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How the FUCK do the Chinese paint on a single layer??? and how do they make it look so good? what kind of drugs are they taking?
Anonymous No.7781113 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
maybe they eat paint
Anonymous No.7781118 [Report] >>7781123 >>7781899 >>7782348
have you never painted traditionally?

painting on one layer is easy. you don't have to worry about layer management, and if you draw over something you can just draw it back in.
Anonymous No.7781123 [Report] >>7781159
>>7781118
No, I used to do watercolors though. so the Chinese get classically trained in art schools or something and that translates over to digital?
Anonymous No.7781142 [Report]
watch literally any traditional painting video
Anonymous No.7781159 [Report]
>>7781123
in general the chinese get trained and that translates over
Anonymous No.7781167 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
Study real art instead of anime coomer slop
Anonymous No.7781186 [Report] >>7781214 >>7781220 >>7781228 >>7781312 >>7781921 >>7783263
>>7781112 (OP)
Btw I noticed online discussions keep mentioning painting vs lineart. And how painting is faster, and what /pro/s do.
I don't get it. What's the definition of "painting" and "lineart" in this context?
I was always under the assumption that the order is sketch -> inking -> color + layers magic.
Does "painting" somehow magically skip this process? But how about the lines then? Does "painting" always mean stuff without clean lines?

Not trolling. Serious question. This painting vs lineart thing could be just nonsense that youtube/instagram grifters push.
Anonymous No.7781206 [Report] >>7781208
>>7781112 (OP)
Are digitalcucks seriously this stupid?
Anonymous No.7781208 [Report] >>7781216
>>7781206
pyw
Anonymous No.7781213 [Report] >>7781421
It's easy. They lie.
Anonymous No.7781214 [Report]
>>7781186
Painting does lineart during the color stage (and sketch stage sometimes), and because they're all on one layer you can just freely redraw shit without playing musical chairs.
Anonymous No.7781216 [Report] >>7781221
>>7781208
Post your 20 sketch layers.
Anonymous No.7781220 [Report] >>7781228
>>7781186
you can paint without a sketch, just block in the shapes and adjust them as you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_TeeRq6ats
Anonymous No.7781221 [Report] >>7781226 >>7781233 >>7781421
>>7781216
you can do 20 sketch layers in trad using a light table get the fuck out of /ic/
Anonymous No.7781225 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
Learn from the Chinese: https://www.xuetangx.com/course/nbcc3501913dpintl/26302403
Anonymous No.7781226 [Report] >>7781230 >>7781983
>>7781221
>things nobody does
>implying anyone in /ic/ even owns a lightbox
Ok, you've convinced me digitalcucks really are that stupid. What's next?
Anonymous No.7781228 [Report]
>>7781186
Lineart is just a technical to separate planes. You can do the same with colors by blocking them as >>7781220 pointed.
What the fuck is this display that the precision seems too good though? I could never do it without zooming in in my shitty huion without zooming in a lot.
Anonymous No.7781230 [Report] >>7781233
>>7781226
Yes, everything you make up is real.
Anonymous No.7781233 [Report]
>>7781230
Meant for >>7781221
Anonymous No.7781312 [Report]
>>7781186
My own understanding, is lineart means when the final illustration you can still see that, the lineart, basically a polished sketch/outline. General workflow is sketch > clean line art > coloring. However, some artists skip the lineart step and go straight to painting, leaving next to no outlines in the end product. It's easy to see why it results in a faster process, since you don't have to worry about beautiful lines, or line weights.
I don't think it's neccessarily something all pros do though, it heavily depends on style. Capeshit, cartoon and manga are heavy on good lineart, but modern western styles, game industry art, and more painterly styles tend to forego lines and rely more on shapes and volume to tell details apart.
Anonymous No.7781421 [Report] >>7781446
>>7781112 (OP)
its called painting in real life, but you wouldnt know what that is
>>7781221
>20 sketch layer light table
retard has never set 100ft within a light table to be saying this idiotic thing
>>7781213
beglet needs its layers
Anonymous No.7781446 [Report]
>>7781421
>idiotic
I've cut up a sketch into little bits and glued it back together to rearrange composition before. I don't know why you'd need a light table for this, though. After your sketch is done, you can just copy it onto the final canvas and move on.
Anonymous No.7781471 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
you should try it sometime, it's oddly liberating just being able to blend or sample without caring about layer order
painting and coloring comes so much more naturally since i stopped trying to autistically isolate parts of the drawing and just kinda started working on top of whats there
Anonymous No.7781899 [Report]
>>7781118
you paint in layers in trad, retard
oil polymerizes and you can just wipe off fresh paint without disturbing the layers underneath
traditionally painters would paint the underpainting in egg tempera and then layer oil on top
there are up to 100 layers of paint in places of rembrandt's paintings, same with van eyck
Anonymous No.7781921 [Report] >>7785051
>>7781186
Up until (and including much of) the 19th century, most painters made very precise drawings as the basis for their paintings. They would start with rough compositional sketches. Once the composition was settled upon, every major figure in a painting was isolated and studied separately, as with important/challenging heads, hands, feet, etc. Every detail was worked out before bringing it all together in a "cartoon," or full-scale preparatory drawing, which was then carefully transferred to the surface which was to be painted.

Later, many painters took a more direct approach, making only a rough charcoal under-drawing or going straight to paint. This change coincided with a greater emphasis on the effects of light and color and lesser emphasis on form and linear design.

Ingres is an example of the former, Sargent the latter.
Anonymous No.7781958 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
The Chinese don't use layers in their digital paintings.

I didn't know being retard was admirable.
Anonymous No.7781960 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
drugs??? It's called COVID-19
Anonymous No.7781983 [Report]
>>7781226
I have no idea what the fuck is a light box but light pad is 5 euro on aliexpress
Anonymous No.7781988 [Report] >>7782387
>>7781112 (OP)
>The Chinese don't use layers in their digital paintings.

I didn't know being retard was admirable.
Anonymous No.7781993 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
The Chinese use sewer oil for cooking.
Anonymous No.7782000 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
The Chinese eat eggs soaked in urine.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rPIvDJG1etI&si=7EvrH46_XSm155vQ
Anonymous No.7782003 [Report] >>7782387
>>7781112 (OP)
"I have a toilet, I poop on the floor"
Average Chinese person.
Anonymous No.7782315 [Report] >>7782387
>>7781112 (OP)
Not using layers in digital is like using a motorcycle with the engine removed and pedals.

Nothing admirable.
Anonymous No.7782343 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
Anonymous No.7782348 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
>>7781118
Exactly. They DO layer on ONE layer like traditional artists.
Anonymous No.7782352 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
>Chinese not use layers

Why use a motor if you already have toes?
Anonymous No.7782387 [Report] >>7782463
>>7781988
>>7782315
>>7782003
so what advantage using multiple layers give you, except making it easier to cut up the piece for other media use, or correcting mistakes easier, with the second advantage being highly debatable if you know what you are doing in the first place anyway
Anonymous No.7782463 [Report]
>>7782387
The difference with traditional art is that the environment limits you to avoid wasting materials and making mistakes. In digital art, it's foolish to limit yourself. I repeat, would you take the engine out of a car to push it with your feet?
Anonymous No.7782503 [Report]
you don't need layers if you don't make mistakes
Anonymous No.7782508 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
Literally just patience, practice, and discipline
Anonymous No.7783263 [Report] >>7783277
>>7781186
draw a circle in lineart
now paint the circle

lineart is too much work, you try to construct the image of a shape one line at a time, and often getting wrong, painting on the other hand is more intuitive, you can easily notice problems and correct filled shapes, not so with lines.

lines also have the issue of thickness, unless you're experienced, your line thickness won't have much direction, leading to very disappointing results.
Anonymous No.7783277 [Report] >>7783282
>>7783263
Anonymous No.7783282 [Report] >>7783291
>>7783277
where's the comparison broski
Anonymous No.7783291 [Report]
>>7783282
it's literally the same thing, nigga
Anonymous No.7783692 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
Plagiarism from Korea and Japan.
Anonymous No.7783703 [Report]
>>7781112 (OP)
>chromatic aberration
Anonymous No.7784776 [Report]
I have very helpful things to say about the subject, but I will not share them because I detest this whole website at this point
Anonymous No.7785051 [Report] >>7785098 >>7785850
>>7781921
It's so funny how the actual int/pro advice goes completely ignored in nearly every thread
Anonymous No.7785098 [Report] >>7785850
>>7785051
Because the int/pro advice usually requires thought and effort, and people begging for answers are usually doing so to avoid those two.
Anonymous No.7785850 [Report]
>>7785051
>>7785098
History trivia =/= advice