Thread 7748395

If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
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Thread challenge (Bust of Louis XIV)

>>7748397
I look like this

I feel like I only come here when I feel down

I’m in the OP twice waow

Done with this one. 13 hours of work total.

>>7748412
Good concept but you've made the common mistake of separating the breasts too much. The way you've shaded and added shirt wrinkles for each breast makes it look as if the shirt is vacuum sealed to her body. A tight shirt won't curve around each breast but will be stretched across them as if they form one mass.

>>7748426
Got it. Clothing is something I have to work on. Along with lineweight.

Finished prompt for tomorrow inktober

>>7748412
I redlined the shirt last thread and you changed nothing.

>>7748443
You did that so I could change it? I thought you did for fun or whatever. Either way, I wanted the shirt to be a little tight. So your redline didn't apply

>>7748443
hxhbro blog?

>>7748451
Why else would i do it? You got the direction of the folds all wrong even if the shirt is tight, the boobs hold the fabric up while the tuck pulls it down, the folds would be vertical not horizontal.
>>7748456
aku8694 on x and tumblr. Most active on tumblr

>>7748474
hey!
dont be mean!

wheres the anon who draws twinks being manhandled by mature men I need his opinion this

>i made it shitty on purpose!
take yo ass to r/learntodraw if you don't want crit fuck nigga

>>7748543
that twink is kinda wide

>>7748514
I wasnt trying to be mean. My bad if it comes off that way

>>7748474
The folds can be both vertical and horizontal. Though you'll rarely see both at the same time like in my drawing.

>>7748545
Only a cuck takes criticism without questioning it.

>>7748543
deerfag approved (not who you're talking about but just thought I'd say so lol)
very cute

>>7748564
Wheres the horizontal ones then? All i see is vertical following the pull of the fabric.
The arm ones are horizontal depending how you look at ,it never straight horizontal and they always come back to the point they are pinched from which is the elbow

>>7748395 (OP)
spice girl

>>7748591
Aren't the folds on her armpit to breast, and from the buttons to breast horizontal?

>>7748572
What board are you posting on retard? If you just want someone to say "wow thats so good" show your pictures to your mother

>>7748543
Not him but it's hot, twink is very cute

Do you guys draw on screenless?
Seems like quite the investment to buy a screen tablet for the average level of skill here...

Cute tomboy. Is she cute?

>>7748660
I only do wood block prints, fuck off

>>7748395 (OP)
le ballet drawing

>>7748572
>>>/r/learntodraw

>>7748662
i'm a sucker for short hair always, so yes.
this is personal taste and you can obviously disagree, but it's cute when tomboys are forced into feminine situations. maybe another feminine accoutrement to justify her uncomfortable look

>>7748660
I've drawn on both but I much prefer screened. It was a worthwhile investment, digital drawing is otherwise very low cost.
>>7748662
She is but the area of her bangs above the ear is kinda awkward. The hair otherwise looks like it's radiating from one point which is good but it makes that bit stand out because it doesn't follow the flow of the rest of the hair.

just passing through like a fart in the wind
have 2 monkeys for the price of one

>>7748443
very cool

>>7748660
i draw on regular samsung tablet that i use for other shenanigans

>>7748684
Deeply disturbed individual

>>7748684
poor monke

>>7748660
I've only used screenless because it was cheap, but it is cool because I can place a literal piece of paper over it and it won't affect the sensitivity at all. Gets rid of the plasticky gliding and scratching noise too.

>>7748684
Deeply based individual

>>7748701
>piece of paper
hmm based, does it affect the nibs?

>>7748709
I have found that only Wacom plastic nibs seem to desintegrate by the second.
XP-Pen and Huion nibs last like 20 times more.

>>7748683
I really like the motion on this one, it suits your loose linework very well. The fact that his hands aren't actually touching the pole does fuck it up though.

>>7748709
It doesn't, I think it's been half a month since I taped the paper to the tab but one week of use and the nib still has no visible slope to it. I even sanded down one of the nibs to reduce the lever effect when you press down to draw, feels more tight now.

Got back into trying drawing again because the pen is really nice for drawing with a light touch, Deco 01 I had before was a pain in the ass.

>>7748683
You improved since you last posted here

>>7748717
thanskies
(true, gotta fix that sometime)
>>7748729
:DDD
thanks!

>>7748645
Fuck off retard. You know people just post here for attention. Stop acting like it's not the case.

>>7748729
consistencyGOD
>>7748402
whats wrong?
the hands are very nice btw

>>7748761
self report

>>7748412
girls w guns c: love it
>>7748630
we stan paprika
>>7748683
love him c:
>>7748729
love the hair work in particular here, one of the reasons i wanna do some more anime study type things desu
>>7748766
holy fucking shit, i wish i could draw like this. 10/10

this the garbage i have to share today

>>7748785
youll get to my level faster than you think just stay consistent ur gmi

Do you guys have any kind of strategy when studying any specific part?
I can't help but feel like I'm going on auto right now and that the knowledge is not really entering my mind.

>>7748789
starting to get bored of this bit

>>7748795
pyw

>>7748795
:/

>>7748395 (OP)
haven't drawn from imagination in a long while, but i've done lots of figures since then. it was remarkably easier to create a woman's body from imagination. is this cute? she's now realizing how much her arms have grown over the course of a year

this is what 5 years of loomis leads to

>>7748816
CLEARS PBS

>>7748812
oh yeah and gimme crit. i don't care about shit like line cleanliness or whatever i care about forms, style, cuteness etc. what stands out as bad, as good, that sorta thing

Here's a little cartoon. I tried to keep volume and perspective in mind but it still feels like I'm slapping stickers on a page. I understand that every aspect is fundamentally wonky. I need to work on perspective and 3d objects, but what element do you think I could focus on that would elevate my doodles and feel like progress quickly?

>>7748701
>piece of paper
Feels great but eats the nibs very quickly. Mine are well fucked after 2 sessions on paper and nibs ain't cheap

>>7748812
What helps me is that the between the two clavicle bones is always the center of the torso. Yours is a touch off. The eyes aren't symmetrical and her jaw is two narrow.

>>7748864
Thank you. I'm actually making it a priority for the next few months to study heads, because I always miss something.

>>7748861
Depends on what paper I guess, the one I use is pretty soft and works better than the plastic surface.

>>7748766
That zombie is goated

>>7748869
I tried a few, ranging from cheapo printer paper to 300g smooth hot press, didn't change anything sadly.
I might get around to buying a metal nib, though there seems to be some evidence it fucks with your pen after a while

>>7748874
Well that sucks, maybe it just works for my use case or you probably draw a lot more than I do lol. At least the nibs for the basic bitch wacom tab are cheap, coming in packs of 5.

>>7748855
is the one fishing worried cause he can’t catch any fish and therefore might have to cannibalize what i assume to be his gf so he can survive or am i looking too far into it?

>>7748790
For studies I just draw whatever catches my attention. Do lots of studies and you'll slowly gain a sense for what looks right.

>>7748909
Not at all! That's pretty much in line with what I was thinking

>>7748919
wow, grim, hopefully he'll catch something soon

>>7748604
Aren't the folds on her armpit to breast, and from the buttons to breast horizontal?

>>7748984
Daddy looks like he has one of those tranny dicks the hooked up too high

>>7749020
Much. Since it's the focal point of the picture, fixing it unshits the rest of it a bit

>>7748917
I see. I mean, what frustrates me more is the control of proportions I guess. Since different references means diferent proportions for certain parts like torso, even if I make it sounds right I become annoyed that it's too far from what I want to myself.
At the very least, after some hours I at least feel more comfortable doodling so that's a gain I suppose.

I'm trying to do some video game icons... picture on the left is mine, the 3 on the right are the professional I'm trying to replicate/learn from. Can someone tell me specifically what I am missing, did wrong, could do better or whatever? I feel like my colors suck compared to his but I don't know how to fix it. I have no clue how to pick colors either. But I feel like I got the simple design style down.

>>7748984
Can you start tripfagging so I can filter you? I don't want to see the cutfag pederast nonsense you post nonstop. You do nothing but glorify abusive relationships and self-harm and it's fucking gay and lame. Also your art sucks balls.

This is my latest rendition of kaka, It's been a while since my last

>>7749032
you could have more contrast, and better color choices too. Shadows and highlights can have their hue shifted a bit. If you look at the one on the right, the shadows of the blue part are almost purple, while the highlights take on a lot of green.

In terms of overall design, the best game icons communicate the idea very clearly without needing a lot of knowledge on what it is supposed to represent. Silhouette is really important.
>some kind of laser or beam attack
>energy shield? armored suit? less clear
>I have no clue what the other two might represent

>>7749032
He seems to use heavier shading. Try adding the black border like his and see if it makes it pop differently

Sh-she's actually a 500 year-old vampire!!11!111one!1!11

>>7749048
Here, drawn up just for you. Now start posting with a tripcode so I can fucking filter you. I'm not interested in being an unwilling participant in your SPH tranny nonsense.

>>7749049
>better color choices too
I agree, can you point me in the direction of where I can start learning this? Maybe a book or something
>>7749052
The black border is just from my screen capture. In game the icons get scaled down to 64x64 with a border depending on the race (Starcraft 2).
Pic related, an example of the pro's icon scaled down. Mine tend to lose much more visual info than his when scaled down.

in progress
(won't actually continue on it)

>>7749070
the curious thing about posting on /ic/ is, whenever I do it I see the many mistakes. before it it seems a bit off but fine. I need to step back from time to time and imagine it posted. Maybe then I get the sketch stage right.

>>7749063
>I haven't drawn a single tranny character excepter from the time I did
Not him but do you read yourself?

>>7749063
I've already said my piece. It's already bad enough that this general exists to cram aspiring artists in with degenerates like yourself who simply want to share your masochistic self-harm fantasy of being "UwU daddy's widdle bweeding kitten UwU". Fuck off and tripfag already.

>>7748789
do animefags really?

>>7749090
>posts worst, weakest character as a reply image

>>7749093
Then aspire to something better. You can draw gay men and femboys but I don't want to see your weird masochistic fetish you love to post. I've seen enough groveling twinks with bloody UwU cutter thighs way too many fucking times. Even if you take away that I'm a salty crab at least tripfag if you're gonna post or go to a gay general.

>>7749097
What gives?

>>7749063
Ngl id like to filter your self harm stuff too, please use a name or trip

>>7749100
Oh, what's that?
>>7749105
I appreciate that. At least tripfag if you wanna draw your SH fetish stuff. Otherwise I look forward to seeing your mecha. Sorry if I came off as too abrasive, but somebody had to say it.

>>7749105
>big tits
>self mutilation
How in the fuck are these related in any way?

>>7749063
Don't worry about the criticism. They said the same shit to deer until she started posting chicks.

>>7749108
I mean, the guy he's stepping on is a god now but ok? And he was also btfo of the franchise like 2 seconds after that image

>>7749110
Guess what? I don't like the monkey, the pink shiny latex guy, or deer's artwork either. I don't want to see shitty bara/femboy gooner nonsense. There should be a dedicated yaoi general but nobody will step up. Nothing wrong with being a fujoshi, but I'm tired of seeing bara/femboy or self-harm nonsense posted by pooners.

>>7749119
The board has enough dead generals

>>7749070
finally something posted in one of these threads that isn't pure boring shit. Love this

>>7749061
I don't know of a book, but just try shifting your shadows and highlights in hue. Do you paint in greyscale then color after? I've heard that makes it a bit harder to make shadows and highlights different colors

>>7748789
damn this nigger is still at it

>>7749123
>I'm making a hard right on Saratoga

>>7749127
Why you gotta pick on him

>>7749125
>do you paint in greyscale
Nope I usually just find a similar image to what I want and then eyedropper for base, shadow and highlight

>>7749132
I think at some point you should move on and continue trying to become a good artist.

>>7749157
Mogs me

>>7749045
the hands are a bit fucked up, is the head too big? I'm in the middle of redrawing it but, idk

Quickie ink doodle

>>7749162
myabe the neck is too thick

>>7749160
It doesn't take that long to know how to draw a simple anime girl. The only way to really fuck it up is if you want to.

>>7749163
Can you remake this with her eyes, nose and mouth closer together?

>>7749166
Or lacking any kind of talent.

>>7749171
Unless you're someone who literally can't see their mistakes, then you can achieve something as simple as that if you just try enough. Look up any fucking tutorial on how to draw an anime face, follow it, add your own twist if you want, draw a simple body.

>>7749172
>Unless you're someone who literally can't see their mistakes
Yes. That is why lacking any kind of talent entails, being completely unable to see your own mistakes.
Ever notice how permabegs cant observe or measure by eye to save their own fucking life? Negative talent.

>>7749173
@grok is this true?

>>7749173
Have you tried studying correct things? If you study perspective, you'll be able to tell when someone fucks up their perspective, including if that someone is you. Same with lighting and anatomy.

why does everyone argue on this thread?

>>7749170
Probably, yeah. But I'll need to actually sketch and mold it with a pencil rather than trying to scribble it out with a pen.

>>7749183
The newest rotation of artists is quite hostile

>>7749187
Grim. No wonder peril, tomboy, milf and aiza... etc left

>>7749162
The AI says the head was too small lol

>>7749194
AI?

>>7749194
Holy grim

>>7749178
There are anons who are legit too talentless to get better.
>Pawell
>PBS
>Aizafag
>Sharkchad
>TC
They got corrected and studied over and over again and never had the knowledge solidified into their head.
If you have talent you go on to become a beast within months like favelachad and teacherfag.
If you dont then you are doomed to starve or quit.

>>7749192
namefags leaving is a good thing so good riddance to whoever those faggots are

>>7749195
Microsoft copilot, I just threw the picture in and said "Critique this drawing" and it pumped out a critique

I miss aiza...

What happened to chatgptfag?

>>7749196
Yeah, if there was ever gonna be a nail in the coffin of AI critiques that would be it

>>7749202
Prompted himself into a nodraw

>>7749199
Grim

>>7749211
>>7749202
It gets grimmer, I told it to "redraw it with all the suggested improvements" for shits and giggles and it crapped out a Juventus player

>>7749205
Obviously trolls and freaks like the monkeyfag and P*ige arent taken into account.
>>7749192
Milf's most recent artwork after the hack looked as if he had suffered a stroke. He went from promising rising beg to hellscape permabeg. It still gives me nightmares.
>>7749213
Are you the original chatgptfag?
>Copilot generated this
What the fuckkkkk. Since when can it generate so well? Anything worth shit had to be done with SD.

>>7749219
Huh. I missed that milf lore? What happened there. Care to post it or elaborate?

>>7749216
>>>/lsg/

>>7749119
nigga why are you so whiny

>>7749197
Hardwork beats talent

>>7749219
>Are you the original chatgptfag
no, I just used Copilot rn cuz i was bored

>>7749235
Silence, negroid.

>>7749238
Silence nendoroid

>>7749213
Lemme try it myself
>Make a rushed sketch of an idea pose from memory
>Ask chatgpt to redraw it in certain style
>It fucking works
I will use it for reference. Goodbye suckers!

>>7749236
Teacherfag and Niggu making it to pro level in less than a year while other hardworkers remain permaint for their whole life says otherwise.
I am not even mentioning the permabegs who lack any kind of talent. I am talking about the permaints like frenchie, nemo, raxav and that pink brush guy who put in the work but are still well below talented niggers like Teacherfag.

An overwhelming vision saturates the imagination, providing feedback for all senses. Visuality is just a part of a complete artistic impression. Drawing is entertaining as an activity, but the results are just too limited in their potential to completely captivate the attention of the observer (though perhaps more "estimulating" because of it). I want to be like ZUN sensei, even if I (most likely) fail horrendously at the attempt. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>7749241
I wouldn't do that, I remember using an AI generated pic someone gave me for reference before and it had messed up perspective. But, that was freshly generated and on ChatGPT

The quest for appeal continue

>>7749213
Sovl
>>7749216
Sovless

>>7749244
Maybe they're not working hard enough
>nemo
Using him as an example... he admitted he never studied composition

Yeah maybe they're not "hard workers" lol

>talented fags
Not putting my hands in the fire for anyone rising from /beg/ inexplicably fast in this day an age. Show me a filmed timelapse of them working on a piece or I'll just assume they're using AI and therefore cheating.

Who the hell is teacherfag? Can someone post his work?

>>7749249
broken stomach

It seems like a lot of things about art is less about skill and more about patience. There have been many times in which I made an underwhelming piece simply because I didn't have the patience to polish it more, or change certain things. Or maybe patience is a skill in itself in this case...

>>7749241
>>Make a rushed sketch of an idea pose from memory
I spent like a half hour sketching the original from a reference :'(

>>7749257
Is it? I think it's too big compared to the ref but i'm not sure how it's broken.

here are some drawings
no fetish no self harm just a bit of depression but I'll never be not depressed severely

>>7749216
ankle bone is high on the inside, low on the outside

So why shouldn't I just use vector art all the time?

>>7749187
i cant remember it being this hostile

>>7749192
i miss peril

>>7749238
why are you such a whiny nigga

>>7749250
TALENTNUKE

Found a new boy to draw, life is good

>>7749244
>Niggu making it to pro level
his work isn't pro level
>Teacherfag
post his work

Nigga created someone called teacherfag in his own mind lmao, it doesn't even exist

>>7749293
>>7749289
nta but it is this guy,
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7724407#p7727686
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7728330#p7729228
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7728330#p7728943

once again the charm of nihus art is specifically that it isn't pro, or even mid
int, or whatever people say
it's low int max
the fact it looks slightly wonky is why people like it

>>7749130
i don’t wanna do this but we gotta ditch the quaaludes

I think if I draw 1000 of these I'll get good

>>7749296
>2 sketches
why is that nigga shilling him as a pro?
a pro would be able to make something like picrel that is marketable enough to be in a game or other media
I don't even need to say that it's light years ahead of this guy's skill and niggu

>>7749305
I thought this was a picture of Cammy brapping before I expanded image

How ironic that it's so difficult to draw hand when you draw hand with draw hand

>>7749305
Because you're talking to a zigger schizo, he shills everyone as a pro and he lies constantly just to "prove that talent exists"

Working on the lines, it has been a nice weekend.

Forgot how fun drawing high was
>>7749278
You're right, thanks

>>7749119
i can't remember the last time I posted yaoi tho and I don't think I've ever posted self harm kek

>>7749310
Sadly he barely draws, it's hilarious when you mock his drawings and he starts saying scum

What was I supposed to do now that I’ve accepted that I’m a permaprebeg who is NGMI?

I'm trying to figure out how to draw his hair

>>7749320
you schizopost about talent and arbitrarily ranks recurring posters to generate division and internal conflict

It makes me feel bad how much I rely on reference.

>>7749320
>>7749323
Arbitrarily rank me bro

In need of guidance. I've been studying fundies using frank oreilly method and proko's anatomy course. I use robert beverly hale's proportion units. Any advice is appreciated

>>7749329
Fucking humblebraggart

>>7749331
uh would prefer a crit instead of name calling sir/ma'am

>>7749329
Are you like an engineer by trade or something?


Is this cute?

>>7749336
>would prefer a crit
bewm, headshot

>>7749342
what's up with his gynecomastia

>>7749342
I'm a mechanical enginner and I only draw big titty anime girls

hmm.. well, here's a question, how do i draw?

>>7749348
if any of us knew the answer we wouldn't be here

>>7749344
It's not gyno. She's just built.

>>7749351
you should take the question as a sign that something has gone wrong with your depiction of her boobs

>>7749353
There's nothing wrong with her boob. Her chest is in a flexed position because her arm is away from her body, which causes the muscle to lengthen. I'm not going to deny it's an unfeminine trait, but unless there's an anatomical argument I'm gonna trust my gut on it and just say difference of taste.

>>7749366
lengthened position* derp

I think it looks okay. gonna start coloring it an lining it

>>7749342
not an engineer. I'm a NEET, the freetime allows me to study fundies. Also rad poster WYSVJ

>>7749382
dude it looks like those old wireframe computer animations, totally sick. and thank you

Just tried drawing things without stopping to fix

>>7749384
thanks anon I hope we all make it

>>7749366
...

I came from another thread following a little bit of advice. You guys are helpful, but I am quite temperamental, really. I wish for your input and critique. I have very little tools, but I found my old pencils and colored pencils after many years.

if a drawing here gets ignored does that mean it's shit or that it just doesn't need any advice or critique?

>>7749414
it probably wasn't interesting enough to warrant a reply.

>>7749411
You dare to even call yourself a beginner? Your technique is laughable, your style is clunky, and frankly, if you ask me, it would be best for you to give up, as you seem to lack both motivation and potential.

Your file is a waste and you are the joke of this thread.

>>7749420
chatgpt?

>>7749421
No, my honest thoughts, /beg/ & /int/ is for art, not for uninspired trash that a monkey, or even an elephant, could do better in creating.

>>7749414
There are tons of reasons why, it’s hard to say. Just post it again or tag it

Why does the thong feel flat.

>>7749430
well it wasn't just mine but I also noticed some decent pieces here getting ignored so I was kinda curious but mine was this one >>7749378

>>7749414
It's either not anime and/or not part of the discord's clique

>>7749433
There no consistent reason. You could vaguely generalize it as not being interesting enough to make someone type

If nothing helps try sex.

>>7749420
>>7749424
unsure why a bunch of flowers that even display some 3D form understanding trigger this strong reaction, given there's so much worse flat no effort stuff itt.

>>7749433
Well I’ll give you some crit

Good facial proportions, hair, and overall anatomy. Decent line work too.

As for crit, I think the mouth is a tad too wide/large. Hair is a bit symbol drawn. Study some hair from life to get a better feel for it. Like I don’t think it should be so triangular, and the pattern of short hair that you have on bottom right doesn’t look natural in contrast to the rest of the hair. Clothing needs some more planning overall. Like the bottom of his clothing just looks very lackluster compared to the folds around his neck for example. Same thing as before, study real shirts because right now it’s hard to read. Also the background needs more clarity. Try to tell a story with the background. Right now, it’s very unclear what purpose the background serves in your drawing aside from simply being there.

>>7749313
gmi

>>7749433
They’re not getting “ignored” lol you have to give people a chance to respond

>>7749027
I have no idea what I am doing anymore.

WIP
Trying to draw an actual scene instead of just a character floating in an empty void is hard but also fun

>>7749451
Imo this is something you should try drawing multiple times before trying to draft a final. Like draw this a lottt if you feel stumped and try different approaches

>>7749446
I actually didn't notice his mouth is too wide so that's helpful and I'll see about studying some hair since I never bothered to practice drawing it anyway

also I don't know if it matters but the bottom of his clothes is supposed to be being blown away because the flames are so strong, that's why it's like that

>>7749279
if you like using it and like the result then there is no reason not to.

>>7749455
I understand anon. I still think it could be drawn better

>>7749414
Asking for critique usually helps, most of the time there's nothing wrong with them.

>>7749459
hmm okay. well thanks for taking the time to give me some input anon

>>7749461
I don’t mean to come off rude, but even though I get what you’re trying to depict, I think that it’s something you should just experiment with more. Like I just think that if they’re being blown away they need to be drawn moving in one direction. It’s not badly drawn or anything, I just think it’s a concept that needs more time since it’s complex

>>7749037
fully agree, this nigga also posted his microdick for all of us to see once for no reason

>>7749331
Take a break anon, there was no bragging anywhere.
Personally I don't even see anything that warrants bragging. It's low /beg/, though it may show some first understanding of construction.

If it impresses you, you are a permabeg. There's no cure.

>>7749414
if it's too different to what I draw (flowers, tumblr/calarts stuff, guro, ...) I don't reply.
If it is too perma/beg/ I don't reply. If it is more of the same of something I already commented on, I don't reply. And sometimes I just don't reply.

I only leave negative replies if the drawing is bad AND the artist agitates. To schizo pre/beg/ howies who ask if they should continue I don't reply, unless I feel compelled to say they should just give up.I consider this a service, consultancy pro bono. I'm not the only one who does it, so don't think it's just one gu disliking your art.

I leave positive replies when I see good work, but not always (see: more of the same fatigue). I also comment positively if I notice improvements, or if I consider works very creative or interesting.

I actively engage more with artists who share their routine, hours spent on work, hours/years of drawing, techniques used, brushes used, reference used, give some background to their idea (no deviantart OC fanfic, more like what inspired the work), who he considers a role model etc.

>>7749481
>If it is too perma/beg/ I don't reply
I see

>>7749481
>he

>>7749481
and no value was lost

male study using drawings as reference, critique is appreciated

I was doddling and instead of just dropping it, I actually finished a drawing this time yippie
drew my league mains, looks kind of ass but ykyk

>>7749414
>if a drawing here gets ignored does that mean it's shit
Generally yeah. I've noticed most people don't actually like to crab unless the artist deserves it, and don't offer critique unless there is something obvious to change/improve. If a work is all around bad, it will simply go ignored. It doesn't help either that people tend to leave the thread once they start seeing real improvement and begin to find acceptance in better art communities, taking their knowledge and skills with them.

What do you think? Did I mess up? I intended to use the reference, but I didn't want to copy it completely.

>>7749499
is that supposed to hwei? really good either way anon

>>7749506
thats very clearly aphelios

>>7749401
Dot dot dot. I posted an example of what I'm talking about and you've got nothing. Either redline me or shut the fuck up.

>>7749509
...

>>7749511
Y-Yeah, EXACTLY. Now SHUT UP.

my drawings usually look worse when I start to line and color them and it bums me out

>>7749516
take the grey pill

>>7748989
look if you keep insisting that youre right, theres no point for me to keep replying to you. some folds might be horizontal, it depends on the pull of the fabric, which ive stated many times now.

How is Concept (the app) for sketching and doodling? I find it to be more intuitive than Krita, but I'd still use some other software for art study and serious work/practice

Do you have advices on how I could've make the water look better ?

Trying out Infinite Painter with the usual imaginashon slop because not being able to 100% hardness a brush in Sketchbook felt limiting and didn't like the midtone brushes

>>7749522
It's pretty alright, a lot of features like perspective grids are locked behind a one time payment wall, but it has all the advantages of a vector based app, the infinite canvas feature is nice because you can gather all ideas regarding a project in a single place, just keep in mind it's more taxing on system resources, noticeably in larger projects and/or with sketches using many lines, and I'm pretty sure it uses more battery than the 2 I mentioned in this post too

>>7749522
>>7749544

But yeah, for sketching and doodling I'd totally not recommend it unless you've a beefy machine because it slows down noticeably with sketchy drawingsq, raster is better for just effing aroung imo

>>7749543
value groups are scattered everywhere
take a closer look at the references and chunk the shapes out of brightness ignoring any small brightness details

how can i make it look more like a pool floatie?
ignore bg still working on it

>>7749499
beats everyone itt

>>7749609
i can draw like that.... if i felt like it

Doodle at work. Should I kill myself, /ic/?

>>7749595
meh just gonna keep it at this. im out of time i need to work on the next proompts

I am making manga for a local contest and in the rules they demand A4 format with 300dpi for monochrome print. But shit turns out so pixelated I can cut myself on pixels. I am a newbie and never made anything for print, just digital. I read on forums that you need to draw upscaled with bigger canvas and dpi, but what the fuck is the difference if it will be printed with 300dpi anyway? Extra pixels won't magically appear. Am I retarded? Are the organizers retarded? I looked at previous contest works and they are definitely at least 600dpi and some are not even monochrome but grayscale. I feel like I'll be the only dumbass who actually follows the rules and will suffer for it lol

>>7749627
its not a normal format but it shouldnt be a problem. make sure you have monochrome layers and no anti aliasing. if youre on csp, you can easily set this in the creation of the project. the only problem i have is that i cant set the dpi lower than 600 so keep that in mind. not sure why they ask for 300, seems pretty low indeed.

>>7748397
Beg trys beg fails

So I'm interested in getting to drawing as a hobby. I already have a drawing tablet as a hand me down. Should I start with digital first ?

>>7749654
Do you want to draw digital or trad? theres pros and cons to both of them

>>7749656
I am heavily favoring digital, since I already got the tablet. I'm fine starting with either however

>>7749659
You can always do both. Trad forces you to learn some of the fundies, though. I wouldn't neglect it entirely. Digital best if you're looking to post online / do commercial stuff. Uf you're super beg then there's no real need to invest in good art supplies either. So bottom-line, do both!!

>>7749509
you’re too stubborn to be worth arguing with, sorry
the reference you posted isn’t even how the breast looks…

>>7749659
unless you are heavily abusing digital tools most of your skill should carry over between digital and trad anyway

>>7749666
>Trad forces you to learn some of the fundies
You need fundies for both doe, friction > Lasso tool and it's not even close

>>7749431
A-anyone?

Seems like starting with either would be okay. I'll think I'll start with digital and do some occasional dabs in trad as I gain more experience

>>7749673
Never implied that you didn't need fundies for both just that, for example, colour mixing gives you a better understanding of colour theory than picking colours or some other digital shit. Reading comprehension is the most important fundamental.

>>7749676
It doesn't desu

>>7749678
I'd say do digital when you have time to sit down and focus but get a small sketchbook to carry around so you can doodle when you have free time.

>>7749521
You said the clothes should not be horizontal in my drawing. I'm just saying that they *can* be. That's all.

>>7749420
now where did the flowers touch you

I feel hungry.

>>7749312
Any crits? Still trying to figure out how to make the left character more interesting here.

>>7749618
no

>>7749742
The talented oaf is bragging again

>>7749783
Why criticize you? You already understand the basics and can normally outline the center of the head, eyes, etc. The rest is unimportant. Also>>7749786

>>7749431
Can anyone help me with the groin/thigh anatomy? The aacneding thigh aint looking correct
>>7749695
It doesnt follow any curvature and when it does it goes the other way around.

>>7749786
What does oaf mean though?
>>7749787
>The rest is unimportant. Also>>7749786
Things still get broken to me once I stop copying though. I am too incompetent for creating anything by myself.

>>7749792
Don’t reply on my behalf weirdo

the way you guys act like a beg is bad for asking for help or "humble bragging" because they draw anime is why this thread is useless
>>7749312
the neck is attaching to the head strangely on the right figure along with the shoulder being oddly placed and protruding above the bust, the left figure is stiff and relatively flat. also the pelvis on the right figure is at an off angle, i would change the fold around her thigh and see what looks better. for compositions sake, don't hide left figures hands like that. good job otherwise

>>7749794
I lack the basics of interpretation and thought it meant me too. Sorry.

>>7749795
Thank you, I’ll work on those.
>>7749787
>criticize
Critique, and everyone can use it. We’re /beg/s after all.

>>7749787
the way you retards think anyone who draws in an anime art style is int and therefore humble bragging if they ask for critique is so unbelievably fucking retarded please fuck off and leave forever you permabeg talentless autist

>>7749797
My bad, I thought you were making some strange jab. Keep up the good work :>

stop discouraging begs from acting for criticism by acting like they're humble bragging for asking for help
useless fucking general

>>7749802
it's one guy relax

>>7749817
the problem is this one guy is a prolific retard who's here shitting up the thread 24/7 and this thread isn't moderated anymore

>>7749618
you should stop thinking suicidal ideation is cool and funny. it will fuck your brain up in the long run. I know from experience

tree

>>7749787
Blud thinks drawing a circle with a center line is something only talented RATS can do

>>7749856
looks cool except the tree itself

>>7749856
sick

>>7749722
dubs and it was his dick

I can share more details to this, if you would like, but truth be told, the main point of posting it here was to serve as a file bin.

>>7749420
The post that saved /beg/

>>7749856
Looks cool, but leaf brush sticks out like an eye sore

>>7749431
>>7749676
maybe you envisioned something like this

>>7749856
how does the digital process of coloring and layering work?
Any video you could recommend?

How many wokie points would a yuri piece get me on a drawing contest?

I'm sick of it all

Imagine if most of you weren't annoying fucking permas and we could have actual conversations on what you can do to improve your art

>>7749961
Looking good

>>7749543
water doesn't flow sideways like that

>>7749343
first man to die by being shot by A.I.

Made some more art for my favorite vtuber! Made this with my new tablet, then did a physical watercolor before that ill share after this one. I really enjoy making things :)

>>7749927
fuckin knew it.

Finished the second lesson in New Art Academy on 3DS today. It's sorta fun and the handheld console provides a distraction-free environment.

jujutsu girl that arleady fought a thousand battles
>>7749961
nice

>>7749798
Nobody helps here, they just spit, that's an example >>7749481

>>7749931
Yeah, don't like it either. Too many textured brushes that don't go well together. I should choose 2-3 before draw.
>>7749953
This is drawn in monochrome. I simply add a gradient map with the colors I like and change hue after.

>>7749244
>>7749305
I am that "teacherfag". I honestly don't get it. No matter how much I try to tell people, I'm still very much beg-tier. I can copy linework, draw a few basic pieces and do some studies from refs, but that's about it. After a while of posting, I'd rather just focus on actually drawing and learning stuff, which is actually the fun part. I might return in another year or so, but for now, this will be it.
Again, I don't get it. I just draw, but schizos be schizin'.

>>7750096
You can copy from the reference normally, I can’t find and evenly draw the center of the head and eyes, you like to draw because you are good at it, I hate this crap >>7750077

>>7750110
Don’t draw if you hate it. If you hate it now you still won’t like it when you have more skill. You have to enjoy the process for it to be rewarding.

>>7750117
To have fun, you or at least someone else needs to love what you draw. If they make fun of you or just ridicule you, you naturally start to hate them.

>>7750121
Not true. Learn to enjoy the process of self-improvement and stop caring about what other people think. I don’t like what I draw much either but working on making myself better and measuring my improvement over time pleases me. Learn to be more egotistical and stop using other people as your measuring stick.

>>7750126
The whole fucking /ic/ is full of cattle who measure by others, you wrote what I said, you get pleasure from self-improvement, I am not improving, I can’t and don’t know how to draw a head normally, how to set the forehead, how to draw the hole between the eye sockets in the turns, eyes, ears, etc.

>>7750132
Then practice more or quit. Bitching about it does nothing for your situation.

>>7750136
Excellent advice, but why didn't you quit drawing when they told you that? Or maybe they didn't tell you because your drawings were good and people liked them, you talented rot

>>7750148
I kept practicing and I continue to do so. I won’t ever quit. I have been insulted and laughed at here plenty of times but I will always keep working.

>>7750152
Everyone I've seen here loves you, but they hate me, and these bastards get offended when I respond to them with their aggression.

>>7750156
I’m not the teacher guy lol. Anyways just draw and stop mcwhining.

>>7750152

Besides, these bastards fell in love with you when you started drawing well, you filthy hive of scum, before that they mocked others who wanted help from them, and now when I reveal their essence, these bastards

>>7750158
I draw, here is the result>>7750077

>>7750163
Drop your blog and I’ll talk to you in private, we’re shitting up the thread.

>>7750164
https://discord.gg/5fhBqhAB

We're all making fun of the talentschizo's latest head sketches in the secret rat discord right now.

>>7750174
>>7750174
The last drawings are good, bite your tongue, dog spawn

>>7750186
lol
lmao

>>7750174
Who is talentschizo again?

>>7750189
You are proof that you need to be bullied so that newcomers see you as enemies who are falsely pretending to be helping.

>>7750186
>The last drawings are good,

>>7750192
i'll do it tomorrow

>>7750068
helping you schizos is evil.
Not because it makes a difference, but because it gives you the illusion that you get engagement and you double down with your anti-talent output.

>>7750199
cope

>>7750194
This freak >>7750077

>>7750201
You justify talent for not providing assistance by inventing nonsense, do not deviate from the original post

>>7750192
i did a quick sketch of a character and then coloured her in

>>7750077
Is this some elaborate trolling?

>>7750215
I drew heads and eyes

>>7749414
>gets ignored does that mean it's shit
i see people trashing on artists here for no reason all the time, sometimes a schizo fixates on one anon and sometimes it results in hilarious beef like when deeranon was beefing with that tracer who was fixated on them
if it gets ignored then this could be this>>7749417

>>7750205
Oh my.
>>7750215
I would really like to believe it is, but I don't think so.

>>7750217
Quit lol

>>7749954
d-dobson-kun?

>>7750222
I'm learning to draw, this is a /beg/ thread, you're an idiot for kicking me out

>>7749414
sometimes it feels like people here would rather discuss drama and gawk at schizos than talk about their art

>>7750228
You've been trying for 1 year+ with no progress

>>7750229
I posted drawings, you ignored me and called me schizo, it's your fault

>>7750230
I've been drawing for less than a year, 5-15 minutes a week sometimes. Naturally, I have such results. Instead of helping, you only whine about talent and drive away newbies.

>>7750228
based

>>7750231
i just came to this thread, i barely come here because niggas are always fighting lmao over stupid bullshit

>>7750235
>5-15 minutes a week sometimes.
Retard kys

>>7750242
stop being a dick
>>7750235
if you have more time, try dedicating an hour minimum to drawing/practice

>>7750242
Give me some advice and don't insult me, which is why I'm showering you with epithets.

>>7750243
Nah, i'll keep being a dick, this guy derails the thread EVERYDAY with talent bullshit and yet he draws 15 minutes a week

>>7750235
>a week
You mean 5-15 minutes a day, right anon? Tell me this isn't true. You've got to be joking, I don't believe you.

>>7750244
You don't have talent...

>>7750245
how about i derail a train of thick, juicy futanari dick into your mouth bitchass nigga?
Why does your mouth run so much, you obnoxious chatter box, i'm gonna enjoy fucking you up when i teach you what that mouth's true purpose is you fucking faggot.
After all the girlies are done sapping your root chakra, you will know your fucking place

>>7750235
>5-15 minutes a week sometimes
Whatever information you retain is lost by the next week from lack of serious practice.
This is like someone saying they lift weights for 15 minutes a week and act surprised when people tell them they're never going to get stronger.

Nobody replied to my art uou

>>7750254
Gee, that's embarrasing.

>>7750257
Link it.

>>7750254
You're really gonna cuckold yourself in your own insult?

>>7750209
>her

>>7750257
Same. It happens

>>7750254
>how about i derail a train of thick, juicy futanari dick into your mouth
what that supposed to be bad or something

>>7750244
what are you having trouble with anon? are you trying to draw faces? it looks like you are trying to draw a mix of realistic faces and anime faces
my advice is to take your time- there is no need to rush
use references from irl and from artists that you like
>import ref into program
>break each piece into basic 3d shapes
>go from big shapes to small
>the goal here is to make simplify your reference and understand the building blocks that make up the reference
follow guides or books i can reccomend a few if you wish


general tips for drawing faces in order of difficulty in my opinion (starting with the easiest at the top)
>be consistent in your practice
study the human skull
>sphere for back of head
>cylinder for face
>study facial proportions
>learn rule of thirds
>study how to draw different face shapes (i would reccomend finding irl references for this one, but there are a few artists who are good at drawing unique facial features)
>study different race's facial features and phenotypes the different beauty each race provides the world makes shit very interesting (use irl references for this one too)

>>7750260
dont get it twisted you are public use, in other words for the streets
>>7750267
oh, are you gonna show us a good time, anon?

>futa erp in /beg/
is this really what we are doing now?

>>7750261
yes anon, i want HER to rape my face with HER girthy gal cock as HER salty ball sweat mixes with my drool as it drips down my chin
i NEED HER to forcefully makeout with me as HER make up smears all over me and i am powerless to escape HER powerful grasp as HER hands force my face in front of HERS
all because SHE wanted to do was to taste HER own semen without being gay so SHE accosted some drunk dude waddling down the street and made him taste it but then SHE got too curious and decided to go for a snowball fight

>>7750278
Honestly it's what these threads deserve.

>>7750235
>5-15 minutes a week
Arbiter wolf mogs you lil bro

>>7750278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMAnCgjeZ4Q

>>7750280
deerfag...

>>7750077
Unironically DEATHRAPEOBLIVIONFUCKGAPEMURDERMOGS PERMABEGSCHIZO.
>>7750096
>Guise I am a beginner who just has a perfect grasp of perspective, anatomy, construction and portraiture in less than a year guise.
Fucking humblebragging talented little nigger. Always so blind to your own gifts.

>>7750291
does that art look remotely like deeranons worK?

first time posting in ic

do i just post my WIP and ask my question? i don't want to be out of line

>>7750259
>>7750061
>>7750051

>>7750340
It's a bit too abstract for me to really give any critique on.

>>7750339
Have you made your first born blood sacrifice to our Dark Lord Vilppu yet?

>>7750348
guessing that means "just post it, faggot"

first: i'm completely self taught, never followed any curriculums or prompts in my life. started drawing with graphite about a decade ago and never tried coloring anything at all. hated paint.

ok so im not working on structure and proportion right now, so i roughly blocked out this self portrait from a reference

i'm working on light, color, and reflection

do these sunglasses convey reflection or does it just look flat like a decal?

ignore the blue that's so i don't forget to remove it

>>7750353
is the reflection in the glasses suppose to be a reference to that one meme of that guy w the jacked arms

the idea seemed good in my mind but only unappeal came out.
That said it underlines her alien nature. Something is off!

>>7750382
Morpho?

>Asura-kun (Asura's Verdict) does a good deed by going on a pretend date with a lonely older fellow to help him feel a little happier
Just realized I don't really know how to render at all. I should fix that. Maybe I'll come back to this later but for now I'm done

tried mecha drawing
it's really hard to come up with a coherent and interesting design

>>7750400
ayo bruh i fux with this shit, reminds me of a damn yugioh monster
>>7750382
keep studying big bro this shit looks like ur getting it
>>7750378
fym, my nigga? this androgynous mecha elf lady is badass and i fw ya linework
deadass bruh w/ skill like that why dont you try to get an industry job somewhere?

>>7750393
One of the more impressive actual beginner drawings I've seen.

>>7750406
ty on god for real for real you feel me

>>7750390
ye
>>7750406
thanks lil bro

>>7750346
well heres the one i did today

>>7750442
Leo Frank being lynched for raping a child, 1912, colorized

>>7750450
LMAO

>>7749941
Frenchie? Thanks nigga I love you.

>>7750409
Wow, thank you!

>>7749701
Sounds good. I think I'll go for this anon, thanks. Wonder how long I should draw for each day to get into the habit, maybe 20 minutes to get started

>>7749856
jesus
post learning source

I assume you didn't finish yet or this is just a sketch and that you want to bring attention to the tree, but making it the only object with more than 1 value in the whole picture might be over it
it at least a little bit of the immediate surroundings were a bit rendered it would improve a lot

>>7750442
Looks line penor

nothing really mattress

>>7749244
Are you the same faggot that glazes Niggu all the time in these threads? lmao, dont get me wrong but Niggu is not pro level even when it looks like he devotes himself to art full time. Meanwhile frenchie and even nemo do this as a hobby only and they outskill him at a glance.

>>7750442
shalom

>>7750521
nta but nihu barely started a year ago while the other two have a solid decade of drawing.

>>7750532
Nice cope. Meanwhile Nihu is a proven AI tracer just like is mentor.

permabeg checking in
how do I draw simple backgrounds that aren't boring idk I feel like something's off here
>>7750535
good art and ref, though I like the exaggeration of the waist with no ref

>>7750536
It was proven he was referencing AI, not tracing

>>7750096
Senseifag how can I COPE WITH THE SUICIDAL IDEATIONS because I will never be a tenth as good as you?

>>7750551
yeah, he even references the AI fuckups

>>7750555
hows this messed up?

>>7750558
???

>>7750559
ya i can open the first image just fine, not sure what zooming in on the same exact photo with no explanation will accomplish but im still lost
are we talking abt the pinky looking off? the pointer finger? use ur words like an adult!!!!

>>7750521
Frenchie only have lineart, can't color
Nemo has skill but no sovl
Nihu has nothing but good ideas to go viral

Now let's stop inflating their egos, and please ignore talentschizo, i see the same discussion everyday
EVERY. SINGLE. DAY
Seems like i died and went to hell while trying to draw

>>7750560
where is the index coming from?

>>7750559
Why do some artist chose the weirdest finger poses. Try to that irl

>>7750567
It's not weird at all,

>>7750551
What´s the difference? reference means reference, not copying 1:1

>>7750569
nta but no wonder the bar is so low here if you dont find anything wrong with calling pro someone like him

I see the art here is overwhelmingly of characters/anatomy. do you guys practice objects and backgrounds like what is covered in Perspective Made Easy, or go all in on anatomy?

>>7750561
If you guys posted lolis you would actually have some moderation

>>7750571
Only talentschizo calls him pro, he calls everyone pro just to derail the thread, he admitted he only draws 15 min A WEEK
I wish people would ignore this bullshit

>>7750571
i think hes a clown that was never able to progress due to fear of failure and actual hard work. X and online galleries are full of them, Brazilians really have the same IQ as SEAs lol

stop gossiping and draw

and now for something completely different
another pre-bath drawing but I decided to try and do a more mobile pose
leaned a little into doing scribblies to approximate something that looked ok and then mostly erasing and redrawing
didn't use a reference bc I didn't want to muck about finding one
does it look passable for beg tier slop

>>7750577
I only draw 15 minutes a week, and i already used my minutes, gotta gossip

>>7749312
>>7749795
Very scuffed first draft of a redraw per usual but I think it is more expressive and less flat. I fixed up some of the neck and shoulder issues on the right figure I think but still trying to figure out all the skirt folds around the pelvis.

>>7750578
pose looks good, the tibia looks like a chiken leg, the face and the shield are flat, i understand that the shield is following the direction of the body but it is its own volume and not an extension of the body, clean it up janny.

Just a sketch to share today

This sketchbook is already getting the shit kicked out of it

>>7750637
I like it, reminds me of detective conan

Guys I've practiced a bunch and still can't even do the most basic practical stuff. I've improved at my narrow practice focus (heads, poses) but it somehow doesn't seem to help me draw people in motion which is what I ultimately want. Frankly I am fucking depressed. I don't understand why my practice doesn't seem to make me a better artist, just a better study drone.
Should I get into comics or something to force myself to be more practical?

>>7750640
Nice, thanks

it looks worse now that I've started coloring =(

>>7750660
Try a different palette. Color the lineart a bit. There are options.

>>7750666
>Color the lineart a bit
do you mean use a different color besides black for the lines? or did you mean something else?

>>7750667
Yes

>>7750572
Most people will want to start with character drawing, so a lot focus on anatomy in the beginning

>>7750577
I tried

>>7750572
Gonna start with Perspective Made Easy once I'm done with Figure Drawing For All It's Worth. I kind of understand what Loomis was saying but I'd rather go more in depth with an actual perspective book later.

>>7750573
lsg being a flaming shithole says otherwise.
>>7750096
Senseifag please help me crawl out of permaprebeg status!!!!!

jesus christ, i cant do faces, or anything for that matter after taking a two week time off from drawing.
an hour on this.

>>7748662
she looks like a worm
but her face is very cute yeah

>>7750301
I think you're vastly overestimating my skill level there, bud, but I'll take it as a compliment, anyways.
>>7750554
I read somewhere that the hardest part of learning anything is the first step. Getting over that initial self loathing is extremely difficult. Accepting that we are shit is okay, but knowing what about it is shit is the more important part. If your noses suck, draw 50 noses by first studying from a book.
>>7750699
I can't help you physically. If you're still a prebeg, then my best advice is not to be too ambitious in what you can draw. It's about the smaller victories, and one perfect arm study should feel amazing. Break down things you see, a cup is a cylinder with a half donut shape for a handle glued onto it. Practice the simple forms, and that should help. Drawing cool stuff comes later. Right now, I'm neck deep in Inktober, and it's extremely performative. I don't really like it, and it takes away time for me to improve. Try to not stick to one drawing for more than 10-20 minutes at most, I'd say 5-10 minutes for smaller studies at most is optimal. There's a bunch of tutorials online that will help you. I don't particularly like youtube, but sometimes there's stuff on there that are actually okay. Just remember, it's there to keep your attention, not to improve your skills. That's how corpos make money. Also, try doodling in a sketchbook, which is just for you. Don't show it to anyone else you aren't comfortable with, and use it as a meditative practice tool. Just drawing basic forms on paper will help more than giving your time away to leeches like Google and Meta.

Mogs PBS, mogs this whole thread actually

>>7750244
>giving a low IQ retard advice
Don't think so. Waste if time for the both of us

All of his work ha very noticeable proportional problems in the limbs and poor sense of foreshortening and perspective. This is impressive for a first year student but it’s gonna take wayyyy more drawings than that to graduate into actually design and invent professional level figure illustrations.

>>7750744
Mogs me

>>7750667
Yes

>>7750643
Have you tried reading Loomis?

>>7750587
and that’s why’s you’re ngmi

>>7750744
>3 year old can already make SOUL better than me
its unironically so over bros

>>7750660
why is his cigarette so fucking small

>>7750744
mogs me

>>7749797
Love the face on top right and bottom right

>>7748397
Thanks for the ref, anon.
>>7750744
This is really good, and it doesn't surprise me. You'd be stunned if you saw how creative a few kids are. In a classroom of 25-28, this would be roughly one or two, though. I used to teach a lot of elementary school kids back when I studied. From what I've seen in my career, their parents are usually extremely supportive, which leads to a positive feedback loop.

>>7750787
Make American art education great again plz

>>7750667
Yes

>>7750207
I don't get it, but I assume it's just autistic schizo rambling.

Btw: good artists probably never received any sort if assistance. Just get a book or two and *see*.

da Vinci: "some see, some can be taught to see, some don't see"

some bullshit i drew for /co/

>>7750811
sick

>>7750791
I'm European, so that's gonna be a tough sell for me, to work as a teacher over there. My salary is low, but at least here I have free healthcare, automated taxes, better purchasing power to cost of living, and not to mention roughly 150 days of holidays. There's much more I could write, but that's the big points. I'll have to pass, sorry.

>>7750791
Make America great again*

>>7750772
BLOG

>>7750744
>Pluvium

>>7750744
>Pluvium
I used to be on their server and it is soul crushing to see the difference between wholesale talented artists with the time and support to invest into art and the permabeg hobbyists.
Bans nsfw and anime in the server because it is filled with very fucking talented children.
You would have kids complain about how school was boring, mum took away their roblox and then post a motherfucking oil painting.
I had to leave for my own sanity after being mogged left and right by children half my fucking age with insane talent who also had the time to draw and also because as a wagie permabeg I could barely complete a tenth of the work these guys did with their fucking eyes closed.

>>7750808
>da Vinci: "some see, some can be taught to see, some don't see"
Yeah, talent exists and some of us permabegs with no spatial awareness are megaturbofucked.
Several here who draw on and on but never get it "right" because they cant see.

>>7750843
They are obviously getting assisted dude lmao

>>7750845
you are such an annoying worthless retard
thankfully you will never be in the gene pool
i wish mods would do their job

this general is ruined because of one fucking retarded nigger who won't stop spamming talent copypasta

>>7750848
>>7750848
You're the one talking about talent and not helping newbies, you're the problem.

>>7750861
i have, just not in this post
im sick of seeing this dumb niggers posts
it makes others not want to give advice because every thread devolves into him retard sperging

>>7750863
>troonspacing

>>7750863
You talk about me, you ignore what I drew and mock me, and when I bully you, you blame me.

>>7750865
just fuck off faggot no one wants you here or your retarded talentsperging and no one will ever want to help you because you're a retard who will never improve

>>7750866
What's the point of your shitty thread then?

>>7750868
the general was a thousand times better before talentfagging retards ruined it with useless copypasta spam
people actually helped each other and it's the fault of you and retards like you that it's unusable now

>>7750866
I want to learn to draw, but you scumbags talk me out of it and say I can't.

>>7750869
Here and before me in 2024, others bullied and mocked Pawell and PBS, and other newcomers, don't blame me

anything but drawing :wilted_rose:

>>7750874
The scum here don't want others to draw >>7750866

If you are actually on the fucked up side of the spectrum (face blind, no spatial awareness) you need to find another way to draw that has nothing to do with what your eyes see, try tracing a 3D model or joining your local tism art club.

https://www.newscientist.com/gallery/drawing-autism/

Dont worry about being /beg/ or not whats truly important is to have fun, just look at /draw/ they all beg as fuck

>>7750880
>joining your local tism art club
Literally the worst possible thing you could do unless you want to remain a permabeg trapped in a hugbox.

>>7750880
Unironically, there is a very good correlation between face processing skills and the ability to draw... Which makes sense if you were to, say, draw a face, but up to a point. The determining factor could be more closely linked to the ability to store long term memories, like remembering how muscle groups interact. A lot of artists develop good memories through practice and repetition, but it's notable that certain people able to easily acquire and store long term memories (the ability to recall elements necessary to a given context correctly) do seem to have a greater advantage when learning to draw. There's a bunch of studies that have this conclusion, but it's not yet too definitive as to say, this is the reason why. The ability to draw will adjust according to how you're able to remember different elements, holistically (as a whole) or by features (singular elements like noses, eyes, etc.). There hasn't been any longitudinal studies on this yet, as it's quite a niche idea.
Talent is basically sort of bullshit, it's more likely the ability to store memories, and how well the artist is able to adjust their holistical perception to their feature mode observational skills and back, but it's not really conclusive.

>>7750900
then why are some artists good at drawing faces and nothing else

>>7750901
>A lot of artists develop good memories through practice and repetition
It's a bit like me repeating one sentence over and over. At a certain point, you'll be able to tell it backwards from memory.

>>7750900
>Talent is basically sort of bullshit, it's more likely the ability to [insert intrinsic untrainable skill here]
Interesting...

>>7750913
Unless you're below 80 in IQ, most creative skills can be acquired through perseverance, but yes, your assessment sort of correct, though a little too simplistic. If I tell you "this is how the deltoid connects to the arm," would you then instantly know this by seeing it, or do you have to repeatedly draw it a few times to get it memorized. What about a different orientation and perspective? That's why training shapes and forms is more important than drawing your hip OC #325 and not improving.
The ability to learn, storing memories, is correlated to learning anything. Nevertheless, you can't teach a person with severe mental retardation how to draw the abdominal muscles from recollection. It's hard enough for people below 80 to recall how to spell out "exclusionary" out loud without having to actively recall the placement of letters to phonetics.

>>7750875
>bweeh bweeh the scum mock me
Kill yourself. Take a gun a shot your head

Schizo sketch

woo

>>7750948
I missed you Rax

>>7750950
aww

>>7750999
MOGS ME

>>7750999
Type shit you could actually see in a modern exhibition

Should i DM permabegschizo asking him to come back?

how do massive twitter and instagram artists not get tired of copying pinterest references and turning them into anime characters and shit

>>7751005
Literally who fucking cares about that nigga.

>>7751007
):

>>7751007
He's the Pawell of our generation

enjoying speed drawing

>>7751005
yes

>>7751010
zoomers literally have nothing going on for them huh

Both this thread, you, and the board would greatly benefit if people actually used the other generals whenever appropriate.

Not sure if the jannies decided this place would be a containment zone, because it is horrible to use as it is, and only 10% of it is really on topic.

>>7751041
>Both this thread, you, and the board would greatly benefit if people actually used the other generals whenever appropriate.

Site is dead, board is dead, most posters are beg with some retards in mid /int/ anyways, the other generals are borderline larps

>>7751044
But you will still shit here 24/7

>>7751041
A lot of the generals have too much overlap. Why does /asg/ even exist when /beg/ can serve the same purpose? What the fuck is /alt/ when 80% of the art is just anime? /dad/ should be nuked or sent to /soc/ since it's just a social club. Only /lsg/ has a claim at being its own general since that's the designated dumping ground for loli porn. /ic/ could be tidily consolidated into two or three generals given how slow the board is.

henlo

>>7751054
He cute
Butter should read upside down doe

>>7751055
OH DAMN ITS TRUE

my autism has failed me

>>7751054
doge

Hey,
What's is the general consensus on drawabox ?
I can't find anything on it in the sticky threads.

i'm starting to hate the way I paint eyes, but whenever I try something different it looks so ass

>>7751061
why he so adam driver cats coded <33333

>>7751064
nigga just google youtube tutorial

>>7751064
even for anime and stylized stuff, you need to portray the convex form of the eyes

also proportions of the eyes, you can be more free with stylized stuff, but needs to be in moderation

>>7751064
>>7751075
.

>>7751064
learning that they're bowl shaped and thus that the light part of the eye is actually opposite to the light source was useful. also you should draw limbal rings, that is, the black ring around the iris, usually makes it look better.

How can I improve? Will grinding trees make me better?

>>7751084
Learn how to computer
Your tree looks flat
If a branch is emerging from the front then why the fuck its going to the left side , literal 2D brainlet
>date
>pencils used
nah its over

>>7751084
tree branches can be very abstract

some good things to do are to fade the receding branches for depth, you also need to be aware of overlaps and where the branch ends

>>7751048
Aggregating everything into a single general is not really a good thing. Regardless /beg/ is used too much if anything, as people (often /int/s, even) will just come here and post doodles, gossip, or bait (in a fucking art board).

>>7751109
The social shit was better than the talentfaggotry, I'd take it back

>>7751114
stop now, before the turd is fully polished

>>7751114
Don't listen to the nodraw and continue, it looks good.

>>7751109
>as people (often /int/s, even) will just come here and post doodles
well yeah, its /beg/ and /int/ no? I never render or do lineart because it's a gigantic waste of time, i just want to grind and git gud.
>>7751114
Looks good but the upper arm on the right is weird i think it should be smaller, too much ass... reduce the hips....or else....

>>7751119
can you redline it?

>>7751122
I already had to some transformation tool shenanigans because I fucked up the gesture so I'm not even offended
I will just move on to the next one

>>7751126
Who cares if you screwed up, that's expected. You should fnish your works.

>>7751124
Full pieces will get you better crits, since they fully represent your current skill, but nothing wrong with getting crits on unfinished stuff. The line was for people who are clearly not /beg/, and /beg/s who will post endless pages of poorly drawn circles.

>>7750835
> aryan
>realism GOD
>1 year talent CHAD
>living comfy life and purpose is to give back to others
Don’t tell me you have a big cock too, my unworthy mongrel brain couldnt fathom a man so inexplicably based…
E-uro sensei sama…I kneel…

>>7748395 (OP)
Beginning to draw at 27 as I need a new hobby and vidya aint doing it for me anymore.
Any advice?

>>7751126
IRELAND

>>7751148
>changed nothing but add useless green lines and thighs
uwot

Actually, joining the local art club will get you easy af access to the sophisticated art hoes you dream about and who'd ignore your existance everywhere else, you have to be jacked and not a complete beg tho, lol

>>7751149
i used the green line to put the arms/shoulders where they belong though, also the chin

>>7751152
B-based…

>>7751154
>Grok turn this piece into the most generic slop garbage of all time

>>7751153
you did no such thing

>>7751160
i did though, this is the original, her left arm is literally broken

>>7751152
No, you don't need to be jacked, I've been auschwitzmaxxing all my life. Being skilled helps though, a bit.

>>7751152
>art hoes
Fatties and uglies

>>7751146
Pick a favorite artist to set as your goal, and try to draw like them. Likely the fastest improving method there is.
>i want to be unique
Uniqueness will naturally come. If your goal is just to have fun you can disregard this advice and do whatever.

>>7751170
I cum tribute deersis nightly.

>>7751167
maybe you should draw a bit more before redlining

I'm getting mogged by PBS and even howie!! where did it all go so wrong....

>>7751176
why

>>7751173
For fun I plan to draw anime style. More specifically hentai artist turned mangaka mask guchimoto’s styl because it looks like a good mix of simplicity and complexity if that makes sense but it will be a while before I reach that level.
I’ll admit a friend showed me pewdiepie’s drawing videos when I talked about picking up drawing and I saw a thread where someone allegedly got pretty good in a month here.
So I do feel hopeful for now as I know it will be a painful slog starting out.

>>7751181
Nah I’m good and if you can’t see the arms are broken you might as well stop posting recommendations lol . The drawing is fine it just needs better limb placing. the boobs were ok, dude been grinding them so no idea why the other guy modified them into 2d , dumbest shit I’ve ever seen, I also realized that the head is floating after placing the chin. Liquify the sheboon hips if it’s bothers you that much

>>7751176
I bet she a fatty tho

>>7751192
all i hear is cope. you cant redline for shit and dont know anatomy. just fold already

>>7751193
She has a cutely freckled face, high cheeks, rape victim blue eyes like Madeleine, the most mouthwatering wide hips I have seen on a ethot and chewable cankles.
She is so gorgeous that I get all fucked up inside just remembering her face.
I would post a pic of her but I dont want to get banned for doxxing.
Deersis if you are reading this please show me your hips in anything other than your autism dresses and set up a throne.

>>7751196
>chewable cankles.
gets me every time

>>7751145
Honestly, I'm very fortunate. Not a day goes by where I don't thank the universe for my circumstances. I'm not rich, but I've got my wife, my pets, and plenty of time for my hobbies like drawing. I'm no sensai, I'm just me.
As for my penis, it's about as thick as my wife's wrist, roughly a smidge over 6 inches in freedom units. I wish it was a little longer, but what man wouldn't?

>>7751196
post ur @ budda and ill give u

>>7751176
me and you both brother

>>7749120
Because this one place is used like a chatroom.

>>7751176
>>7751196
retire already boomer

>>7751210
he won't ever post his @ if he truly wanted to hit me up he'd post @

>>7751212
You're gonna block him!
mean mean mean

>>7751213
i wouldn't block him actually im a sport

>>7750922
Advice from a scumbag who doesn't help at all

>>7751196
Normiescum

>>7751212
Set up a throne so I can gift you shit anonymously.
>>7751215
No way. I love seeing your face too much to risk not seeing you again.
Now please show me your rape-inducing hips.

>>7751223
You suck at drawing lol

>>7751232
>>7751232
Because you don't give advice, you just bully and get angry and blame me when I bully and insult you.

>>7751236
No advice on earth can help retards
Quit >:)

>>7751239
The most interesting thing is that I remember how some people apologized to Pavel. Apparently, these people had empathy, but today's nits don't have it. You yourself show your rottenness.

almost 30 posts and not one person has posted any of their art

>>7751248
Dogs like to bark at me and insult me

>>7751248
Including (You) :>)

>>7751244
Pawell was drawing.

>>7750835
>but at least here I have free healthcare
huge cope.
Tried getting an appointment?

>>7751257
I also drew, and you simply ignored the nastiness or laughed, after which you received insults from me and were offended.

>>7751261
Indeed I have, many times. At most, it was 4 days. See, England isn't europe. I live in a developed country where healthcare is both free, efficient and one of the best in the world.

>>7751248
heres one i did years ago. i essentially did 2 paintings when i started and then i have done no art at all until this month, this time im actually sticking to it

>>7751263
I'll keep laughing

oh wtf that's a drawing of me

Any critiques / advice / anyone willing to do a redline?

Hello everyone how are you doing?
I got this drawing here, any critic?
Also, i wanted to know how you draw the stripes on the shoulder there. I just can’t visualize it!
Thanks in adavance for the help

>>7751283
>>7751300
sex

>>7751323
i like the mushroom enjoying the view from back there

Tracing over my notebook scribbles, trying to get comfortable using the tablet.

I just made a Pixiv and it's so damn weird and unintuitive to use. How do you guys do it? I think I'm too old for this shit.

>>7751244
>>7751236
>>7751223
i imagine you like this

>>7751344
another sketch of this character

Sketches for today

Is there no other way of getting likeness in sketches other than autistically measuring angles and proportions? Would love to be able to capture it quickly, but it seems impossible for dumb people like me

a couple of before bath drawings, heavily hampered by a migraine coming on

>>7751361
I'm nowhere near as good as you are, but the way I do for stuff like that is trying to get the eyes right and other things flow from that
or just sort of throw up an exceedingly fast draft and then compare it to the reference, fix the most glaring differences, look again, fix the next most glaring differences, and so on until I either feel like I'm not making progress or I'm satisfied that I've approximated it as best I can

>>7751367
and the second of two, this one an exceedingly rushed study of some nagano characters
neither character took more than three minutes to get down, as the bath was filled my headache getting progressively worse I just shat on the page and called it a day
thankfully not creepy like the attempt before

studying animals portraits for my furry shits

he a good boy

*cries*

>>7751376
giraffe?

>>7751195
I know anatomy dont worry about it. Dont you have some AI to prompt so you can troll the deadboard and the dead hobby?

Hey dont forget to color your garbage for epic likes

>>7751382
Blocking out a hand and then redlining my mistakes to try and train accuracy. Today's exercise did not go well as you can see

>>7751351
Pixiv is dead and full of westerners/AI garbage. X is where you post your garbage, Instagram for your "e-portfolio" and Tiktok for your epic brainrot videos.

>>7751146
Dont. Your generation is a fucking failure.

I feel sleepy.
Maybe I should stop and draw arms and hands instead, or maybe adding breasts? Idk. I want to hug something.

>>7751394
is 31 almost 32 the right generation to not be a failure

>>7751376
Hands are hard, I was just doing a study following a 3D model thinking they wouldn't be so bad and one hand alone took me 40 minutes or so, with extreme zooming in. Previously I tried some scribbles thinking to just paint it over later but it was annoying to look at lol.