Thread 212012589

Is it too late to save the Irish language?

It will survive, but with anglicised grammar and pronunciation. ´

What reason is there to "save" it? Celtic nationalism is retarded.

>>212012831
That would be a shame. The velar/palatal contrast is a very kinographic aspect of Irish phonology.

We're in the 21st century let go of ethnic nationalism. There's no practical reason to learn this language

>>212012589 (OP)
No but they need to make some drastic changes. With they way things are going it will only continue to decay over time

>>212013199
Capitalism and everything that is practical in its context are in crisis and will end catastrophically in our time. The future will be Catholic-distributist and an Irish Ireland will flourish in that future. The language just needs to survive until then.

>>212012831
grim

the millions of cottagecore women putting Elvish words on everything will keep it alive. Tolkien just nicked welsh and went "no its doo doo DOO not doo DOO doo" and called it Elvish.

>>212012589 (OP)
A big part of the issue is that its used in an ideological fashion (and therefore kind of weird or nerdy) instead of just being something that everyone normal does, i.e. the popular thing to do.

Ireland has a ton of top-down promotion of Gaelic and not enough community involvement in proper towns. Welsh is doing proportionally much better because their core native speaking territory is contiguous and has actual community backing and immersion schools.

Overall if you want one single factor to look towards for language revival look at the number of students in TL-medium schools, then you’ll have a pretty accurate predictor of future speakers.

Welsh has a lot of kids in Welsh medium schools. Gaels have very little. Gaelic is dying, Welsh is growing substantially. So all it would take is the Irish government to actually take its resources and use it to found more Gaelic schools instead of teaching it as a secondary language.

>>212014492
Welsh and Gaelic sound totally different you ignorant saxon-assimilated albionoid.

>>212015865
To provide more details, about 8% of Irish students are in Gaelic schools; while about 25% of Welsh are. But a big issue in Ireland is that the government has been really lagging in supporting these schools and that demand significantly outpaces supply, while it’s outright mandatory in regions of Wales and there’s plenty of supply. What that means is you have families who WANT their kids to speak Gaelic, but simply are being failed by the Irish government and have no reasonably practical way to make that a reality.

Also the Welsh government practically privileges Welsh ability especially for public sector jobs, while Ireland doesn’t.

>>212012831
its pronunciation is already heavily anglicized
I listened to a clip of someone speaking Irish in the Irish parliament and it sounded exactly like when a monolingual English speaker reads something in a foreign language

>>212014492
>Limeys think Irish is only spoken by elves and leprechauns

If the Irish government just met existing demands for Irish medium primary schools (instead of local governments purposely blocking them and forcing parents to spend decades campaigning) it would literally be the difference between the Irish speaking population either shrinking by half or doubling by 2050.