Thread 7721370

Pound for pound, which method of learning how to draw the human body is most important? Gesture drawings, life drawings, anatomical studies, or something else?

>>7721370 (OP)
I pound for pound your mom, you waste of database space.

Life drawing as much as possible if not daily.

>>7721370 (OP)
All of them

>>7721370 (OP)
yes, gesture keeps posing from being stiff, and allows you to get poses down without having to focus on small poses. Anatomy for filling in your gesture poses and making corrections if necessary, and drawing from life to train your internal library

Every “method” is a begtrap

>>7721400
Do tell.

I just did

>>7721399
now that ive finally been getting decent at life drawing after about a year of trying everything, holy fuck is this so true

>>7721370 (OP)
Where is this from, is this yours? It’s good

>>7721399
DESU gesture should also be balanced on anatomy.

Values and life drawing if you want to produce a good realist painting.
Anatomy if you care about artistic integrity.
Gesture if you care about artistry itself.
These will all conflict with each other, Michael John Angel said anatomical detail won't produce a good figure. Leonardo DaVinci said that focus on anatomy will make the figure look like a bag of walnuts. Meanwhile while looking at Venetian paintings Michelangelo in comparison said that they can't draw, and they in fact, couldn't.
Just work on all fields to the best of your ability chances are you'll never be satisfied with your art anyway. You pick what you find most important.

>>7721370 (OP)
Pound for pound, just draw

I draw the human (cartoon) body from imagination

There is no one size fits all, only different approaches that work better for some people in different situations.

>>7721399
>horrible printing
>wobbly as fuck lines
>can't even connect a circle
Yeh I'm not taking advice from you xD

>>7721370 (OP)
they're all important and you should be using them all in your tool box when drawing a figure
we condense things into fundies so they're easier to learn, not because this is how you draw when you make art

>>7721370 (OP)
I feel like i was tricked into memorizing all the names of the bones and muscles

>>7724092
Who tricked you? Proko?

>>7724099
Proko says the names are unimportant so it couldn't be him

I'd say it's anatomy, knowing about it helps with overlaps and definition of muscles in figure drawing. I think it's good to study anatomy while studying figure drawing at the same time.
When i began to study figure drawing, i didn't really bothered with anatomy, so my drawings were kinda meh, but once i studied anatomy, i noticed a huge difference.

Second is timed gesture drawings, helps a ton with perspective, foreshortening and observational skills.

THOOUGH, a good teacher or a good structured learning plan also helps A LOT. And ofc the obvious, learning to self critique.

>>7724099
too long ago to remember. before proko's time, wasn't a youtuber.

>>7723991
>>7723799
revised
>>7723764
XD

>>7724092
Unironically memorizing the topography is more important than memorizing every anatomical part and interlocking. Most medical anatomy books barely scrape on anatomy fully anyway, names don't matter as much as structure does.

>>7721370 (OP)
Genuinely, attempt and try all of them. Do Vilppu's gesture and figure drawings, do Steven Huston's, do Michael Hampton's, do chink's and gook's methods (like Rockhe Kim, Krenz or KJG), also do extremely slow and detailed anatomical studies from the likes of Scott Eaton, and Gottfried Bam, and last but not least do 3d sculptures.

All of them combined is the best method, they all describe in their own way the human form, consciously, and subconsciously, you will learn a very detailed knowledge, but at the same time abstract, of the human form which will allow you to simplify and modify the form as you want.

Obsess over it is my best advice, embrace your obsession. There is no "easy way", the best way is the most deranged way.
There is no specific course, or method that will give you the answer you wish for, the answer is all of them, to their extreme, at the same time.

>>7721370 (OP)
All of them are important, I think a better question would be the order you learn them in.
Anatomy > gestures > life.
Anatomically correct art without gestures is boring and stiff, but a lot of gestures without anatomy is ugly. So anatomy first, gestures later, and perfect it through life drawings. Imo