Thread 7703479

>no eraser
>multiple figures
>no sketch
>perfect perspective
Is it the way the y learned or are animators are built different?

He drew over top of this.

>>7703479 (OP)
this is fucking creepy

>>7703532
Kek, only KJG could have done this without a sketch

>>7703532
DELETE THIS

>>7703479 (OP)
Some are seen with fatter legs than others, they look like twins of the same character, this is the most common problem of 2D animation and is what made several animation studios in the West adopt 3D, in Japan they are also adopting 3D to a lesser extent, it is very difficult to create characters with identical proportions in all the animation frames throughout the slide.

>>7703546
I want to imagine each of those girls hanging from a noose arranged in a circle like this, god it's so fucking hot

>>7703562
Yes if you are a frame peep faggot and watch animations frame by frame. If you need to draw 8 or 12 images for 1 second of runtime you stop giving a fuck about the minor details

>>7703479 (OP)
Quick question to everyone...
How can people pose and draw dynamic figures?
I can barely draw a character frontally because I have a very bad concept of space. What should I learn/train? Is it something learnable?

>>7703644
Perspective, stop running from it and learn already, if you started to study it at the beginning of the year you'd be pretty decent at it by now.

>>7703549
and even then, KJG would admit he messed up at some point but he will still make it work.

>>7703644
Nude live drawing session. You know this. Do it. Find one near you.

>>7703609
I studied animation and I know what I'm talking about. You, who have poor vision like the average person, don't notice the difference, but animators and artists do. It's not a matter of personal taste or seeing it frame by frame; they're entire scenes that change. In Dragon Ball Z, different artists were used to animate chapters, which created a discordance in the design.
One of the most highly valued animations, "The Thief and the Cobbler," not because it has good design or drawing, but because it is done entirely by hand frame by frame, which generated a debate about whether 2D animation was profitable in the West. Obviously, we've already seen what happened. The 3D shit came and destroyed the market.

>>7703479 (OP)
>>7703532
even with the sketch it's very impressive why lie op

>>7703694
I didn't know about >>7703532

>>7703479 (OP)
Feeeeeeet

>>7703690
4>2>5>6>1>3

>>7703671
Not possible.

>>7703650
1-point, 2, 3, 4, fish eye, atmospheric perspective, overlapping lines... I know these concepts.
It's just that it feels like other people have the Blender program in the head...

>>7703479 (OP)
based retard never heard of a light table. what did you think those holes at the top were for you dumb fuck

>>7703479 (OP)
The secret animators keep from everyone else is that they [spoiler]ACTUALLY FUCKING PRACTICE DRAWING[/spoiler]

>>7703877
Some people just visualize their image on a piece of paper and trace their imagination

>>7703694
It's the age old wisdom; OP is a fag.

>>7703479 (OP)
>No eraser

I don't want to zoom in and circle the hemline of presumably a japanese middle/high schooler but I do see indents on the paper which don't match the marks.

It's the one seen from behind and not obstructed by the front facing ones.

>>7703877
There's a difference between knowing what an airplane is and knowing how to fly one. If you had worked through Perspective Made Easy and Loomis's books you would know how to do it.

arm grow long lol

>>7703644
break it down in to individual limb segments and a torso

>>7703877
>1-point, 2, 3, 4, fish eye, atmospheric perspective, overlapping lines... I know these concepts.
>It's just that it feels like other people have the Blender program in the head...
Knowing the concepts in your head isn't the same as actually being able to apply them

Take one or two hours every day and just spend them trying to draw with correct perspective. Your first week of drawings will be utter shit but you have to keep looking at them and keep figuring out what you did wrong and then try to redraw them but correct. then, make another perspective drawing

>>7704757
Itll work in motion bro dont worry about it

lol, mine's laggy ashell...

>>7704894
If I was the lead animator wandering the studio, I would slap the back of the head of the animator who drew that and say "Baka ka?!"

>>7704905
...this is why they imports koreans and nothing else.

>>7703690
His forehead is a dick lmao

>>7703690
Really? if the market destroyed everyone clearly noticed it.

>>7704932
I can't see it, redline it

>>7704757
She is closer

>>7704757
...thats left. and right

>>7704952
being closer shouldn't make your fingers go from above your skirt to nearly touching your knees.

>>7704957
oh, she's a mutant? she's not leaning. recreate this in 3d to see how it should look if you are not sure (I did it with my mind)

>>7704946
The 3D animation market has swallowed up the 2D market, and all major productions are 3D.

>>7704962
yeah, still its, left and right

>>7704967
quite sad since hand-drawn 2D is much more charming than some 3D model in a computer program. It's the mistakes that make it feel human

>>7704952
>>7704962
Its a minor issue, you can see the erased marks in the girl in the back on her skirt, between the two girls facing us.

>>7704977
>still its, left and right
therefore... ?

>>7705016
an issue I would correct before going to the next stage

>>7705024
you are comparing the wrong things

>>7705067
I'm not comparing the wrong things, you are missing the point of the comparison. she is clearly supposed to be standing with both arms relaxed, symmetrically, but the drawing fails at that. her heels are also too far apart on that long armed drawing.

>>7705087
no she's clearly supposed to be a mutant with one arm that is longer than the other

>>7704962
look at the angle you mong

>>7705087
y nvm i also dont consider it any exciting given all kinds of fecal grade my life is best classfied into,by counting profit tand dramaticity that is

>>7703479 (OP)
its called tracing retard. animators use lightboxes for a reason.

>>7705025
You can't even draw the rough.

>>7705092
No you look. I'm going to sleep but tomorrow I'll make a 3d model version of the scene to show you how wrong you are.

>>7705096
I had a stroke reading this

>>7703479 (OP)
>be tranny weeb OP
>lie
every time
why are they like this

>>7705096
based

>>7705164
cant even see perspective imagine trying to draw it lmao

>>7705913
>knows
>cant see
now this is just confusing

>>7705913
you can't? sad. you just have to practice.

>can't completely recreate his scene without breaking perspective
hmm

>>7706015
you are not considering the cov

>>7705966
>>7705968
>saaaar!

>>7706021
I tried all kinds

>>7706025
*btw doing this revealed even more flaws in the perspective of the drawing. in the drawing, look at the angle of the left most girl, and then the one to her left, sudden sharp angle change when it should be more gradual.

>>7706026
Have you also considered that it's not a perfect circle? This is a real retarded way of disproving perspective when he already showed his construction

>>7706028
I did observe it may not be a circle, his sketch actually has better angles on those girls, he fucked up in the clean up

>>7706026
yes bro this looks so much better than that flawed drawing no joke

>>7706066
retard

>>7703562
its not a problem at all

>>7706026
You idiots critique a random throwaway sketch to prove how much better you are despite not being able to draw.
You are exactly the kind of idiot that points out how unrealistic movies are. It's also why you will always be bad at art. Sheer lunacy.

>>7706307
>despite not being able to draw
fr lol, next pls.

>>7703549
KJG would do planning sketches in his sketchbooks before doing big performance type pics in front of crowds and cameras

>>7706026 This is what this other anon said >>7703562

>>7706307
That's why this section is called /ic (artwork critique)

>>7706307
yeah, it's disgusting how many nodraw retards have infested this place

>>7706026
this isn't a drawing

>>7706307
>You idiots critique a random throwaway sketch to prove how much better you are despite not being able to draw.
Random? It was held up as perfect, worthy of starting a thread to marvel at. It's good. It has flaws. If anon points out a flaw, why get bent out of shape over that?

begs it get insecure when they see their idols get critique

>>7706026
Midwit alert

>>7706835
I know you are so what am I?

>>7703479 (OP)
spin

>>7703532
>Kek

>>7703690
Part of the soul of hand-drawn animation is those subtle differences between each drawing. Even a character drawn twice by the same guy will yield different results.

>>7706026
>>7706015
>but.. muh blender!
westoids gonna westoid. you will never draw 2D art.

>>7708315
>>7708321
FASTER

>>7714603
manga is not real art