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Anonymous No.7764253 [Report] >>7764256 >>7764270 >>7764286 >>7764293 >>7764303 >>7764318 >>7764341 >>7764351 >>7764530 >>7764643 >>7764644 >>7764707 >>7764714 >>7764885 >>7765965 >>7766739 >>7768469 >>7769495 >>7770978 >>7773680 >>7773716 >>7776957 >>7782700
he is doing it again
back to the boxes

>he is stuck in a loop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvlBR5iYBv0
Anonymous No.7764256 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
he is not listening. he have no direction.
Anonymous No.7764270 [Report] >>7764292
>>7764253 (OP)
No Art workshop, drawing manual can fix Autism.

He will never be a good artist, but will always be a good customer, good consumer.
Anonymous No.7764271 [Report]
He should drop the Loomis crap and try something else.
Anonymous No.7764286 [Report] >>7764301
>>7764253 (OP)
Those shitty tattoos on her arm look like drawings by a five-year-old.
Anonymous No.7764292 [Report] >>7764892
>>7764270
but I have a hope for him.
He just need /ic/
Anonymous No.7764293 [Report] >>7764303
>>7764253 (OP)
poor observational skills, he needs to be forced to copy bargue plates strictly by a good instructor.
Anonymous No.7764301 [Report] >>7764306
>>7764286
still better than the right image
Anonymous No.7764303 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
>>7764293
It's crazy, like look at the brow line he drew that completely misses her eyebrows and he just... doesn't notice or give a shit. He's literally tracing over the reference and he can't even get it right. Hopeless.
Anonymous No.7764306 [Report]
>>7764301
Is the same shit.
Anonymous No.7764307 [Report]
how is he overlaying a construction and copying it wrong is beyond me. like, open your eyes, nigga
Anonymous No.7764311 [Report] >>7765959
I tried to replay to his comments but they gets removed idk why
Anonymous No.7764312 [Report]
he has symbol problem. he just never realized it unless we point it to him.
Anonymous No.7764318 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
he is completely ignored all the draw a box lesson
DUDE
Anonymous No.7764341 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
Today we once more gather around an abyss, and watch the man who blissfully jumped in smile from the bottom.
Anonymous No.7764351 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
Why wont this retard just hire a tutor.
Anonymous No.7764530 [Report] >>7764572 >>7764619 >>7764633
>>7764253 (OP)
This guy been drawing for 2 years and I'm a better artist despite drawing for just a few weeks, art talent is real.
Anonymous No.7764572 [Report]
>>7764530
>2 years
I calculated his total hours to be only around 200-300 hours if I remember correctly.
Anonymous No.7764619 [Report] >>7764912
>>7764530
not being a retard isn't a talent
Anonymous No.7764633 [Report] >>7766675
>>7764530
talent isnt real. intelligence is aka your perception and ability to retain information and use the information. some people are intelligent enough to solve simple issues like the guy in the OP has by taking their time to get it right before amassing endless amounts of useless copies and exercises that arent remembered due to treating it like a speed contest
Anonymous No.7764635 [Report] >>7764652
seriously, why is he traving over the ref, then copying the construction wrong, then placing the items wrong as well, doing everything wrong. and all the programs he has open, he either has add or is on some fucked meds. guys like this have 50 tabs in their browser at all times, getting nothing done
Anonymous No.7764643 [Report] >>7764751
>>7764253 (OP)
He's actually progressing now
Anonymous No.7764644 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
somebody please help this man
Anonymous No.7764652 [Report]
>>7764635
>guys like this have 50 tabs in their browser at all times, getting nothing done
Rookie numbers, I have hundreds of tabs separated by namespaces.
Anonymous No.7764707 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
how the fuck do you mess up the angle of the brow line when you're drawing literally on top of your reference
fucking weebs man
Anonymous No.7764714 [Report] >>7765623 >>7765732
>>7764253 (OP)
This guy was like me back when I was in the 2-3 years of drawing, when I decided to 'draw seriously'. He's not really gonna accomplish anything if all he did is practice. He has to pick up a project that'll make use of everything he knows up to that point, finish those projects in about a day. Then move on and draw something else, and then try something new. Keep on drawing the same stuff without trying something new or taking a step back and just relax for a bit could take you somewhere but it'll just take long ass time.
Anonymous No.7764723 [Report]
People think to draw well you need to have perfect construction and follow it exactly, like construction is the main ingredient a dish that is a drawing. But the truth is all you need is Form and observation. construction is just one way to achieve form but it doesn't make your drawings good. He needs to ditch the construction and keep it all in his mind while he directly draws and copies.
Anonymous No.7764751 [Report]
>>7764643
He should... idk dude
Anonymous No.7764885 [Report] >>7765416 >>7765513
>>7764253 (OP)
Does anyone have that reference? I promised myself I wouldn't bully ArbiterWolf anymore if I couldn't post better work than him so I need to draw this bitch before I can pick on him with the rest of you.
Anonymous No.7764892 [Report]
>>7764292
Why would he need Internalized Cancer
Anonymous No.7764912 [Report]
>>7764619
>genetic immutable advantage in mastering a skill isn't talent
cope
Anonymous No.7765416 [Report]
>>7764885
Google search it
Anonymous No.7765513 [Report] >>7765966 >>7766794 >>7770711 >>7776565 >>7776924
>>7764885
>I promised myself I wouldn't bully ArbiterWolf anymore if I couldn't post better work than him so I need to draw this bitch before I can pick on him with the rest of you.

Respect. Always get something out of your vices.
Anonymous No.7765623 [Report] >>7765732
>>7764714
>when I decided to 'draw seriously'. He's not really gonna accomplish anything if all he did is practice.
I was exactly like this a while ago. Similar to how only doing readings and not, or very little, sketches of gestures, line weight, circles, etc, can only do so much.
>He has to pick up a project that'll make use of everything he knows up to that point
My largest gains i've seen have been from doing this. I get a feeling in the back of my head telling me how it's not "perfect", but i'm slowly accepting that it doesn't have to be and I can improve upon it in another stage.
Anonymous No.7765666 [Report] >>7765689
Just draw bro
Anonymous No.7765689 [Report]
>>7765666
That unironically looks better than my own stuff.
Anonymous No.7765723 [Report] >>7765727
why do I get the feeling 90% of the posts itt are from the same guy
Anonymous No.7765727 [Report]
>>7765723
The whole of this board is just chris endlessly samefagging, now that you noticed you must die.
Anonymous No.7765729 [Report] >>7765784 >>7765829
King has just uploaded Week 100

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtygK9zjl4
Anonymous No.7765732 [Report] >>7765805
>>7764714
>>7765623
i dont know
it just feels he doesn't have the "eyes" to judge if his work is shit or passable
maybe an observation thing?

personally im very critical of my work to the point i dont want to draw, but thats just me
Anonymous No.7765740 [Report] >>7770912
If only you knew how bad things really are
Anonymous No.7765784 [Report]
>>7765729
this is proof you need talent in order to do art
Anonymous No.7765805 [Report] >>7765810
>>7765732
Or just put his work in front of a mirror to actually see the errors
Anonymous No.7765810 [Report]
>>7765805
>to actually see the errors
if he can actually identify them
Anonymous No.7765829 [Report] >>7765989
>>7765729
is he baiting for views?
Anonymous No.7765959 [Report]
>>7764311
Same. He doesn’t want to be helped.
Anonymous No.7765965 [Report] >>7766422 >>7766873 >>7768237 >>7769783 >>7770495 >>7770715 >>7773162 >>7776688
>>7764253 (OP)
His comics are /beg/ but cute.
Anonymous No.7765966 [Report]
>>7765513
Thank you, I'll work on this after work and post progress tonight
Anonymous No.7765989 [Report]
>>7765829
>3k at most
he's not doing a good job at that either.
Anonymous No.7766422 [Report]
>>7765965
mogs me
Anonymous No.7766675 [Report] >>7766693 >>7767125
>>7764633
>talent isnt real. intelligence is
But anon, intelligence is a talent so if talent isn't real then intelligence isn't real.
Anonymous No.7766693 [Report] >>7766738 >>7766878
>>7766675
nothing is real
Anonymous No.7766738 [Report]
>>7766693
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_UATGR6Ckv0
Anonymous No.7766739 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
>Doesn't even try to capture the actual eyebrow line
Anonymous No.7766794 [Report] >>7766796 >>7766811 >>7769073 >>7770711 >>7770716 >>7771101
>>7765513
not that guy but I didn't feel right giggling at this dude's bad drawing and not doing any drawing, so I did a speedpaint of his ref.
about 30min, face isn't great but I'm satisfied with it for being the first thing I drew today.
Anonymous No.7766796 [Report]
>>7766794
is she supposed to have down syndrome?
Anonymous No.7766811 [Report] >>7766864
>>7766794
You are clearly more skilled than the artist in the OP but at the same time your art is so much harder to look at.
Anonymous No.7766864 [Report]
>>7766811
I know :(
Anonymous No.7766873 [Report] >>7766875
>>7765965
Wtf is happened i this comic? Did that dog stoled her wallet from her ass?
Anonymous No.7766875 [Report] >>7766910
>>7766873
Anonymous No.7766878 [Report]
>>7766693
Woah Jaden get back to acting
Anonymous No.7766910 [Report]
>>7766875
wtf
Anonymous No.7767125 [Report] >>7767272 >>7767288
>>7766675
intelligence isnt a talent, its genetics.
Anonymous No.7767272 [Report] >>7767280
>>7767125
genetics isnt a talent, its intelligence
Anonymous No.7767280 [Report]
>>7767272
i dont have genetics or intelligence
but ive got talent
Anonymous No.7767288 [Report]
>>7767125
talent is genetics
being a talented fighter means having proportions, musculature, bone density, nervous responses, hormonal balance etc conducive to fighting
being a talented mathematician means having intelligence, abstract thinking, prenatal brain development, synaptic connections etc
drawing a line between genetics and talent is retarded, talent isn't a magical fairy
Anonymous No.7767628 [Report] >>7767646 >>7771146
what about this guy? day 557 and this is the results

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBSb_UdRTkU
Anonymous No.7767646 [Report]
>>7767628
is this the power of drawing 30 minutes a day?
Anonymous No.7767707 [Report] >>7768073
He's better than the majority of you. Instead of laughing at people, laugh at yourself.
Anonymous No.7768073 [Report] >>7768215
>>7767707
in 557 days at 30 minutes a day he could have learned a new language instead and be somewhat proficient
Anonymous No.7768215 [Report] >>7768222 >>7768223
>>7768073
Why learn another language while I barely talk to people in my own?
Anonymous No.7768222 [Report] >>7768231
>>7768215
so u can watch anime without subtitles duh
Anonymous No.7768223 [Report]
>>7768215

learning languages starves off alzheimer’s disease
Anonymous No.7768231 [Report] >>7768234
>>7768222
>so u can watch anime without subtitles duh

I don't think I like anime anymore. Also Dubs are trash because they talk like power rangers- if I learn that japanese people do not speak the way anime portrays them speaking then I might be put off to the handful of shows I do still love/ have nostalgia for.
Anonymous No.7768234 [Report] >>7768238 >>7768461
>>7768231
no cartoon, east or west, speaks like normal people unless it’s some pretentious cartoon like hi arnold or whatever so what even is your point
Anonymous No.7768237 [Report] >>7768614
>>7765965
what is the story between these two panels? she finds the cashier attractive?
Anonymous No.7768238 [Report] >>7768261 >>7768609
>>7768234
also dubs are good and the dubbing industry seems to be one of the last heavily guarded vanguards in the west and i don’t care what weebs think about dubs.
Anonymous No.7768261 [Report] >>7768265 >>7768270 >>7768465
>>7768238
>also dubs are good and the dubbing industry seems to be one of the last heavily guarded

That's the problem with them. Everyone sounds the damn same. I'm tired of hearing 30 year old women play 12 year old boys or listening to voices that do not fit the character. One of the shows I do like is friren and I would've not gotten through that shit dubbed.

Ultimately I just don't want to cringe, the language barrier is nice
Anonymous No.7768265 [Report] >>7768266 >>7768276 >>7768609
>>7768261
Wow, I wouldn’t have gone through Friren if not the dub. Most people agree Frirens dub is good so I don’t know what cheese you’re smoking.

>Ultimately I just don’t want cringe

Anime is cringe. You wince at dubs because you can actually hear what they’re saying, word for word, in your native language.
Anonymous No.7768266 [Report] >>7768276
>>7768265
and the only reason why is so that I could soak in all the beautiful animation without a second to spare to subs. Also, the elf sounds better in the dub.
Anonymous No.7768270 [Report] >>7768276
>>7768261
>I’m tired of hearing 30 year old women play 12 year old boys
>I want to hear 60 year old Japanese women instead
Anonymous No.7768276 [Report] >>7768290 >>7769612
>>7768266
>>7768265
Idk what you guys are smoking, maybe it's because you're used to the dub. She sound fucking retarded, her voice doesn't fit her at all.

>>7768270
>I want to hear 60 year old Japanese women instead
I know (or at least audibly hear) many 30 year old women, don't know many 60 year old japanese women so my Suspension of Disbelief is sustained.
Anonymous No.7768290 [Report]
>>7768276
a lot of the jap voice actors are old now, especially the singers for adult games
Anonymous No.7768434 [Report] >>7768435
in /ic/ no one draws
Anonymous No.7768435 [Report] >>7768437 >>7768442
>>7768434
I do.
Anonymous No.7768437 [Report]
>>7768435
same, idk what that guy is on about
Anonymous No.7768442 [Report] >>7768455
>>7768435
pyw
Anonymous No.7768455 [Report] >>7768472
>>7768442
Anonymous No.7768461 [Report] >>7768474
>>7768234
>pretentious cartoon
>Hey Arnold
Anonymous No.7768465 [Report] >>7768483
>>7768261
Actually if you know how actual Japanese people talk you'd cringe at jap anime dubs too.
Anonymous No.7768469 [Report] >>7768475
>>7764253 (OP)
i love this little nigga
Anonymous No.7768472 [Report] >>7768478
>>7768455
this look like AI
Anonymous No.7768474 [Report]
>>7768461
yes that’s what i said
Anonymous No.7768475 [Report]
>>7768469
Anonymous No.7768478 [Report]
>>7768472
Your point being?
Anonymous No.7768483 [Report]
>>7768465
All dubs are cringe because the japanese are godawful at writing dialogue.
I once saw an anime dubbed in spanish and cringed so hard I had actual curiosity and searched for the OG scene and cringed just as hard.
Turns out the actress did an S tier job at capturing the cringiness and cornyness of the scene in japanese.
What the other anon said is correct, japanese dubs dont hit as hard because you have no idea what they are actually saying.
Anonymous No.7768609 [Report]
>>7768265
>>7768238
you are brown at best
Anonymous No.7768613 [Report]
>y-y-you're brown
concession accepted
Anonymous No.7768614 [Report] >>7768902 >>7769132 >>7769497
>>7768237
shes trying to pay and noticed she pooped her wallet two panels prior
Anonymous No.7768902 [Report]
>>7768614
lmao
Anonymous No.7769073 [Report]
>>7766794
horrible
Anonymous No.7769132 [Report] >>7769135
>>7768614
The dog in the first panel hiding symbolizes a turtlehead poking out. The last panel with the dog fully revealed out in the open symbolizes her completely splattering her ass with shit and just going with it.
Anonymous No.7769135 [Report]
>>7769132
high cognitive resolution detected
Anonymous No.7769495 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
His problem is that he spends 5-10mins on a drawing and only practices. Illustrators need to spend hours on a single drawing to get anything done, especially as beginners. He needs to practice observation skills, overlay the reference, and get it right.
Anonymous No.7769497 [Report] >>7769502
>>7768614
so how did she pay
Anonymous No.7769502 [Report] >>7769781
>>7769497
she stole it, u can see a cashier trying to stop her
Anonymous No.7769612 [Report] >>7769861 >>7769881
>>7768276
You have to understand that dub fags are just Americans insecure about their 3rd grade reading level. You have someone in this very thread indirectly admitting that they read so slowly they can't read subs and appreciate the visuals at the same time.

Dubfags are literal 90 IQ mouthbreathers. They're the kid in class who had to slowly trace their finger along the page when they had to read aloud in class. And they're deeply, deeply insecure about this fact. Once you understand that, you can see past all their terrible arguments to the heart of the matter.

"Subtitles make me feel stupid and inferior" is what they're crying out from their very soul. Don't argue with them as there's no point. Even they don't believe what they're saying. They just need an ego protecting excuse because the alternative is admitting the truth that they're mentally deficient. Just pat them on the head and send them on their way. "That's nice, Timmy, but remember to finish your remedial English homework."
Anonymous No.7769781 [Report]
>>7769502
or he's waving it off as in "you can have it for free." such a varied amount of interpretation for one post-abstract comic - dare i say he's more of an artist than any of us.
Anonymous No.7769783 [Report] >>7773590 >>7784679
>>7765965
Who among these three wins in a brawl to the death?
Anonymous No.7769861 [Report]
>>7769612
to hate reading so much they would rather listen to earrape english dub, they are truly something else
Anonymous No.7769881 [Report] >>7769883 >>7769911 >>7770577
>>7769612
what a low brain take you’re not worth my time
Anonymous No.7769883 [Report] >>7769911
>>7769881
also I guarantee I have more anime watched than you
Anonymous No.7769911 [Report] >>7769928
>>7769881
>>7769883
nigger
Anonymous No.7769928 [Report] >>7769931
>>7769911

The 2nd concession from you this week that i’ll accept.
Anonymous No.7769931 [Report] >>7769935 >>7771107
>>7769928
you will never be human
Anonymous No.7769935 [Report] >>7770004
>>7769931

You don’t think I know that already? Ever since I consumed monster meat I knew i’ll never reverse the damage of becoming a hybrid that surpasses humans. But I’ll keep living to survive.
Anonymous No.7770004 [Report]
>>7769935
based
Anonymous No.7770208 [Report] >>7770216
this conversation is not related to the discussion presented by op
Anonymous No.7770216 [Report]
>>7770208
who are you talking to
Anonymous No.7770217 [Report] >>7770223 >>7770270 >>7770277 >>7770573 >>7770578 >>7776727
Since the OP made the thread the Arbiter Wolf guy has received dozens of comments but keeps removing the critique comments and leaves up support comments. I’m leading to believe whoever runs the account doesn’t truly care to improve and or has actual autism. In any case, they do not want to be saved, they’re in it for youtube performance and nothing more.
Anonymous No.7770223 [Report] >>7770578
>>7770217
yep i noticed it too. all of my comments are gone. i tried with multiple accounts still they gets removed. idk is it youtube doing it or he doing it.
Anonymous No.7770229 [Report] >>7770243 >>7770277 >>7770337
I am now 100% certain that the op is responsible for 90% of the posts itt and is clinically obsessed with this guy
Anonymous No.7770243 [Report]
>>7770229
nah
Anonymous No.7770270 [Report] >>7770578
>>7770217
i noticed more that he engages with the asspats and any actual real criticism is ignored. didn't know he deleted shit ahahaha
Anonymous No.7770277 [Report] >>7770578
>>7770229
Not at all, I love me a good lolcow and Arbiter Wolf is doing what >>7770217 says then it's typical lolcow behavior and we're in for a good show if he doesn't quit.
Anonymous No.7770337 [Report]
>>7770229
we hate /beg/s
Anonymous No.7770495 [Report]
>>7765965
this really is just kinda crazy
Anonymous No.7770573 [Report] >>7771144
>>7770217
Any evidence?? Like I'm being serious here; this nigga really doing it?
Anonymous No.7770577 [Report] >>7770591
>>7769881
That's nice Timmy. But remember to finish your remedial English homework.
Anonymous No.7770578 [Report]
>>7770217
>>7770223
>>7770270
>>7770277
Good to see crabbing being rightfully removed unlike this shithole :)
Anonymous No.7770591 [Report]
>>7770577
but…oh never mind
Anonymous No.7770711 [Report] >>7771101 >>7771117
>>7765513
I tried taking a crack at it :p. I got bored half way through. At least I drew something tonight.
I don't know who the fuck this is or what he does and why he's drawing some ugly malnourished ching ching ass bitch but judging from the thread he seems to not understand what criticism is or why you shouldn't record progress on the fucking Internet for all to see and laugh at.

>>7766794
Better then my slop
Anonymous No.7770715 [Report]
>>7765965
I don’t get it but the ice cream guy is cute desu
Anonymous No.7770716 [Report]
>>7766794
low cognitive resolution
Anonymous No.7770912 [Report]
>>7765740
Anonymous No.7770978 [Report] >>7771101
>>7764253 (OP)
Anonymous No.7771101 [Report]
>>7770978
>>7766794
>>7770711

based
Anonymous No.7771107 [Report] >>7771117
>>7769931
white filth
Anonymous No.7771117 [Report]
>>7770711
Aw fuck I forgot to post the follow up. Dunno why my shit phone pics are sideways
>>7771107
Self racist
Anonymous No.7771144 [Report]
>>7770573
What do you even mean evidence? Make a comment yourself and watch it get removed.
Anonymous No.7771146 [Report]
>>7767628
the next day and this nigga finally learning 1 point boxes
Anonymous No.7771165 [Report]
Original guy who said he'd draw the reference and didn't get around to it for a few days. Gave it about an arbiterwolf amount of time. Dude needs to pick better references, no excuses for my dogshit drawing, but he almost exclusivly picks faces that are both tilted and rotated or are manga references that are fudged to look cool that he tries to apply the Loomis head to.
Anonymous No.7771621 [Report] >>7771709 >>7771772 >>7771833
Drawing doesn't take years to learn what is wrong with these retards?
Anonymous No.7771709 [Report]
>>7771621
These guys aren't really wannabe artists, they're wannabe YouTubers. They just happen to suck at both.
Anonymous No.7771772 [Report] >>7772637
>>7771621
>Drawing doesn't take years to learn
It literally does unless you're a NEET and can nolife it.
Anonymous No.7771777 [Report] >>7771879
I swear the moment I can NEET again I’m disabling my internet until I get all my shit done.
Anonymous No.7771833 [Report] >>7772637 >>7772642
>>7771621
so how long does it take
Anonymous No.7771879 [Report] >>7771882
>>7771777
lol lmao
Anonymous No.7771882 [Report]
>>7771879
y-you’ll see
Anonymous No.7772231 [Report] >>7772260
i hate it when redditardeds start to spam wall of texts
Anonymous No.7772260 [Report]
>>7772231
>redditardeds
Rent free
Anonymous No.7772637 [Report] >>7772649
>>7771772
If you're trying to draw you're already a neet.

>>7771833
You're not reinventing mathematics here, just copy what someone that can draw does.
Anonymous No.7772642 [Report] >>7773025
>>7771833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA9PYkqvib4
Anonymous No.7772649 [Report] >>7772657
>>7772637
>You're not reinventing mathematics here, just copy what someone that can draw does.

There's a path that they took that may or may not be available to you, there's also the type of artist that you innately are you may be fighting against your own instincts (Though you ought to try all forms of learning to learn all the tools because maybe you're more of another type you haven't discovered yet) Some people are immense planners and others like to start with blobs/blur and slowly chip at it until it looks like what they want.
Anonymous No.7772657 [Report] >>7772668
>>7772649
Not really. Drawing is a solved problem, there's only one good way to do it. After thousands of years we've come to the conclusion that chipping away from a blur (building on top of layers) is the best way, and all our technology supports this method. If you try something else you're just being retarded. It's not just drawing that works this way, absolutely everything works this way. Even building a bridge starts with a sketch and then a blueprint. You work out details once you've worked out the underlying blob. That's just how things work.
Anonymous No.7772668 [Report] >>7772676 >>7772676
>>7772657
>Even building a bridge starts with a sketch and then a blueprint.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. With planning and working from a blur you can start with a sketch/underpainting the problem is how comfortable you are getting to the result you want. Drawing has a ton of wiggle room for mistakes still looking believable so whether you like to tightly construct everything (which is one school of art) Or you just need to put gestures down in places because over thinking the construction can complicate your vision finding the right balance for you specifically is key. What I did forget to mention it's not about learning how to Draw, but learning how to learn if you're doing this without a school/atelier.
Anonymous No.7772676 [Report] >>7772703 >>7772753
>>7772668
>getting to the result you want
Nobody gets the result they want lol. Drawing is a process, you get to "good enough" and then you give up.

>>7772668
>What I did forget to mention it's not about learning how to Draw, but learning how to learn if you're doing this without a school/atelier
All the resources are free now thanks to the internet. You can literally go on youtube and watch a professional draw from scratch to the final product. Just copy them. The difference between a pro and a /beg/ is the amount of thought they put into it. Use your head.
Anonymous No.7772703 [Report] >>7772734 >>7772745
>>7772676
>Use your head.
So what you're saying is talent IS real.
Retarded and autistic ADHD people with aphantasia and calcified pineal glands and no asian jeans will forever be howies and unable to draw.
Anonymous No.7772734 [Report]
>>7772703
Retards are real yeah.
Anonymous No.7772745 [Report] >>7772747
>>7772703
Retards should really be determined at childhood and relegated at actual manual labor like cutting down trees, breaking rocks, wjatever.

All these years of labor learning drawing and still sucking at objective level, is an economic deficit for the Town he is living in. What the fuck
Anonymous No.7772747 [Report]
>>7772745
So you want a make-work program for unemployable low-skilled workers? Oy vey that's literally communism, forcing them to become homeless who catch schizophrenia due to having nothing to do all day but drugs is the proper American way.
Anonymous No.7772753 [Report] >>7772768 >>7772779
>>7772676
>All the resources are free now thanks to the internet. You can literally go on youtube and watch a professional draw from scratch to the final product. Just copy them.

This is absolute beg logic. Copying the process of a proffesional is the worst advice for learning how to draw- now if you're talking about some art resource youtuber yeah you can learn from watching a couple of vids. Blatantly copying some artist who's had years of experience going through trial and error in order to make what they're doing look easy, you're gonna be frustrated because yours won't turn out that way.. or learn nothing because you just copied without thinking (either one will grow your skill some though) Look at what thread you're in. That's the result of blindly copying when you're both at different places in your art -for lack of a better word- "Journey" Mr.Wolf is clearly biting off more than he can chew here, but he's too ignorant to know that he is.

Also now that there's so much free information, the problem is analysis paralysis. There are many pathways to become good and you may hop from course to course, tutorial to tutorial without really grasping concepts.

P.S. I really hate the new Captcha's it's like 4chan wants me to leave.
Anonymous No.7772768 [Report] >>7772776
>>7772753
Copying a finished work is already great for learning let alone having a process video to follow. You don't draw
Anonymous No.7772774 [Report] >>7772818 >>7772841
neuroscience guy also posted a video recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrsSXuC9XHs
I wonder how his next street fighter piece will turn out
Anonymous No.7772776 [Report] >>7772779
>>7772768
>(either one will grow your skill some though)
You don't read.

master studies are a thing for a reason. Just blatantly saying copy someshit is what leaves people in study hell unable to do anything without a reference.
Anonymous No.7772779 [Report] >>7772792
>>7772753
>>7772776
Copying is literally how all good artists learnt to draw for thousands of years. You're obviously not very bright which is why you find copying difficult. Reinventing the wheel is what retards do.
Anonymous No.7772792 [Report] >>7772794
>>7772779
I didn't say copying is bad. I said copying the process of a professional. Again learn to read. Professionals tend to do things in unconventional ways because they have certain parts of construction in their heads and they've trained their strokes for accuracy, no one is reinventing the wheel. I specifically spoke of how learning how you learn is important and you could get that from a school/ atelier. Stop jumping to conclusions and learn to read man.
Anonymous No.7772794 [Report] >>7772797
>>7772792
Are these unconventional ways in the room with us right now?
Anonymous No.7772797 [Report]
>>7772794
ya got me, brother, I fell for it! You win this round.

But yeah technically, if you scroll all the way up and watch the youtube video, that's not a conventional method to draw heads.
Anonymous No.7772798 [Report]
What if he's onto something tho bros?
Anonymous No.7772818 [Report]
>>7772774
>"science" based lifters are dyels
>"science" based artists are /beg/s
really makes you think...
Anonymous No.7772841 [Report] >>7772842
>>7772774
I hate this guy yet I can't articulate why
Anonymous No.7772842 [Report]
>>7772841
british, also he will look /int/ with his studies then instantly implode and look /beg/ with his street fighter fanart again.
Anonymous No.7772914 [Report]
is this the new embodiedjosh
Anonymous No.7773025 [Report] >>7773028
>>7772642
qrd?
Anonymous No.7773028 [Report] >>7773147 >>7773650 >>7778438
>>7773025
2-3 years to become an entry-level / junior artist
a hidden message in the video is that you can stay permabeg by year 3 if you don't practice / have a decent IQ
Anonymous No.7773147 [Report]
>>7773028
b-b-b-but anon said it doesnt take years...
Anonymous No.7773162 [Report] >>7773298
>>7765965
holy fuck
Anonymous No.7773298 [Report] >>7773634
>>7773162
there is a hidden deep and complex meaning behind this masterpiece
Anonymous No.7773590 [Report]
>>7769783
am i insane to say that the perma/beg/ dog looks the least shit
it just looks like a poorly drawn dog
prokos fetus is nightmare fuel
le POLYGUNS dog looks nothing like a dog and the pink polygon in his mouth makes it look like he's doing the early 2003s flash animation mouth talk thing
Anonymous No.7773634 [Report]
>>7773298
what's your personal interpretation
Anonymous No.7773650 [Report] >>7773669
>>7773028
how do I have decent IQ?
Anonymous No.7773669 [Report]
>>7773650
dont watch yt grifters
Anonymous No.7773680 [Report]
>>7764253 (OP)
Anonymous No.7773716 [Report] >>7773718
>>7764253 (OP)
This is after NINETY NINE fucking weeks of practice? Is this guy just exceptionally bad or can I expect to be just as bad after almost 2 years?
Anonymous No.7773718 [Report] >>7773729
>>7773716
you should be better than him by week 1 if you simply follow pic related
Anonymous No.7773729 [Report]
>>7773718
Oh thank lord
Anonymous No.7773731 [Report] >>7774443
Anonymous No.7773757 [Report]
just use loomis correctly
Anonymous No.7774443 [Report] >>7774960 >>7774983 >>7775494
>>7773731
wtf is that sleeping pose lmao
Anonymous No.7774867 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWPVquOOJ0M
we're so back bros
Anonymous No.7774960 [Report]
>>7774443
she's stretching after waking up
Anonymous No.7774983 [Report] >>7775502
>>7774443
the plot twist is she's trapped inside an aquarium
Anonymous No.7775090 [Report] >>7775421
How old is this guy? 2 years and thats all he has to offer? That is so scaringly depressing
Anonymous No.7775421 [Report] >>7775503
>>7775090
he draws for like 30 minutes a day and is horribly misled. nothing depressing about the equivalent of a guy practicing his jumpshot once a week, not indulging in dribbling/strategy/theory/cardio and wondering why he won't make the team
Anonymous No.7775494 [Report] >>7775502
>>7774443
Anonymous No.7775502 [Report]
>>7774983
>>7775494

LMAOO
Anonymous No.7775503 [Report] >>7776344 >>7776348 >>7776369 >>7776373
>>7775421
>he draws for like 30 minutes a day
That's not enough, is it... Fucking hell, I'll never make it as a wagie.
Anonymous No.7776344 [Report] >>7776387
>>7775503
No it’s absolutely not enough. 2 hours minimum to get anything done. Professional Illustrators can spend hours upon hours on a single drawing and as a beginner you will need to work on the same drawing over multiple days to get what you want, using all the resources at your disposal.
Anonymous No.7776348 [Report] >>7776373
>>7775503

You don’t need to look at him for that evidence. Just see /dad/ and their 30 minute rule.
Anonymous No.7776369 [Report] >>7776387
>>7775503
Depends on what you want to achieve and how good you can parse pictures in your head.
Anonymous No.7776373 [Report] >>7776387
>>7775503
Even wagies can draw more than 30 minutes a day if they actually want to. It's not easy, but it's not unrealistic to put in at least 2 hours a day. I probably draw more than like 99% of Neets here, despite having a full time job. And you also have the weekends where you can do even more. You can progress with less, but it's a lot slower, and I also feel like having longer sessions of at least 1 hour makes it easier to focus.
>>7776348
There's some that improve a lot, though to be fair, they've been at it for almost a decade and might be drawing more outside of the site.
A lot also seem happy with where they are and aren't really trying to improve I think
Anonymous No.7776387 [Report] >>7776397
>>7776344
>Professional Illustrators
Don't care, not gunning for pro anyway. Fucking crab.
>>7776369
>Depends on what you want to achieve
That's fair.
>>7776373
>Even wagies can draw more than 30 minutes a day if they actually want to.
Unless you also have a family and other hobbies. Eventually you get to a point where something has to go.
Anonymous No.7776397 [Report] >>7776400
>>7776387
>Don't care, not gunning for pro anyway.
you implied that you wanted to "make it", which is usually understood as becoming a professional. If you have your own definition, how would we know?
>Unless you also have a family and other hobbies. Eventually you get to a point where something has to go.
Of course, nobody has unlimited time, nothing to do with being a wagie. That seems more like art isn't a priority for you. That's fine, but why do you even care about "making it" then? Just enjoy it as the low effort hobby you want it to be.
Anonymous No.7776400 [Report] >>7776413
>>7776397
>why do you even care about "making it" then?
I also see it used all the time in the sense of "getting good" in general. That's all I really care about.
Anonymous No.7776413 [Report] >>7776536
>>7776400
In that case, 30 minutes a day is plenty. It will take years, maybe a decade or even multiple, depending on what "good" means to you, but you'll get there as long as you don't completely disregard trying to improve and keep at it.
Anonymous No.7776536 [Report] >>7776569
>>7776413
you cant even sketch a study in 30 minutes
Anonymous No.7776565 [Report]
>>7765513
tried my own miserable attempt, i guess i should work up on those observation skills
Anonymous No.7776569 [Report]
>>7776536
Do it over multiple days?
Anonymous No.7776688 [Report]
>>7765965
the amount of effort it took to draw all these scenes and see the comic to the end, automatically puts him in the top 1% of /ic/.
Anonymous No.7776727 [Report]
>>7770217
Maybe he's got a humiliation kink
Anonymous No.7776924 [Report]
>>7765513
Anonymous No.7776957 [Report] >>7777095 >>7777115 >>7778474
>>7764253 (OP)

>WHAT THE FUCK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWPVquOOJ0M
Anonymous No.7777095 [Report] >>7777251 >>7778474
>>7776957
i'm not unconvinced that half the positive comments are ic trolls. this guy clearly has no ability to look at his own work with a critical eye so he turns to external analysis
Anonymous No.7777115 [Report] >>7777140
>>7776957
2 years all for this
Anonymous No.7777140 [Report]
>>7777115
Sovl
Anonymous No.7777251 [Report]
>>7777095
no, that's just what the internet is like outside of /ic/
even in drawthreads on other boards, it's nothing but empty praise and feelgood platitudes
/ic/ tends to lean on the other side, but at least you can tell when someone's being a cunt for the hell of it, seeing absolute trash getting the same feedback as you is devastating
(Miphares) No.7778438 [Report]
>>7773028
Which video from him is that print?
Anonymous No.7778474 [Report] >>7778544
>>7776957
>>7777095
>positive comments

But it's true, there's some improvement, he now knows what the land marks of the face is but is too stupid to figure out he's not using the correct angles by using plumb lines and triangulation. This man refuses to measure anything it's a major step to see him at least measure the head.
Anonymous No.7778544 [Report]
>>7778474
holy beg
Anonymous No.7782661 [Report] >>7782663 >>7782665 >>7782766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iRPC-3BYlY
WOOOOOOOOOLFBROS
Anonymous No.7782663 [Report]
>>7782661
>2 views
is that you, mr wolf?
Anonymous No.7782665 [Report] >>7782897
>>7782661
why the fuck everytime i comment it get removed?
Anonymous No.7782700 [Report] >>7782703
>>7764253 (OP)
I'm obsessed with Asian women.
Anonymous No.7782703 [Report]
>>7782700
Be better.
Anonymous No.7782766 [Report] >>7782888
>>7782661
holy shit he is learning
Anonymous No.7782888 [Report]
>>7782766
Is he? Even if he copied perfectly what is his next step? Learn every infinite angle the head can be drawn at by copying this guy? What happens when he wants to start drawing bodies or backgrounds? He still doesn't understand form or perspective in the slightest and its been 2 fucking years at this point
Anonymous No.7782897 [Report]
>>7782665
oh shut up. it would say 1 comment but nothing would appear (since he'd have deleted it) but it still says 0 comments.
Anonymous No.7783112 [Report] >>7783116
why my AI art thread got deleted? /ic/ hate AI art?
Anonymous No.7783116 [Report] >>7783242
>>7783112
>poo
>loo
pick 2, you stinky jeet
Anonymous No.7783242 [Report] >>7783248
>>7783116
AI is future of art and creativity adapt or get left behind
Anonymous No.7783248 [Report]
>>7783242
adapt to indoor plumbing, poopshit
Anonymous No.7783251 [Report]
"art people" don't understand AI or Art
they all gatekeepers
Anonymous No.7783279 [Report]
what a very relevant discussion
yes, you're part of the problem, guy replying to the jeet
Anonymous No.7783318 [Report]
/r/defendingaiart is raiding here
Anonymous No.7784583 [Report]
>the first 2 years are just warmups bro!!!
Anonymous No.7784679 [Report]
>>7769783
Proko's kangaroo. The leg drive in each of its punches would be insane.