Thread 7786575

How come serious webcomics artists and creators never get as popular and widespread as online coom illustrators those days? Everyone knows who Eigaka and Krekkov are alongside their skill level yet I don't know any professionally drawn current day webcomics made by a skilled amateur, and the webcomics that were popular back in their heyday like Girl Genius, Homestuck, Twokinds, etc. started decades ago, even KSBD is 12 years old by now.

>>7786575 (OP)
webtoons fucked everything up for all of them

>>7786575 (OP)
Webcomics had their rise, peak and fall, and sadly, true webcomics probably are going to become a hidden niche again. But it was a magical time before the masses came online. A different time online.
>>7786579
This. Now all webcomics are going to be funneled into the main websites like Tapas, Webtoons, Hiveworks, etc. And the vast majority of the popular stuff is copy/paste faux-manga or full on manga romantasy on those funneled websites.
Webcomics were kind of niche to begin with anyways, but webcomic creators were a special kind of story teller. In that they were probably more true to themselves as artists than others are. Their works, albeit amateurish and even beginner levels, were filled with their own soulful creation and style. There was no template to follow, no followers to chase after or trends or audience. There was practically no audience to begin with, so why no make what you want to make. The only limitation was the comic-page format itself, and Scott McCloud theorized correctly that story-telling would evolve past the page with new formats of comics, notably endless scrolling.
Artists not only made their own comics, but also made their own websites, and decorated and made them specially catered for themselves and their work. It was an experience.
But, the original webcomic artists are a bit of a dying breed. Things like Erfworld, Goblins, Twokinds (albeit very anime and Inyuasha inspired) amongst many others are at their low peak, and we'll see if they ever return like they once did.
>How come serious webcomics artists and creators never get as popular and widespread as online coom illustrators those days?
Because coom material is at it's height for various reasons, men are lonely in record numbers, it's highly profitable, and it's easily consumed versus a webcomic, that is essentially a story telling apparatus. A candy bar versus a home cooked meal.

>>7786575 (OP)
Korean's Webtoons is really selective on what they show

Japan editors is really selective on who they let in.

Actual independent websites owned by artists can't get reach because 2025 Internet users aren't going outside Reddit, Facebook and all Meta Products, Youtube and Google products.

You

because all third worlders are now online as well

>>7786586
>There was no template to follow, no followers to chase after or trends or audience
Dead fucking wrong and it's the webcomic creators who'll be the first to tell you that. You're confusing your own experience as a naive kid with that of the adults trying to make a living with webcomics, yes even back in the early 2000s.

because porn is easy to market. Sex sells like fucking candy. Making an interesting comic isn't as easy to sell/market. The end. Why is it the same 4 artists you faggots glaze on this board. Theres a reason why all NSFW artists mostly stick to NSFW, cause branching out is incredibly difficult, especially when you built yourself on something as simple as porn. Theres a reason why alot of them crash out or get exhausted/fatigue or go on weird moral crusades when they try to stray from their original path.

>>7786575 (OP)
I suspect that people attention spans are so fried that they can't be bothered reading something long form like a webcomic.
Porn though? That's just a in the moment thing.

>>7786621
>Why is it the same 4 artists you faggots glaze on this board.
Faggot. Singular. This is a gabe thread, newfag.

>>7786625
who tf is gabe, give me the lore

>>7786627
He's the guy who previously fellated the same handful manga authors over and over and has lately switched to fellating the same handful of twitter artists. Maybe his handler started letting him use the internet unsupervised and he found porn, I don't know.

>>7786629
as a relatively new artists in general and an even newer /ic/ viewer. This board is genuinely depressing to look. Like people actually just don't draw here. Like so many questions here and there and i always think in my head "Have you tried just drawing it first?". But i wonder how many people are malicious actors, bots or just actually this retarded.

>>7786631
The people who are drawing aren't browsing the board and they're certainly not opening threads. At best they're popping in to a general or two, posting their work, reading/replying to replies and that's it. I'd recommend to start mentally filtering out all the useless threads with OPs that belong in SQTDDTOT.

>>7786634
i got a discord i hang around with and thats where i mostly talk with art friends. I use 4chan and wanted to check if it had an art board, and low and behold it does. Barely. So im just gonna stop using this garbage board.

>>7786637
Do yourself a favor and cut out 4chan entirely. There is no benefit to browsing this site.

>>7786588
>You
Feds got another one.

>>7786579
>webtoons fucked everything up
This is the real answer. Webtoons turned webcomics into a business, it's all about trends, target audience, marketing now.
Webtoon artists got contracts, the top webtoons make millions of dollars per year and have billions of views, shit is crazy.
They're extremely popular because Gen Z and Alpha don't use PC like Millenials, which is why Japan is creating their own webtoons and webmanga to compete with South Korea and China webtoons.
>Picrel is Jump try to get into webtoons market, it's called "Jumptoon" and it's losing hard in its own country to Line Manga and Piccoma.
>Line manga is the Japanese version of Line Webtoons
>>7786601
Back then only a few really tried to make money off webcomics, most were doing it as a hobby, that's not the case nowadays

>>7786575 (OP)
it got heavy commercialized, most of the readers of webcomics(millennials and older) stopped using the internet as much or at all because of life, and weebtoons became popular. Sad part is that webcomics have follow the same isekai/romance script or It's most likely doomed to fail. cause if you tried to make a webcomic outside of that you will get a stigma of "Millennial" humor.

>>7786588
>Japan editors is really selective on who they let in.
their only 'selective' criteria is if it's interesting and readable enough to make money, which 99.9999% of comic/manga artists around the world will fail at. sellable slop doesn't qualify as successes to me so dont bring it up

>>7786773
Woah, it's almost like the opposite of the Western model of representation and DEI first, currently. No wonder anime and manga are massive entertainment industries and are kind of the new Hollywood of the East of comics and animation.

Most people who read comics outside of mainstream stuff are other artists.
Biggest currency comic readers have is their own time because chances are they are wageslaving hard.
You really think johnny is gonna go out of their way to read something new on manga plus creators or webtoon? Fuck no lmao he's gonna read whatever is being shilled by SJ or Western media.

>>7786575 (OP)
Because nobody is interested in rizzless webcomics enough to want to read them, especially people like you who ask this question every week.

>>7786762
Where can I find an English version of those webtoons? How are they called?

>>7786575 (OP)
People can't read comics if they don't know how to read.

>>7786575 (OP)
Okay here me out: porn webcomics. Best of both worlds.

>>7786575 (OP)
>Everyone knows who Eigaka and Krekkov are

>>7787251
It's the same few Twitter circlejerkers making these retarded threads I guarantee you
Nobody fucking knows who Eigaka and Krekkov are. I don't fucking know or remember or care who these fags are until I come back to /ic/ and see them being namedropped all in the same post by a cultist.