Thread 211816895

>SAAAAAAAAR WE DONT WANT EURO BECAUSE WE CAN CONTROL THE VALUE OF ZLOTY
meanwhile the Polish zloty, just like any other EU currency that isnt euro is 1-to-1 in change of value to euro. Euro goes down, zloty goes down. Zloty doesnt move by itself.

it actually does

>>211816906
it doesnt. You can literally check the exchange rate and it moves as much as Danish krona, meaning nothing

>>211816906
>>211816928
and by the way the longer this goes on the more correct this gets. Every day it gets sillier to defend Polish currency, unless you dont want to be in the EU

>Zloty means gold
>it isn’t actually gold

>>211816928
Because it's a stable currency. We can bump interest rates up or down at will to mitigate inflation at will while the rest of Europe keeps waiting for Germany to do something.

poles are retarded
simple af

>>211816962
>umm we theoretically can do this so SUXX FOR YOU xa xa xa xa xa xa
except this doesnt matter since you dont. You will never do and you follow what the ECB does to the letter.

you arent like Swedes who actually have their own currency policies

>>211816983
We literally did this you dumbass, what's your problem?

>>211817003
polejeet lying again about his country
that graph literally shows how ECB is like
>now Poland...JUMP
>*jumps*

>>211817052
now, I know in poledi you dont speak English that well but no one argued that you dont make your interests rates yourself
the argument was that you dont decide what it actually is and you just have certain threshold to it just like the Danish people have

>>211816959
It references Czerwony Złoty (red golden, actual Polish name for a golden coin).

>>211816928
>>211816895 (OP)
Yes but they can manipulate it if they want.
If they adopt the euro, polish economy is over

>>211817064
That's exactly what you did.
It's okay to admit that you lost bro, it's fine. Go to the fucking sauna or whatever you Fins do and calm down.

>>211816983
>Poles are retarded obedient cattle which is bad
>therefore they should become even more subjugated
I don't get it. If you can do it whithout a loss it's always better to be more independent as a country

>>211817112
>If they adopt the euro, polish economy is over
no, they do what they have done previoulsy which is follow the euro like good little pigs

>>211817122
that is not what I argued and you are just projecting. All I said that your moneratory policies follow the ECB and your own currency is practically just in name.

What a fucking embarrassing humilation LMAO. This really shows my theory as true

Adopting the Euro is political suicide in Poland. It's never going to happen. Tusek is pro EU and even he doesn't actually want to do it.

>>211817129
But they CAN if they wanted or needed.
A country without its own currency isn't a independent country

>>211817153
it is pretty much symbolic move to change to euro and it shows Polands commitment to euro
but since they arent, I am 100% sure Poles are gonna do reverse policy with the EU once it develops enough. For now, the EU has been a gold mine for Poland but once it evens out and Poles actually need to pay up, they will CURSE the EU and probably move towards Russia

>>211817160
yeah well that is pretty much it
does Poland want to be in the EU or not? My answer is that probably not. They arent against the EU only because they get more money from it, they really hate the idea of the EU itself though

>>211817175
>shows Polands commitment to euro
literal fucking cult

>>211817242
the EU is an idea and has always been, the idea has always been by French-German bankers to have United States of Europe and if you arent behind that then you are basically opportunistic person

>>211816895 (OP)
Husaaaaaaaaaar

>>211817175
>they will CURSE the EU and probably move towards Russia
you are a fucking retard holy shit

>>211817291
yeah well it is 100% sure that Poland will curse the EU very soon because Poles will never accept that they might have to pay up more than they get. I think Lithuania will have for the next budget that, they will fund the EU more than they get from it but Poles will never accept this.

then Poles will go against the EU and probably leave it and you will as slavs most likely go towards the east one way or another

>>211817315
like Baltics are pro-EU and they are commited to it. They are developing faster and are way less eastern minded and generally dont think they are "the east" against the west like Poles do

>>211817323
source on them developing faster?
Poland not only has -30% lower prices, but also even nominally, in euro, higher salaries...

our poor Wilno doesn't even have trams under the shithuanian occupation...

>>211817699
Lithuania has higher gpd per capita and you become net payer when you are 90% of EU average
Lithuania will most likely start paying more than they get. Once Poland gets there? It will be ape out because Poles do not like the EU in actuality and feel more eastern and identify with that

>>211816895 (OP)
They are right. Everyone decided to fuck us in the ass by increasing prices when we switched to the euro. From the supermarket chains to the local baker, everything increased ten to twenty percent overnight.

So who is this new finnish schizo seething about Poland 24/7?
A jeet or russian vpn?

finnjeet lost in this thread

>>211817744
>Lithuania has higher gpd per capita
in PPP? purely because of an accounting trick
we're surpassing them and their accounting tricks next year anyway, just like we're doing with Spain (source: IMF)

>>211816895 (OP)
having own currency literally saved us in 2008

>>211816895 (OP)
Don't you have anything to care about but stability of Polish currency at 4am in fuckin Finland?

>>211817191
>They arent against the EU only because they get more money from it, they really hate the idea of the EU itself though
Yeah that's based. If you want to give up your country to Belgian/German pedophiles that's on you. Poles are too intelligent to fall for it.

>>211817323
Ok, I hope you will protect them so we don't have to

>>211819586
yet another pro-Russian Pole
many to come

>>211819694
I despise Russia but I'm not gonna die either

>>211818662
>>211819643
He's part of the /rus/ discord and will take over from Sasha since Sasha is close to acking himself. Its a russian living in finland

>>211819710
you hate the west more than you hate russia so you will choose your side

>>211819749
Based, thanks

Can a Pole explain to me why our media overlords are scared that Poland might turn against the EU and start turning a blind eye to Russian imperialism? It's not like these guys at the top in our cunt can change the Polish popular opinion, so to me it's a sign there's something fishy about Poland going on.

>>211820224
because the pro-russian party in Poland has the zoomer vote

>>211820224
I don't know, it's an absurd scenario. All polls always show Poles to be extremely pro-EU, and extremely anti-Russia. I have no idea why does foreign media keep running the "Poles actually have the EU" angle.
>>211820411
There is no pro-russian party.

>>211820224
God if only that were true

>>211820772
>There is no pro-russian party.
there is and it really shows how you dont notice it. You are pro-rusian as well

>>211817003
overlay ECB interest rates dipshit

>>211817323
>They are developing faster
I guess Latvia has been banned from the baltx

>>211816895 (OP)
>t. has had stagnant economy for 15 years
Maybe wouldn't be the case if you had your own currency

>>211816959
>lari means hoard
>it is not an hoard
>tetri means white
>Isn't actually white

>>211820966
it will take 100 years for jeetland to rise to Finnish level of gdp per capita anyway

>>211821328
i would rather live in POLANDIV than shitland

What makes finnshit posters so retarded and obsessive?

Tbh adopting the Euro is in fact simply neutral economically. There is no clear pattern regarding inflation or economic growth between countries that adopted it vs those who didn't. It has pros and cons and they usually balance out, so it's more like a political issue than purely economic one.

I'm for switching to the Euro just for convenience with international business or tourism, also it looks to me like eurozone countries have better PR and get reclassified to higher positions in whatever meme rankings just by the virtue of sharing the same currency with holy Germany

>>211822141
holy shit
the WHITEST person Poland award goes to you sir

>>211822056
This one has a point and takes a stand. I can relate with him, he's not completely foreign. If he defended strict economic nationalism, I couldn't say the same (that he's relatable). That's how the EU works, if we share common things we can relate to each other.

>>211816895 (OP)
good

>>211822141
I will welcome you my friend

>>211824239
Move.

there's 0 reasons to be angry over currency