Thread 7716337

If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Previous: >>7712168

Your thread references sirs.

oh gee another naked woman doing a boring pose as the thread challenge! so hyped!

>>7716340
sex

>>7716345
Ok, here's something more abstract. I also have cosplay girls I can use for a different thread if you want.

>>7716345
nodraw moment

>>7716345
challenge

howdini fellow anime slop enjoyers!

Feel like I fumbled this foreshortening practice somewhat. I'm still not used with drawing/coloring digitally though I still quite like how it turned out

>>7716345
femoid moment

actual thread challenge

>>7716356
I'd suck your dick and swallow your cum for a fraction of your skills.

>>7716340
we had this one already back in july

atrocious art block these last few days but I managed to slop something out today

Made this eyes wide shut looking chanmail recently. I know its not a drawing but I dont post much.

>>7716383
You made the chainmail? Tell us more.

>>7716384
https://warosu.org/ic/image/KuGNCjMvh4Egac0qT6aoWg

>>7716381
Nice transcore anon

>>7716383
>Butted Mail
ngmi

>>7716381
its missing a bit of the whimsical faggy sovl

>>7716386
Ye I make and sell chainmail been doing it for almost a year now. Copper is fun for jewelry but im branching into steel to practice historical techniques. This is the one I sold most recently. This is the piece I plan on making a copy of for practice. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/26849

>>7716384
THE KING IS HERE

>>7716384
He's getting better

mmm fagslop

>>7716429
Oops

>>7716404
>>7716417

>>7716390

Wish I could draw more but I need to fix my sleep schedule

>>7716402
Wow, that's pretty cool. Your model is quite handsome too. How does one get started with something like this? I assume you don't have your own forge, so where do you make them?

>>7716433
>privated his account
Nigga is dead.

>>7716439
Hes handsome but too stupid for anything but manual labor. You can just get some wire from a supply store and wrap it around a wood or metal dowl then cut it into rings. There's a ton of guides online for it.

How can I improve the furniture texture, specially the tree trunk

I have been using the square brush only, so if any of you have a good brush recommendation I would appreciate it

can this theoretically be good? it's a huge canvas it's pretty hard to paint on it

>>7716440
He'll be back

>>7716384
I did a redline of this image like 2 years ago

>>7716461
>Somehow got worse
Surreal.

>>7716476
Yea I tend to do that

>>7716369
Wow, too cryptic. I don’t know what you mean, but thank you.

>>7716461
So... his level 2 years ago is the same as now?

Love drawing

>>7716486
He quit drawing so it doesnt matter anymore.

Finished this bullshit
5hrs total

>>7716493
POV you're about to pee

>>7716362
a challenge neither for figure and portrait.
Well, I see what I can do

>>7716337 (OP)
Yay! I finished it
Thanks for the help, guys

>>7716445
very nice. add some lighting and study stump.png. i didn't do it very well here but you can with low effort indicate form and texture by working in the intersection of light and shadow

>>7716486
he got worse!
He's proof that anti talent exists

Repostan

>>7716486
He somehow managed to get worse!

>>7716486
>So... his level 2 years ago is the same as now?
In two years he got worse than permabeg.
In one years favelachad got a patreon, 20k followers and enough money to buy a house.

>>7716339
I've run out of space. Don't really have the best of gestures nor values... nor anatomy... I don't really know how to render properly to be honest.

How many hours should I dedicate a day to drawing, buddies? I'm gonna see if I start seriously next week and I don't wanna burn myself out...
How many do (You) ?

>>7716539
>How many do (You) ?
on work from home days, 8-10 hours
on office days, 2-3 hours

>>7716540
pyw

>>7716541
>>7716493

>>7716539
I personally think it's good to have a sustainable amount of time. If you have a day where you really can't or don't want to draw, then that's OK, don't draw. But if you never want to draw, then maybe evaluate whether drawing is really the hobby you want or if you'd be happier doing something else.

spent a good 2 hours rendering the face just for it to look so bad i had to just copy on the old one from a previous draft
i give up but i dont feel shame since im still pleased with how it came out. i love drawing my wife

>>7716548
Whats the problem exactly? It looks uncanny so mission successful
Also love the pose of opening up the skin like that with nothing inside, very good stuff anon

2.5 hours later

>>7716539
I'm a lazy fuck so like 2h on average

>>7716549
>Whats the problem exactly?
capturing her essence. she may look uncanny but i want to push it even more. the shading on her face should be more exaggerated similar to the ref as well.
>Also love the pose of opening up the skin like that with nothing inside, very good stuff anon
ty, the emptiness was my idea however the overall concept was not, credit goes to picrel that i found on pinterest.

>>7716539
mostly only drawing on weekends about 2 hours sometimes more if i feel like it. Would draw daily if i didnt have other stuff to focus on rn

>>7716539
I try 2 hours a day.
Time truly the most scarce resource for the working man

>>7716548
love your style

this was fun

>>7716539
>How many hours should I dedicate a day to drawing, buddies?
As much as you can and want to really. Forcing yourself to draw more than you want is a quick way to hate art. Start low, like an hour or two, but with the option to do more if you feel like it, and if you like drawing and have a consistent schedule (daily, every two days whatever), you will likely naturally start increasing it to as much as you can reasonably manage
>How many do (You) ?
I work full time so I only really manage 2-4 hours on weekdays. More than that on weekends, up to 8-9 hours sometimes.
I did draw a lot less and not even daily for over a month due to burnout (only partially related to drawing) but I'm slowly getting more time in again

Tips on making the hand look more like a hand?

>>7716630
This is the ref I used

>>7716630
The ring finger needs another cross contour or two. The foreshortening in the finger should be more tapered. Remember, knuckles are your friend; they provide convenient opportunities for foreshortening cross contours. Don't be afraid to make the fingers blockier as well.

>>7716630
give the fingers details, theyre not sausages they are made up of three parts.
i tried, this is how far 5 min got me.

Drew a plane head from memory
(left is that head plane model vilppu shilled)
So how do I learn from this? Specifically adjusting the process for the missing cyanish blue between the philtrum and the masseters?

>>7716645
bro accidentally drew a chimp

>>7716645
and a timelapse

Plz no bully

Portrait painting
How is it

>>7716537
It's beautiful. You have no place in this thread lol

Since X is 50/50 Indians and pornslop artists making money, and considering I am neither (thankfully) do I just use Tumblr instead to blog/post work somewhere?

>>7716630
Bro, your Hogarth reps?
Don't use amateur 3D models as reference unless you're already adept at anatomy. Look at the ref pack threads and find ones with extreme angles

i love drawing clothes
>>7716675
tumblr works fine for me. try to ignore the cringe side of it, though. theres some weird shit on there

>>7716680
that pointer finger has 4 parts to it

>>7716683
the forth one is the palm

>>7716681
I know I should probably just look at a YT vid but does posting there work like IG? You select an image, slap in a desc and # away or smth? Any vital things I need to keep in mind cause I literally never used the damn site

>>7716689
just click create, click photo, pick the photo you want. you can add some text and tags. you can add multiple photos as well or videos. whatever you want. its pretty straightforward.

How do I find and make the line of action in a pose that's incredibly stiff and linear? For example, a symmetrical, boxy, standing person with completely even weight distribution on both legs. People tell me to avoid marking the envelope and instead trying to find the flow, but what do you do if there isn't really any flow for you to find?

>>7716690
Gotcha, gonna be looking further into that

Am I the only one for whom measuring (with the pencil held straight out) is super inaccurate? I try to rely on my measurements and they're always off at least by a little bit, sometimes enough to ruin drawings. Others describe measuring as a surefire way of getting things right but it doesn't work for me.

>>7716371
draw it again and see how much you improved

>>7716430
Hot. Need to get back to drawing some of my own fagslop.

Been too busy drawing cute anime girls for people.

both drawn same day from imagination but the second one was after studying the skull from the loomis book and some hair studies. see you guys,im going to finish studying the entire book asap and become pro at faces

>>7716339
I hate how bad I am at this. Anyways, no pain no gain.

Obviously tried the hardest with number 3, but it's still really bad.

Redlines welcome, as any help, critics or suggestions

spamtenna and thread challenhe
>>7716617
very cute
>>7716347
>>7716339
i mashed both together
>>7716493
nice :3
>>7716537
this looks really nice :3

>>7716339
After destroying the girl body I felt guilty and tried to draw her face...

Btw these references should take have moar pixels!

>>7716706
he cute

>>7716680
Sorry I am not that far. As my first book I go through Keys to drawing and I am currently doing the foreshortened body exercise. I will take your advice and draw more from real images. The next book will be loomis probably. Is Hogarth a good book for beginners?

>>7716539
I'd start by trying to do 1 hour a day. Once you can keep it consistent for a month, increase the time slowly.

>>7716645
bruh

>>7716667
small and protruding mouth and an uncertain lightsource

>>7716721
>Is Hogarth a good book for beginners?
You should try it, it might stick better than others, he's giving you a system of shortcuts to build your figure out of and then fill in the details. Hogarth dynamic poses book focuses on odd angles and might fit you better than simplistic intro of Loomis. If you can go through Loomis' book and learn basic proportion canons and then move onto Bridgman/Hogarth for more dynamic poses I think you'll be fine.

Just remember that these are guidelines, doesn't mean that you're going to draw like any of them, but more to steer your process through the systems they suggest

>>7716739
What the fuck is that
You massacred my baby

>>7716690
I doubt you are still here anon but this is wild, I can just post something if I made it like a month or two ago? Cause I started drawing months ago and if I can just post my work in that order thats crazy lmao

>>7716739
you butchered it

>>7716748
im always here. post anything you want. and follow me ill follow back

>>7716739
was more cute before

>>7716760
Holy moggening

>>7716672
I had that feeling for a fair bit now, but I still have a long way to go before I can consider myself past beg/int, until then, I wanna do the thread challenges as much as I can.

>>7716341
Insectchads rise up

>>7716777
She aint gonna lay her eggs in u bro

>>7716709
I think in terms of gesture, 1 and 2 roughly captures the reference. My advice for this is nothing really new, just break down the figure into simple geometrical shapes for the head, torso and pelvis. Because you seem to struggle with the proportions, you should focus on observing the relative distances of those big masses. Observe carefully, that's the most important thing.

>>7716782
1 and 3*

>>7716780
YOU SHUT YOUR MOSQUITO MOUTH!!
YES SHE WILL

>>7716782
I thought 3 to be the slightly better one, but yes I'm proceeding as you are suggesting even if results are not there

>>7716691
A straight line?
If there's no flow there's no flow line.

>>7716773
You are doing great, keep up!

>>7716337 (OP)
Does this pose look good?

>>7716780
i wish she laid eggs in me during intercourse

>>7716739
why does she look so ugly now

>>7716796
almost

for drawing people, right now im just doing rhythms (proko), and it doesnt look amazing...
when i eventually get to topics like anatomy & other methods, does it make a huge difference in making proportional & accurate drawings of people easier?

like, if feels like there are prob some general rules with drawing people and once i learn it itll click better,

>>7716825
I just recently started studying anatomy, so take what I say with a huge grain of salt, but the first thing I did was train my observation skills doing bargue plates and shit like that. That will give you a really good eye for proportions and accuracy. You don't need to understand anatomy/form/perspective to capture it. Once you can break anything into shapes and contours and get basic proportions/measuring down, then you can start studying gesture and forms.

I think gesture is kind of a beg trap and is more valuable for intermediate/advanced artists than us plebs.

>>7716834
so this is the kind of rhythm drawing proko is having us do
are you saying it kind of a trap? like, should i not spend too much time on it if what i did was sufficient enough?

>>7716839
I mean, I did the whole rhythms thing for a bit too, starting with the seals and then did quick gestures as a warm up for a few weeks. I personally got very little out of it given the time investment.

It really depends on your skill level.

If you can already draw people accurately with proper anatomy, but your poses are stiff then gesture is what you need. The problem with most begs isn't that their poses are stiff, it's that they can't capture basic forms or see the problems with their proportions.

If you want to train your observation, you need to do pretty strict observational drawing, ie trying to copy something as accurately as possible, so you can check your work. If you want to capture form, you need to practice primitives, basic perspective, and manipulating them in 3d space. Then you work your way up to capturing complex forms. I think both these exercises are infinitely more valuable for begs.

Did this on tablet and my dad saw
Anyway took around 1.5 hrs

>>7716847
being with parents is a massive roadblock to making it as an artist

>>7716847
What did he say?

>>7716845
ok, i think ill just do a few more days then move onto the next parts

>>7716859
>Cute black-haired babe son.
>Looks kinda like your mom

>>7716858
>Having parents who will give you a roof is a massive disadvantage
Pampered little nigger.

>>7716858
>>7716859
He was pretty chill about it. He knows i watch gay porn (tfw he walked in when i was watching it) so i dont think it surprised him much

>>7716645
Nigga...

>>7716649
I don't know if you're trolling, but it would be highly advisable to draw the bigger shapes before the smaller ones.

>>7716645
i love the Grinch

>>7716884
the jim carry one?

>>7716645
Why do people do this goofy shit? Drawing a purely academic reference from memory... for what reason? If you want to draw human faces then study actual humans. Use the head plane pic as a backup reference in case you get stuck in your studies.

Tried drawing this from memory.

Is this good composition?

>>7716777
Silksong is shit. Too much backtracking and enemies who deal too much damage. The movement also feels zoomer coded. Your drawings are good though :)

>>7716381
Are you like 16

>>7716866
I think you are pampered.
It's so easy to get a roof over your head. Just work a bit.
Better to have a night shift at a factory than to live with your parents.

I wanna get into acrylic paints but it turns out … so hard (this is bear crayons btw not acrylic)

>>7716925
This legit looks like something a billionaire would buy. Somehow you have that sauce

playing with random shit in my sketchbooks to break out of art block

>>7716892
It's one of the best methods to assimilate something, either because you want to draw it from memory or just learn the (I guess in his case) main planes of the face

>>7716341
It's so difficult for me eyeballing this stuff

>>7716339
>>7716340
>>7716341
I feel like I have lost the ability to draw
does depression affect drawing skill

and a study
reminds me of crossdressing as a grade schooler with hot topic clothes and sending pics to men like two to three times my age look

>>7716990
>does depression affect drawing skill
Unironically yes. Ones mental state can affect your ability to focus and therefor output. Same thing with like having a fever that makes you unable to function properly
>reminds me of crossdressing as a grade schooler with hot topic clothes and sending pics to men like two to three times my age look
could be why you are depressed but what do I know,

>>7716995
I'm depressed bc I had to quit an entry level job that I couldn't handle due to mental illness
makes me feel like a failure, plus my art being bad makes me feel worse
it's good to know that depression does affect it so I can have some scapegoat for my lack of ability

Got bored real quickly with this one. About an hour and a half spend on it.

I hate Loomis. I don't understand how this is supposed to help in the slightest.
Am I going about this the right way? I just copy these shitty eight head bodies until I can replicate them perfectly?

>>7717001
I wouldn't call it a scapegoat. You just gotta find a way to make art that works for you and your situation. In tandem you should try and improve your well-being even if it seems hard to do so in the moment.

>>7717021
If you don't understanding how internalizing appealing proportions is supposed to help I think you might need a new hobby. If you don't like the proportions then modify them to proportions you do like.

>>7717026
Let me clarify, I am a stupid retarded piece of shit.
Even this task gives me trouble. I can't simplify the bodies and keep skewering shit to the side (my figures are slanted despite everything being on flat plane).
Should I just keep doing this? Or is there something more basic I'm supposed to be doing to learn? I already draw cubes and circles and shit daily.
I just want to get good

>>7717021
what do you not like about this process exactly
you should be copying real bodies and not trying to make mannequins if you're a /beg/ that can't draw figures from imagination

>sibling visiting from out of town
>wants to see some of my drawings
>tfw most of my sketchbook is filled with gay sex, rape, torture, self harm and suicide stuff, with maybe a small handful of safe for family drawings
bleak
they're also relatively sensitive to triggers, and most of my stuff is full of them which is sad

>>7717023
good advice, ty

>>7717021
A lot of exercises take a while to click. I remember vividly after a couple of weeks of shape studies the forms of more organic subject matter became far easier to comprehend
>>7717026
>If you don't understanding how internalizing appealing proportions is supposed to help I think you might need a new hobby.
Unnecessarily rude. Loomis and like minded mentors are precisely difficult in the beginning because you don´t know how the knowledge in question will improve your art, especially if you´re low beg.

.

>>7717021
>Fell for the loomis meme
Anon.... honestly if you couldn't say loomis was bullshit just from seeing these proportions then that's on you.

>>7716990
how can you lose something you dont have

>>7717038
pyw

>>7717034
>not having a bunch of sfw studies to impress the normies and 'demonstrate' your progress
You're doing it wrong anon

>>7717047
i show normies my naked women drawings all the time

>>7717050
As long as they aren´t fucking normies will have a tolerance for nudes in my experience. Just don´t booby scare them and warn them of nudity.

>>7716341
Attempted some self-critique as well

>>7717050
Oh, I do show em figure drawings as well, but never outright smut, in fact I have all the trad smut I've drawn in a secret location, never know when I might accidentally die lol

Holy fuck i'm sick of retarded designs
How do i get paid to only draw what i want

>>7717030
>>7717035
so I just keep doing this between drawing thinsg I actually want? I feel i'm failing to draw anything.
If I try and draw deetails it just becomes more and more muddled
it's frustrating

no not the hands! 1
>>7716899
bitches be doing 3masks damage

still love it
>>7716940
this is fire <3
>>7717052
i scare normies away with wukong tits.
thatwill teach them

>>7717085
2
please critique thehands

>>7717078
I can't help but laugh at pre/beg/s being memed into starting with construction. Your division lines aren't even close to consistent. You lack observation skills and would be better served drawing for life or from reference.

speed, speed, where is the time!

I drew this girl with pierced nipples

>>7717101
looks dope

Post your wips

>>7717101
nice

>>7717101
Fuck she's cute
Great job anon

>>7717078
Why are you freehanding measurement lines dumbass? There are grids and guides in the software you are using I guarantee.

>>7716898
It's a bit static, for sex you'd want something implying more movement

>>7717135
It's not sex just provocative posing. I was trying to emulate that illustration from the sayonara zetsubou sensei op.

>>7717133
I wanted to test my accuracy. But I'll do that.
>>7717088
how long should I do that before trying to do construction?
I find drawing from reference and doing things I like more fun anyways.

I tried using charcoal for the first time and focusing on the composition more, but it looks so beg

>>7717163
They kind of train different things, so you can do both. Drawing from references helps improve your observation skills. Construction improves your spacial reasoning and ability to describe form with or without reference. Basic perspective study and cube/cylinders wouldn't be a bad idea to get a handle on early, but spamming reference drawing is fine until your observation skills are at the point where you can look at something and comfortably produce a sketch pretty accurately.

>>7716340
Here

>>7716990
You probably have a burn-out. Take one day break.

>>7717078
i don't know what you're trying to draw with this which is why i asked

>>7717095
I feel like your poses are dynamic, and the gesture use is pretty good. Biggest critique for all your works I've seen is the anatomy and some of the proportions, like the head seems too small compared to the body. Not telling you to stop because these still look cool, just something to keep in mind for practice.

Slowly making progress. My workflow is fucked, but at least it looks kinda ok

stream of consciousness
>>7717247
awesome

man.. using only color pencils is a nightmare if you dont have a full color range

Doodling..

>>7717215
thanks for the critique.
Yes my proportions are very off. Always have been, but currently they especially are, because I have a phase where I have fun and go with my vibe. I ought to try for accuracy again, else I entrench bad habits.

Anatomy wise I have no idea whatsoever. I make muscles up, though I have some idea about the neck/chest/arm area due to looking at pictures that some machines at the gym have. This is where I see most potential for improvement. I promise you: I'll spend half an hour a day on anatomy study alone... for a month. Let's see where it gets me.

And don't worry about telling me to stop: nobody here could make me quit. I'm hooked and I'm in this racket for life, whether I post here, elsewhere, or nowhere. I'll always be drawing.

>>7717252
this is so sex but don't be lazy with the pants details

>>7717078
>so I just keep doing this between drawing thinsg I actually want?
Always focus on drawing what you want. Getting stuck only practicing doesn´t work for art imo, it's not a test or a 9 to 5. Practicing and study must serve only you to make your art more fun, interesting and realized, otherwise why even fucking bother. I'm beg as shit but once I understood it's just about doing what you want and having fun doing it and getting better = more fun drawing you can get a lot more mileage out of exercises like these. So ask yourself what you want to draw, and if Loomis would help you, because if your just doing loomis fo the sake of loomis you might as well do something else for now.

>>7717163
As anon suggested you should grind or study as you find the need to while working on your stuff, mindlessly grinding just because not only yields poorer results imho but it also becomes boring pretty fast

>>7717262
Holy

A recent piece. Some stuff I'm proud of, some I'm not so proud of. Let me know your thoughts!

>>7717266
Very psychodelic, I wonder what it looks like on acid lol, I think the values might make it difficult to "read"? Happens to me a lot too

>>7717254
Based ballpoint pen chad, your lines are clean and confident with it

>>7717252
Very nice, and yes they are, gradating the same pigment worked pretty nice there anyway

>>7717250
She's a big girl and they are very small for being males over the age of 18.....

>>7717247
Cool design, I like how the different outline hue suggests another lightsource by itself, also reminds me of a recent painting with light video by Marc Brunet because of how "dramatic" it looks, are you painting the lights?

>>7717203
You should probably make sure the proportions are right during gesturing before moving on with the drawing, anon

is it true permabegschizo quit

>>7717174
Oniric, like straight from a dream. What do you work with, usually? What does your normal work look like?

>>7717280
nice hag

>>7717280
Derp >>7717265

>>7717254
Interesting exercise, they came out appealing and promising in the sense that they're pretty much ready for refining which I imagine is the most difficult part of it, gj anon

>>7717250
Thanks, very cute faces
>>7717283
Thanks. The lines are just my sketch lol, but yeah it does look like light here. I wanted to tone it down later, but maybe I'll keep it instead
>are you painting the lights?
I haven't seen that Marc Brunet Video yet, but I assume it's the same as what I'm doing. I started with a darker base color and then used a lighter color to paint on top of it.

>>7717250
Jesus christ I'm more retarded than usual today lol >>7717292

>>7716760
>Did not address any of the issues, but added epic titties (the joke is sex)
Well done, you've got a great future on Patreon

>>7716339
weird proportions. long torso, short legs

>>7717304
You can fix her anon, in fact that's one of your roles as an artist: to fix the aesthetic mistakes you see :)

>>7717311
very very cute. more

>>7717312
Thank you. I have nothing left. She also wears too much bothersome stuff, so I'll never finish it.

>>7717311
very punchable face

>>7717314
any more drawings of yours to share?

>>7717315
I didn't know what sort of expression to give her.

>>7717317
Nothing I feel I'd want to particularly share here. I also don't want to drop my twitter, but you'll probably be able to find it through what I've said so far.

>>7717318
What is she doing?

>>7717324
Friend asked me to draw her doing this.

>>7717328
eww

>>7717328
crazy to see the possible ways human genetics can express itself
only nature could create such a warped visage

>draw comics and fun meme stuff instead of just drawing from reference as a challenge
>go from perma/beg/ to pre-/beg/

>>7717336
amen

>>7717340
I went to giga/beg/

I have a vintage eraser from 2007, a very good year for erasers I'm told. Let's see if it can erase every shitty drawing I've done in the last two months haha...

Making a Pomni sketch.

125th cringe
not timed

>>7717374
Better bump that canvas up to 12000x12000, king. Space is running out.

>>7717287
Go ask him.

>>7717309
I ... can?...

>>7716513
Ty it was pretty helpful, I got the idea, so I will apply it to my next drawing

That absolutely euphoric feeling when you start progressing past the lowest rungs of begdom and start really 'seeing' stuff.. fucking amazing.

>>7717404
and the best thing about it is that it just 'comes' to you, no one teaches that stuff, nor can anyone, they just give you general pointers and guides, and you somehow 'get it'. Art is really a craft that transcends all other schools in that it's felt and woven in some plane that can't be described.

>>7717404
>>7717406
pyw

>>7717404
Just wait until you get past the beg dunning-kruger peak and enter the trenches of true despair after realizing how shallow your understanding of everything really is :)

>>7717407
That's a long process but I'll see if I'm around to it

>>7717408
No, I got here without despair, though I see a lot of begs get hardstuck before where I am, I think I'll go forward without any despair. I'm not on a quest to be an amazing artist, I do this for fun, and always have fun doing it, not gonna let anything ruin that.

How can I make my drawing look less flat? Is it because of the shit shading?

>>7717262
>>7717280
holy kino, where can I keep up with this

>>7717280
Raita inspired? The girl looks like Raikou.
B-blog?

>>7717422
Try perspective and dynamic poses.

>>7717412
>omg I am so goood and the universe revealed itself to me and I have left all permabegs behind!!!!!!!
>My work?! You dont need to see that silly boy
lmao

>>7717412
>and always have fun doing it, not gonna let anything ruin that.
>not gonna let anything ruin that.
What a fucking pussy. Do you run away from any discomfort and challenge irl?

>>7717404
>>7717412
Please tell me you're the hat kid guy

>>7717280
heads too small, tits too big, arms too big and long.
i think the arms would look fine actually if her tits weren't ridiculously large.

I found this artist I am being mesmerized by, Demimond23.
But I fear that he is way too fucking good to learn from.

FUCK this region

>>7717463
Those are looking great. Why the fuck are you complaining

>>7716337 (OP)
join discord.gg/R3NtN4Sbch

>>7717464
Because I spent an entire day looking at a 3D model and will forget everything I’ve learned in 2 days

>>7717466
post 3d model.

>>7717467
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/jkdilyf20zhonghe-1563942030084fd798a3819a66a32cd3

>>7717469
Shut the fuck up you humblebragging FUCK,

>>7717471
Are you dumbbbbb

That model was made by someone else

>>7717472
i KNOW. I was talking about the drawings. SHUT UP YOU ARE GOOD STOP THE RETARDED OH WOE IS ME.

>>7717475
Ill post the same area in two fucking days and you’ll tell me to go back to grinding

>>7717476
Post anything that isnt a study fuck

I really need to flip my shit more often

>>7717480
you need your eyes checked

>>7717427 ok, thank you. do you have anything to recommend to get started learning those

>>7717480
Interesting idea with the breasts.

>>7717495
>you, the loser
( . Y . )
>him, the gigachad
.(___ ___).

>ctrl f
>mogs me
>0 results.

Scratchy sketchy late night thing

>>7717498
>mogs me

>>7717500
>meme arrow
Fake.

>>7717425
>>7717426
Sankyu! I've no serious blog yet but I appreciate the sentiment anon. And I love Raita's designs, one of my charas is heavily inspired by Selvaria in fact, though in this case she's just a mashup of the idea of Matoya, DC's Witch and Sonoda's style, which I was studying at the time

>>7717434
Yeah, her proportions are all over the place but I think that weird "fantastic" look fits the story and her role as a character

>>7717480
Are you this anon? If so, nice job! The hands need a bit of work but I like her proportions and how cute and welcoming her face looks

>>7717497
A new permabeg needs to take up the mantle.

>>7717504
Aiza anon is MIA and likely killed himself. Only cyclops remains.

>>7717495
>womanspreading

>>7717505
You will NEVER be him.

observation study
>>7716383
hell yea it's the martial arts dude
hope things are going well for you

>>7717495
Yeah I was trying to go for the breasts hanging apart look
>>7717504
Thanks but no, I'm somewhat new here

can someone donate me money to buy schminke watercolors?

>>7717517
no tools only rules

>>7717374
>6000x6000
>768kB

God I love png

>>7717527
it says it's 768kb but if you compress it 4chan compressed it to 260kb

>>7717517
If you live in Germany I will actually, unironically donate $ for you to buy and scan pic related. I have both volumes of this treasure but scanning them will destroy em, and delivery fees to my cunt are ridiculous, like 3x the price of the books themselves.

>>7717529
if you download it*

>>7717514
Pretty good anon, did you use HRB exclusively? Aside from the warmness of the colors, it produces the same impression

i have what i want drawn out in krita but i have no idea how to actually finish and paint it

drawing with the pencil tool is easy enough but i have no idea where to start painting, i just want to make something nice for someone

[spoiler]it's a girl i like so i wont be posting it here[/spoiler]

>>7717530
That is gorgeous. I bought an expensive book some years ago becaise of lovely illustrations.

>>7716339
starting a new practice sheet
I will continue after sleeping

>>7717508
Im not dead, just been really busy recently so havent had time to post much

>>7717530
Name of the book and artist?

>>7717569
Very nice expression of softness. Not even just on the anime girl, even the frog legs.

>>7717573
Adrian Ludwig Richter, the book is Das Ludwig Richter Album, 2 volumes, ALL his illustrations and afaik it's not scanned anywhere yet, the thought that it might become lost media makes me believe we deserve extintion

>can draw an okay mannequin and nude body
>can't draw clothing on the mannequin/body for shit
the grind never stops....

>>7717582
You can try scanner apps for phones. It might be good enough to preserve the book without destroying your own copy

Okay. Enough of a break.

>>7716922
Enjoy knowing all your rent money could have gone to a mortgage and not your landlord's grubby greedy pockets, then. Anon, don't listen to this guy, living with parents and saving is the play here.

>>7716337 (OP)
Almost finished this one. It's almost 2:00 am lol maybe I should go to sleep for the day. The only thing left is the background which I'm tempted to just leave in a void.

Ad Jd vancing

Been working on cards for a homemade tcg. Slowly improving

>>7717611
First two sheets I started with

>>7717613
I cast "three warehouse roll-up doors opened in one point perspective" and end my turn.

>>7716922
>'s so easy to get a roof over your head. Just work a bit.
>Better to have a night shift at a factory
Are we living in the same planet where most of the world is suffering from hyper inflation and skyrocketing homeownership prices?

>>7717614
I destroy it with Posse and end my turn
But I'm only doing this because the board game industry is very anti-AI art even at the prototype stage. Ultimate goal is to use the prototype art to get it crowdfunded where I can pay actual artists (from here) to make the final art

>>7717613
>signing prebeg sketches

>>7717613
>>7717618
found the unsigned fake

>>7717618
>>7717619
It's uhh hidden in the grass

>>7717615
>homeownership
Never call someone else pampered ever again.

>>7717622
Its the price of acquiring a home. It is through the fucking roof. I am finding it impossible to keep up with the insane prices because the down payment keeps getting more expensive and even getting there seems farther away every single fucking year.
What is this victimhood olympics bullshit?

>>7717625
fucking moron idiot never heard of renting and sharing a flat. You low IQ gamma humans sicken me. Especially combined with this confident smug grandstanding. I rarely say it, but really: touch grass


I just know you are pre/beg/

>>7717628
>Renting
>Roommates

Drawing this made my braincell count decrease. I am nothing but a deviantart slop artist at the end of the day. =(

>>7717503
please make some kind of blog even just for wips this shit is right up my alley

>>7717655
Nothing more depressing than a permabeg in taste. I hope you recover soon.

Little Sketch
Is it good

>>7717673
yes but align the eyes better

>>7717655
ありがとう, I'm slowly working on pieces to have a stash from which to post regularly when I open one

>>7717591
What a qt, this would lool great in ballpoint btw

>>7717584
I like the bold lines, confident lines. Were you stylizing her after a particular artist/style? Your choices seem very deliberate and she sort of reminds me of early, pre Decarlo Archie.

>>7717673
Looking good so far

>>7717610
Her left hand doesn't do justice to the rest of the painting tbqh, her face especially is stunning

>>7717288
Thank you. Graphite pencils usually, though I rarely finish things. Starting new drawings has more value for improvement instead of polishing one thing for a while.

>>7717708
Great work anon, it seems you're using the full range of the marks the pencil is capable of. I'm on the same boat in practice because I rarely finish pieces myself lol, but as some anon said in last thread iirc finishing stuff is a skill in itself that needs a work out once in a while too

>>7717708
what pencils do you use typically?

>>7717057
nice trees

>>7717732
Sankyu, I find em always challenging to stylize but it's a relaxing kind of challenge

>>7717725
H for light sketching and then I have a couple through to 6B for the really dark areas.

I'm flying over to Japan tonight, I'm really anxious. I don't know if I'll keep using 4chan while I'm over there, so I might stop posting until I'm back home in a year. See you, maybe tomorrow, maybe next year. Bye

Jesus man, I've seen her work and there's literal anons itt who could do better and would probably ask less

>>7717756
I think construction is primarily used if you want do draw from imagination and are unsure about the layout of things before commiting to details, if you want accuracy blockins are better. Still, building manequins from references is useful practice because it trains simplification

>>7717762
Good luck anon, make the most out of that experience

>>7717767
yeah, but people are still paying that price for sketches. because they wouldnt be that high if nobody paid for it

>>7717767
>Caring this much about comments on social media so you draw em screaming at you

>>7717767
her commissions are also worse than her personal work, someone posted one they received from her in the comments

More silksong slop, gonna turn this one into a full illustration (probably)
>>7716805
Speak your truth brother!
>>7716899
For a first run I enjoy it very much, true about the zoomer coded movement but it sets it apart from the first game. Also thanks!
>>7717606
Sexoooo, gotta add a background man, like moss or deep docks bk

>>7717830
Having a vagina really is playing on easy mode

>>7717762
Last drawing before going to the airport

>>7717698
Uhhhh elaborate on bottom left?

pre-bath scribble
migraine + depression + no reference equals shit, but I figured I may as well just put something on paper
normally I would say something is better than nothing
but like...

>>7717856
very nice, it's giving aura Battler Dunbine
hope your trip goes well

>>7717830
Commissions are always worse than personal work because you're drawing something you don't want to draw

So the bookmarks means people are saving this piece to fap to it later, right? I don't know how to feel about that. I have never had this like to bookmark ratio.

doodles

>>7717830
>$100
>for that
That might be ok if you asked xer to develop an OC for you from scratch, but otherwise that's a complete rip off. No wonder AI gained popularity.

>>7717896
it should be better than your personal work, because it's a job you get paid for

>>7717924
fucking a girl that wants to fuck with you it's better than fucking a prostitute

I love drawing my boy! I haven't been able to draw much recently but I can now and I'm always going to draw my boy

I just want to draw beautiful non-anime girls, but they just look lifeless at best. I also struggle with consistency and it’s like I have no control over whether or not the face will turn out good. What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to keep practicing?

Just wanted this out of CSP so I can start on something new.

Rough sketch, its super simple but I want to focus more on my basics for a bit

>>7717931
looks cool
>>7717927
cute

>>7717939
Her supporting leg isn't aligned with her center of gravity so she looks off balance.

>>7717704
>Were you stylizing her after a particular artist/style?
Not consciously

So can i use the same pose other artist used or i'll be called thief

>>7717993
Really depends how closely you follow the ref

>>7717993
>So can i use the same pose other artist used
yes
>i'll be called thief
yes

>>7717993
only if you are favela monkey
then you get a free pass

>>7717993
There is no copyright or ownership for poses.

hollow knigga slop, come get your daily hollow knigga slop!

>>7717909
>>7717945
i like these ;3
>>7717831
please do !
i love silksong slop
>>7717931
yeah keep practicing, especially if you struggle with consistency

>>7718002
Erm... there is!

Is there a way to make a screen feel more pencil-like?

>>7717422
he's cute but has no butt

>>7717927
>80s hair
>but clean shaven down below

>>7717882
your work is always great to see

>>7717767
then they are underselling their time and talents

>>7718035
no there is not

best resources for animal photography references?

progress

>>7717247
sex

was drawing elves last month and never got a chance to post. how i do

>>7716337 (OP)
I forgot how much of a cheat code this book is.

Sketch 2
>>7717954
Thanks! Hopefully this looks more accurate

>>7718124
Actually now that I'm comparing it side by side it doesn't look like I adjusted the leg position much. I'll keep at it lol

>>7718140
Mind sharing your process?

started perspective part of proko...
trying multiple times to get it accurate and then outlining it. kind of took a little bit desu

i def want to add more later, but am heading out for dinner

>>7718187
ope, forgot to add the pic, lol

>>7718141
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I didn't use construction or a skeleton, just tried following the contours in the reference.

>>7718189
RAT

>>7718191
I dont recognize your choppy red lines. Have you posted here before? Pretty close copy btw.
>>7718187
>>7718189
>Just started
>Picture perfect tiled kitchen in perspective
Talentdeniers have been very silent for a while.

>>7718200
not even close to perfect, you're just retarded

>>7718205
Redline it.

>>7718200
>Have you posted here before?
yes

>>7718219
Oh its you Dollfag. The subject kinda made me think it was you but I think this is the first time I see you using a fineliner-like brush instead of the usual one and the lack of the usual doll-like eyes.
Pretty close copy. I see that the brush seems to lack pressure or anything. Just a square tip and fine lines.
Really changes your whole output.
What are you trying to do?