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Anonymous No.7751234 >>7751250 >>7751256 >>7751326 >>7751774 >>7752689 >>7752728 >>7752859 >>7752871 >>7752893 >>7752898 >>7752906 >>7752908 >>7752918 >>7752947 >>7752952 >>7753850 >>7753924
Is this true /ic/
Anonymous No.7751237 >>7752820
none of those cartoons air on TV anymore except teen titans go. A better sampling would be going through the Netflix library for modern shows


except this isn't something people like you want to do. it's easier to bait this way.
Anonymous No.7751238 >>7751243
Most of you are probably going to kill yourselves within the next 5 years. I strongly believe this.
Anonymous No.7751243 >>7751246
>>7751238
I strongly believe you suck cocks.
Anonymous No.7751246 >>7751255
>>7751243
5 years, tick-tock, tick-tock.
Anonymous No.7751250
>>7751234 (OP)
Nice file name, Pedro.
Anonymous No.7751255 >>7751259
>>7751246

5 years I'll be in the industry while you'll still be here trolling
Anonymous No.7751256
>>7751234 (OP)
>left
begs & ints
>right
permabegs
Anonymous No.7751259 >>7751273
>>7751255
So you're going to be a comedian? A noble pivot but that just gives me more confidence in my prediction.
Anonymous No.7751273 >>7751277
>>7751259

I think you're projecting (again). You fear that I'll make it..no, you know I can make it and make it so much that I'm internet famous. Don't worry, I'll still be here 5 years later.
Anonymous No.7751277 >>7751282
>>7751273
You are definitely funny as a comedian.
Anonymous No.7751282
>>7751277

Maybe in another dimension I am, but in this one I will be what you don't want coming to pass.
Anonymous No.7751290 >>7751293 >>7751330
Daria's art style death mogs every single one of those gook shit puke characters on the left
Anonymous No.7751293
>>7751290
op just has shit taste and grabbed anything his algoyritm showed him on pinterest
Anonymous No.7751295 >>7751301 >>7751303 >>7751322 >>7752940
Anonymous No.7751301
>>7751295
too true!
Anonymous No.7751303 >>7751306
>>7751295
I like the right
Anonymous No.7751306 >>7751317
>>7751303
that's because you have fetal alcohol syndrome and can related to her
Anonymous No.7751317
>>7751306
I think she and I were meant to find happiness together. I hope you, too, can find happiness.
Anonymous No.7751322
>>7751295
>posts sargent
we are not talking about classical art, don't be silly
Anonymous No.7751326 >>7751346
>>7751234 (OP)
1990 US:
-Story: Prince defeats monster and save princess.
-Graphics: Average.
2025 US:
-Story: Transwoman princess defeat white nazi and marries black lesbian.
-Graphics: Ugliest shit you ever seen.
Anonymous No.7751330
>>7751290
Bait used to be believable
Anonymous No.7751346
>>7751326
>Transwoman princess defeat white nazi and marries black lesbian.
Uhm kino alert
Anonymous No.7751774 >>7751793 >>7751819 >>7752825
>>7751234 (OP)
all of the anime trash looks like generated garbage
coincidence?
i think not
Anonymous No.7751793 >>7751806 >>7751830
>>7751774
Pretty much, i don't care about "quality", gacha trash artists use AI for their art... hell pretty much 99% of gacha fanart is AI, traced AI or had AI involvement in a way or another so right wins and its not even fucking close.

Truth Hurts.
Anonymous No.7751806 >>7751807
>>7751793
99% gacha of artists are not newcomers from the past 3 years, explain
Anonymous No.7751807 >>7751826
>>7751806
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/11uj17v/nikke_using_aigenerated_images_stablediffusion/

Alternatively use your eyes.
Anonymous No.7751816
semites are afroasiatic and not western though
Anonymous No.7751819
>>7751774
dont forget the AI is trained on this stuff they aint putting western art into it
Anonymous No.7751826
>>7751807
Nikke is a notorious outlier what with their most recent characters looking straight up like BA characters run through img2img. Doesn't invalidate that for the time being most other gacha are managed by human artists.
You sound like a bumhurt /co/fag.
Anonymous No.7751830
>>7751793
You need to see the silver lining at the end of the hallway. The gacha industry will slowly but surely move away from its gacha roots and into more standalone gaming which means less and less need for these companies to keep churning out design after design for new characters which means more emphasis on a few characters and their lore which means more value for real human art for these characters in these games.

AI is a symptom and the remedy is right around the corner without you having to do a thing.
Anonymous No.7752689
>>7751234 (OP)
Big time. Distinct and recognizable on the right vs cookie cutter tranny coded on the left
Anonymous No.7752728
>>7751234 (OP)
>Left:All Illustrations
>Right:All Animation Stills
This is such retarded bait.
And what's even the question? True? What's True?
Anonymous No.7752820
>>7751237
>A better sampling would be going through the Netflix library for modern shows
Netflix labels their cartoons as anime regardless if they're inspired by anime like Castlevania and Dota or not like Arcane.
The term "anime" is meaningless now, specially when most of it is outsourced to animation studios in other countries, and foreign freelancers on Twitter, including important stuff like Key Animation.
Anonymous No.7752825 >>7759948
>>7751774
>all of the anime trash looks like generated garbage
>coincidence?
You're right, no one in their right mind would train AI art on westoid garbage art, the model would only output shit like picrel.
Anonymous No.7752859
>>7751234 (OP)
The world would in a better place if all browns and blacks perished
Anonymous No.7752871
>>7751234 (OP)
the result of years of Western woke progressivism ruined the industry, son
Anonymous No.7752893
>>7751234 (OP)
Left = Souless Right = SOVL.
Anonymous No.7752898 >>7752917 >>7753709
>>7751234 (OP)
Wrong pic, OP.
Anonymous No.7752906
>>7751234 (OP)
Anonymous No.7752908
>>7751234 (OP)
Not is 4chang, is 4chan
Anonymous No.7752917
>>7752898
the trvke that killed tranime
Anonymous No.7752918
>>7751234 (OP)
>left is literally the same anime girl with different hair and copy paste personality selected from 5 tropes
>this is somehow superior
Anonymous No.7752940 >>7752957
>>7751295
soulless vs soul
Anonymous No.7752947 >>7753272
>>7751234 (OP)
Most comic book art looks like pic related to me

Just add a thick red lipstick for the females
Anonymous No.7752952 >>7753022 >>7753272 >>7753487 >>7753709 >>7754640 >>7754648
>>7751234 (OP)
It's not about anime vs cartoon, but old vs new.
Just look at anime & cartoons from the 80s and 90s then compare them with modern moe slop and CalArts bullshit.
Even the 00s were still decent, despite the fact that cartoons back then had anime influence, they're still miles better than their modern versions, like Ben 10 & Teen Titans.
Anonymous No.7752957 >>7753000
>>7752940
>Sargent
>Soulless
Abrovink !YdIqk5HtkU No.7753000 >>7753263
>>7752957
You got to remember that with autism the ability to detect emotion on a subjects face is quite tricky. Here's where the beauty if manga comes in. If you overexaggerate everything even the most servere cases of tism are able to pick up some emotion.

I have this fully fleshed out theory on how anime and autism go hand in hand because it's the only medium where the autist is able to follow along with the changing emotions of the characters... Oh and that forever online people that never touched a woman make her into a symbol where the female features just keep on getting more and more extreme, eyes tits etc. Since they never actually got close enough to a woman in a sexual manner, sexuality and women is to them a purely visual thing.... yeah I'll share my essay one day.
Anonymous No.7753022
>>7752952
This is the actual truth, also anime is still inspired mostly by Western artists and very rarely the other way around so the shittier the West gets the shittier Japan gets. Most Japanese artists (especially in shonen) view Western stuff like Disney and Marvel the same way weebs look at anything made in Japan.
Anonymous No.7753263
>>7753000
I would seriously read your essay lol
Anonymous No.7753272 >>7753465
>>7752947
>Brings up comic book art
>There isn't a single comic book image in OP's pic
?

>>7752952
Careful now, you'll summon that one retard who spams that irrelevant image, that quotes some random japanese animator says people who notice similarities in different 'anime' art have "low cognitive resolution"... whatever that means...
Anonymous No.7753465
>>7753272
>Careful now, you'll summon that one retard who spams that irrelevant image, that quotes some random japanese animator says people who notice similarities in different 'anime' art have "low cognitive resolution"... whatever that means...

Jannies should simply ban that autistic bitch
Anonymous No.7753487
>>7752952
>Even the 00s were still decent
because some of 00s is technically produced in the late 90s and by the 2000s it was all experimental but plagued with really bad CGI to which till this day Japan still sucks at CGI and still puts eyesore CGI in anime
Anonymous No.7753709 >>7753718 >>7753745 >>7753933
>>7752952
Classic Disney & Pixar movies have great character design but their modern characters are just a blob with a bean mouth. All the great western designs in this pic >>7752898 are old and at least half are not designed aka simplified for animation, multiple frames per second.
Anonymous No.7753718 >>7753757 >>7753903
>>7753709
>but their modern characters are just a blob with a bean mouth.
It drives me insane that there are still animation industry cock sucking shills who act as if there isn't any homogenisation in the artistic styles of the animation industry, or try to play it off as something that always happened ("L-l-l-look at hannah barbarah!" - as if there isn't any difference between a single studio having a style and the entire industry having the same fucking style), or even more annoying; pretend that we HAVE to have the bean mouth, because animation has to be simplified (as if other art styles are somehow that much more costly, or there aren't other equally efficient styles).

But what's the defence for pixar? Their films are very high budget, what are they cost cutting with the shitty bean mouth 3D models?
Even the noses are all similar little balls, where as they previously had variety, like Boo (?) having a nose bride.

>at least half are not designed aka simplified for animation, multiple frames per second.
To be fair, OP's pic has a bunch of eastern illustrations up against animation stills, so it's not like either side is doing a truly reasonable comparison.
Anonymous No.7753745
>>7753709
grubhub style
Anonymous No.7753757 >>7753903
>>7753718
My bro the reason is they literally can't draw well or develop any kind of complex but still animation friendly style like the Japanese can.
Anonymous No.7753763
Is embarrassing Code Lyoko from the early 2000s still death mogs any CG anime Japan puts out today.
Anonymous No.7753850
>>7751234 (OP)
All I see in your image is generic trash to entertain the wageslaving masses.
Anonymous No.7753903 >>7753909
>>7753718
>pretend that we HAVE to have the bean mouth, because animation has to be simplified (as if other art styles are somehow that much more costly, or there aren't other equally efficient styles).
Animation has to be simplified, at least 2d hand drawn animation, there's a reason why Japanese animators are trying to adapt the Berserk manga into 3D anime over and over again. You're right about the equally efficient style part tho.
>>7753757
>they literally can't draw well or develop any kind of complex but still animation friendly style like the Japanese can.
That's false, plenty of non Japanese animators, including Europeans, Americans and Latinos/as, work in the anime industry now and they draw anime on-model just fine, most pro animators can draw in any art style, including anime.
Western character designers can design "complex but animation friendly" just fine like picrel, it's inspired by Japanese art but it's created by an American woman.
Anonymous No.7753909 >>7753956 >>7753956
>>7753903
>work in the anime industry now
with Japanese animators designing the characters and correcting their drawings.

>complex
maybe by western standards, it's a simplified jugaad tier approach to anime they have to do because they can't do Japanese anime.
Anonymous No.7753918
You don't know anything, useless, you don't even draw, you fat, shitty otaku faggot.
Anonymous No.7753924
>>7751234 (OP)
what a weird selection on both sides, who is this image meant to bait?
Anonymous No.7753933
>>7753709
Its because having a clear defined art style for a movie gives power to the artists in the relationship between corporate suits and creators. The people with the money don't want their entire business to rely on a few people with the skills to draw their IP, they want to make it "universal" so any indian can theoretically make a sequel of the same quality.

The idea that art such as movies and cartoons are good because they are made by talented artists goes AGAINST their goals. AI is doing a lot to destroy this too, by the way.

There aren't even any talented artists with original styles anymore that get known for their work. Thats why people like the ghibli AI slop, its like a "oh yeah, remember when there used to be unique styles for each movie?". Even mainstream manga is fucking generic now. Dandadan has great art and a unique style but I feel its going to be the last one.
Anonymous No.7753956 >>7754021
>>7753909
>with Japanese animators designing the characters and correcting their drawings.
Such a bad faith take, they literally do the same to the majority of Japanese animators, but you know that, don't you?
You aren't a dumb weeb, you clearly know a bit about your favorite industry.
>>7753909
>maybe by western standards, it's a simplified jugaad tier approach to anime they have to do because they can't do Japanese anime.
Like your average isekai is half as complex, another cope by the weeb-kun.
Anonymous No.7754021 >>7754373
>>7753956
cope & sneed. they are still Japanese so the point stands. gaijin and lower skilled Japanese have their work corrected by higher skilled Japanese that have all the power when it comes to designing and defining the look of anime. no amount of freelancing jeets dragging down the overall quality with their subpar inking work will change these cold hard facts.
>implying genre has anything to do with character designer skill.
cope & sneed. japanese anime character designers are more skilled than anything you can find in the west. your cope isn't going to make their skill lower and your skill higher.

debunked your stale takes. anything else?
Anonymous No.7754373 >>7754410
>>7754021
Are you a very stupid weeb or just a really stupid jeet(No difference between the two).
Anonymous No.7754410 >>7754447
>>7754373
>can't refute my logic so he has to crash out and call me names

more and more westerners ARE going to learn anime the legit way because we respect Japanese art, and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
Anonymous No.7754447 >>7754453
>>7754410
Don't need to refute anything. The truth is right in front of you. But you'll keep denying because you think it makes you more Japanese. Weebs are sad creatures.
Anonymous No.7754453 >>7754465
>>7754447
cope & sneed. japanese anime character designers are more skilled than anything you can find in the west. your cope isn't going to make their skill lower and your skill higher.
Anonymous No.7754465 >>7754475 >>7754479
>>7754453
>japanese anime character designers are more skilled than anything you can find in the west.
Yes, they've mastered the use of the ctrl+c and ctrl+v commands.
Anonymous No.7754475 >>7754480
>>7754465
I laugh every time some troll posts this image not knowing one of the characters is an intentional parody of Kirito and another character changes his hair to white half the damn show to hide his identity. Needless to say, how is self insert kun any different from Eroge faceless kun MC? They serve a purpose.
Anonymous No.7754479 >>7754483 >>7754545
>>7754465
Anonymous No.7754480 >>7754524
>>7754475
Westoids are buck broken by and obsessed with quirkiness and don't understand the purpose of having established tropes in literature and art.
Anonymous No.7754483 >>7754506 >>7755065
Anons and Jannies, the autistic nigger faggot is back:

>>7754479
Anonymous No.7754506 >>7754510
>>7754483
is he wrong?
Anonymous No.7754510 >>7754512
>>7754506
Yes.
It's not low "cognitive resolution", whatever the fuck that is, it's pattern recognition.
Anonymous No.7754512 >>7754517
>>7754510
Isekai slop of the late 2010s didn't invent ctrl+c/ctrl+v "pattern" or whatever argument you've made. The whole point is to turn off your brain and be the character in a world where you have a growing harem (assuming you're asian anyway). It predates to dating sims.
Anonymous No.7754517 >>7754524 >>7754545
>>7754512
>Isekai slop of the late 2010s didn't invent ctrl+c/ctrl+v "pattern" or whatever argument you've made.
Right, because I was never making a point about "isekai slop".
I was talking about how great the Japanese character designs are! They're just so consistent!
Anonymous No.7754524 >>7754532
>>7754480
Then let the hypocritical weebs shut up and accept tropes of the West
>>7754517
This is the same term, you stupid beast, protecting anime slop
Anonymous No.7754532
>>7754524
>protecting anime slop
Oh, was I?
Anonymous No.7754545 >>7754553 >>7754564
>>7754517
In your very gif you see SD characters such as the cat mascot that transcends other games from other companies and the Chibi character, is that not different style? There is also a playful design trope using big ribbons, big hats and buttons. Using a popular artist from that era that illustrated for Da Capo series would make people try other Circus games instead of using a random new artist.

So >>7754479 is right, you have low cognitive resolution.
Anonymous No.7754553 >>7754557 >>7754561
>>7754545
>In your very gif you see SD characters such as the cat mascot that transcends other games from other companies and the Chibi character, is that not different style?
>There is also a playful design trope using big ribbons, big hats and buttons.
And I'm totally agreeing with you! Having the same template and just changing hair, eye colours, and other superfluous things is the best character design method! Work smarter, not harder!
Anyway, let's talk about my favourite anime character, I forget her name, but she's in my picrel, she's the black haired school girl character, and she has a lock of hair sitting over her forehead. Such unique character design!
Anonymous No.7754557 >>7754559
>>7754553
there is no saving your blindness
Anonymous No.7754559
>>7754557
Anon, were you not able to see my waifu in that image? It might be your cognitive resolution, try buying a better monitor.
Anonymous No.7754561 >>7754562
>>7754553
Anonymous No.7754562
>>7754561
Anonymous No.7754564 >>7754585
>>7754545
low cognitive resolution bros can't pick up on any subtlety at all in Japanese artstyles.

it really is an art related mental illness that prevents you from seeing beyond the most abstract unifying principles and makes you ignore all detail.
the more based individuals among us know by name the character designers of all of those works and know what makes their style unique, but it requires a non zero CR level.
Anonymous No.7754585 >>7754636
>>7754564
>low cognitive resolution bros can't pick up on any subtlety at all in Japanese artstyles.
If people are going to complain about the beanmouth style such as picrel, despite its obvious differences between each design, then of course they're also going to complain about anime, despite its 'subtle' differences.
So what is it? Are the low Cognitive Resolution Bros in the right to note that Anime can be quite similar looking, or are we all in the wrong to say there's any similarity in the bean mouth style?
Anonymous No.7754636 >>7754695
>>7754585
calarts is cringe not because it's the same but because it's dumbed down on purpose to neuter artistic power, it can't convey any refined aesthetic and takes a low amount of artistic skill to draw. anime character designers are creating art that isn't easy to replicate without having equivalent skill.

the low cr bros are effectively blind when it comes to anime, they can't see any details that make a certain character designer's style have its identity that's recognizable, anything beyond the most abstract surface level things is invisible to them.
Anonymous No.7754639
How do we finally solve the low cognitive resolution problem plaguing the west?
Make the West Artistic Again.
Anonymous No.7754640 >>7754649
>>7752952
>It's not about anime vs cartoon, but old vs new.
Old designs were aimed at straight men and modern designs are aimed at straight women, POC and LGBTQ+
Anonymous No.7754648 >>7754651
>>7752952
>Just look at anime from the 80s and 90s then compare them with modern moe slop
Anonymous No.7754649
>>7754640
>modern designs are aimed at straight women
The best example of this in anime is Trigun.
The old anime character designs are badass, it's admired by straight men while the new anime's "K-pop demon hunters" tier slop aimed at straight women.
Anonymous No.7754651 >>7754652 >>7754653
>>7754648
Modern anime is gay and you're a troon.
Anonymous No.7754652
>>7754651

It being gay (it's not) is an auto gatekeep.
Anonymous No.7754653
>>7754651
Anonymous No.7754695 >>7754698
>>7754636
>calarts is cringe not because blah blah blah
The main complaint people have about the bean mouth shit is that it was overused and looked the same. Ignoring that to make you're point makes you look like a dishonest hack.
Anonymous No.7754698 >>7754736
>>7754695
I don't care what westoids complain about, I'm going to debunk it logically, not by appeal to consensus fallacy.
Anonymous No.7754736 >>7754744
>>7754698
>I don't care what westoids complain about
>not by appeal to consensus fallacy.
If you didn't care about the general populations consensus on things, you wouldn't be spamming an image constantly trying to address the general population's opinion that Anime looks the same. So no, you're not so big brained that you see the 'real' problem that others don't see with the CalArts style, and thus don't need to address the main issue.
Just admit that you didn't have a good response, it's all good.
Anonymous No.7754744
>>7754736
Consensus doesn't determine truth lil bro. It's irrelevant when debating.
Anyone with positive CR sees the problem with calarts being a crippled style, you can discuss other aspects of why it's garbage too but my refutation is arguably the strongest one and you will never address it in good faith because you are bad at debates and have an agenda to push.
Anonymous No.7755065
>>7754483
I don't know how or why lowres-kun was allowed to ruin anime discussion on a dead board but congrats, he did it and you all enabled the faggot
Anonymous No.7759948
>>7752825
You will never be Japanese.