>be me
>115kg overweight, obese basically
>do 10 push ups
>feel light headed
>sit down on couch
>puke
>lay down
>faint
How to fuck am I supposed to lose weight if this is what working out does to me?

I'm no expert but why don't you start with tame things like walking

>>211853866 (OP)
1. Eat less, cut out as much fried food as you can
2. Start with light cardio, like walking and biking + do some light lifting too
3. Do that consistently at least for 3 months, while scaling your loads

Would highly recommend getting gym membership and use the services of a personal trainer, if that's something you can afford

>>211853866 (OP)
do backflip

>>211853866 (OP)
1. count calories (even if roughly)
2. get less of them
visit /fit/

>>211853866 (OP)
Go for long walks and eat less.
Don't drink your calories.
More exercise, less calories.
It's really that simple.

>>211854222
>visit /fit/
This. The homosexual vibes on /fit/ will motivate you

>>211854366
Genuinely the worst ever place to go for advice

If you're some undisciplined fuck like me (almost certainly) I strongly suggest intermittent fasting. You basically skip breakfast and don't eat after dinner.
It's the only diet which doesn't have me dream about eating

>>211854379
Naah, they can help you a lot when it comes to gay dating

Don't you guys have huge forests in Sweden.
Take a walk, every day for an hour.
Eat less bread and sugar and sweets and drink no alcohol.
Try eating more protein.
The trick is to jumpstart your metabolism.

>>211854447
>Don't you guys have huge forests in Sweden.
>Take a walk, every day for an hour.
This. I walk a lot and havent gained a kg for a decade despite beeing an alcoholic with a shitty diet

>>211854473
For me the biggest problems with weight were alcohol, I drank every day, and sleep I slept during midday.

>>211854489
I drink pretty much every day too, quite a lot too. But I try to not sit home all the time. Walking around in the forrest semidrunk/high is awsome. Sucks a bit in the winter tho, but then I just make a campfire if it gets too cold. Really helps having an alcoholic friend to do it with

>>211854534
Do you have any good stuff in Sweden to drink, why are you drinking so much.
I used to drink home brewed alcohol, had lots of it.

>>211854559
We have home brewed up here in the north, but most of it is pretty shit in my experience. Otherwise the liquer store has what you expect. I tend to stick to spirits for my walks since its a lot less to carry then beer

>>211853866 (OP)
Are you 160cm or below? I'm 100kg and I can do 10 pushups fine, despite being a fat fuck too.

>>211853866 (OP)
stop eating

>>211853866 (OP)
I refuse to believe you fainted from a SINGLE pushup, OP. However if you're telling the truth don't worry, the beginning of a journey is always the hardest part. In a month or two you'll be doing push-ups no problem, just keep at it

if you spent years without doing any exercise and eating yourself into obesity, you should start doing 70 year old tier stuff, because that's essentially the level your boy is at
I'm talking like 5 incline push ups a day for the first 2 weeks, or a bicycle for no more than 5 mins.

>>211853866 (OP)
got fooled into some herbalife scam by a cousin, cant say no to a cute girl with big tits. the product herbalife is meh whatever, the diet program they put you on holy fuck its effective. lost 5kg a month for a total off 20kg. obviously regained it all over the years since this.
diet programs are the easy way too loose weight but they also slightly fuck up your metabolism so you get even fatter once you quit the program. you have to follow it for life and thats where most, me included, fail.

>>211853866 (OP)
brisk walk 45 min twice a day stay in zone 2
+ caloric deficit

>>211853866 (OP)
eat less
walk

>>211855216
Puke. XD. Blog on. He met her.

>>211855159
You should have slapped her tits because she scammed you.
I have learned to resist the wiles of women.

>>211853866 (OP)
>be me
>5'7 125
>spend about 6 hours on my feet gardening or whatever
>drink fairly heavily the whole evening
>feel and function just fine by about 10am the next morning.
I've done this for years, and it's hardly made a difference, even to my appearance. I suppose the lesson is don't be fat. almost no matter what else.

>>211853866 (OP)
If you were 115kg overweight, it would be a miracle if you could even do a single push up tbqh. So I'm calling bullshit.

>>211855247
i wanted to slap my dick on her tits and you dont get to do that by being a chud

>>211853866 (OP)
desu 10 pushups (if done correctly) is a good score for a obese beginner, many people can't do more than 2-3

just maybe do it step by step, don't train at your max capacity

>>211853866 (OP)
Du går ner i vikt genom att äta näringsrik mat, inte genom armhävningar, fettot
Ända sedan barnsben har mammsen matat dig med processad mat fylld med rapsolja, den här maten gör dig FULL (bokstavligt talat) men inte MÄTT (väldigt lite näring)
Sluta äta all processad mat; grödor, fröoljor, frysta rätter, godis, läsk chips osv
Börja äta riktig mat dvs animaliska produkter, all slags kött, mejeriprodukter, ägg, ät potatis och andra grönsaker bara om du tycker om dem, näringen får du från djur, inte från växter
Tillaga din mat i riktig smör (inte bregott), talg eller ister
Gemene man på 1960 talet hade precis samma matvanor som du och jag, dvs de åt vad som fanns tillgängligt i handeln, idag är maten förgiftad med fröoljor och kemikalier till den grad att processad "mat" borde klassificeras som droger
Du kan inte längre gå in i en matbutik och handla mat utan att tänka efter, du måste välja bort mycket

>>211855690
That would be difficult to do regardless of your chud status because the dick would have need to be a few meters long.

>>211856202
it is...
>>211856103
dont diss on frozen food so hard, frozen chicken, fish, meat, vegetables and such is just as pure as others, well mostly. its the processed food thats bad. for a normie trying to shop healthy food its these frozen products that will be their goto meals, its too much effort and way too expensive to buy fresh products all the time.

>>211853866 (OP)
Dont believe you. There are no fat people in sweden.

>>211853866 (OP)
>How to fuck am I supposed to lose weight if this is what working out does to me?

Walk as much as you can and stop drinking anything that isn't milk, water, or tea/coffee.
Even making those simple changes could see you lose 6-9kgs and if you can manage those habits you'll be able to take more extreme measures in weight loss.

>>211854222
>>211855216
If you're retarded and can't calorie count for whatever reason, the fool-proof method is: >>211854416
Pick designated meal times for eating (you can eat as much as you like during your designated meals) and stick to them. Cease all snacking and only eat during your designated times; if you miss a meal time starve/fast. I personally started doing this when I became 30 and lost 13kgs and got rid of the disgusting pot-belly I had been growing.

>>211853866 (OP)
Consume less calories anon. Only water, no alcohol, more green food.
Also move more, doesnt have to be pushups, literal walking is enough like others here said.
>>211855633
Im 120 and can do 20 pushups

>>211853866 (OP)
just stop eating and drink water with electrolytes instead

>>211853866 (OP)
You brought it on yourself.

>>211857962
its not always that simple. most kids dont really care about what they eat nor are they capable or making good descision about it until they are teens, by then the foundation has been laid and if you are fat as a 13 year old you will probably be fat or atleast struggle with it for the rest of your life. to me it resulted in me stopping eating and by 18 ish i was healthy weight, but that had completely fucked up my metabolism. my normal sized dinner is half that of others my age and size. its a common thing among overweight people, we dont eat small or drink pepsi max because we think it will make us loose weight, but because if we ate like normal people we would explode.

>>211858174
I was thin during school and army, then I became fat.
Then it took me years to become thin again.
But I did not start as fat so this helped me I guess.

>>211853866 (OP)
>push ups for losing weight
never heard of cardio?

>>211858224
Cardio kills gains though.

>>211858248
yes, and we're talking about losing fat not getting gains

>>211853866 (OP)
By eating less you moron.
I went from 137 kg to 89 kg in two years simply by eating smaller meals.

>>211853866 (OP)
Do cardio first, and this isn't /int/. Why aren't you asking this on /fit/? And start eating properly, this isn't complicated, but it is not as simple as just doing it. You will have to study or get some guidance.

>>211858216
i was close to 100 in my early teens, got down to 89 in the army, jumped to 120 years later, lost 20 during that herbalife scam, then slowly regained most of that again probably close to 130 now. but i do have some muscle im working trades and hike a lot, im actually stronger now than i was at 89 in the army and have more stamina for long hikes. i have accepted my faith, my body wants to be fat, too bad i havent seen my dick in years and probably never will again.

Just wanted to say, we have lots of big guys or ex big guys here.
Imagine if we all gathered.

>>211853866 (OP)
You need to eat less and healthier and do cardio.
Not push ups.
You're just gonna hurt your body by doing weight training before you get in better shape.
Start with some lighter dumbbells instead (bicep, shoulder and movement).
But most importantly, diet.
Cut all useless crap. Eat veggies and chicken. Count calories if you need to.
And WALK.
Don't run, gonna blow your knees out in your current shape. Just walk. 30 minutes to an hour. Every day.

t. ex-fat fuck -now 75 kg.

>>211853866 (OP)
Start off slowly mate, go for walks every day and go from there, exercises like push ups still need cardio and if yours is terrible then you'll feel like shit afterwards.

>>211858483
What kind of dumbbells best served you.
I started with 5kg but now I would to double the weight but I'm too stingy to spend the money for it even when I know that it is good for my health.

>>211858483
Why are there a load of fat swedes on here?

>>211858533
Dumbbells are expensive just join a gym

>>211853866 (OP)
Why can't obese people fast? If I notice that I'm growing a belly I just start eating a small single meal per day for few days

>>211858540
Because half our country is fat.

>>211858540
Have you seen the average Swede outside of Stockholm?

>>211853866 (OP)
eat less/ starve yourself
it should be easy enough and give quick results if you have self control

>>211858627
Damn, Swedes look like this?!

>>211858572
Food addiction.
>bro just stop drinking if you're an alcoholic
Addictions overwhelm the mind with intense cravings and urges. It becomes all they ever think about and they orient or plan their life around it too.
I am addicted to tobacco. It's hard to stop. I get chills, I get tense and I feel upset/irritated. Smoking washes it all away and brings relief.

Obese people have it hard.

>>211858670
Yep. Especially rural folks.
Being fat is kinda the national sport. Doesn't stop them from getting married either so the fatness keeps going.

>>211858574
Just seen it's fucking 64% here, it's OVER

>>211858802
My only addiction is coffee.
I have to drink two coffees every day or I'm getting headaches.
While I could live without coffee and I do not see the point of it.
It is not making me fat, there are no adverse effects.
But food, alcohol and tobacco actually create problems.
Not saying my addiction is better than others of course, all addictions are bad.

>>211853866 (OP)
You're Scandinavian so I suppose you're tall. Being 115kg at +190cm isn't a big deal. I know a 17 year old fighter who's 135kg. He's strong as fuck and pretty agile.

>>211858802
This.
Just eating less was the hardest for me. Not even hunger. Just the insane urge to stuff my face with chips, greasy food and sugary drinks.
It was easier to stop smoking after ten years. By far.

>>211858627
right dude is literally me.
>>211858836
the veird thing is these fat rurals are seemingly just as fit as their skinny grandfathers, they still do logging, hunting, farming, long hikes and such. not all of them obviously but its definetly a thing.

>>211858994
Yeah. My uncle is basically Hagrid irl (195 cm - 150+ kg) but he works all day on his farm even at age 46. Strong as an ox, on his feet 10+ hours a day.

How do thin people even enjoy their lives? There's not much to do in life besides eating

>>211859099
Because being fat is annoying.
Because of my belly I could not tie my shoelaces or clip my nails.
When I was driving my belly would bounce up and down because Greeks roads are terrible.

>>211859084
He'll probably die in his 50s of a heart attack

>>211859183
That's not a nice thing to say about someone's relative.

>>211859211
I'm just being honest mate, fat men don't live long.

>>211859183
Dad is almost as big and already 58. My grandpa was basically a beach ball with legs and arms and he lived to 84.

>>211859099
I'm feel lazy to eat.

>>211853866 (OP)
>>do 10 push ups
Fuck off gymrat

>>211859357
that is biologically incoherent.
animals are basically born to eat and fuck. how do you get lazy about that

>>211853866 (OP)
>115kg
>pushup
Did you honestly believe your fat ass exerciseless arms could do that?

>>211859506
I can't push myself too much with eating, if I'm done I'm done

>>211859506
Because we have brains and we realize that food is poison and sex is slavery.

>>211859084
>even at age 46
dude, i feel old now...
lets just say im really close to that. nothing has changed with my body since 20 except i blow weak af loads and what i back then considered painfull or suffering i now just ignore and do anyway because pain is fake.
your kids are in for a suprise as you grow older... you do know that retirement age is 60+ and many work well beyond that? dad is 75 and still going strong.

>>211859321
Good genes then, time to fatmaxx

>>211859552
>you do know that retirement age is 60+ and many work well beyond that?
I'm already retired at 34 thanks to my autism and shit.

>>211859506
I eat enough to be alive. Eat more is just bothersome. I like good food, but I feel no need to eat much more. I don't want to spend more money on it or more time on cooking, and more time eating it.

>>211859588
>I don't want to spend more money on it or more time on cooking, and more time eating it.
that's interesting. what do you want to spend your time and money on then?

>>211859682
I occasionally buy videogames when there are deals.

>>211853866 (OP)
Start off against the kitchen sink and progress to lower angels until you do them at the floor.
Just standing in plank is good (core) training as well. Keep a clock in sight to count seconds.

>>211859682
>time
Random shit.
>money
Keeping. I wish I will be able to buy a car or my own place someday.

>>211859766
Guess I just need some hobbies to distract myself

>>211859821
For me it's a combination of work, rest and random family drama.
I wish I had enough money and was alone so I could enjoy life on this god forsaken planet, but alas that was not the case for me.

>>211858483
>dumbbells
There's also rubber latex bands of different strengths that are easy to work with for tons of different exercises.

>>211859869
Yep Rusta has a 5 pack for 49 kr with different resistance levels. Those are pretty good.

>>211859864
>and was alone
you'd better have someone around you especially if you like them

>>211860091
Other life forms tire me.
I prefer machines.

>>211859869
excercises as push/pull ups are really easy to do intial progress on as long as you go straight for it. its the exhaustion that gives progress, dont go soft into it with angles, kitchen sinks or rubber bands. a starting point can be to do it revesely, if you cant push or pull yourself up, start by slowly lowering yourself down instead. it actually works, your arms should be hurting so much you cant fap for days, then rince and repeat.
but it does nothing for loosing weight.

>>211859944
I'm talking about bigger, circular bands or loops that lasts for a much longer time.

>>211860633
Non...

>>211859869
Thank you for mentioning them. I work as a physio therapist and bands are one of the best tools we have.
From arms, legs, neck to shoulders. It's one of the best tools you can have in your daily health routine. It's pretty much completely harmless and does a ton of good for muscle and joint movement and strength.
But it saddens me to see how many young people and certain "boomers" feel awkward using them and always ask for the heavy weights instead even though it won't do any good.
My tip is always
1. Resistance bands.
2. Body weight training (always start at a comfortable level, even of it's against a kitchen sink as people here have said, if you can't do 20 reps, it won't do any good anyway)
3. Walking. The way nature made us.
4. Swimming. This is the ultimate form of full body strengthening. You get cardio, you get muscle, you get flexible. With zero harm.
5. Standing desk. Might seem pointless but standing for an hour is an exercise in itself compared to sitting. If you do it longer, even better.

>>211853866 (OP)
working out isn't what makes you lose weight. Diet does
Cut the sugar and processed food, eat like a normal person. You don't need to run 100km everyday and eat egg shells. Just eat less, do intermittent fasting or something, stop snacking and avoid sugary things and pre made meals

>>211860633
>I'm talking about bigger, circular bands or loops that lasts for a much longer time
Rusta's bands are large and circular.
You don't need to spend 10x the price at your local fitness store for the same quality.

>>211860671
I've seen them used as a support for pull-ups as well. Fastened at the rib and standing in the loop makes it lighter than body weight allowing for different grips targeting other muscles.
I keep mine by the sofa and have fun finding new ways to use them.

>>211853866 (OP)
Start with cardio ya dingus
Cardio first, then strength training! Especially if you want to lose weight.

Start by walking, drinking a fuck ton of water. If your pee isn't "clear abd copious" you're not hydrated enough.

Work your way up with walking to an hour a day.
Then run the first block. Once you've got that down (you don't feel like your heart is going to explode, you no longer dread that first part) add another block. Do this until you can run for half or three-quarters of an hour.
Then go for times. Write each time down, try to get a new best every day. You'll have stagnant periods where you cannot get above a time for days or even weeks... do not fret, the new personal best is near. After that grind you will finally smash your old time -- often by a big margain.

>t. been in and out of shape several times
I'm about to run right now actually
Remember: start small; it's about the discipline of doing it, period. And drink lots of water!

>>211861001
Should add: it doesn't have to be an hour you can do more or less. I would not go below half an hour, though.

It sucks at first, but after 2-3 weeks you will paradoxically have more energy than you ever had.

>>211860724
bands are good for motion practice but shit for strenght. you only push or pull the band as far as its comfortable and you feel its a good excercise but really it isnt. with weights you either lift it or not and its easier to push yourself this way.
mom is pretty stiff and goes to the gym every week, but refuses to do excercises that get her stiff and sore then complains how the gym doesnt work, she is the typical band user. and me telling her she needs to get fucked up every session leaves her fumbled?
>but i dont want to get fucked up?
exactly, thats why you do it at the gym so you dont get fucked up in real life. if you lift 100kg at the gym and it hurts, the 50kg you lift at home wont feel so bad. you dont get to this point by lifting 40kg (thats actually 30kg) in a soft and controlled matter.

>>211861113
Anon is obese, way out of shape and hurting from a few push ups.
For him, bands are one of the best things he can start with.
No gym, no weights. Just bands, diet and cardio.
That is all he needs.
He's not aiming for big gains and dead lifting 300kg. He wants to lose weight.

>>211861113
>if you lift 100kg at the gym and it hurts, the 50kg you lift at home wont feel so bad. you dont get to this point by lifting 40kg
Ok and?
OP wants to lose his fat. Not become Hafþór.
LOSE WEIGHT. NOT DIE FROM CARDIAC ARREST AT 40. He needs cardio, dieting and daily exercise.

Why do you /fit/ fags ALWAYS bring up useless shit? He does not need weight lifting, he does not need anything except lose weight right now.
Maybe in the future when he's lost 15-20kg in weight, he can start focusing on tone and muscle but right now he needs to drop the kgs, nothing else.