How do third worlders afford modern hardware?

they have rich people too.

>>212003080 (OP)
we simply don't

>>212003080 (OP)
third worlders are not above stealing and scamming

>>212003080 (OP)
We don't. Usually we buy old hardware or low end/midrange

>>212003080 (OP)
I buy high level hardware to play games you can run on your phone

>>212003080 (OP)
we don't

>>212003080 (OP)
they don't. there's a reason they all play free games on steam that are like 15 years old

>>212003080 (OP)
mix of gray/black markets and connections with the bureau of customs

>>212003159
then why do new yorkers still do it

>>212003358
New Yorker here visiting family. We turned it into a an cultural institution worthy of a UNESCO designation. It's legit older than most states and their most modern iteration

>>212003080 (OP)
got a 4070 super for 10000 (120 USD) cheaper than 5070 which offers same performance last december

>>212003346
what do you play?

I bought second hand rtx 4060 for about 600 azeri shekhels

Is there an easy way to sell 2nd hand hardware and not get it slapped by duties or do I have do >>212003355 or know a local?

>>212003080 (OP)
We don't. I look at the prices and I almost faint

>>212003355
What's your processor?

>>212003584
originally was going to go with the a 7800x3d but the non-boxed version of the 9800x3d was just $75 more expensive so i decided to go with that

>>212003579
Once you join the EU it will get better ukronazi bro...

>>212003209
Low end shit costs 1,000 here
I want a simple RX 580 but I can only find cheap Chinese dogshit to buy

>>212003080 (OP)
Unless they're a white collar remote worker, the rest of us will never be able to hold a brand new capable gaming graphics cards in our entire lives. At least in the West a Walmart minimum wage worker has a 5090 rig after his first paycheck while the same job here you'll be more worried about low wage problems like wage theft from your employer or paying what wasn't sold. There's no point in stealing one either cuz most third worlders don't own 8 pin power supplies. I myself only watch gameplays since I could never see myself even having a low end gpu.

>>212004339
I don’t think a Walmart worker could afford it on their first paycheck lmao. If they save up for a while they could get one but it would make more sense to just get a 5080 or AMD top end

>>212003080 (OP)
I steal

>>212003080 (OP)
Even most first worlders can't at this point.

On credit

>>212003080 (OP)
Credit card.

>>212003080 (OP)
I only do graphic programming on UHD graphics 620 so that if one day in the short term I do omething nice, I want thirddies to run it

>>212005251
>AMD top end
Bro AmD abandoned the top end

>>212003339
have you ever tried running any LLMS on it? i have an idea but need some anecdotes.

>>212003080 (OP)
I ask money from my mother and father

>>212003080 (OP)
I prostitute myself

>>212003726
That's pretty grim. I used to have an RX 480 but I threw it away along with the rest of my old computer

>>212006927
I bought new pc parts, a ryzen 7700 and a 5070 with summer job money i made last year

>>212003080 (OP)
pc gaming is relatively cheap hobby. i have a 4080 super and i only make 2100 euro a month.

I built a new PC with Ryzen 7900X and 4070 2 years ago and just play old games on it

>>212003080 (OP)
remember when PCs were so expensive only the chosen few could own them and then also post online?
tl,dr same with high "power" GPUs

>>212007560
no

>>212007974
it's because they run it on nVidia cards

>>212008006
there are backends using OpenCL, i asked since i am sick of the cloud providers and thought about buying 4 rx580s to run my own local LLMs since they are so cheap.

>>212008066
Ai girlfriend?

>>212008155
programming mostly, but i just want a general LLM machine, and to test an idea i had for a backend system that can automatically use multiple GPUs dynamically, so i dont have to rely on those greedy cloud GPU providers that cost more than hiring 100 indians to do all the calculations by hand.

>>212008155
AI gf can function on low GPU

USharts are living on the pump, always in the negative with their credit cards.

You cannot afford most of your stuff either.

>>212007422
I mean whatever the highest card AMD has, not something that rivals the 5090 or whatever bullshit card nvidia has. Like I have the 7900xtx which is 4080 equivalent. I’m assuming they are going to make a 9900xtx or whatever 5080 equivalent eventually but i haven’t looked into that stuff for a few years

>>212003527
you got scammed
they sell a brand new rtx4060 here for pretty much the same price

>>212008430
even a burgerflipper at mcdonalds earns at least 30k usd per year in the usa. they have barely any tax on their income.

>>212008476
Also my opinion of it not being worth it to get a 4090/5090 level card is just because I was able to build my whole pc with the 7900xtx for less than a 4090 would’ve been, and it runs any game I play at 4k/144hz. Maybe Elden ring night reign I lowered the quality for speed but idk

>>212003080 (OP)
they steal them ofc

>>212007886
thats a very good salary in blugaria

>>212003080 (OP)
It really doesn't take that much to run modern games 60/1080p. Anything past that I would consider as luxury.

>>212008263
Neeeeeeeeerrrrddd
>>212008382
Maybe, but if you want some visual desktop stuff

I just buy them second hand from people who smuggle them across the border from Hungary brand new to avoid import tariffs

>>212003080 (OP)
idk why but pc part prices in other countries are more expensive especially with the tariffs.
i recently upgraded my pc and bought a 5070ti here for $750 at a brick and mortar store

I don't, I just play League of Legends and CIV 5.

>>212009465
nibba wasted a 3000 gpu to make le funneh tiktok

>>212009567
let it dry over the weekend and it will work great.

>>212004339
>>212005251
>>212006927
>>212008430

I did Uber eats and Doordash for like 2 months, 3 hours a day, 4 days a week at most, and bought a $1.8k rig (5070ti, 9800x3d). I was a neet for a while before that, so I had literally $50 in my account before that.

>>212010246
And Sharts have audacity to complain