Thread 7779891

Has anyone else tried it? I did some drawings and it was actually okay, but i haven't painted anything yet.
You can import ABR brush files, but only the tip will be transferred, i also haven't tried messing around with the brush settings yet.

>>7779891 (OP)
How many shekels did they pay you?

>>7779898
None, i'm genuinely just curious what people here think about Affinity Designer. It's now free and SUPPOSEDLY is a decent Photoshop alternative, so i thought about checking it out.

>>7779904
>>7779891 (OP)
if its free you are probably training ai for them, just pirate photoshop or use cirta

>>7779912
Makes sense... I don't plan on actually using it, since CSP is way superior to both Affinity and Photoshop.

>>7779891 (OP)
I tried it out yesterday and abandoned the portrait i started as a test pretty quickly.

I found the brushes and the brush engine absolutely wonderful to use, especially the oil brushes. However, the application itself is just awful in terms of actually using it. I kept accidentally switching to vector brushes, and eventually unbound them in the keyboard. Everything feels more focused on graphic design rather than drawing and painting, and theres just so many weird issues. It didnt let me resize my colour wheel, which i didnt like because it was tiny. I also didnt like that the triangle spins as you go around the wheel, and couldnt figure out how to lock its position. It feels weird going to the top of the triangle to select darks, and then switching colour and going back to the bottom to select them/

I am a pretty mediocre artist tbf, but the added frustration from how clunky the app was just made me give up very early into the study i started. pic related.

It's a shame, if it was solely a painting focused application id switch to it. I really like how the brushes felt.

>>7779972
because that's the illustrator equivalent, affinity photo is the photoshop equivalent
it's made for /gd/

>>7779978
Photo sucks for painting too, it's more like a Lightroom analogue than Photoshop.

>>7779978
I thought they merged them all into 1 application with the release of Affinity by Canva?

I just cannot be assed to firewall block it to stop it from uploading my shit for AI training and so I don't get banned for breaking their ToS.
It's not even that good anyway.

>>7779972
OP here. You pretty much summed up all my experiences with it. It feels like i'm always having to fight against these little inconveniences and it's so annoying, they could also add a default preset for Photoshop shortcuts, since a lot of new users were Photoshop users.

The default brushes are awesome, which surprised me, but i think the brush engine has some bugs and problems, i had to enable stabilization to get good lines with pencil brushes.

The app and brushes don't lag either, which is good. I had some lag problems with Photoshop, but nothing major. I feel like Affinity has potential, but it doesn't look like they'll bother with making it better for artists... If they ever do, i think people will straight up just migrate from Photoshop.

>>7779996
i checked the affinity website and it says it isnt using anything you do for AI

>>7779996
I did firewall it, i don't give two shits lmao. They actually displayed a data collection confirmation when i first started the software, which i denied, but it's Canva we're talking about here, so...

>>7780011
Yeah, they even display a data collection consent which you can deny, but Canva is known for being scummy, so it's hard to put trust on it...

download qbittorrent
search for photoshop using the native search function so you don't have to go through aids russian torrent sites
sort by seeders, pick the version you want
block all adobe IPs in ur hosts file, tons of guides for this online + regularly updated lists

enjoy your permanent, free, static photoshop version that will never be broken by shitty updates or ToS changes.

>>7780017
everyone knows how to torrent photoshop. We're just talking different art apps because they all handle brushes a little differently and its fun to experiment

nigga, fuck photoshop

>>7779972
Forgot to mention, the painting looks GREAT, i think you should've finished it, despite all the stress.

>>7780011
They 100% use it for ai training, if it's free you are product. Honestly I doubt there is single LLM in entire world that was trained with legally bought stuff. If they didn't directly using your projects because they are stored locally they will still have stuff like usage data and that could be used for training, I think clip studio paint is recording everything u do in project into one small file that is used after for timelapses, Adobe fresco or free affinity could easily have similar function, instead of giving u timelapses they have perfect record of what u do, how u do and why u do sent to cloud as "data to improve our products"for ai training.

>>7779891 (OP)
it doesnt work on linux with wine yet so i will wait

>>7780011
This just sounds like a legal loophole
>"is not used to train AI-powered features"
>"or to help AI features learn"
Why exactly the emphasis on "FEATURES" rather than the AI itself?
Why are said AI features always on?
Why does it still keep sending constant BOATLOADS of network data even if you opt-out of data collection?

I dunno, it's just really sketchy and outside of the performance, it just doesn't really do anything too well to stand out amongst the crowd of drawing software.

>>7780034
Did you gave this a try? I kinda want to, but i use both Linux and Windows.

https://github.com/seapear/AffinityOnLinux

>>7780044
>wine fork
ill just wait until support is ironed out on main although i wish that happened sooner rather than later

>>7779891 (OP)
I am using their Vector tool for a year now and am happy to have an Illustrator alternative that is stable and has all the relevant features. I don't know how I feel about that update though, I don't trust it and I feel like it is a downgrade because it was just a 35€ one time pay for Affinity Designer (it went on sale several times a year). I am holding off on reinstalling the newest software.

just use tinywall foss firewall, windows one cannot be trusted.
Also all photoshop versions (cs6+) ustopable pind to adobe servers you can try it yourself

>>7779891 (OP)
thanks but my Adobe CS2 still werks.

>>7779904
>what people here think about Affinity Designer. It's now free and SUPPOSEDLY is a decent Photoshop alternative
I thought Designer was the Illustrator alternative, and that Photo was the Photoshop alternative, no?
And just to round things off, Publisher is the InDesign alternative.

Anyway, this isn't to say you can't create art in a vector program, I quite like vector art myself, but it's a bit of a different process - and freehand vector brushes tend to slow down a bit compared to raster brushes; though I haven't tried to freehand vector art in a looong while, so maybe that's changed?

Used for 3 hours after it become free
>ai prompts generate shit from 2023
>gui is trash, garbage tier like krita and gimp
>because of it software is painful to use

no thanks xDDD fuck off, won't use this trash even for free

>>7779891 (OP)
the live brush preview is nice. some nice painting brushes, didn't like the pencils.
had some bugs and graphical glitches already.
not really worth switching.

>>7780041
I'm curious as to what AI features they're actually having.
Because on one part they can't really burn the bridges with artists but they also have to make money from something.
Also because I'm noticing a certain... community edition of a certain AI software I've been using hasn't been getting meaningful updates for over a month when they tend to have updates every week. I'm wondering if it's because... they're getting acquired.

>>7780031
You can block outgoing connections from the program in your firewall - problem solved.

>>7780806
>they can't really burn the bridges with artists
Hasn't stopped adobe.

>>7781606
adobe literally stole government secrets from the glowniggers and had jeets feed them to ai lmao

>>7779891 (OP)
i've been using the affinity suite for years, i bought the first version and upgraded my licenses to v2
they're fine programs but i don't draw in them myself, it's not as fast as clip studio paint on my pc
i do all my compositing and effects in it though
>>7779904
affinity designer is the adobe illustrator competitor, vector editing is now built into the new affinity v3 (and was already in all v2 apps) so the differentiation doesn't really matter much anymore
vector editing in affinity doesn't have nearly as many useful tools as adobe illustrator does. it has the basics but none of the things that save you time

>>7782850
>i bought the first version and upgraded my licenses to v2
How are you finding affinity, as opposed to the v2 suite?

>>7782857
it was kind of annoying that none of my workspaces or settings migrated over, all the toolbar icons are white, and all the contextual tools in the toolbar are gone
i'm pleased that all the vector tools are in one app now, before i would have to open my file in designer to add more than 1 strokes to shapes which seemed like a stupid limitation

>>7780041
there's the on device features that require a model to be downloaded to your computer in order to use and run locally, some of them require a paid canva subscription (which is stupid if they're running on your device)
then in the canva ai persona there's a bunch of generative features that probably just communicate with their servers since they're features also available on canva in your web browser. these also require a subscription

>>7779891 (OP)

if it aint open sourced it aint free. If a product is free you are the product. The only way I'm using this is the pirate version without log and license checking bullshit.

>>7782886
and is it turn on by default? if so every person using this is below pajeet tier, indians at least get paid for work for big corpos, person using this do that just for free apps

RETVRN

>>7782883
WHOAH NO FUCKING WAY

ARE YOU LIKE.......LE FUCKING NEO>>?!?!? CAN YOU SEE THE CODE?D?!?!?

>>7782893
Pretty much every software has these things turned on by default by now.

Average /ic/ IQ
after reading tos:
>I DON'T BELIEVE THIS FOR A SECOND!
>IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING YOU'RE THE PRODUCT!
Same /ic/ user:
>OMG IS THAT A FREE RUSSIAN CRACK.EXE OF FAMOUS PAID PRODUCT? I SHOULD CLICK IT! I LOVE FREE STUFF!

>>7782922
>>7782942

why do you care? you don't even draw.

>>7782942
the funny part is that boris.hacker.2004 from rutracker is more trustworthy than the company making the famous paid product

fucking hell if anything boris has more of a reputation to uphold on his respective forum than adobe or whoever

>>7779891 (OP)
Krita.

You will draw on paper and pencils, and you will like it.

You will get your hands dirty again without those 400000 layers for every circle and lineart.

whats the point of the genai shit if i cant hook up my own local models
bullshit

>>7786549
>whats the point of the genai shit if i cant hook up my own local models
Honestly, the best use case for AI right now is training your own model on your work and using it that way - frankly, I'm surprised that's not how it's setup.

>>7786571
trainers already exist so thats not needed, I'd just want to be able to use a model i already have on my system and not whatever API/pay-per-gen shit they put in there