Thread 7708327

how the fuck am I meant to do make anything working like this? Im half convinced I should just go full neet, cause my corpo job is literally useless. I just wanna make comics, and I spend every second at home on comics (getting 4-5 pages done a week), but dam I could be doing so much more, and studying way more if I didn't have to do my nothing job. You NEETs don't know how good you got it, except you dont have the ethic to use it well

oh and to add on, I can see my workplace getting more and more Indian. just to make it worse. We're replacing our useless jobs with Indians

>>7708327 (OP)
anon i promise you if you quit your job today you would get so much done for one week tops before settling back into making 4-5 pages a week.
being a neet isn't a silver bullet. i'm speaking as someone who's worked a day job while drawing comics, done nothing but draw comics all day as a "neet", and now someone who draws comics all day as a job.

Yeah I was way more productive when I had a day job spending my free time (~3hours) drawing than right now having entire weeks

>>7708327 (OP)
Just get a bjob as a cnc machinist, as long as you produce parts you can do basically anything on the workplace so you can draw shit as you're getting paid doing a "normal" job, 99% of guys working there just spend 90% of their time staring at their phones anyway.

>>7708370
>Just get a bjob
Freudian slip

>he thinks you need 8 of hours of sleep
No wonder they got you working unpaid overtime. You'll believe anything they tell you.
Just kill yourself now while you're well rested.

>>7708370
>Bjob

>>7708345
>being a neet isn't a silver bullet.

This. You may not even realize that the job gives you the momentum to keep being productive and your pages would actually go down. Why not endure it and transition correctly. Don't let impatience and fall into the "burn the boats" or the "Following my dreams" trap. Make money first, show that it is possible have a goal amount you'll need then you can quit and be a superstar.

you just need to be born with talent and so that you could draw masterpieces in 30 minutes or less

>>7708327 (OP)
>8 hours
every fucking time

I feel like the "work so no draw" is the new "ADHD/Autism so no draw".

>i want to throw away my option that gets me a monthly income so i can make comics for bots on the internet and play the social media lottery and become miserable because i am not rich and famous and then shit up the art sphere even more due to being desperate to make money wich will result in me spamming my links on all platforms trying to make money rather than trying to make comics and art which will result in me drawing anime fotm goonslop for scraping bots on twatter to like and repost to train their ai
Fuck off, we're full.

>>7708327 (OP)
that's the point of the system. our lives are allowed to continue only if they create shareholder value, and any activities that do not contribute to enriching the billionaires cannot be tolerated.

Yes anon, it's the hecking billionaires like every journalist and youtuber has been saying it in the last week.

Not your neighbor forcing a dogma upon you
Not your boss trying to exploit labor to attempt becoming a billionaire
Not your friends only deeming you worthy of humanity if you play the rat race like they do
Not a certain gender demographic outright financing every single scam, grift and otherwise shitty products in every market
Not the prisoners being wardens

Ah well, but it's just easier to blame the most obvious target so you don't have to think but feel good about having an enemy
Just wait until they start saying that communism is the solution (which makes billionaires even more money)

>>7709056
the enablers and yes-men are part of the problem too, but try to avoid the crabs-in-a-bucket mentality of:
>billionaires are an unsafe/unavailable target for anger at a system that has failed
>but the shrinking middle class, who don't have security details, financial safety nets, or extensive legal protections, are much easier targets
it doesn't lead to effective positive change for anyone but those at the top

existence is resistance. Practice your art, create instead of consuming, even though the system desperately wants you do the opposite.

>>7708327 (OP)
2 weekend days gives you at least 12 to 16 hours to draw. Even if you squeeze in just 1 hour on a work day minimum that's 30 hours in the week minimum to draw. The problem is not the job.

>>7709097
> 16 hours to draw on the weekends
neet who lives w/ their parents hands wrote this

>>7709106
I live with my parents yeah but I'm not a neet at the moment.

>>7709097
also check your math moron

>>7709108
16 + 16 + 5 = over 30
no excuses

>>7709110
did you draw 16 hours today lmao?

Also 12*2 + 5 < 30 and still basically superhuman schedule. you failed grammar AND algebra worthless trash.

>>7709115
>and still basically superhuman schedule

wrong lmao you don't want it bad enough
>did you draw 16 hours today lmao?
no because I worked

>>7709117
>no because I worked
post your schedule tomorrow. ill assume you skipped some of sleep/bathing/exercise or cooking

>>7709118
realistically 20/hr a week (as in actual time pen to paper) is a lot for a wagie who lives alone. that's what I manage while keeping an active, cooking for myself and the occasional hookup. Anything else is just delusional cope from someone who barely works and has their parents do their laundry.

>>7709097
16 hours implies that you're spending every waking moment drawing, doesn't leave time for life maintenence (laundry, food shopping, cleaning, helping family out) or simply eating and shitting. Anon should treat it as a part-time job though and stop bitching.

If you cared you'd find a way. You'd start with some shit industry job like inking comics freelance and keep adding to your skills. You'd eat shit for years slowly learning and climbing the ladder until you had the talent and cache to get your passion projects off the ground. You retards always want the dessert but you never want to eat the shit sandwich entree.

>>7709127
How does it feel writing this and not practicing what you preach?

>>7709127
> choose grinding poverty for the chance to gamble in the future
pyw

>>7709127
its cachet moron

>>7708617
whats a good goal amount, 3-6 months savings and enough confidence/outside feedbacj that you could get a job in the industry?

I don't get wagies. I really just don't understand them. There are so many ways to make money appear in your account that don't involve work.

>>7709090
I didn't even imply any of those things you said.
If anything, I am actually criticizing the crab mentality, Anon.

>>7709131
Uh no, I talking about the alluring stride he walks around with, not his reputation

>>7709056
This post is correct.

The masses lack nuance and just want an easy target.

The reality is much more complex.

>>7709141
still wrong

you fucking retard, youre working a corpo job that most wagies would kill to have instead of the sea of dogshit slavery retail jobs forcing you at your feet every minute. if you were even a tiniest bit intelligent you would realize that you could carry a notepad and practice every bit of downtime you have, maybe sleep 7 hours instead of 8 some days, maybe instead of bitching about how hard you have it you could spend the 20 minutes it took you to write this useless post to do some practice. most successful artists don't have a balanced life so you damn well know what you have to do, quit pretending you're the only one that is not to blame here.

>>7709145
"When the current billionaires are removed, then i can be the next one."

>>7709148
Uh no, I meant those little bags of potpourri he carries around, not his style of walk

>>7708327 (OP)
then wake up 4 hours before work and sleep when getting home after your shift

>>7709009
You're not always enriching the billionaires. Sometimes it's your millionaire boss, or your boomer managers. Or you just work to then give half of them to your jobless brother that he then spends on hookers

>>7709118
>post your schedule
Nta but... Anon. You know that people don't always work minimum wages or entry level jobs right?

>>7708327 (OP)
Wow, who knew that following your dreams and passions was hard work?
As a quick side note, I had a programming teacher who spoke about how they worked long hours in the medical field, but hated the job - so they learned programming by simply buying books, and alternating between reading and doing each day, for a minimum of half an hour before going to bed.
This is an old story too, with many different people telling similar tales about how they chased passions.

If they can make the time, why can't you? You simply don't want it enough.
So quit bitching, and get to doing - or simply quit bitching and accept your life as is.

>>7708327 (OP)
Draw while commuting

>>7709535
I'm sure you needed to feel superior by presenting platitudes that way.

>>7709580
>platitudes
Sorry that the only advice is the obvious advice - stop being a lazy cunt.
If you don't like the advice, don't ask the question that begs it.

>>7708327 (OP)
Why are you in such a hurry? It's not like you're dealing with deadlines from a publisher, or have an audience that eagerly awaits your work. Anyway, your comic will disappear in the void just like all the other comics no one has ever heard of. So just take your time and enjoy the process.

>>7708327 (OP)
>You NEETs don't know how good you got it, except you dont have the ethic to use it well
When you are NEET your life is over. Society will hate you and you become completely isolated. You live like a ghost and this will affect your energy and motivaton.

>>7708327 (OP)
Also when you are neet you can't afford anything anymore. No car, no clothes, no nice apartment, shitty neighborhood full of muslims, etc.

>>7708370
Yeah if you want to be in the race to the bottom operator side of the trade. The only money as a machinist is in programming and prototyping in defence and aerospace, and that shit is not just sitting around on your phone or drawing.

>>7708327 (OP)
i'm a NEET. not for want of trying, failed a job interview yesterday. and, truthfully, i'm not actually all that productive. being stressed about money and not being able to afford art supplies unless you ration your money carefully is a real motivation killer.

>>7709713
try volunteering

>>7709714

When you have no money people treat you like a 2nd class citizen. I had a really good job with the best insurance in the world during covid and when I walked into a doctors office and they checked my insurance their whole attitude towards me flipped going as far as asking me what I do for work and complementing my insurance.

Be a dirty, no money neet with no insurance? Get kicked out of the building as soon as possible.

>>7709787
Have you ever been without money and insurance?
I think your perspective is skewed because you never been poor, so you project your fear of poverty like it puts people into ghettoe tier conditions (it doesn't).

>>7708327 (OP)
You have to drawmaxx if you are a wagie, here's some pro tactics I've been using
>cook / buy calorie dense slop to eat, so you can quickly shovel it down your throat, giving you extra time to draw during breaks
>be an asshole to everyone around you so they don't distract you while you are drawing at work
>time all your eating in such a way that you always have to take a fat shit at work, that's another 15-30 minutes that you can spend drawing while on the shitter
>if you have a long commute to work, try and draw during that. If you go by car, switch to bus or train, or ask a co-worker to drive you (give them a bullshit excuse like your car is broken down if they ask why)
Then at home
>always do big meal preps for the whole week (or buy microwave slop), so you don't have to cook every day, that's another 30 mins to an hour saved per day
>throw out all the shit in your living space, only keep the bare necessities so you don't have to spend a gorillion hours when you eventually have to clean
>you can sacrifice a bit of sleep, but you NEED to get at least 5-6 hours a night on weekdays (refresh on weekends), otherwise it's probably going to be detrimental to your progress
>spend your entire weekend drawing, then spend time on sunday to prep for the following week and do some chores
Also, I recommend listening to fiction audiobooks as well to inspire your drawings

Making "friends" or being treated good when you have some sort of status; be it money, job, skills, fame, or otherwise things that show those things to others, is ez mode. Everyone will treat you good and everyone will try to be your friend whether you like it or not, but that doesn't mean those "friends" have your best interest in mind.

I always tell people i have no job and no money.
What people earn or the amount of money anyone has is no one's business, and you should never ask that to anyone.
Normies usually go full mask off and you can filter them easily because you just destroyed the only two things they can talk about.
Also people who ask those questions mostly seek status or opportunity themselves, you don't want to surround yourself with people like that that will betray you for a handful of pennies.

how the fuck am I meant to draw when Silksong comes out this week?

If you can't find a way to NEET in this day and age, you're not being creative enough.

>>7709056
>its the hecking billionaires like every journalist and youtubers has been saying it
>its actually...capitalism

>>7708327 (OP)
yup its sucks. whatever you do dont skip on food sleep and cleaning i personally just slack off

>le capitalism bad
>pls don't steal my art and do not train ai on my style and donate to my patreon and commission me k thx pls follow n scubesribble
capitalism for thee but not for everyone else? that's just communism

>>7713027
>capitalism is bad, but you acquire money to live? contradictory

>capitalism when others :(
>capitalism when me :)

>capitalism bad
>but only the very specific capitalism done by big conglomerates
just say corporatism, you inbred mongrel
capitalism is what allows you to be a retarded faggot with your shitty phone in the first place
irl you'd just get told to face the wall and shot for daring to insult the oligarchs or getting sick if it wasn't for capitalism
uh, you know, maybe capitalism bad

>>7713088
There are many socialist programs and communes you can live in if you do not like capitalism anon, but ultimately you want to sell your art, you want your art to be famous.

>capitalism is when iphone

>>7714616
I'm not a professional artist, nor do I care to become one. I work for an employee owned manufacturing company. If you hate socialism so much, maybe spend five seconds googling what it actually is. The Communist Manifesto was designed to be read by illiterate peasants in the 1800's, and retards on the internet can't even be bothered to have chat gpt babysit them through it.

Rand was right. You are nothing but leeches on the backs of titans. Real capitalism has never been tried.

cut down the time for most of these and it works. do simple stuff during commute. do stuff during lunchbreak, kill your social life, cut down chowdown, especially dinner (fucking fatass) and compensate for heftier breakfast instead. its called breaking fast for a reason, lardass. eat an apple or a banana at best. this also means less time spent on dishes because youre not being wasteful and vitamins will give you enough energy for some drawing sessions till bedtime.

fucking greentext bullshit pussies just looking for excuses.

wfh master race

>>7708327 (OP)
marx spoke of this

>live in socialist country
>have to pay 98% of income tax
>have to pay profit tax if i make any money from my business
>have to pay business tax+tax if i have a business
>tax money goes to big corporations and banks when they gamble their money on the stock market
>politicians pocket the tax money to either fund their wedding ceremonies or pay their big pharma buddies for overpriced product
>maybe some of it goes to create pretend companies that pay below the minimum wage and are just there to generate tax income so they meet government quotas
>you're basically forced into the lowest with no conceivable way to work yourself up unless you run scams or commit tax fraud, which they will instantly know since they monitor everything you do or are butt buddies with the unironical elite
>americans try to tell others socialism is good because they can't afford to eat mcchicken triple heart attack fried burgers for $89.99 and a quintuple mocha shot pumpkin spice chocolate soya latte for $104.89 thrice a day while working retail
>also they complain about leeches if other people take advantage of government gibs
Americans really are the dunning kruger race

>>7715446
Highest marginal tax rate is like 50% don't care about your shitty sticker business

Don't care about your calorie intake either, fatso

CAPITALISM HAS FAILED US! WE NEED COMMUNIST SOCIALISM!
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>>7715446
They've just been brainwashed. If you were in power, you would brainwash the masses not to hurt you.

>>7715481
if by brain washed you mean that their brains have been replaced by fat, estrogen and ads, then yes.

>>7713027
>>7714037
>>7714560
>>7714597
>>7714616

You all know that there is not jut pure capitalism or pure socialism... Right? Right guys? There is for example an idea called social democracy that accepts capitalism as the most efficient in creating wealth, but trying to compensate for it on a social level and throught the workers rights, social programs etc. ? I can't stand people shoving a fucking soviet union into your face when you criticise unfair capitalistic practices

>I can't stand people shoving a fucking soviet union into your face when you criticise unfair capitalistic practices
Literally no one has been doing that. You're just making up something to be outraged by and spew whatever shitty opinions you have.

Go gorge yourself on microplastics, mutt.

>>7715501
">have to pay 98% of income tax"
Yeah, no one done something like this.

Im pretty calm, your're the one who butthurt enoung under this post to start throwing insults.

>autist can't into hyperbole
anon, you seem obviously mad that you went into 350 gajillion dollars into debt to learn absolutely nothing

>>7715512
Im not even american. In europe we have public schools on decent level

So, consolidation of appeals to some regimes or other extremal practices to soviets bad, but overestimating numbers when it's in your opinion favor good?
Whatever you say...

>>7715517
>In europe we
You will never be european

>yuropeen public schools are decent
>n-n-no im not amerilardic stop not validating my opinions, commie
LMAO
What's next, monaco isn't actually for rich people to waste their money on 35 yuro glass of tap water?