Thread 7712681

You are not too old to make it. You're just pessimistic and/or lazy.

>>7712681 (OP)
crabs BTFO

Actual good hopium, thanks op

>>7712681 (OP)
>45 year old man
>using uguu kawaii little bashful kaomoji faces
what causes this?

started drawing as a child award

If I pretend to be 50 would it help? Pretending to be under 18 is so last decade.

>>7712710
You don't just stop liking cute things because you got older, anon

>>7712710
He's asian. Asian's love taking too many photos, and using emojis.

I started to draw/animate at 27 and was offered to work on rick and morty by the time i was 33, so that's something.

>>7712681 (OP)
>You are not too old to make it.
Yasuo Muroi created a thread on Xitter a few years ago talking about this topic.
Basically he said that rookie animators in their 30s can get in the industry as a freelancer even if an anime studio won't hire them because they're past 25.
I can't be arsed to find his tweet but it's basically picrel.
>You're just pessimistic and/or lazy.
Correct.

>>7712681 (OP)
I actually know and met up with a japanese dude in his 40s or 50s, with wife and kids, who quit his job to learn to draw porno manga as a middle-aged man. I met him because he's published in the same magazine as I am. I don't think it's that uncommon, actually. He's not a one-in-a-million genius, his art is pretty so-so but his work sells decently well. There's plenty of other authors in the same boat. You don't need to be among the best to succeed as an author.

>>7712710
Spoiler: it's mostly old men who use that stuff.

>>7712711
It really helps to start asap. But long hiatuses are very bad even if you start young.

>>7712681 (OP)
I'm 28 now, maybe I can make it by the time I hit 40

>>7712681 (OP)
He is 45 years old with good skill. There are 39 years old in this board who is struggling with the fucking Preface part of Loomis and Morpho Books. It's over

Ranking of Kings was made by a guy who started drawing in his forties. Quite successful now.

very cute

hari_tabo42 is his handle btw

>>7712848
if I posted this in the /beg/ thread I'd get crucified

>>7712894
What's method do people usually use to do this sort of manga hatching? If I were to try and replicate it I'd go line by line across the form which I feel is inefficient and likely not what people actually do

>>7712710
Those faces evolved on 2ch and spread outwards

>>7712710
being Japanese? their sauce maybe, tofu?

>>7713082
The same way they drew every other line in the image. Just more densely packed.

no mention of how long he's been drawing?

>>7712681 (OP)
I don't think he quit and then learned to draw.
He knew to draw much time before.

>>7713161
he start learned past 40 old
anonymous excuse ?

>>7713082
>I'd go line by line across the form which I feel is inefficient and likely not what people actually do
It's a few things. It's using a drawing program that allows for immense amounts of brush sensitivity in response to your pen (on an ipad esque device or tablet doesn't matter) [not photoshop for example where brush sensitivity is a bitch you'll have to manually change it a lot],, or it is literally going line by line and changing the brush size as needed. Manga is heavy on brush work, so when you're in a manga illustration mindset you're paying more attention to line work, and keeping in mind you will not be coloring it. It's half mindset and knowing what you need. Japanese pens in specific come out really inky it's like you're constantly doing calligraphy with them, which makes sense given how you have to write their language (changing an entire word based on one tiny ass dot). If you use even a basic uniball pen you'll see what I mean. You get linework and brush strokes with those pens that aren't even possible with other types of pens, and it seems like that shit translates over to Asian digital art (also a lot of manga illustrators will use traditional art elements at time).

>>7713164
>>7713158
checked his twitter, he said he learned to draw as a kid but stopped
so yeah, telling people on here "you can start in your 40s and make it" while leaving out that they had been learning for multiple years as a kid is disingenuous

>>7713170
Good hopium for people who drew as kids though :)

>>7713161
i lost my job in covid and government made me a prisoner in home. couldnt travel, not allowed to enter government building or school or airplane to travel for recertification in nuclear energy work. hadnt drawn since highschool mandatory art class for one year and learned to actually draw in last couple years. weeb trash is ridiculously easy trash to shit out like the OP image. I focused more on franklin booth, bernie wrightston and pen and ink style art before moving into loomis portrait videos/lessons. its more about dedication and time put in. anyone can learn to draw. like this is a very early reproduction of random image on pintrest. not inked over. i did the construction and reproduced while learning. ive improved significantly since this and doing my own pieces from photos i take or random designs. working on learning gouache ghibli inspired backgrounds painting now. himi jelly gouache nice to work with and fairly easy to get into if interested. lots of tutorials online. much easier than drawing/inking imo.

>>7712681 (OP)
>old
Being "old" is a meaningless term nowadays, what with Gen Alpha & Z considering 25 a milf and 30+ a boomer...
>>7713170
Yeah, a better example of a Japanese manga artist that learned to draw as an adult would be the author of Blue Giant.
>I had never drawn pictures and didn’t know how to draw a manga at all.
>So, I studied Mr.Kenshi Hirokane and Mr.Naoki Urasawa’s works
>I started drawing by emulating their works when I was 29 years old.
>https://tokion.jp/en/2021/02/26/shinichi-ishizuka-creative-expression/

>>7712681 (OP)
he's japanese, it doesn't count, all japanese people are born with talent

>>7712681 (OP)
True. Most people are just lazy as fuck or too apathetic. Most won't ever willingly admit it, though.

>>7713234
Weebs and Japanophiles are such fucking losers and have this parasocial view of the world. Very disgusting mentality to go through life with.

>>7713260
t. Newfag
Lurk moar

>>7712710
First time on Japanese twitter? Most male Japanese twitter users tweet like they're 14 year old western girls.
>wwwwwwww

>>7713234
It's great for him and hopefully he finds success, but I'm nor reading anything which indicates that he's a new artist who started in his 40s, or that he started taking art seriously later in life. He could have been drawing "seriously" for decades, and just never tried to pursue it as an actual career until now.

>>7712681 (OP)
>You're just pessimistic and/or lazy.
And you are a spoiled piece of shit

>hobby gives you money
>focus on the hobby that gives you money

This breaks the zoomtard mind

>>7713389
Because the internet is the place where you can let go and speak your mind. Retarded nigger faggot.

>>7713234
>drawing
>drawing, Japan

>>7712710
he was using uguu kawaii little bashful kaomoji faces since before you were born

>>7712681 (OP)
he already lived a fulfilling life, so it doesn't count. Try drawing when you're yougn and have no hope + no talent.

>>7712681 (OP)
its easy for him to quit his stable job and become a manga artist because there's an entire market in there, in japan. try to do the same thing in your country (that are obviously not jp/kr/cn) and lets see how far you can survive by doing that.
I'm not crabbing and this isnt about whether you can draw or not or being pessimistic or optimistic, I'm talking about the market; the publisher and the reader, this is something that you always have to consider before you start doing something new. If you dont have a publisher then your work wont get published, if you dont have reader then you cant eat.

>>7714066
Just because you're a scared little pussy doesn't mean we all have to be. You can always get another job, but not another life. don't be such a faggot, you think he didn't have a plan? It's a big decision and he's 45

>>7714028
Yes, people who suddenly quit their job to pursue a totally different vocation are clearly fulfilled in their life.
Retard.

>>7714083
I know you need to run defense for the normoid but deep down you know I'm right.

>>7714090
Hopefully when you grow up you'll realize what the phrase "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" is saying.

>>7713082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgvDuJtMuIE

>>7714083
>you will work at familymart
>you will do the dance
>and you will be happy

>>7712681 (OP)
damn the style is also super appealing looking, unironically white pill

I'm an ancient being from mesopotamia
is 4.586 years old too old to start drawing?
I draw like this btw

>>7713234
Eh, it's more that art is an actual subject that they drum into students from an early age over there
While in the west art """class""" is doing stupid shit like wearing smocks and smearing paint on newspapers

>>7712710
But what if he is cute unlike you anon

I am never going to make it. I will draw every day, try to improve, grind the fundies, whatever... in another 10 years, when I'm 45, I will still be drawing turn of the century deviantart tier garbage. Even friends who've asked me to draw for them cringe hard at my work. I'm the lolcow of every group I'm in and I don't know how to be better, at anything.

>mocked 2000s emo "life is pain" aesthetics at the time
>they were so right

>>7714337
literally me

/ic/ had been begging for and example of an post 25 old artist to start from drawing and make it for years, and when you finally get a 40 year old there's retards ITT coping and moving the goal post to ummm actually it doesnt count because he picked a pencil in grade school but stopped for a good 20 years? Each and every one of you miserable faggots need to kill yourselves.

>>7714337
Embrace your lolcow genes then. Your humiliation can be used to inspire others to greater heights. Let's see your cringe drawings.

>>7714066
>its easy for him to quit his stable job
>stable job
Nibba that's the number one reason why wagies don't follow their dreams, not lack of time, wife, or whatever other reason.
Believe it or not, the world changed a lot in the last decade, nowadays you have Japanese artists making webtoons like the Koreans, You have westoids making 6 figures off Weebtroons too, you have foreigners working as freelancer animators in the anime industry because of X/Twitter, you have Muricans making bank off webnovels on RoyalRoad, Webnovel and Patreon, you have thousands of artists on Patreon, Kickstarter, You have a fuckton of social media artists making a career in trad pub, DC & Marvel scout them on Instagram and DeviantArt all the time, and there's so much more but a lazy NGMI like (you) would rather blame the world so nvm.

>>7714548
There are tons of people who come to this board to do nothing but procrastinate and make excuses for why they haven't progressed beyond the high /beg/ level in the past 3 to 5 years. Nothing will make them get their shit together. Crabs crab themselves harder than they crab anyone else.

>>7714717
so much content very little time to coomsoom

damn you are 35, post your work?

>>7712763
damn i had no idea an age limit of 25 for being hired in japanese studios was a thing, that's depressing. I had been planning to apply to some and im way past my 20s

>>7715125
It's only some studios. Apply away.

>>7715111
>>7714567
>encouraging others to self harm for your own entertainment

I can't just draw random shit like him, I have to make sure what I'm drawing is actually good because I have negative talent. I need to super polish my turds so they look like his shitty scribbles.

I'm 33 and I'm out of juice. Like a car thats just rolling on fumes, I have nothing left in me. There is no way a 45 year old took the time to study anime and draw so soulfully, he was already good and then stopped drawing while he lived his normal happy life.

>>7712681 (OP)
True. A lot of people start art during the middle of there lives. Even the most famous! For example:
>In recorded accounts of Miyamoto Musashi's life it was said he started doing art around his late thirties including carpentry and paintings! In his magnum opus, The book of Five Rings (in the earth scroll) he compares a artisans trade to a Samurai making comparisons including tools and work structures.
Its never too late to have fun doing art and wanting to achieve your dreams. You never know what you'll do and create.

>>7713219
socials?

>>7713219
Your talented man anon and I wish the best for you and your skills

>>7712681 (OP)
>showa era
>1926-1989
So he didn't start drawing at 45 but instead is just saying he quit his job to become full time in something he'd always been good in. We are not the same.

>>7712681 (OP)
i should get a real job tho

>>7712742
>>7713094
>ハリー・ターボ
>Asian
>Japanese
Harry Turbo, or whatever, ain't like any Japanese name I've heard of.

I’m too old I have impaired neuroplasticity and advanced aphantasia. Also my dick stopped working but I think that’s because of the HRT.

>>7715770
>Turbo
Not like any english name either.
Almost like it's some kind of made up moniker...

>>7712766

You met Yo-Jin?

>>7716247
No but not a bad guess.

>>7712681 (OP)
>You are not too old to make it. You're just pessimistic and/or lazy.
You are not too old to make it. You're just untalented

>>7713234
Why did his take until middle age to manifest?

>>7715125
It's like this anon said >>7715156
Only a few anime studios have that age limit, and even those studios hire freelancers past 25, the demand for animators is extremely high while the supply is smaller than ever so they're desperate, which is why so many Gaijins are hired off Twitter nowadays, specially from SEA, France, China and LATAM.

>>7712681 (OP)
join discord.gg/R3NtN4Sbch

>>7713082
Id probably do a solid black with a brush pen and then transition that with hatching kind of like doing a gradient

>>7712681 (OP)
i mean it's different for him because he's japanese, their art culture is far better. in my country (us) art culture is trannies and leftists

>>7712710
He wants to play as a little anime girl for a brief moment. The girls that you see him drawing are really just him playing the role and escaping reality for a bit.

>>7712710
what do you mean? it's exactly what jap who was on the internet 20 years ago would do

>>7712710
>what causes this?
The popularity of the genre and/or style.

>>7717458
youd think that would increase the animation wages

>>7712681 (OP)
I'm not too old to make it.
I'm too busy wageslaving to make it.

>>7719142
Under capitalism, wages only go down over time. You only need to pay just enough to avoid revolt.

>>7719142
In theory it would but in practice Japan would rather outsource to cheaper countries.
There's a fuckton of SEA animators working in anime nowadays, there's so many of them that anime companies even have studios in those countries, they're not just Twitter freelancers.
There's so much demand that they're hiring high school animators in those countries, picrel is one example out of many.
You can blame low wages, low birthrate, and explosive growth in the last 10 years.

>>7712681 (OP)
I mean kinda inspiring, Im in my mid 20s and have doodled around since I was 18
If I could go pro in my 40s I wouldnt even be mad

>>7713082
fill half the form with the bucket tool/large size brush and then use your small sized brush to hatch that transition between black and white

>>7712681 (OP)
I can't quit my job- i'll be out on the streets with no food or shelter and since I live in the United States that's a death sentence.

>>7712681 (OP)
>You are not too old to make it.
its not an issue as long as you can still handle the pencil well with your hand, unless you have some problems with your motor dexterity(shaky hands)

>You're just pessimistic and/or lazy
what's the motivation to pursue it?

will it be worth the effort or just a waste of time

>>7713082
>If I were to try and replicate it I'd go line by line across the form
they fill the solid black and then yes they just hatch the rest with a crowquill

>>7712681 (OP)
I admire the guy but most people aren't able to learn a new skill and just start over at middle-age.

>>7720679
But I was told your GDP was one of the the highest per capita or something.
Are you implying 8t belongs to just a couple of jews and the entire country would die of hunger in a week?

>>7729139
Yea pretty much. We have no social safety nets, and all of our tax money goes to Isreal so they can blow up hospitals and black mail celebrities

>>7714548
Wiiiiiiuuu piiiiuuu wiiuu piuu wiiiu piuuu...
>mmmmiiiaaaauuu mhgrrriiaaaau miaaaaau
wIUUUU PIUUU

I'm hitting 40 next year, maybe I should give drawing comics another try. Not like I have anything particular going in my life.

>>7729787
You don't have kids? Dude, you're going to be 40.

>>7729809
NTA but kids are super expensive,
I can imagine many would rather spend their money on pleasantries. I'm saving up for a VR gaming system so I can play beatsaber at home instead of having to go to the library for it.

>>7714210
I think when people here realize that Japanese society tends to respect art and teaches art better than American schools they'll stop bitching and moaning about talent, it's not genetic it's systemic