Thread 7760986

>>7760986 (OP)
>the beautiful Specials, who possess magical and wondrous abilities
>and the dumb Poo People, who can't do anything

>>7760986 (OP)
hxh is unmatched.

>>7761144
Pretty much this. This is most of the fantasy genre.

>>7761166
I got past the point where the shota mc and his edgy bishonen shota rival were running through a field vs a gay clown the show wanted to portray as intimidating, then they had to hunt a pig for a special dinner or else they would never become super great or some shit, and I stopped watching.

>>7761230
The thing with Togashi, it always starts out rough but once he puts the pieces on the board and tells you the rules the game plays out beautifully.


You miss out on a lot, anon

>>7761246
That's fine.

>>7761230
> giving up on the jrpg game when they are still rescuing cats
youre missing the greatest (and still ongoing) story since the Illiad

>>7761443
also worth pointing out that the 2011 adaptation is just plain ugly, the parts 1999 were able to animate are far superior.

>>7761449
2011 Adaptation not worth watching?

>>7761443
That is a shitty jrpg, then. Just like nu god of war is a shitty action game. What about a horror movie that lacks atmosphere and tension in the first act. A death metal album that is 1/3 synth 1/3 pink floyd worship (looking at you, Blood aincantation). A poem that begins by fucking up it's meter. A plate of food where your first bite is soggy and with a bit of off seafood. Or a painting that always draws the eye first to a bit of crap shape design and garish colour.
All that is poor craftsmanship. At the very best, it's a good work compromised by it's beginning. At worst, it ruins the whole thing.
I swear, every HXH fag is the same. Sing the show's high praises, never giving reason why past X or Y aspect being "great". Then they don't understand why everyone else finds them to be annoying pseuds.

>>7761473
Demonslayer is probably more your speed.

> I swear, every HXH fag is the same.
and every hxh hater hasn't even watched the show.

which is the more kino adaption manga wise? I've heard some really good things about the manga.

>>7761482
Demon slayer is like a 6-6.5/10 The beginning Hunter Ecks Hunter has been a 4 at best. And of course, at the end of the day there is no such thing as genuinely great battle shonen. Ironically, Yu Yu Hakusho, often comared to HXH, was more compelling at the beginning and got worse as it neared the tournament arc, veering into power level wankery. What I'm saying is, swimming through shit to get to fresh water is retarded, l and contaminates the fresh spring, so it's no wonder why nobody else wants to watch further. But it says a lot about Hunter X Hunter fans that they find the beginning sufficiently high quality, automatically putting into question the high praise they give to later episodes.

>>7761449
It's not just the visual aspect, the tone and pace of the narrative/directing, makes it much more emotionally shallow.
In 99 you have a lot of detail, nuance and implications and becomes more immersive as a result. In 11 everything is rushed, generic, too sanitized and 'made obvious' and harder to connect with the characters and situations, it's more 'ADHD' for a lack of a better term.
>>7761457
I'd only watch it from the point the OVAs end, so the start of Chimera Ant arc, unless you want to read the manga.

>>7760986 (OP)
Yu yu hakusho ripped off Dragon Ball.
Hxh ripped off Jojo.

>>7761858
Low cognitive resolution post

>>7761246
Rules on the table?
>Oh they shot their Nen power?
>They're emission type, right?
>WRONG THEY'RE A FUCKING SPECIALIST AND IM NOT EXPLAINING WHY DUMB FUCK.
>..."OH MY NEN..." just kill me fucking now please.

I realise most Manga/Anime power systems fail, but HxH's is just overrated by people who don't actually understand it at all. I wouldn't doubt that Togashi himself got lost in the sauce with it.

Where can I learn about developing a power system in world-building and storytelling?
I have no experience with either, but want to start.

>>7761905
Why should I help you create a new successful franchise lol?

>>7761937
Understandable. It is a doggy dog world out there.
If it can placate your worries, I'm only a musician and would only use what I learn in my lyrics, so I'm not likely to be competition for you.

>>7761944
>>>/lit/writing
Arguably the best board on 4chan. Unlike nodraws on /ic/, they actually read and write. Quite a few published authors.

>>7761946
Yeah that's probably a mote fitting place, but still, if there's someone here with good advice I'm not going to be picky about it.

>>7761901
hxh's counter-intuitiveness may be interesting if conceptual. math is counter-intuitive too but this does not invalidate soundness. hxh's scenario itself is full of somewhat clever-ish tricks to be engaging almost like detective conan

>>7760986 (OP)
>thread is just fags talking about HxH
So much for /ic/ actually making action comics kek

>>7760986 (OP)
I really do wish there was a board for learning how to actually write and self-edit shit
>inb4 /lit/
Shitty meme board

>>7760986 (OP)
I really like Soul Eater and Fire Force's power system. It stands out and is creative compared to everything else put there.

>>7760986 (OP)
Mines fairly loose. People sort of gain power through I guess 'consuming' and subjugating 'spirits'. Like elemental/seasonal spirits or the spirits of a place or item.

It will in theory let me give a lot of characters a lot of powers and allow for different kinds of characters in my setting and stories.

I have done shit all with it so far other than as backstories for my oc's and important characters I haven't even drawn yet. fml.

>>7760986 (OP)
>What power systems are you guys a fan of
Hydroelectric dams, I guess? The cut a pretty cool image, like a giant fortress wall.
And if the dam ever breaks, you can surf on the sickest wave of your life, like in the cartoons.

Bump

>>7761857
I thought the Greed Island OVA was generally regarded as bad (never watched it). Are you saying it's better than the 2011 adaption?

>>7761457
I watched 2011 first and was hooked from start to finish. I think 1999 is overall better but 2011 is still worth a watch.

OH

>>7769846
Just compare the Bomber expressions in 2011 and the OVA. Greed Island is the polar opposite of the >>7761857 pic.

>>7760986 (OP)
>/ic/cels spending all their time drawing and none of it writing
ishygddt

>>7769846
It is worse quality than 99, but i still prefer it over 2011 because of the aforementioned directing/soundtrack related reasons (being more chill and less adhd) and because 2011 spoils the identity of the bomber with the opening from the start of the arc. The visuals of the GI OVA aren't terrible, and the presentation of the story matters more.
>generally regarded as bad
That's true because people copypaste their opinion from what's already popular, when 2011 premiered all the new fanbase assumed 99 was terrible and only after years of older fans promoting it some new fans dared to give it a try (some prefered it, others didn't), but almost no one defended the GI OVA because it's not as easy to defend as 99, but it's still decent enough, whereas 11 is a direct downgrade to the parts previously adapted.

>>7769866
I don't agree anon. The expresions in 2011 are cartoonish and one-dimensional to the point it feels like Jo Jo meme compilations.

>>7769866
GI OVA is still better imo, the coloring is just leagues better, also good soundtrack.

>>7760986 (OP)
The fuck do people even mean by "power systems"? Some sort in universe rules of magic?

>>7770077
Yeah you could just call it a magic system, but a power system is the autism chart that explains how abilities actually work source, limits, growth, etc. Could be magic, tech, biology, whatever, as long as it follows some made-up physics. A good one has consistent rules so fights and progress feel earned instead of random. It’s the foundation that keeps powers from being pure plot armor fanfic bullshit

>>7770102
desu i only care about powers feeling like part of the story rather than pulled out of nowhere

in my power system .44 magnum is the most powerful handgun cartridge in the world

>>7760986 (OP)
A thing I unintentionally always did with comics is that, on average, nobody's that great of a fighter, and accounting for some skills or aptitude it's all street-level and human in scale, and the fighting is pretty realistic. But in this context I also had one guy who's straight out of late stage shonen. Just that one guy and he's not the MC or anybody directly supporting the MC. He's just there to fuck shit up

>>7761473
I often think about this with Rozen Maiden which starts godawful, the characters have powers that are never brought up again, there's a bunch of meandering nonsense, and generally feels amateur. But then it establishes itself and gets great. I love Rozen Maiden. I know what you mean and I'm not saying every good manga is like that but many older manga often have shaky beginnings because it's just semi-amateur projects that got into serialization. the medium wasn't as codified back then, it was the price to pay for that bit of extra creativity instead of yet another dum isekai paint by numbers slop story with the same checklist of generic tropes