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Anonymous No.7718086 >>7718113 >>7718116 >>7718180 >>7718208 >>7718271 >>7718279 >>7718335 >>7718343 >>7718361 >>7718390 >>7718417 >>7718431 >>7718517 >>7718535 >>7718589 >>7718693 >>7718698 >>7718938 >>7718952 >>7719155 >>7720026 >>7720090 >>7720221 >>7722002 >>7722191 >>7722296 >>7722684 >>7723350
Why do people get so mad about art prices?
Anonymous No.7718087 >>7718091 >>7718116 >>7718180 >>7718411 >>7720295
$100 for a sketch?
Anonymous No.7718091 >>7718116 >>7719851
>>7718087
don't like? don't buy. simple as
Anonymous No.7718113 >>7718598
>>7718086 (OP)
those types of people can't be reasoned with, they like your art but they only want to pay you in exposure.
even if you accepted their offer of 5 bucks and a shoutout, they'd get pissed if you sent them 5 dollars and a shoutout's worth of effort.

if you want a picture of your waifu for next to nothing, just prompt an ai.
Anonymous No.7718114
>$100 for a sketch
is it worth it though?
Anonymous No.7718116 >>7718180 >>7718712 >>7719086 >>7719223
>>7718091
>>7718087
>>7718086 (OP)
The problem is retarded simps will buy it because it's a cuntoid, meaning that you can't bully the artist, rather find and track down her fans and bully them into stopping.
Anonymous No.7718170
otherwise you'll be flooded
Anonymous No.7718180 >>7718185 >>7718289 >>7718388 >>7721543
>>7718086 (OP)
Because they're subhuman no-draw retards like these posters here

>>7718087
>>7718116

A sketch is a non-standardized relative term that can mean a lot of different things, and we're not going to pretend that no-draws don't spend $30 to bring them processed food from the Taco Bell five minutes away either.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXYoD7wfOs
Anonymous No.7718185 >>7718234
>>7718180
hit too close to home?
Anonymous No.7718202 >>7718234 >>7718267
100$ is a lot for a sketch, you can buy a nice painting or print for that price
Anonymous No.7718208
>>7718086 (OP)
because the art looks like that shit in the OP
Anonymous No.7718234
>>7718185
Just not sure why low IQ retards who don't draw like you are obsessed with posting on this board or why the mods let them

>>7718202
>a print of a piece of art that's already been made
Anonymous No.7718266
bruh, 100 bucks for a sketch is crazy and the fact the her art also looks beg
Anonymous No.7718267
>>7718202
idk i've only seen the one pic in the OP but i think this person's art is really nice
Anonymous No.7718271
>>7718086 (OP)
Guys, sometimes you charge a lot of money to do things you don't want to do, or don't have the time to... though I don't think this artist has that problem- until now that s/he's been raised by the Al Gore rhythm.
Anonymous No.7718279 >>7718282 >>7719223
>>7718086 (OP)
I've noticed female artists often are the scummiest, with absurdly overpriced comms or shit like making a bagillion $150 adopts, and often really stingy with Patreon-locked content.
Anonymous No.7718282
>>7718279
wonder why
Anonymous No.7718289 >>7718291
>>7718180
Nice video, man. Thanks.
Anonymous No.7718291
>>7718289
>Nice Video

Thank you! I'd give you a kiss on the cheek if we weren't Goon buds.
Anonymous No.7718301
propaganda to stan ai and to hate and outmode artists furthermore or actual retards call it
Anonymous No.7718335
>>7718086 (OP)
probably because they are envious and they are a failed artist themselves
Anonymous No.7718343 >>7718349 >>7718936
>>7718086 (OP)
I honestly still don't know how good but not great first world Western artists get commissions. Why spend 100 dollars on a sketch from one of them when you could instead spend 10 dollars on a fully rendered scene from some kid in Indonesia?
Anonymous No.7718349
>>7718343
often it's barely about the resulting drawing, it's about interacting and supporting an e-celeb they like.
Anonymous No.7718361 >>7718367 >>7718382 >>7721115 >>7721335
>>7718086 (OP)
artificial value

simple as

these artist will do anything possible even go through extreme and insane ways to push the idea that their rough scribble is worth $100,000 than a construction worker earns in a year

we've seen this throughout history, its the means of these artist to fool anyone gullible enough to believe their value

good thing we now have better means and tools to teach these artist not to try and scam us with their money laundering, artificial pricing scheme

"if they charge too much, Prompt it"
Anonymous No.7718367 >>7718509
>>7718361
>"$100,000 than"

Please fucking rangeban India already
Anonymous No.7718382 >>7718509
>>7718361
saar, just prompt the art, saar
Anonymous No.7718388 >>7718526 >>7721543
>>7718180
Anon you have to remember that something like 80% of 4chan now consists of thirdworlders, and that most online commission artists are themselves thirdworlders. You say $30 (US) and think that MIGHT be enough to cover lunch for two people at a fast casual restaurant, but the average thirdie sees $30 and thinks "wow that's like a week's salary." If you see a hispanohablante Twitterino artist selling $30 commissions, that is their full time job, and in their country, they're probably making as much as somebody with a graduate degree and a decent job.
Anonymous No.7718389 >>7718405
People who charge high prices for comms don't want to do comms. They don't need the money because they're getting steady work elsewhere.
Anonymous No.7718390 >>7718399
>>7718086 (OP)
Either they can't afford to spend money on a luxury they feel entitled to or they're jealous because they undersell themselves due to low self-esteem
Anonymous No.7718399
>>7718390
As mentioned before, $100 to somebody in the USA (or the EU, or Japan, etc) isn't the same as $100 to somebody in the Philippines. Which of course is understandable, but also explains why there's this long running disconnect with the amount of skill required to produce good art and the average prices of online art commissions and why almost all of the most prolific online for-profit artists are ESLs.
Anonymous No.7718405 >>7723525
>>7718389
Spoken like someone who never did any.
If your prices are low you'll attract very stingy and 'frugal' people that will try to get as much as they can out of you (so they'll ask for constant revisions and fixes and will be just hard to please). Meanwhile high paying customers just want a pleasant experience and aren't nearly as picky, they are generally happy to let you have your artistic freedom.
The lower the price the MORE effort you have to put in. It's just bad business.
Anonymous No.7718411
>>7718087
$100 is the new $50
Anonymous No.7718417
>>7718086 (OP)
AI Image generation should have already fixed that and pegged it to 0 USD. But Nostalgic Boomers insist their favorite artists have value!
Anonymous No.7718431 >>7718465
>>7718086 (OP)
Either a) they don't have the money and think all artists should be affordable to them or b) they're the "AI will replace artists" types. IMO, artists can and should charge whatever they want for their work, but also if someone chooses to use AI that's not a commission being stolen from a artist. People will buy art if they find value in it.
Anonymous No.7718465 >>7718531 >>7718545
>>7718431
>if someone chooses to use AI that's not a commission being stolen from a artist. People will buy art if they find value in it.
People used to buy art from artists because there was no alternative if they needed a nice, original picture. Now, when ther IS an alternative it's only natural that artists lost some of their work.
AI have stolen jobs.
Anonymous No.7718509 >>7721115 >>7721703
>>7718367
>>7718382
lets face it, whether we like it or not, tools of the tech is catching or have overtaken us in a blink of an eye, if you want to survive with the title of an "artist" in this day and age

then you have to adapt

competition from here on will get even more extreme and far more challenging, and if you can't present any value to your craft, then it be best to fill up that Mcdonalds application form than face the dark days ahead
Anonymous No.7718517
>>7718086 (OP)
If people are willing to pay that price, then it's the correct price.
Anonymous No.7718526 >>7718547 >>7718611
>>7718388
Question:
Is the average gringo just as ignorant and stupid as this guy?
Do gringos really believe that $30 is a week's salary?
Anonymous No.7718531
>>7718465
Yeah, the 20 dollar pajeet job on fiverr. Big deal.
Anonymous No.7718535
>>7718086 (OP)
You can sell anything you want at any price.
You are not forced to buy it.
Only people who would complain about art prices are kids or scammers.
Anonymous No.7718545
>>7718465
>AI have stolen jobs.
Well I wish that AI have stolen jobs of foreign pro AI shit posters.
Anonymous No.7718547 >>7718608
>>7718526
In any country that isn't EU or NA you can live off less than 500-1000 Ameribux a month and even put money aside.
30 bucks in say mexico is maybe a couple days worth of groceries, excluding the major cities.

30 bucks in india, thailand, philippines, some parts of china or other rather rural asian countries, is already a week's worth of anything.

30 is an average number, not an absolute.
And 30 bucks is a lot of money for a kid, even more to a third world kid, which make up the majority of online artists and internet users now.
Anonymous No.7718589 >>7718693 >>7718929 >>7719152
>>7718086 (OP)
by "sketch" this artist means a fully colored full body picture with a simple bg that is maybe a bit rough with the lineart
Young artists are dumb and need to learn you can just lie. It doesn't matter if it's a sketch to you, call it a full picture. Inkuusan doesn't take more than 1 hour and half for a full commission and he's not dumb enough to advertise that
Anonymous No.7718598
>>7718113
>if you want a picture of your waifu for next to nothing, just prompt an ai.
those cost more than 100 a month for a lot of the services
the free ones are ass (not to say the paid ones are good though they are just better than the free ones)
Anonymous No.7718608
>>7718547
>30 bucks in say mexico is maybe a couple days worth of groceries, excluding the major cities.
Yeah, but imagine how far $100 can go. That's what annoys me; it's a race to the bottom for them, to the point where even they will not be able to live with how shitty and low they're making their prices.
If a first worlder charges $1000, you should charge $700, if you wish to undercut them, and slowly raise your prices to the $1000 when you gain dedicated clientele.
But so many third worlders seem to display why they're country is still in that state, by never asking for anything more.
They ruin the market for themselves and everyone else.

And the thing that we need to remember is that this is a part of our culture. Americans (and all other firsties) should be making their own art, and yes that includes commercial art.

Ultimately the biggest problem isn't the thirdies though, it's the shit head shit heels that are the dickheads to hire people from off shore just to save a few bucks - people will say 'heh, that's capitalism', but capitalism doesn't decree that you need to throw your fellow countrymen under the bus to make a few extra bucks.
Being Capitalist =/= having no morals.

But I just have to accept that businesses will do this, because the moronic public are totally willing to buy from companies that outsourced to china or elsewhere, despite complaining about it. If you actually care, don't buy from these companies - oh, but you got to save a dollar or two, so I guess the destruction of local manufacturing was worth it, get fucked you mouth breathing sheep.

Anyway, I'm totally going off topic here.
Anonymous No.7718610
art is a luxury, if someones asking you for your prices, they can't afford you.
Anonymous No.7718611 >>7718617
>>7718526
not knowing what the currency conversion is in singapore or the phillipines is not ignorance. we just don't give a damn, thats what you SEAfags gotta understand.
Anonymous No.7718615
$30 is an entire week salary here in the Philippines.
Anonymous No.7718617 >>7718624
>>7718611
>Ignorant amerifat aggressively displays ignorance by spewing uninformed bullshit about x subject
>Is corrected
>I-I don't even care! Rent free!
Every fucking time
Anonymous No.7718624 >>7718625
>>7718617
Yes, I'm not saying this to make fun of you or show that I'm superior. I'm saying people dont care about certain things and you not realizing that shows your lack of perspective. Of course how much $30 is in your currency is VERY important to you, but you can't comprehend how its not important to an amerifat. That is a lack of perspective.

So to summarize, We don't care. And we don't care that you care. But you don't realize we don't care that you care.
Anonymous No.7718625 >>7718628
>>7718624
You don't have to care, but you could at least stop acting like you know what the fuck you're talking about. Because you rarely do.
Anonymous No.7718628 >>7718632
>>7718625
Nah, I think I will swing my hubris around like a paunch.
Anonymous No.7718632
>>7718628
You do that
Anonymous No.7718677
>highly autistic esl thirdoid does the usual annoying shtick
this is why no one wants you around man
Anonymous No.7718681 >>7718682
Even when accompanied with an anatomy book, it's still quite a challenge to visualise in my head how the muscles would twist and turn in space and what sort of form it will take on. I guess this will improve with time and experience?
Anonymous No.7718682
>>7718681
Wrong thread lel
Anonymous No.7718686 >>7718713
Art is one of those things people just expect to be free, that guy would say the same thing if it was 10.

You can see it in other places, every time someone makes a mod for Minecraft, fighting games and such that clearly took a lot of work, and dares ask for money the community starts flinging antisemitic slurs nobody heard since the middle ages, even though they'd have gladly paid 8$ for it had it been official.
Anonymous No.7718693 >>7718920
>>7718589
>>7718086 (OP)
>100$
Maybe AI was just a reckoning for delusional artists? tf?
Anonymous No.7718698 >>7718925
>>7718086 (OP)
some people, especially those who has never drawn anything in their lives, can't understand how much time and effort some drawings can take, especially if the artstyle is close to realism, and includes a lot of rendering etc.

though I agree some artists are being greedy by asking people to commission their drawings for 50$ even though they have the most simple artstyle ever. As an art major student who sucks at drawing, i can absolutely copy their artstyle, and draw by myself for free in a few minutes.

I think when choosing a price for your commission you need to find a mutual price that is affordable, and worths your drawings.
Anonymous No.7718712 >>7718746 >>7718751
>>7718116
how is that a problem, retard? what do you care? why would you put effort into lowering your competition's prices, are you literally retarded?
Anonymous No.7718713
>>7718686
>even though they'd have gladly paid 8$ for it had it been official.
And for even less than what they would be getting from a modder.
Modder asking some support to make bikini skins? Fuck you.
Company putting reused assets in the game for 29.99? Yes please!
Anonymous No.7718746
>>7718712
Theyre so jealous of other artists that they would rather crab and see them make less money than to join them in making more money
Anonymous No.7718751 >>7718756 >>7718923
>>7718712
Well they aren't MY competition because I don't do that kind of art, by the sound of it, they're yours, and I'd like to see it lowered to you get more competition and get fucked asshole.
Anonymous No.7718756 >>7718916
>>7718751
you're so mad and gay lmao
Anonymous No.7718916
>>7718756
>projecting
Anonymous No.7718920
>>7718693
Go use AI then.
Anonymous No.7718923 >>7718925 >>7718955
>>7718751
not your competition because you are worse than her and charging 20 bucks for commissions or...?
>their drawings for 50$ even though they have the most simple artstyle ever.
It's more of a demand thing, the artist in question has like 300k+ followers across on all socials, so charging less than 50 is fucking stupid. Especially commissioners that go for low priced artwork are by far the worst to work with. Besides most people aren't artist, since a simple art style to you is something impossible for the vast majority of people(normies).
Anonymous No.7718925
>>7718698
>>7718923
Anonymous No.7718929 >>7718939
>>7718589
i hate the half body shit, i at least do full drawings for $25 colored too.
Anonymous No.7718936
>>7718343
Because I am not a Jew golem and support my fellow countrymen
Anonymous No.7718938
>>7718086 (OP)
Personally, I wouldn't pay that price if OP is the quality to expect. I've paid not much more for pieces with colored backgrounds and way higher quality.
Anonymous No.7718939
>>7718929
> full drawings for $25 colored too.

Are you okay anon? Do you need rent money that bad that you lower yourself to $25 for a full drawing? With inflation everything is expensive, use that excuse to put your price up.
Anonymous No.7718952
>>7718086 (OP)
because they're poor fags who can't draw themselves op, look at furry artiest charging thousands of dollars for someone's fursona. charge what you want and ignore the pressure of 9 - 5 normies who don't provide a service and expect everything free. If your art is good someone will pay handsomely for your services. Hell even if your art is shitter then the most autistic blue haired fatty someone will still pay, look at McDonalds. If your good at something never do it for free.
Anonymous No.7718955 >>7719095
>>7718923
No dumbass because my art isn't commercial nor would I ever take commissions under 25,000 USD for actual projects, sketches are sketches, they were private or gifts before, not something to sell before late academic time's when the rendering made them seem finished, dumb nigger.
Anonymous No.7718978 >>7719080
neoliberal poison makes artists think they gotta price low cuz theres some imaginary market rate but art isnt a commodity its subjective value only exists between artist and buyer the only reason people undersell is cuz they internalized walmart logic that everything has to be affordable reality is every artist is their own market and should be charging more stop devaluing your work just cuz some poorfag cries overpriced if they cant pay they were never your customer
Anonymous No.7718985 >>7718994
Haha fuck everyone who said I needed a "real job," I'm making all the money I need drawing dog dicks in dragon asses. Life is great, baby!
>OH FUCK OH FUCK EMERGENCY COMMS! EMERGENCY COMMS! DON'T CARE I'LL DRAW IT! PAYMENT UP FRONT!
Yeah I know I said some things, but it's gonna take some time to get back to all of y'all.
Anonymous No.7718994
>>7718985
Always take the payment upfront. There's no reason not to.
Anonymous No.7719080
>>7718978
>neoliberal poison makes artists think they gotta price low cuz
No it’s retarded conservatives, they are main ones that push for artist to price their artwork low, since they are the main group that pushes gen slop. What you said was true before gen slop was a thing.
Anonymous No.7719086 >>7719090 >>7719223
>>7718116
Women will always draw better than men.
Naturally, women will charge even higher.
Sorry, but you can buy AI goonslop if you want btw.
Anonymous No.7719090 >>7719124
>>7719086
>Women will always draw better than men.

>all the best artists in history have always been men
What did xhe mean by this?
Anonymous No.7719093
Insane how lots of people almost feel entitled to free professional level art and artists time as well.

this is what you'd be getting from me for $5
Anonymous No.7719095 >>7719144
>>7718955
>my art isn't commercial
it would be if it didn't suck lel
Anonymous No.7719124 >>7721082 >>7722182 >>7722184 >>7722201
>>7719090
I'm talking modern digital art, nobody cares about traditional art anymore. AI solos.
Men only care about drawing shitty anime moe art nowadays, the market is filled to the brim with soulless anime artists, compare the sexualization general with the cute male general.
Sorry, it's just true. Cis women and homosexuals draw better.
Anonymous No.7719144
>>7719095
Yep then I'd be getting furry porn coms to make a living, too bad.
Anonymous No.7719147
>his art is so shit the only way to sell it is furry porn
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.7719152 >>7721956 >>7723503
>>7718589
overcharging for beg/int stuff is crazy
Anonymous No.7719155
>>7718086 (OP)
People? No, it's all bums who'd never buy anything anyways
Anonymous No.7719223 >>7719338 >>7720026 >>7721701
>>7718116
>>7718279
Women knowing their worth cause moids to seethe the hard
This is why she made her commission goal in one day while you cried about it. Don't commission bigger artist name art when you can't afford bigger prices.
>>7719086
Most modern moid art talk like they're next top artist but draw nothing but the shittiest pornslop in a void.
Anonymous No.7719338 >>7719641 >>7720307
>>7719223
this foid weighs 150kg minimum.
Anonymous No.7719641
>>7719338
>gets proven wrong
>'ermmm, ur fat and stupid'
Latinx or ASEAN male, call it
Anonymous No.7719645
I'm a third worlder and I wanna sex a first world girl like a loose American goth girl so bad haha.
Anonymous No.7719851
>>7718091
cuck mentality
Anonymous No.7720026 >>7720032
>>7718086 (OP)
Everything is getting more expensive, wages aren't keeping up, and drawings are a luxury. You are not Roger Dean or Frank Frazetta. Your output doesn't speak to the human soul nor will in decorate someone's wall or album. You draw some lines that people are going to look at for 5-20 seconds. There are tons of similar drawings on the web. What you offer isn't a fair substitute for, say, a figma.

>>7719223
Don't cry about being replaced by AI with that attitude then.
Anonymous No.7720032 >>7720131
>>7720026
>replaced by AI
you mean that thing made for poors?
Anonymous No.7720090
>>7718086 (OP)
>Why do people get so mad about art prices?
entitlement, inflated ego as a cause of low emotional maturity leading to a misguided idea of being the target audience, general societal trend to view creative efforts as inherently "low worth", brain marinated in a lifetime of capitalist propaganda
Anonymous No.7720131 >>7720193 >>7720321
>>7720032
I mean that thing that is free, doesn't give you attitude, colours, and does poses and viewing angles that drawfags don't.
Anonymous No.7720193 >>7720431
>>7720131
>that drawfags don't
again, this is a poor issue
Anonymous No.7720221
>>7718086 (OP)
The market value of art has nothing to do with the skill level of the artist or the hours worked on a piece. It's always been determined by the cultural significance of the artist themselves. Someone with enough reputation can easily make $100 or more for sketches online.
Old school comic guys at conventions used to charge that kind of money for character doodles that they would pump out in mere minutes per drawing for a line for fans.
It's why art is such an attractive investment for hiding your money in. You can say a painting is a simple purchase of a couple hundred dollars to the tax man and then sell it on for six figures. There's no way to determine the value of art from the material alone.
Anyone complaining about a $100 sketch should try a cheaper artist. There are plenty out there. And if they dontt want another artist, because the $100 sketch artist is who they want, and nobody else is an option, then that just confirms the artist is as valuable as they think they're not.
Anonymous No.7720295 >>7721966
>>7718087
Depends on the artist. A sketch from Picasso will be way more than 100$
Anonymous No.7720307 >>7722778
>>7719338
This picture triggers my autism while yes i could draw simple line and that would be it the fact that the right vessel doesn't match the left one because some ape don't understand that rotating pictures in photoshop along the middle anchor actually shortens them and in this case its good fucking 30 pixels. Then triangulation of liquid so you can transfer it and calculate it is off by those 30 fucking pixels and now what ? Should i be okay with that ? Is this how they do science ? WELL WHAT EVER, IT'S A FUCKING QUESTION FOR YOUR IMAGINATION but i don't fucking care... do your god damn job correctly you fucking niggers.
Anonymous No.7720321 >>7720341 >>7720431
>>7720131
>drawfags should be drawing for us for whatever pittance we offer because AI would do it for free!
the shit thirdies say, no one is going to accept your commission so go back to shitting out slop with whatever free model you're using
Anonymous No.7720341
>>7720321
He jew brother he wants people workin fo free.
Anonymous No.7720357
>Thread devolves into nonwhite race war
Anonymous No.7720431 >>7720444
>>7720193
>>7720321
Aight. Proceed on your way to oblivion.
Anonymous No.7720444
>>7720431
artists would cease existing if they went along with your retarded lala fantasy ideas of competing with AI by having a grand race to the bottom where they completely devalue their labor and art by working for basically free.
i'd hope your fantastical commune at least offers complementary blowjobs.
Anonymous No.7720446 >>7720525 >>7721307 >>7721360
>"Art has no value therefore i should be entitled to the labor of artists free of charge and because AI can do it for free but i want the artist to work for free for me instead of using AI and if i use AI i should be able to monetize it or else! Fucking rich people using our labor to get rich! eat the rich! capitalism has failed! please give me money for my shit!"
this is unironically how normies think
peak cognitive schizophrenia
Anonymous No.7720525 >>7721349
>>7720446
They dont even believe any of it which sucks the most. Theyre just greedy and are willing to lie to themselves to solve any pain to the super ego.
Anonymous No.7721082 >>7722141
>>7719124
The mecha general rapes you btw.
Anonymous No.7721115
>>7718361
>>7718509
> brown hands wrote this
Don't act like you did anything else besides being a call center scammer, dalit.
Anonymous No.7721307
>>7720446
>this is unironically how normies think
no it's not. no one thinks like that. you've just made up a strawman that only exists in your head so you can feel smart about "dismantling" their obviously irrational beliefs. be better than that.
Anonymous No.7721335
>>7718361
brown hands typed this
Anonymous No.7721344 >>7721345
How much should I charge for a post-it note
Anonymous No.7721345
>>7721344
'bout three niggy
Anonymous No.7721349
>>7720525
Pretty much. Anything is justified and reasonable as long as it profits them.
And when they get their own treatment, it's unfair and unjust.
Many such cases.
Anonymous No.7721360 >>7721491
>>7720446
Yeah, I went to an art gallery recently, and there was a normie screaming at the attendants about how he should be able to buy the classical paintings because posters exist and only cost about $15 bucks!
I go to the cafe, and normies are screeching about how barista coffee should only be a few cents per cup, because they can buy instant coffee.
Then I go to the movies, and there's normies again! This time they're saying they should be allowed to watch all the movies for free, because they can do that on streaming services if they watch the ads...

Of course none of this happened, and to think of your fellow man like this, is just retarded. You're just a misanthrope.
Anonymous No.7721491
>>7721360
I enter any thread and there is always normies trying to be contrarian because their lives are so empty the only thing they can do is relentlessly trying to attempt to disagree with others to spark inane arguments.

Am i mad coping seething meltdown? Schizo even?
Wow i guess i just don't make any sense, am i right?
Tldr? wow so witty and original, anon!
Do it again!
Wow i am so heckin wrong, am i right? WRONG! MISANTROPICAL!

You should genuinely, unironically and seriously commit suicide, you insufferable bot.
Anonymous No.7721543 >>7722152
>>7718180
>>7718388
The white creature from the first world needs a lot of money, people from the third can take less to compete with you, while still having a good income for them, white scum doesn't want competition
Anonymous No.7721701
>>7719223
femoid - remove the fe. you get left with moid.

peak creativity tranny-kun
Anonymous No.7721703
>>7718509
tools? tech? the average iq, attention span, skills and humanity is much much lower than before.

>muh adapt
melanin tainted brain
Anonymous No.7721956
>>7719152
not a fan of the style either but what's /beg/ about it?
Anonymous No.7721964
>commission thread
>turns into gender/ai shitflinging instead
some things never change huh
Anonymous No.7721966 >>7721996 >>7722411
>>7720295
picasso would probably ask you if someone is pulling a prank on him and just ask for a bread basket and a jug of milk
Anonymous No.7721996 >>7722411
>>7721966
selling himself short is why he lived such a miserable life. don't sell yourself short, anons
Anonymous No.7722002 >>7722164
>>7718086 (OP)
100 is fucking stupid but i don't think i'll get mad about it since i'm not the one buying anything, i guess i can thank her since if i DO end up selling stuff I could mark up the price knowing that people like her are raising the baseline so thanks i guess.
Anonymous No.7722141 >>7722187
>>7721082
I get that you're brown, but that's just uncivilized!
Anonymous No.7722152
>>7721543
You will never be brahmin
Anonymous No.7722164
>>7722002
There is no baseline unless you're producing slop instead of art. If people want your art, they will pay any price. You are being retarded
Anonymous No.7722174 >>7722189
Why are you guys supporting women?
Either you guys are cucks trying to lower the unity and worth of your fellow men, or women have flooded this board.
Glad to know /ic/ is the most reddit of boards here.
Anonymous No.7722182
>>7719124
>I'm talking modern digital art, nobody cares about traditional art anymore. AI solos.

>Um acktually we are better than you haha
>uhmm, no centuries of art history dont count because.... people on social media dont care about it mmkay?

Very female post.
Anonymous No.7722184
>>7719124
>Men only care about drawing shitty anime moe art nowadays, the market is filled to the brim with soulless anime artists, compare the sexualization general with the cute male general.

>Ahh, yes, let me compare a porn thread with a character drawing thread.
Anonymous No.7722187 >>7722728
>>7722141
Got lost on the way to /pol/? Cunt.
Anonymous No.7722189 >>7722193
>>7722174
We have an influx of delusional women from time to time.
Y'know, screeching about the typical:"we are better than you but at the same time you dominate us o algo"
Anonymous No.7722191 >>7722192
>>7718086 (OP)
I think it's just that too many people are underpaid. The desire for wanting art and to support artists is there, but too many people earn minimum wage or some amount slightly above it, and after taxes that doesn't leave a lot left for non-essential purchases. Even $15/hr doesn't get you far these days. It's bad to assume the average buyer sets money aside specifically for art, so purchases like these would be with whatever money is leftover after necessities and hobbies/interests they place before art. If jobs paid their employees more then purchasing luxury items like art wouldn't hurt people's wallets so much.
>But artists need to eat too
Exactly. No one wins in this situation. If UBI existed and/or everyone's pay was doubled across the board, you would see way more people dropping $100+ on sketches and $500~1000+ on finished pieces without anywhere near as much hesitation.
Anonymous No.7722192
>>7722191
No logic is allowed on this thread, sorry.
This is a gender/race shitflinging zone :D
Anonymous No.7722193 >>7722201 >>7722342 >>7722895 >>7723260
>>7722189
What is with online women spewing this shit all the time? I basically never hear it irl and I'm in a pretty leftist place. There's a lot of women and men are different talk or women disapproving of men doing something irl but not this superiority thing.
Is it because women online are the lowest scum of the earth and has hit the bedrock socially and/or mentally and have nowhere to go but up so they just make the argument of them being better >just because we are ok?
Anonymous No.7722201 >>7722224 >>7722227
>>7722193
The terminally online types are social rejects.
To be a social reject as a woman you have to have some really serious mental issues. That's pretty much it.

>>7719124
Well the cute male thread has the same level of skill as any /ic/ thread: none.
Pic related
Anonymous No.7722224 >>7722227
>>7722201
Holy grim.
Anonymous No.7722227 >>7722331
>>7722201
>>7722224
>cherrypicked image from /cgsg/ to call the general lacking in art skill
>it's from a male artist
Layers upon layers of irony with this one, pure schadenfreude even.
Anonymous No.7722231 >>7722745
ITT: Nobody knows how capitalism works.
Anonymous No.7722296
>>7718086 (OP)
I'm glad I have clients but... I make $500 a month for a lot of time and effort
My hourly wage is not great, I do a type of trad art and it's very hard to charge for more because I'm already charging a lot, I'm afraid I won't have clients if I raise my prices
So when someone walks up to me and says I should be making a quarter of the hourly minimum wage instead of half, it's not a good feeling
I used to make more working in fast food when I was young, maybe I should have never quit flipping burgers, I'd probably be an assistant manager by now because I'm not a druggie
Anonymous No.7722331
>>7722227
Why does your general allow low skilled males in it?
Anonymous No.7722342
>>7722193
Anyone who is terminally online can succumb to that, women or not. It just so happens you're posting in a thread infested by the resident TERF schizo. With luck one day it will make some art instead of seething endlessly about men doing it.
Anonymous No.7722411
>>7721966
>>7721996
The fuck are you two talking about? Picasso was a scoundrel who nickel and dimed his clients, selling them shit he scribbled on napkins fir small fortunes
Anonymous No.7722684
>>7718086 (OP)
Skill-less people always get insanely insecure about their salaries because they think it's society's fault that they can't put effort into anything.
Anonymous No.7722728
>>7722187
nigger
Anonymous No.7722745
>>7722231
>Buy up popular IPs
>Encourage fan art of them to sell more merchandise based off said IPs.
>DMCA anyone trying to make money off fan art.
Am I close?
Anonymous No.7722778
>>7720307
anon you are retarded Its literally the exact same size as the original pic. took me less than 30 seconds to rotate it and confirm it. copy pasted the second one over the original with a red clipping layer over it to emphasize the point.
Anonymous No.7722895 >>7723012
>>7722193
They have no power over anyone irl and the only way to delude themselves into being superior is to crab on others online.
If they don't do it, they unironically kill themselves.

They actually believe calling someone a virgin or attributing low social status to anyone online actually works as a social shaming tactics, when most of the time it doesn't work irl, except on other mentally ill cunts.
These are the same type of women who will falsely accuse anyone of crimes against them, then admit they lied when they aren't getting any attention anymore.
I really can't explain why estrogen makes humans like this.
Anonymous No.7723012 >>7723378
>>7722895
The wildest shit to me is how desperate they cling to the accomplishments of people other than them (did you know the author of xyz was a woman!? did you women were responsible for all the early works in this genre!?!?!) so that they could both virtue signal to said group and assert their superiority or prevalence within a medium by association. Peak brown behavior.
Anonymous No.7723070
>bottom of the barrel moids seething and projecting on to hypothetical women in their heads to feel better their own mediocrity
Boo the fuck who niggas. So anyway OP artist is based for 100usd for sketches and more artist should the same, yeah?
Anonymous No.7723260
>>7722193
> anon can't draw because he's too busy hating women online
> meanwhile female artists get pay to draw
Pottery.
Anonymous No.7723265
The fuck happened in here lmfao

women dont argue with pajeets, they get off on you wasting your time on them. Just draw and let them be retarded on their own
Anonymous No.7723301
Gringos and gringo femoids are so mad that they get outskilled by Carlos lol
USA will be majority hispanic in a few decades btw :3
Anonymous No.7723350
>>7718086 (OP)

personally i like artists within the $100 to $400 range because they're usually talented enough to justify that price and juuuuust expensive enough that they're usually not likely to be AI scammers, since scammers rely on lowballing.

the higher prices are usually a reponse to increased demand, so charging more stops them from being flooded with work. that said, there are absolutely artists who are out of their minds when it comes to prices. you gotta remember that art is a luxury and people who cannot afford food will not buy art for obscene prices and i really wish that a lot of artists weren't shameless capitalists. i'm a nonprofit artist, although i don't take commissions either, i draw for me and work a day job instead.
Anonymous No.7723378
>>7723012
It's the same mentality as the type of modern stereotypical zooming fecesposters below use.
They think they are making others mad or that they are trolling.
Not to speak how unoriginal they are, since everyone does what they do now, that to really be affected by what they post, you would need to be completely new to the internet and to life in general.

I rather find it interesting to observe and how they relentlessly keep doing it all across the internet.
And pretending to be retarded can only go so far before one realizes that the twitter ragebait doesn't work outside of twitter with blue checkmarks pretending to be outraged and baited for engagement to get their $0.02 paychecks.
It's peak npc behavior.
Anonymous No.7723484
im surprised no one lewded her
Anonymous No.7723503
>>7719152
this isn't beg tier
Anonymous No.7723525
>>7718405
This anon gets it. I used to genuinely draw free shit for small businesses and they were all genuine cocksuckers. The moment I started charging they started taking what I do more seriously
Anonymous No.7723864
i charge 35 and i make 5 to 6 a week
i think i would do none if i charged 100