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Anonymous No.7783751 [Report] >>7783753 >>7783771 >>7783857 >>7784386
How long would it reasonably take for a complete beginner to get to this level? Could it be done in a year?
Anonymous No.7783753 [Report]
>>7783751 (OP)
A week unless you're below 100 IQ.
Anonymous No.7783755 [Report] >>7783758
great picture for ants. if youre just copying like the first poster said, a couple of months maybe. doing it from imagination, many years depending on your intelligence and ability to perceive and retain information but also willingness to work hard.

sage for obvious bait.
Anonymous No.7783758 [Report] >>7784386
>>7783755
I should have specified being able to do it from memory but yeah that's what I meant.
Anonymous No.7783764 [Report] >>7784028 >>7784031 >>7785356
How long would it take for someone to be able to draw cartoons like picrel from memory?
Anonymous No.7783771 [Report]
>>7783751 (OP)
1 day unless you are below 80 IQ
Anonymous No.7783857 [Report] >>7783882
>>7783751 (OP)
just enroll to your local art workshops. If the art workshop is making you do the Charles Bargue plates, it's probably good. And that workshop will assess your actual drawing skill level if you are thrown to the bargue plates immediately or do the retard level drawing.

Autistic solo learning will take at least 1 year. Learning with some person actually correcting your shitty mistakes at every level is better
Anonymous No.7783882 [Report] >>7783950
>>7783857
seconding this. I floundered as a beg doing retarded shit like drawabox or starting and never finishing a dozen courses for years, then just signed up to a local workshop where you get a mentor, and in 3 months I made more gains than in 3 years by myself.
Anonymous No.7783950 [Report] >>7784032 >>7784033 >>7784037 >>7784394
>>7783882
Why do people hate drawabox so much?
Anonymous No.7784028 [Report]
>>7783764
You can draw anything from memory if you can remember it
Anonymous No.7784031 [Report]
>>7783764
it's unironically harder for me to do an appealing copy of john k's style than drawing a realistic human face and body
Anonymous No.7784032 [Report]
>>7783950
too technical for brainlets here
Anonymous No.7784033 [Report]
>>7783950
I didn't hate it, and I found the early lessons on accuracy a good useful base, but I dipped when the autismo started and went to do peter han (until the tank autism chapters).
Anonymous No.7784037 [Report]
>>7783950
It's not structured very well. Practicing something in order to address a flaw in your work/process is far more effective than practicing something because some guy promised it will somehow be helpful in some unspecified fashion at some point in the future. Drawabox has people grind things before they know what they should even be trying to take away from the exercises. Grinding away at something you can't apply is also thoroughly unrewarding; there's no satisfaction in getting good at a Drawabox exercise because it has no immediate application, at least not until late in the course (and even then that's only if you intuit how to actually make use of construction yourself or learn it elsewhere.)

A lot of drawing resources suffer from this. They try to get people to build up a foundation for the future before teaching them to actually do something they can experiment with. Fun With a Pencil has the right idea in that it tries to provide a process to get people drawing things more comfortably immediately, and then iterates on that.
Anonymous No.7784386 [Report]
>>7783751 (OP)
>>7783758
If you study at an atelier (which is much cheaper than going to university) you can learn to draw figures like that accurately from observation in a year or less. Of course, it depends on your prior experience, talent, etc., but the method is very well established and even total beginners will see progress under a competent instructor if they stick with it.

Drawing figures from imagination is something else entirely and requires a different track. The method of observational drawing taught in ateliers treats the subject at the outset as nothing more than dark and light shapes to be carefully measured and then refined, working from the largest and most enveloping shapes down to the small details. Anything you learn about the figure from this process is incidental. The approach is not anatomical or structural, although most ateliers do offer separate classes in artistic anatomy.

Inventing figures from imagination is harder and takes more time to master because it calls upon a much larger skillset than observational drawing. You have to be familiar with average or ideal proportions, anatomy, function of the joints, range of motion, basic perspective and how to draw and render primitive solids like cylinders, cubes and spheres — and then there are more advanced topics like rhythm, dynamism, composition, characterization, etc.
Anonymous No.7784394 [Report]
>>7783950
It is only good for normal beginner artists, autistic beginner artists are completely trapped in it. And will shit up any public forum
Anonymous No.7785356 [Report]
>>7783764
Between 6 or 7 years of your life.

Have fun