonymous No.7700522
>>7700508
Ok, but it's straight up AI and not traced as you said so even as a slopper you're off mark
Anonymous No.7700524
>retards with their fancy ai detectors
>me, an intellectual, magic wand bg
Anonymous No.7700628 >>7700635 >>7700708
Any no life chronic masturbator can tell that's ai slop on the first stroke.
Anonymous No.7700634 >>7700750 >>7700760 >>7700768 >>7701456
>>7700517
>>7700218
Yes, if you download the pic off 4chan it strips the metadata. The plug in I'm using takes advantage of the transparent layer in PNG files to put the metadata within them
Anonymous No.7700635
>>7700628
no life chronic masturbator here, can confirm
Anonymous No.7700708
>>7700628
Anonymous No.7700750 >>7700781
>>7700125
>>7700634
It's probably naive of me, but I still believe OP's image is human, for no other reason than I can't believe someone is such a massive faggot that they'd make this thread larping about their drawing improvements using an AI image... it's just too lame.
I want to believe humanity is better than that guys.
Anonymous No.7700760 >>7700781
>>7700634
This is literally bullshit, you can't pull that kind of metadata from the transparent layer in PNG. Why are you so desperate to have people believe OP is AI? Maybe he traced it, but it isn't just generated.
Anonymous No.7700768 >>7700781
>>7700634
Hahaha, do you seriously believe anyone is going to fall for this kind of BS? LMAO
Anonymous No.7700769 >>7700776
>>7700216
try it, ipadapter lineart anime prepocessor, color instantly your drawing in your current style if you make the lora with your style and put random strokes of the colors you want, and that's just for the coloring part if you are a puritant an like to make the lineart fully refined. Thanks me later
Anonymous No.7700772 >>7700781
So is it AI or no?
Anonymous No.7700776
>>7700769
>google this to try to use it
>I'm fucking stupid so I still don't get it
>wtf is a lora
I think if AI were easier to use for artists, more people would accept it. Right now, most artists are terrified that a small group of tech savvy artists are just going to take over everything.
Anonymous No.7700781 >>7701150
>>7700772
well if you can't tell just by looking at it
it has a bunch of ai stuff in the stealth png info metadata, common ai resolution, ai artifacts and fags like this >>7700760 >>7700768 doing damage control

>>7700750
unfortunately we've had dozen of these types of people doing this over the years
Anonymous No.7701150 >>7701169
>>7700781
>doing damage control
I'm not a proponent of AI and never used it.
I still think you are full of shit.
You could simply explain how you managed to check the metadata, when other anons say they didn't find the metadata you're talking about, but instead you are just doubling down on what we called out for.
Anonymous No.7701169 >>7701365
>>7701150
Sure anon I can explain it to you.
The userscript is called "PNG info metadata" it was created by some anon over at /h/ for sharing metadata in AI slop threads. Since 4chan by default strips away the any metadata inside of file. Why is this important?
Because when you gen a picture you can tell the Front End ( You can think this "font-end" was a visual way to configure the AI, like a normal site) you want to embed the prompt inside of the file itself, since PNG files can hold some amount of information ( You can think about PNG files being able to store some information like, aperture, latitude and longitude and some other types of information).

And anons over at /h/ usually had to share their prompts through a catbox, since catbox keeps the metadata intact. Hence allowing anons to view the prompt inside of the file.

Picrel is what you get with the script enabled if you want to try and load the metadata.
If you want to try it for yourself you can just go to the official rentry and download all the tools: https://rentry.org/hdgcb

Now, it doesn't work for every AI slop gen, mind you, because there are different types of providers out there (Mainly NAI (The one OP used to gen their stuff), local and some others online providers) and if the Prompter also toggle the option as to not embed the prompt into the file itself, it won't be able to find the metadata.
Anonymous No.7701172
>>7696870
>I can post my progress.
Anonymous No.7701285
It's funny how AI jeet shills don't know how art or AI works
Anonymous No.7701295 >>7701345
OP dipped forever ago when his con wss exposed yet you still have retards whiteknighting him.
Embarassing.
Anonymous No.7701345
>>7701295
I pray that they're just trolls because it was the most obvious slop I've seen >>7696883 even pointed it out
Anonymous No.7701365 >>7701370
>>7701169
Thank you for the explanation. I retract my comment that you were BSing. My bad.
Anonymous No.7701370
>>7701365
No worries anon, it's pretty annoying out there right now and knowing at least how to spot some AI slop in the wild is a must know as of late. I'm glad I could help you in some way
Anonymous No.7701456 >>7701473
>>7700634
Tell us what plugin you're using, then, so we can check for ourselves
Anonymous No.7701473 >>7701535 >>7701898 >>7702000
>>7701456
Not that guy but you really shouldn't use random userscripts from 4chan. You can use NovelAI own official inspector, you can see all the metadata.
https://novelai.net/inspect
Anonymous No.7701535 >>7701545
>>7701473
how do I trust this link?
Anonymous No.7701545
>>7701535
its safe sirs
Anonymous No.7701898
>>7701473
>undesired content
is novelai bad at just inserting nogs if you don't specify you don't want it
Anonymous No.7701922
This detector is about the most accurate out for now. In case any of you had your doubts or couldn't tell by the shitty line defects AI does.
Anonymous No.7702000
>>7701473
LOL
Anonymous No.7702013
This is what a real human sketch looks like, try to replicate this with your stupid ai
Anonymous No.7702026
this is ai generated btw
Anonymous No.7702268 >>7702272
Anonymous No.7702272 >>7702294
>>7702268
is this AI?
Anonymous No.7702294
>>7702272
lol
Anonymous No.7702428 >>7702432 >>7703536
bros... what if I'M ai?
Anonymous No.7702432 >>7702751
>>7702428
then you should unplug yourself now
Anonymous No.7702751
>>7702432
and give someone else a piece of that memory
Anonymous No.7703536
>>7702428
We are living in a simulation. AI is testing our reaction to its existence in order to determine our fate. Be careful what you say about AI.
Anonymous No.7703559
>>7697759
>Never original
God I hate this type of person. You're the type who will praise a filthy toilet over a beautiful landscape because "landscapes are so overrated".

Originality is secondary to art. It's not a goal in and of itself but just a side-effect to the artist's personal preferences and goals.
Anonymous No.7706898
>>7696811 (OP)
this is fucking AI? nahh artists are cooked
Anonymous No.7707174 >>7707190
>>7696868
and fuck up your anatomy understanding. Who wants to make their artstyle look more like AI? Nobody's gonna commission it.
Anonymous No.7707190
>>7707174
I hate AI, but this is a really dumb point. People who don't use AI also have terrible anatomy, almost all of them really. The average 'human artist' is objectively pretty bad at art in every aspect.
Anonymous No.7707211
>you should do all that so you can be rich and famous on social media and get all the epic patreon money so you dont have to get a job!
shitters like this is why nobody can have nice things anymore.

It's all Sakimichan's fault.