Thread 212537378

Perfect society edition
Closed the borders: >>212526426

Good morning, sisters.

>>212528521
>You should take steroids anyway, since there are no significative negative side effects for you now.
Brother... Why do you give out advice like that...

Getting ready for a long roadtrip with coworkers. I'm driving so gotta save phone energy. Have a good one and see you later lads.
>>212537435
Morning bud. Andaluzianon just wants us to get big fast, nothing wrong with that. He just wants us to be the best version of ourselves.

>>212537378 (OP)
Subtle.

>>212537837
Good luck.

Good morning /med/.

>>212537435
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/joke

gatinho limpinho :D

>>212538419
:DD

>>212537378 (OP)
Actual BWC holster

she's cute...

I had weird ass dream that I don't want to talk about, degenerate shit, I'm just gonna say there was a lot of reckless driving involved

school boys 0.03 seconds after being elected class president:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iyxJ72G0lM

>>212537378 (OP)
>>212537435

>>212539982
Lol

Kek.

am very bored
still 7 hours left :(

Today's training:
3x1 78,75 + 77,5 + 76,25 kgs unilateral plate loaded lat pulldowns
1x6 40 kgs, 1x9 35 kgs, 1x7 30 kgs (long positive and negative taking like 8 seconds per rep) unilateral across body lat pulldowns
3x6 36 kgs (new pr) dumbbell rows
1x3 87,5 kgs, 1x4 85 kgs, 1x6 80 kgs machine low rows
1x20 40 kgs close grip palms up pulldowns for the tendinitis (mentzer ROCKED)
10 mins cardio rowing (130 kcal btfo'd)

>>212538307
Ok.
I assume you did not watch the OP webm as you did not yet call me a fascist scum. Not saying you must call me a fascist scum, but this edish was made for you no cap so you should watch it.

>>212540585
I wonder how many weeks it'd take for the European countries (not the EU) to collapse if that happened.

>>212540315
Glad you like the edish fr fr.

>>212541454
It is funny because in our case he probably saw "muh gay sex" or something and didn't realise, or care, that PL is the biggest whore for capitalism plus all the controversies and such.

>>212537378 (OP)
>brown marbles not included
based!

>>212540315
>>212541454
>>212541725
Racist scums.

>>212541454
Phobic scum

>>212538696
Mimes are scary.

>>212539096
They must hurry up and release need for speed underground 3 already.

>>212542221
Momo's nightmare 3: The videogame

>riots against immigration occur after some lovely doctors and engineers raped a girl
>meanwhile, media says that the conservative party's view of kicking out 8 millions of immigrants is "dangerous speech"
>"there isn't such a limit situation", says a socialist politician
>"this violence isn't related with skin colour! we should integrate them and invest millions for that!"

With this attitude, no wonder why they're invading us. It's over.

>>212542508
Because the media are owned by the same corporations that need cheap workers.

morning niggas, early cagie today
>>212537378 (OP)
fascist scum (nice hoe though)

>>212542508
How many of those 8 millions that Vox want to kick out are rapists or criminals in general and how many are people working?

>>212542508
>PP invited Montenegro to their conference
kek
so, what are the chances of a conservative sweep over there as well

Still feeling DOMS in my side delts since yesterday and I only really, really, really rarely get DOMS. Lean away cable lat raises are absolutely goated is all I have to say.

>>212542508
>With this attitude, no wonder why they're invading us.
It's not because of the media. Modern people are simply so cucked that they see no problem with open borders. That's what being raised by a nanny state and cucked parents who sold their country and their kids' future does to peepo. If yt peepo still experienced war instead of getting diagnosed with fake illnesses then taking mind alternating drugs, western nations would be rising, not falling.
For example, my grandpa is rather liberal leaning when it comes to war (in all other topics, he's conservative) and his first reaction is always "b-but the kids" Meanwhile his brother who lived in the middle east and was even taken as a hostage once by I think kurds did not give two fucks about "b-but the kids". Fascist scum.

>>212541631
>biggest whore for capitalism plus all the controversies and such.
Does not matter as long as they support gay rights or something.

>>212542542
>

>>212537378 (OP)
% chance she's dating an Asian chad?

>>212542708
Yes.

>>212542684
The right wing is going to win because the current government barely got enough seats as of now, have been a few years in the government which naturally will make them lose votes and have a few corruption scandals going on.
PP+Vox will have a majority of the parliament for 4 to 8 years and by then they'll have fatigued their voters, will have their own scandals going on and people will have forgotten the current government's scandals so they'll get voted again.
The 4 to 8 cycle will repeat until something like the 2008 crisis happens again.

>>212542508
pay up, chud
>>212542529
very antisemitic post
>>212542708
I actually like this flag

>>212543015
>pay up, chud
I'm tired of paying, boss

>>212542849
I wish Felipe XI did a golpe de estado and restored the monarchy. Democracy has failed

>>212543137
Aristocracy is objectively the best system but for it to work, aristocrats need to be really good at their jobs and not just rich people who became politicians.

>>212543137
Yes, what we need is a politician who is not accountable to anybody and has no built-in mechanism to leave power if he loses approval.
The thing with the monarchy is that when you make corruption legal it's no longer corruption, so the fact that they get our money to live in luxury is somehow not a problem but when anybody else does it we see clearly how it is a problem that should be fixed.
There is not a bigger cuck than a monarchist, you are the ultimate beta.

>>212543370
Even Plato knew democracy was degenerate, retard. Monarchy is superior to democracy. Monarchy is way better because the King doesn't hqve to be populist or campaign, doesn't have donors or hidden interests.
Look at Oman. Oman is a Sultanate (monarchy) and the people love their very wise Sultan.

>>212540585
Leftists are fascinating creatures :D

>>212543074
grim
>>212543458
issue is you're left to luck
if the king is great, you're okayish.... if it is a retard and/or someone weak, you're fucked

>>212543187
The best system is the one in which we rule

>>212543458
Monarchy sucks because in order to realise your ambitions if you don't belong to a royal dynasty, you have to carry out coups and slaughter all potential successors who would claim the right to rule after the king's fall...

>>212540585
>Voting for PPSOE unironically

>>212538548
:3

>>212543458
Oman may have oil, just a guess.

I wonder how Malta would've faired had the Brits not abolished the Università of Mdina (and Gozo), and we kept that system to this day.

>>212543683
Not a lot. And anyways, what? Spain is the world 12th biggest economy. It's not like we don't have any wealth. We just need a good captain to steer the ship wisely.

>>212537378 (OP)
What ethnicity/nationality is this woman?
I will find one of my own and breed it.

has it ever been more over than this ?

>>212544022
It's over.

>>212543458
>Even Plato knew democracy was degenerate, retard.
Why should I care about what Plato thought? I care about objective facts and ideas that make sense to me, and I think Plato was at many times wrong so I'm not going to change my way of thinking because Plato thought something.
>Monarchy is way better because the King doesn't hqve to be populist or campaign, doesn't have donors or hidden interests.
But they do, first even in dictatorship of any kind some level of populism is required because you can't rule when 100% of the population is against you, and generally absolute monarchies have always had hidden interests, while the kings claimed to rule for the good of the people they would always pursue their own interests and of their support groups, like how monarchies typically favoured the military class, the nobility, and the wealthy, and even worse kings have started wars over the pettiest things, kings have started wars in history many times to expand their rule and power in detriment to the common people.
>Look at Oman. Oman is a Sultanate (monarchy) and the people love their very wise Sultan.
Monarchists existing in a monarchy isn't an argument in favour of monarchy, in any country with any system there are people supporting it.

>>212541725
you are brown

>>212544022
c'est fini

>>212543683
Oman is not doing specially well economically, specially compared to other Gulf Arabic countries, but it's generally stable and doesn't face the problems many developed economies face that probably lower tensions.
Basically, when people are religious, have social support structures and there's no economic crisis then these people are going to support the status quo.

>>212543768
And why do you think Felipe is qualified to improve the economic situation in Spain?
Is he an economic genius? Does he has a plan that you think can fix Spain?

>>212543822
Answer the fucking question you lowly peasants

>>212544125
she's from kekistan

>>212544022
Ahhhh

>>212544117
>And why do you think Felipe is qualified to improve the economic situation in Spain?
>Is he an economic genius? Does he has a plan that you think can fix Spain?
He doesn't have to be subject to reelection so he can do whatever it takes to fix the country, including unpopular means. He would have a council (like in Oman) that advises him.

>>212543458
>Monarchy is superior to democracy
Strong disagree. Why should I kneel to some unelected rich cunt? Democracy means that we the people can choose who leads.
>Even Plato knew democracy was degenerate
Plato just wanted to rule everything himself. He made arguments that "philosopher kings" should rule society - he wanted all the power for himself.

plato was a gay retard who never worked a day in his life

>>212544214
>Democracy means that we the people can choose who leads.
But the people are retarded. Democracy has very strongly failed.

>>212544022
acabou

>>212544125
She is from deez nutz

>>212544125
F'għoxx ommok.

>>212544201
>He doesn't have to be subject to reelection so he can do whatever it takes to fix the country, including unpopular means.
I already addressed why not being subject to re-election doesn't mean he's not going to have preferences or hidden interests that are bad for the population nor stop populism from existing, see Russia how Putin with absolute power chose to invade Ukraine and economically damage the living of average Russians and how widespread corruption is in Russia, just to give an example.
Also, something being unpopular doesn't mean it's suddenly better or what's needed.
>He would have a council (like in Oman) that advises him.
And he would choose a council based on what criteria? If it's just his own criteria, you are putting all your eggs on the basked of having a very intelligent person who is able to choose competent people and never be mislead by people who would join this council with hidden agendas, which I think is very unlikely, and even if you have a competent king, with a hereditary monarchy eventually you'll get incompetent kings too.

>>212544262
i can attest to that. people here thought it was a good idea to elect terrorists into the government and 200k people died in the span of a decade.

>>212544061
>Why should I care about what Plato thought? I care about objective facts and ideas that make sense to me, and I think Plato was at many times wrong so I'm not going to change my way of thinking because Plato thought something.
Because he was smarter than you.
>>212544061
>But they do, first even in dictatorship of any kind some level of populism is required because you can't rule when 100% of the population is against you, and generally absolute monarchies have always had hidden interests, while the kings claimed to rule for the good of the people they would always pursue their own interests and of their support groups, like how monarchies typically favoured the military class, the nobility, and the wealthy, and even worse kings have started wars over the pettiest things, kings have started wars in history many times to expand their rule and power in detriment to the common people.
Democracy does this x100. Look all all the wars the west has had in shitholes. Nothing ever gets done about real issues like housing or aging. Democracy can only work when the populace is literate and well educated. But the people are retarded. They are cattle, the people must be herded.

>>212537378 (OP)
morning xisters

>>212544262
>But the people are retarded.
You call them retarded because they choose different from you.
With just a little bit of inspection we can see how retarded this argument is, for example, why do charos vote PSOE? It's not because they are retarded but because it benefits them, they want pensions to be maintained and increased and PSOE delivers that.
People vote based in their convictions and convenience, what party they expect to benefit them, many people who vote different to me don't do so because they are retarded but because they expect to benefit from that vote.
>Democracy has very strongly failed.
If I were to choose in countries existing nowadays, I'd much rather take most democracies than most dictatorship.
Would you rather live in Denmark or in North Korea? Obviously I chose extreme examples but if you actually analyze countries by quality of life democracies have much higher qualities of life than monarchies (that is, dictatorships).

>>212544330
>even if you have a competent king, with a hereditary monarchy eventually you'll get incompetent kings too
A few incompetent kings is way better than the permanent incompetency and shortermist thought of democracy.
>doesn't mean he's not going to have preferences or hidden interests that are bad for the population nor stop populism from existing
The preferences and incentives are minimal when compared to those of a democracy.

>>212544383
>Because he was smarter than you.
Source?
>Democracy does this x100. Look all all the wars the west has had in shitholes.
Have you ever opened a single history book? Compare the number of wars initiated by monarchies and by democracies.
>Nothing ever gets done about real issues like housing or aging.
Democracy being obviously flawed doesn't make monarchy good.
>Democracy can only work when the populace is literate and well educated. But the people are retarded. They are cattle, the people must be herded.
You might be cattle but I'm not and I won't be herded.

>>212544214
>Plato just wanted to rule everything himself. He made arguments that "philosopher kings" should rule society - he wanted all the power for himself.
He's almost literally me :D (the difference is my love for democracy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNZK4ss1pSs

>>212544443
>A few incompetent kings is way better than the permanent incompetency and shortermist thought of democracy.
"A few" is doing a lot of legwork here, how can you be sure it's going to be a few?
>The preferences and incentives are minimal when compared to those of a democracy.
How so if this person can do whatever he desires without consequences? With elections when a government is fucking up they are going to get voted out eventually, but your monarch can fuck up eternally and benefit his interests eternally.

>>212544439
>why do charos vote PSOE? It's not because they are retarded but because it benefits them, they want pensions to be maintained and increased and PSOE delivers that.
>People vote based in their convictions and convenience, what party they expect to benefit them, many people who vote different to me don't do so because they are retarded but because they expect to benefit from that vote.
Again, your argument breaks down when you realize that democracy requires very well educated and engaged populace and a degree of selflessness to be able to do what is needed, not what would feel best as soon as possible.
Would you rather live in Serbia or in Shanghai? Democracies being rich is mwrely a coincidence of the industrial revolution happening in Europe. China is not a democracy and is getting quite rich. So is Singapore.

>>212544334
found (You)r ancestors
and they were ass men

>>212544537
>Again, your argument breaks down when you realize that democracy requires very well educated and engaged populace and a degree of selflessness to be able to do what is needed, not what would feel best as soon as possible.
Who defines "what is needed"? Again, democracy being flawed doesn't make monarchy good, would democracy work better if people were better educated? Sure, I agree.
>Would you rather live in Serbia or in Shanghai?
Both are dictatorships.
>Democracies being rich is mwrely a coincidence of the industrial revolution happening in Europe. China is not a democracy and is getting quite rich. So is Singapore.
China isn't getting quite rich, China's GDP PPP per capita is similar to Ukraine's.

>>212544480
>Source?
I don't need a source for something so evident. My source is axiomatic.
>Have you ever opened a single history book? Compare the number of wars initiated by monarchies and by democracies.
In the 20th century? Democracies are way more deadly. You can't compare civilization 1000 years ago and now. Democracy has only existed sinxe recently but already has started many many wars.
>>212544480
>Democracy being obviously flawed doesn't make monarchy good.
Monarchy being obviously flawed doesn't make democracy good.
>You might be cattle but I'm not and I won't be herded.
You are herded cattle and don't even realize it. Sad!
>>212544534
>"A few" is doing a lot of legwork here, how can you be sure it's going to be a few?
Because nowadays education is very advanced and a King can learn about many topics from the best schools on Earth before ascending to the throne. Just like Oman's Sultan.
>How so if this person can do whatever he desires without consequences? With elections when a government is fucking up they are going to get voted out eventually, but your monarch can fuck up eternally and benefit his interests eternally.
Monarchs that don't deliver are often killed or deposed

>>212544602
>Who defines "what is needed"?
Well educated people.
>>212544602
>Both are dictatorships
Serbia is a democracy.
>>212544602
>China isn't getting quite rich, China's GDP PPP per capita is similar to Ukraine's.
China is getting quite rich. GDP is a meaningless metric and has been repeatedly proven to be useless irl.

>>212544262
I think a democracy is the best way to run a country. Sometimes the people might make a mistake in choosing a leader, but in a democracy, that can be corrected. The people can choose to replace that leader with someone else.

In an autocracy though, you can't replace the leader if they turn out to be bad. You're stuck with them.

>>212544334
I don't know about the situation in Algeria but some people say how Gaza deserves to be ruled by Hamas because Hamas was elected in 2006. But I think Hamas basically disregarded democracy after 2006 - I don't think Gaza has had elections since then. So that's not proper democracy. If Gaza had new free and fair elections then they might well choose to get rid of Hamas.

Like I said above (in this same post), decisions in a democracy can be corrected. If a bad government is elected, they can be replaced by the people in the next election. Unlike authoritarian countries, where you're stuck with a terrible government.

>>212544775
>In an autocracy though, you can't replace the leader if they turn out to be bad. You're stuck with them.
You just kill them

Had no idea Jones was this much of an alpha.

>>212544435
Morning he says...

People in Purtugal are already at the break from their jobs

Maybe we need the Capitano della Verga back.

>>212544835
It's not that easy is it. There have been dictators throughout history who have done awful things, and those dictators have been untouchable for long periods of time. Look at Syria where it took a long time to overthrow Assad.

>>212544661
>I don't need a source for something so evident. My source is axiomatic.
Calling your source axiomatic isn't the win you think it is, it means that you are unable to defend it.
Using a fallacy of authority and name-calling isn't going to make you win any debate, personally I'd refrain from using them.
>In the 20th century? Democracies are way more deadly. You can't compare civilization 1000 years ago and now. Democracy has only existed sinxe recently but already has started many many wars.
Democracy hasn't existed only recently, as a concept it's very old and precisely Plato critiqued it.
A dictatorship started a war in Europe not that long ago, and if we go back to 1939 you can see what a government with a permanent supreme leader can start, compare that to how Western European democracies deal when they have problems with each other nowadays.
>Monarchy being obviously flawed doesn't make democracy good.
Sure, which is why I'm explaining you why the flaws in democracy are lesser than the flaws in monarchy.
>Because nowadays education is very advanced and a King can learn about many topics from the best schools on Earth before ascending to the throne. Just like Oman's Sultan.
Today's education system would have made Carlos II a genius?
>Monarchs that don't deliver are often killed or deposed
Which is a failure of monarchy and not the other way around, people take a long time to rebel and many times when they rebel against a bad monarch it results in a civil war or a blood bath.

>>212544715
>Well educated people.
Do these people possess an objective system of values that allow them to chose what's needed? If so can you show it to me?
>Serbia is a democracy.
It isn't, Vuvic has cheated in elections multiple times.
>China is getting quite rich. GDP is a meaningless metric and has been repeatedly proven to be useless irl.
GDP precisely is a measurement of wealth, it's not the best metric for many things but the one thing it can measure is getting rich.

>>212544957
Well, Trump is doing terrible things are he was elected not once but twice. Russia is a democracy but somehow Putin is a defacto King, just like Belarus, or other democracies.

>>212545016
>Well, Trump is doing terrible things are he was elected not once but twice.
And I'm sure that among the parties that can possibly win the next Spanish elections you want Vox to be chosen.
>Russia is a democracy but somehow Putin is a defacto King, just like Belarus, or other democracies.
Russia and Belarus are dictatorships, de iure they are not, but de facto they are autocracies, that is, monarchies, only the current leader got power in a different way that coming out of a royal cunt.

>>212544257
But could you say that to him face to face on the ring while you were wrestling though.

>>212537378 (OP)
>She's racist so she's heckin based and funny!
>dumb thot sees vaguely risque joke and copies it 1:1 'but it's better cause I'm in it'

Also you guys seem to be confused.
What we have today in most countries is not democracy but parliamentarism.
Those are two very different things.
And it was a result of monarchies having to compromise because of wars happening and the monarchies losing them.
So asking for a monarchy back is not happening not because it is better or worse but because you lost and will remain as something tourists come to see and not something that rules a country.
You lost, get over it.

>>212537378 (OP)
Who is this?

>>212544985
>Calling your source axiomatic isn't the win you think it is, it means that you are unable to defend it.
I can defend it, but it would require an article and several thousand words. This is not the place for that.
>Democracy hasn't existed only recently, as a concept it's very old and precisely Plato critiqued it.
Greek democracy was different. First, ot was direct democracy. Second, it was limited to certain people. Third, it was just for city-states, not countries with millions of people.
The current form of democracy has more blood in its hands than current monarchies.
>if we go back to 1939 you can see what a government with a permanent supreme leader can start,
Hitler was elected. The uneducated masses fucked up (again).
>compare that to how Western European democracies deal when they have problems with each other nowadays.
oh you mean with regime changes? With covert assassinations? With censorship and manipulation? Playing with demographics at a scale never seen before?
>Sure, which is why I'm explaining you why the flaws in democracy are lesser than the flaws in monarchy.
Except you keep failing to show that.
>Today's education system would have made Carlos II a genius?
Carlos II wouldn't have been King today. He would have not reached the Throne. These are different times.
>Which is a failure of monarchy and not the other way around, people take a long time to rebel and many times when they rebel against a bad monarch it results in a civil war or a blood bath.
As opposed to democratic civil wars such as Spain or Yugoslavia, right?
>>212544985
>Do these people possess an objective system of values that allow them to chose what's needed?
All system of values are subjective to their own civilization. In addition, the consensus of many well educated people is often superior than the sum of the individual opinions.>>212544985
>It isn't, Vuvic has cheated in elections multiple times.
It is. You are now doing "but that was not real communism!"

>>212544985
>GDP precisely is a measurement of wealth, it's not the best metric for many things but the one thing it can measure is getting rich.
GDP is irrelevant in this day and age. Spain's GDP is growing but its quality of life is decreasing.
>>212545108
>And I'm sure that among the parties that can possibly win the next Spanish elections you want Vox to be chosen.
Not really. I don't like them.
>>212545108
>Russia and Belarus are dictatorships,
No true scotsman fallacy. Russia and Belarus are democracies. Russia and Belarus are examples of what democracy can reach.

@Andalucia
Do you PERSONALLY prefer doing pullups with a shoulder width grip or a wider than shoulder width grip?

>>212544321
Maltese is so disorienting to me.
It's always unreal to witness.

>>212545115
I could kill plato with my bare hands

>>212544022
É o fim.

>>212545016
>>212545108
>Trump is doing terrible things are he was elected not once but twice
The American system is not properly democratic because they give more weight to votes in rural, sparsely populated states. This is an effect of their electoral college system, where every state gets at least 3 electoral college votes, even if their small population dictates they should actually only get 1 or 2 such votes.

As for Russia and Belarus, yes they are de facto not democratic. E.g. there are videos of ballot boxes being stuffed in Russia. And political opposition gets you jailed in Russia - e.g. a man was sentenced to prison because his daughter drew an anti-war drawing: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65129231

Also look at what happened to Alexei Navalny - he was poisoned by Russia's FSB security service. We know that happened. Navalny spoke to one of the FSB agents behind the poisoning on the phone, and the agent admitted to what he had done (because Navalny pretended to be a senior official in the FSB).

>>212545377
liar

>>212544321
lol rude!
kif inti? in hobbok

Anyways so I played the first and introductory level of Robocop.
Sadly no screenshots yet because I forgot to enable game overlay and without it steam can't take screenshots apparently.
The game does a good job making you feel that you control a heavy robots.
The gunplay is satisfying when you're using your basic gun but when you pick off the guns of your dead enemies, the shooting feels casually made and not befitting an expensive game.
But the gore is there and the story is pleasant enough, it keeps that eighties movie feel effectively.

>>212545268
>I can defend it, but it would require an article and several thousand words. This is not the place for that.
If you actually need so many words to defend something then I don't think it's that axiomatic.
>Greek democracy was different. First, ot was direct democracy. Second, it was limited to certain people. Third, it was just for city-states, not countries with millions of people.
Direct democracy is not practical for big countries yes, but it's about the concept, rule of many versus rule of one person, not about the exact implementation.
>The current form of democracy has more blood in its hands than current monarchies.
You disregard when monarchies nowadays such as Russia start wars, you disregard historical data that doesn't fit your perspective, you basically are convinced of your point of view and disregard anything against it.
>Hitler was elected. The uneducated masses fucked up (again).
Until he wasn't and created a monarchy.
Besides, he actually didn't get more than half of the votes, he got around 1/3 and later once he became chancellor used flimsy excuses to increase his power.
>oh you mean with regime changes? With covert assassinations? With censorship and manipulation?
I said among themselves instead of relating to third world countries, besides most democracies don't start regime changes, that's a USA, France, UK thingy.
>Playing with demographics at a scale never seen before?
Yes, a monarchy never would have for example taken minorities and exterminating them.
>Except you keep failing to show that.
I showed you how people living in democracies have on average more wealth, they also have higher quality of life and more freedoms.
>Carlos II wouldn't have been King today. He would have not reached the Throne. These are different times.
It was an example to show that a monarchy can easily breakdown if the person at the top is not capable.

>>212545460
Literally tunisianspeak

>>212545566
we don't speak GAYrab, sorry

>>212545268
>All system of values are subjective to their own civilization. In addition, the consensus of many well educated people is often superior than the sum of the individual opinions.
So you agree with me no objective system of values can be agreed upon.
Now the logical conclusion of this is that a minority of people can't find what's needed.
>It is. You are now doing "but that was not real communism!"
Serbia is obviously a dictatorship dude, they have an autocratic system, a rule of one.

>>212545340
>GDP is irrelevant in this day and age. Spain's GDP is growing but its quality of life is decreasing.
Yes but you talked about wealth in regards to China.
Quality of life in democracies is on average higher than on dictatorships.
>Not really. I don't like them.
They are too soft for you I suppose.
>No true scotsman fallacy. Russia and Belarus are democracies. Russia and Belarus are examples of what democracy can reach.
Democracies can end and become dictatorships yes, and once they become dictatorships they are no longer democracies.

>>212545342
A bit wider than my shoulders.

>>212545701
Quality of life in the gullies is so bad, I know.

Changing topic, in the end I won't have to visit Argentina, I've been saved from it because my cousin brought over some money we wanted to get from there.

>>212545726
Gulfies

>>212545732
>saved
You missed an opportunity to visit another place, how is that being saved?

>>212545701
>So you agree with me no objective system of values can be agreed upon. Now the logical conclusion of this is that a minority of people can't find what's needed.
No, because objectivity is unnecessary to find what is needed. Objectivity doewn't even exist except in math and logic.
>Serbia is obviously a dictatorship
Russia, Belarus, and Serbia are democracies. You may not like it, but they are democracies.
>They are too soft for you I suppose.
No, I just don't agree with them. Notice how you are trying to redefine any democracy that doesn't fit your argumwnt as "not democracy"

>>212545726
They are wealthy but simply put do you rather be an average person in Saudi Arabia or in Portugal? Saudi Arabia is richer sure but you'd probably choose Portugal because that way you don't have to follow Islam or hide yourself every time you want to drink a beer.

>>212545802
>Russia, Belarus, and Serbia are democracies.
Russia and Belarus are factually not democracies

>>212544775
Brother they elected the equivalent of the taliban there wouldn't have been any votes next time

>>212545802
>No, because objectivity is unnecessary to find what is needed. Objectivity doewn't even exist except in math and logic.
You can't define that something is needed without a system of values to choose, if the system is subjective then there's no way to choose one or the other except for personal preference, therefore there's no reason why I would want to be subjected to the one chosen by a tiny minority of people.
>Russia, Belarus, and Serbia are democracies. You may not like it, but they are democracies.
They are not and your refusal to accept it shows that you argue in bad faith.
>No, I just don't agree with them.
Surprised, who would you prefer to govern from the mainstream parties in Spain?
>Notice how you are trying to redefine any democracy that doesn't fit your argumwnt as "not democracy"
I don't, there are democracies where the elected leaders choose to start wars and people supported it, like the US with Afghanistan and Iraq, but the number of wars historically started by democracies is lower and even nowadays where democracies are more common they start less wars than dictatorships.

>>212545785
It's expensive and I don't want to meet my family, I barely know them so it would be uncomfortable.

>>212545897
Read the second link.

>>212545818
Average person in Saudi Arabia, they’re richer than us. If I was a Saudi I’d be Muslim, it’s only natural.

>>212545964
So you rather follow a religion blindly? Cuck shit.

>>212545911
>a system of values to choose
The system of values is the Western system of values, which itself is relative to universality.
>They are not and your refusal to accept it shows that you argue in bad faith.
See >>212545897
Also, how come Navalny rallied for presidency if Russia is not a Democracy?
>Surprised, who would you prefer to govern from the mainstream parties in Spain?
Escaños en Blanco.
>I don't
Yes you are. Proofs in the images.

>>212545999
I’d be born a Saudi, I’d be brought up in Islam and I’d be rich and have all the amenities in the world, of course I wouldn’t are if I was born a Muslim, I’d see it as god’s gift kek

>>212545948
>Read the second link.
The second link says Serbia is a democracy. What is it that you do not understand?

>>212545377
don't think so, dude was supposedly jacked af

>>212540585
>chp
>left

>>212546030
>The system of values is the Western system of values, which itself is relative to universality.
If it's subjective as you admitted there's no reason to choose this over others, besides nobody argues on what Western values really are.
>See >>212545897 #
You are deflecting by refering your previous argument I already countered.
Serbia was a parliamentary democracy after the people in power cheated, then it's no longer a democracy, you can read about it in the second link in the image you provided.
>Also, how come Navalny rallied for presidency if Russia is not a Democracy?
You mean the guy Putin put in prison and then killed because he was becoming a threat?
>Escaños en Blanco.
I said mainstream party.

>>212546055
So if you had been born Saudi you wouldn't have been able to think for yourself and see that religion is bollocks?

>>212546065
These rankings about democracy are coy and wait for widespread proof, that's why they use the language they are using, but as they say Vuvic eroded that democratic system, now it's no longer democratic de facto even if it is de iure.

>>212546055
Based

>>212546168
>you wouldn't have been able to think for yourself and see that religion is bollocks?
People believe in a lot of things that can be considered bollocks. It's not just religion that people follow blindly without giving it a second thought.
>I don't want to meet my family, I barely know them so it would be uncomfortable.
Why do you think meeting them would be uncomfy? I'd love to meet my relatives living in 'merica.

>>212546168
>I said mainstream party.
Escaños. En. Blanco. I would not vote for any mainstream party.
>You mean the guy Putin put in prison and then killed because he was becoming a threat?
Yeah, that guy. It sure sucks to live in a democracy so cruel and with such low value for life.
>You are deflecting by refering your previous argument I already countered.
You didn't.
>Serbia was a parliamentary democracy after the people in power cheated, then it's no longer a democracy, you can read about it in the second link in the image you provided.
Serbia is a democracy though. Is, in the present. Just because they are doing things you don't like it doesn't mean they are not.

>>212546247
True, religion is but one among many spooks.

>>212546168
>So if you had been born Saudi you wouldn't have been able to think for yourself and see that religion is bollocks?
You are unable to understand Theory of Mind.

>>212546168
I’d see the bollocks but ignore them, because I’d see them as positive for society at large.
Saudis can drink and have their wives show tits on the beach now anyway. Or if no wife I could always buy an ukranian girl and shit on her chest. Or I could travel to wherever.

>>212546247
>People believe in a lot of things that can be considered bollocks. It's not just religion that people follow blindly without giving it a second thought.
I agree.
>Why do you think meeting them would be uncomfy? I'd love to meet my relatives living in 'merica.
Very neurotypical coded question.

>>212546259
>Escaños. En. Blanco. I would not vote for any mainstream party.
I didn't ask you who you will vote, I asked you which of the mainstream parties do you think is the less bad option.

I will stop answering to your opinions regarding wether Russia, Belarus and Serbia are democracies or not, you don't argue in good faith.

>>212546290
Source?

>>212545869
But if you have a properly functioning democracy then there will always be regular, fair, and free elections. So even if voters do elect an extreme government, that government can be replaced. This is why I think democracy is better than autocracy.

Also if a country has proportional representation then it's unlikely that an extreme government would be elected. Extreme parties don't normally get over 50% of the vote.

>>212546332
>Or I could travel to wherever.
Precisely, you'd want to leave that shithole unless you were Muslim.

>>212540585
Seems like he just really likes roses (and a poppy)

>>212543137
Least cucked Francoist

>>212546424
Not leave, vacation.

>>212544022
È finita

>>212546439
And a torch.

>>212546378
>Source?
Source:
" >>212546168
>So if you had been born Saudi you wouldn't have been able to think for yourself and see that religion is bollocks?
"
>I didn't ask you who you will vote, I asked you which of the mainstream parties do you think is the less bad option.
And I told you that I would never ever vote for any of them except Escaños en Blanco.
>>212546378
>I will stop answering to your opinions regarding wether Russia, Belarus and Serbia are democracies or not, you don't argue in good faith.
You may not like it, but imperfect and failed democracies are still democracies.

>>212546456
I'm not Franquista. I don't support the Falange nor the ideas of Franco.

>>212546378
>Very neurotypical coded question.
Rude innit

>>212546532
I don't think your source proof what you are trying to proof.
>And I told you that I would never ever vote for any of them except Escaños en Blanco.
You deflect from answering my question again.
My question is that among the mainstream parties which party would you rather have? Or spelt in a different way, which is the less bad option in your opinion?
It's very simple.

>>212546555
T. Never faced the sun in a new shirt

>>212546555
Franco was a monarchist.

>>212546583
>You deflect from answering my question again.
>My question is that among the mainstream parties which party would you rather have? Or spelt in a different way, which is the less bad option in your opinion?
>It's very simple.
I already told you that is is a false dichotomy. I would never vote for any of them. Vox are Trumpists, PP=PSOE are inept corrupts with no actual ideology except status quo, Sumar=Podemos are Thirdworldists

>>212546661
There are many kinds of monarchy

>>212546698
You deflect again.

>>212546724
Sure, how does that affect my argument? Besides, the Francoist regime is exactly what you want, a person with absolute power who consulted people to govern.

>>212546780
>You deflect again.
No. You want to force me into a false choice and I am just not falling for it.
>>212546780
>Sure, how does that affect my argument? Besides, the Francoist regime is exactly what you want, a person with absolute power who consulted people to govern.
Monarchy just means power is concentrated in one person. It just states the scheme of power. It doesn't say anything about ideas or guidance.

>>212546780
Perhaps you should review https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy first

>>212546532
>You may not like it, but imperfect and failed democracies are still democracies.
Russia isn't a democracy though, their elections are rigged

>>212546836
>No. You want to force me into a false choice and I am just not falling for it.
Pussy.
>Monarchy just means power is concentrated in one person. It just states the scheme of power.
Yes, and that's what you want.
>It doesn't say anything about ideas or guidance.
Exactly, because if power is concentrated in one person then the ideas and guidance is entirely at the whims of that person.

@Grok is this true?

>>212546870
>A monarchy is a form of government in which a person, the monarch, reigns as head of state for the rest of their life, or until abdication.
That fits for Franco, there are different kind of monarchies but >>212543137 proposes a absolutist monarchy basically.

>>212546886
>elections are rigged
Rigged elections are only possible in a democrcy because only democrqcies have elections.

>>212546932
>but >>212543137 (You) # proposes a absolutist monarchy basically.
There are many kinds of absolute and constitutional monarchy. Read on them, not just headlines.

>meowdy purrtners
:D

Guys I have something to say, it was me debating with myself all along, I hope you enjoyed

This is my opinion on monarchy

>>212547192
Based.

>>212547192
Did anarchists even believe in Democracy? Bizarre set of people

>>212547427
Not in parliamentary democracy, but Anarcho-communists do propose a system where the people are in power.
They basically tried very hard to call a state by a different name, they wanted communal organization.

an uppity nigger chimped out at work and we had him escorted off by the security guard
I am also more racist now and will vote Chega ou algo

>>212547703
Muito basado

>>212547505
what if the people collectively vote to implement a system where every 4 years everyone comes together to choose representatives that will run certain functions of society on the behalf of the people?

Hiking time

magyarbro...

>>212549458
Where is the penis?

>>212549458
Damn

>>212549458
She's obese.

>>212547703
fascist scum

>>212546982
Rigged elections aren't elections though, just like a plastic plant isn't actually a plant

>>212547128
Excellent post

>>212537378 (OP)
what's her name again? I used to follow her and jerk off to her but can't remember

>>212549787
Escoria fascista.

>>212550073
*escória
the accent is important, tho personally I prefer
>>212549787
escumalha fascista

>>212550167
No, it's escoria.

>>212550203
nuh uh

>>212550167
Escória is portuguese. Escoria is spanish. Simple as.

balls in summer be like

>>212542529
They also said "they do the jobs local people don't want!". They need modern slaves.
>>212542567
Idk but that's a populist measure and one of the reasons I dislike Vox. At least they warn about the doom we go to.
>>212542684
PP are a bunch of mild clowns.
>>212542708
Even those leftists who have been victims of the foreign hordes keep defending the invasion. "Let's not be racist!".

Good day med am back from the cagie, I was alone for a change, tomorrow I'll be fugged though.

Also fed Blackie and alos got my first white beard hair VGH.

Wasted another day.
Would wage a bit more but I don't feel like doing that so instead I'm going to gaym. Last time I gaymed was 51 days ago according to Steam. Manchildbros... We lost...

>>212550587
Mine look just like that except with even less hair as I shaved off my pubes today fr fr.

>>212551199
>first white beard hair
You're a big boi now, momo.

>>212551266
You've been watching too much anime lately so you don't play videogames.

>>212551309
I've only watched 14 or 15 episodes so far though and an episode only lasts 20-ish minutes (watched like 5 eps yesterday fr fr). I can't blame my crippling tranime addiction for not gayming.

>>212549525
are you absolutely sure you want to see that?

>>212551266
More like a grandpa and not even in the 30s

Top of the mountain reached

>>212551199
Unc status achieved

>>212551704
Beautiful, that beach on the left looks cozy, wanna visit there ?
>>212551771
I successfully cut the white hair

>>212551199
cut the crap momo, you're just a kid
>>212551693
>like a grandpa
oh my sweet summer child

>>212551693
>More like a grandpa
You're still a babby.
There's nothing wrong with having a grey strand of hair here or there though. I have had 2 strands of grey hair since I was like 11.

>>212551704
comfy.

>>212551960
I'm still immature and look younger than my age
>>212551961
It wasn't grey it was completely white

>>212547427
I don't care much for anarchism, I care more for the assassination of politicians

>>212552459
>I care more for the assassination of politicians
You are now on a CIA watch list

>>212552459
based
>>212552772
>now
nigga, everyone that browses this place is already on the list

>>212551946
>wanna visit there ?
I actually slept there with Gironde and send /med/ a pic where the red arrow goed, wonder if he can remember the place from up here

>>212552957
Either on the list, or putting people on it eheh.

>>212553020
>twinko spends years lusting and never managing
>gman casually sleeps with galicianon like it’s nothing
Damn.

Buenos dias pinche cerdos

>>212553301
Gman met half of medders already

>>212553020
>I actually slept there with Gironde
>>212553186
fair

>>212553301
what a slut

>>212553020
> actually slept there with Gironde
I see.

@Andalucia
I need your help again. Rate these animes for me so I know if they are worth watching or not. No need to QRD or anything at all, just either APPROVE or DISAPPROVE or something my nigga. Or use a scale of 1-10, idk.
Youjo Senki
Attack on titan
Tokyo Ghoul
Death note
Spy x family
rascal does not dream of bunny girl senpai
kaguya-sama love is war
Also, while you're at it, you should do the most anti-fascist thing possible, and post today's numbers.

>>212554363
Above all, he’s OUR slut.

>post zesty shit
>infect other /med/ders with the zest
I have succeeded.

>>212554989
Gman and Gniño met before you came here THOUGH.

>>212554989
MK Ultra mf

>>212554989
Patient Zestero

>>212554989
>Jew enters the thread
>Spreads faggotry
The memes write themselves at this point.

>>212555163
FALSE. I even 'member when one of the /med/ niggas drew a pic of galicia picking up gironde at the airport or gartic phone.

>>212555180
kek

>>212555553
Lmao

>Lather myself with sun cream to avoid getting burnt again
>Put sun cream again mid hike
>Take off excess cream from hands
I now have a burnt hand, fuck the summer
Also my fat friend went hiking with me and almodt collapsed from exhastion, the toxic gf now lets him go out
>>212554857
M-me or Gironde?
>>212555431
You were not here in May of 2023

>>212554855
>Youjo Senki
Haven't watched.
>Attack on titan
Very enjoyable, the ending is probably the worst part though which always sours it a bit, I read the manga and didn't watch the anime ending but apparently they fixed it a little so the overall experience in the anime is way better.
>Tokyo Ghoul
Haven't watched, also it has a weird thing where some of the seasons of the anime weren't canon to the manga so then when the anime came back they omitted some aspects of the manga that weren't shown in the anime so it's very confusing.
>Death note
Great entry level anime, I don't mean this as a bad thing is just that I think it's an anime that non-anime fans can get into easily and it's not hard to get.
>Spy x family
Haven't' watched it.
>rascal does not dream of bunny girl senpai
Only watched the first season and the movie, then the anime took too long to come back and I stopped with it, but when I was watching it I enjoyed it and they don't pussyfoot around the relationship between the main characters which is refreshing to see in an anime.
>kaguya-sama love is war
Great anime, I went on to read the manga but I still watched the new seasons as they came on because I don't mind watching something that I already know how it's going to turn around.
Kaguya made /a/ seethe, that was great.

>Also, while you're at it, you should do the most anti-fascist thing possible, and post today's numbers.
I just warmed up for squats and left, that's how I deload, I'm deloading to be fresh to try the 220 kg squat this Saturday.

>>212555553
Fascist scum.

>>212542764
Maybe 0.5%

>>212541725
Those are m&ms

>>212556549
me? of course not

>>212540585
all scandis have a rose party?

>>212555867
>You were not here in May of 2023
I wasn't. But I clearly remember you picking up gspotman at the airport, so I assume you two have met at least twice by now?

>>212556511
Thanks for taking the time to write a long ass blogpost instead of just saying APPROVED or DISAPPROVED btw.
>I just warmed up for squats and left, that's how I deload
Powershitting is truly something else. I could never do something like that fr fr. Did 3 max effort lat pulldowns today and I just don't enjoy 1 rep lifts it seems. Then again, why would I enjoy a 1 rep pulldown. Maybe a squat would be different (still not deadlifting though).

>>212557361
>But I clearly remember you picking up gspotman at the airport,
No, you obviously don't as I only met Gironde once

>>212557361
Maybe you are not used to 1 rep lifting and after a bit you would find the enjoyment.

Democracyfags BTFO
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/04/young-europeans-losing-faith-in-democracy-poll-finds

>>212557683
Interesting.
I do remember though. Maybe I was already lurking here in May, but not posting regularly idk. I even remember that gman posted on /med/ stating that he had arrived in Spain.
Or I time travelled. That's some schizo shit.

>>212557747
Maybe. Higher risk of injury is something I dislike though.

>>212557863
>the guardian
DROPPED

>>212540585
In other words he wants to tear Sweden down as quickly as possible

>>212538646
kek a classic

>>212557863
>theguardian
jej

>>212557990
>>212558364
you are both low iq, it's data from a YouGov survey

I counted the dollars we got and dollars feel third world tier for money, really thin with barely any texture to them.

>>212558865
rude and uncalled

Fucking Trump dropped the value of the dollar like 10%, he manages to fuck with Latinos even in Spain.

>>212537378 (OP)
>me in the beginning
>:|
>me after the twist
:)

>>212555867
Gironde kek
You’re just our cute homobait.

>>212559098
>not shorting the dollar when it's clearly overvalued
NGMI

>>212559098
>he manages to fuck with Latinos even in Spain.
Based, latinos go home o algo

I look like this

>>212559458
Where are the stamps in the hat?

>>212559458
Post body

>>212559353
Do you think the dollar will drop more?

My parents decided to befriend my last ex’s parents and now they keep coming to their home to dine with them.
Is this some kind of sick joke?

>>212559505
not the same hat desu
>>212559589
post body

>>212559682
Never happened to me, perks of being an incel ig.

VGH the bread with olive oil roasting on the fire…

>>212559684
I said it before, you can't do that

>>212559682
At least your ex doesn't come with them, r-right?

>>212559621
Absolutely no idea tbf. Like it was possible to tell it was going to devalue at the start of the Trump administration, but not so easy to tell right now. USD/EUR is currently trading at 0.85 as of today so if you forced me to guess, I'd say I doubt I'd drop below around 0,82.
Then again, forex trading, just like crypto, is something that I don't think I'll ever do. I rather wouldn't.

>>212559682
Fucking fakecel.

>>212560045
>I doubt I'd drop
I doubt it'd drop*
Then again, fuck knows what's to come.

>>212559684
>post body
Your turn now.

>>212560143
Time to cut

>>212560273
No bully please.

>>212537378 (OP)
hot women are based now wtf??

Good night, sisters.
Wanted to watch an episode of tranime, but the host server is down. So fucking over imc, guess I'll just dream about watching anime o algo.

>>212560143
>not having to turn sideways to walk out the door
NGMI

>>212560326
Good night zesty boy

>>212559796
Sesso

>>212560288
You must be eating like 3000kcal at maintenance or so no?

>>212560143
Translucent

>>212560384
Idk no exactly I think less than that.

>>212560386
I'm brown and will always be brown.

think this is enough feet to get a (You) from catnigga?

>>212560518
The catnigga-bot can't proccess images, it won't give you a (you)

>>212560587
>can't proccess images
Videos*

>>212560010
Right, thankfully.

>>212560143
H I P P A
I
P
P
A

>>212560350
Mackerel on the left, sardine on the right.

>>212560716
La sofferenza è un concetto sconosciuto a casa tua

>>212551704
>>212553020
Based! I recognized it instantly!
You're actually at the place you pointed to me back then, right? With the dark rock or something?
So cool to recall so many good memories over the long walk we did in only one pic.

>>212560143
Don't tell me you're the guy that lifts so heavy in these threads.

>>212560716
Magyaranon is less zesty than you.

>>212560784
I am, are you disappointed?
I'm stronger than I look.

Ġerrejtu

>>212560753
The fish had little fat, so I suffered (but just a tiny bit).

>>212560798
kek

>>212560852
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

>>212560918
Yng Nghymru maen nhw'n rhywio defaid ddwywaith yr wythnos

>>212560143
bungus

>>212560975
What did you mean by this?

>>212560957
Enough malteese for me for today

Drove the whole day and then kept up with the business meeting. Heavy stuff but I managed it.
>>212559152
I'm not a whore, I do it for free!

>>212561090
Good job Gironde

>>212561090
>I do it for free
so, a cheap whore lmao

good to know that at least someone had a decent day at the cagie today

>>212561021
big bungus chungus
ya heard

>>212561090
>I'm not a whore, I do it for free!
zesty ahh quote is reminding me of a thing I heard in a movie
>wives are the worst prostitutes of all, sell themselves too cheap!
said by that movie's version of jack the ripper btw

>>212561500
Post body.

Me

>>212561557
Is this a fascist scum bar ?

>>212561584
Oui

>>212561584
more like the fascists cum bar lmao gottem

>>212561557
looking good, mate
>>212561584
not at all, why did you get this impression?

>>212561090
>I do it for free
Honesty should really be cherished eheh.

>>212537378 (OP)
Apparently, there was an anon who posted under the Bouvet Island flag, found it in the archives.

>>212537378 (OP)
based thot

>>212561556
with all due respect to the man but I wouldn't want the magyaroid choking his turkey to it
I understand how galicoid feels now

What's your favourite type of pasta right now /med/ ?

For me it's these

>>212560759
Yes, the mountaintop that we could see south of Fisterra

>>212562169
Fdewwex.

>>212562169
fettuccine

went out with my friend on a walk through the seaside, pretty comfy very good weather today. watched conclave with him after and then ate his mother's panados theyre very good
overall pretty good day

>>212562702
Pandos more like nosufferingnados.

>>212562169
Bigoli

>>212562702
and how was work

>>212563600
work?

>>212562702
>>212563822
>suffering
>Portugal

>>212564031
i suffer a lot thougheverbeit

AYO SHUT IT DOWN

>>212564280
oy vey

>>212564280
grok is anti semetic now?

>>212564392
Literally >>212555553

>>212564396
No, he's not against iraqis, lebanese, jordanians, syrians, neither palestinians or mizrahi.

>>212564280
@gork is this true?

>>212564280
Hahahaha :D
Leftist Jews are funny