Thread 213123381

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Twitter chuds really love to gloat about this for some reason

>>213123381 (OP)
koreans have to face competition from chinese, so they need to lower their wages more tbqh

>>213123411
it is pretty funny
spain even has superior weather
no wonder koreans kill themselves so often, their entire existence is basically a cosmic prank

for a country that has literally NO natural resources, no tourist industry, no imperial assets, i think we are trying our best
i wonder what would happen if oil disappears one day in saudi arabia or belgium moves to the middle of nowhere in east asia

>>213123381 (OP)
Based Spain

>>213123381 (OP)
Spain had the resources of their colonies. South Korea built itself out of nothing.

>>213123411
>>213123472
Don't forget they have like 0.41 birthrate atm and their society is a feminist wet dream

>>213123483
China can do anything korea does foir a fraction of the price. You dont even have the advantage of having distance to partially protect you from China, It's over

>>213123519
look up the price tags of brand new xiaomi flagship phones. they are just as expensive as samsung or apple. same with their EVs, home appliances, and so on. zanussi sucks btw

>>213123381 (OP)

heh

It's impossible to have children in Korean society. The entire country will collapse within a few decades

>>213123492
spain got so many resources they had a sever economic crash
they too had to build up again
the just did it slower with more free time

>>213123648
Same could be said about any western nation

>>213123483
european countries are not known for their abundance of resources

>>213123794
*swiss gold reserves*
*major companies that own mines*

>>213123831
>foreign cold
>oversea mines
yeah. now what?

>>213123492
Anything we had was lost during the XIX century after endless civil wars and a deeply idiotic leadership. The 1936 civil war was the last nail in the coffin, we were literally poorer than pretty much all of our ex-colonies for decades.

>>213123853
>imperical assets

>>213123688
Not at all because we have actual good work-life balance. The birthrate here could be better but it's not because having children is almost impossible here. Instead, a lot of people just don't want kids by choice.

Woke up at 1030 today cause fuck it i wanted to sleep a lil bit just opened my work laptop gonna write a bit of code then enjoy a beer in the sun from my countryside home

Ahh... life in the Mediterranean. It is what it is

>>213123483
I feel like that excuse works better for Argentina, Australia and New Zealand. You're right next door to the giant market that is China and just across from Japan.

>>213123861
Everyone in the early 00s used to say that Spain is like a time capsule because of the dictatorship. Like, the street fashion and stuff was just 30 years out of date and young people had views and attitudes you'd expect from grandparents.

>>213123908
Seems like the massive cope

>>213123861
you never thanked the Eu though

>>213123944
Can i move there bro?

>>213123586
Because Samsung phones are shit and LG is dead.

>>213124024
we net payers now

>>213124090
good, start paying me now

>>213123908
>a lot of people just don't want kids by choice
lmao for you for thinking it's not the same here. Of course the young people gonna say it's the cost of living in their defense but in reality no one wants the responsibility here

>>213124090
yeah and we are currently in a recession
pay up juan
i want your money

>>213124011
>You're right next door to the giant market that is China and just across from Japan
Do you think we have EU-style free market access or something lmao EU is definitely a hugh prop up for their economy

>>213123861
venezuela is so fucking grim

>>213123908
>don't want kids by choice
biggest cope ever, everyone wants kids
they think they don't because they're preoccupied with drugs or consuming media (all part of the plan btw)

>>213124199
it's kind of scary how quickly a whole country can go south

>>213123831
>*major companies that own mines*
>tf
>tp

>>213124296
what happened in the 80s in spain?

>>213124389
We were an autarchy from the end of the civil war (1939) to around the beggining of the 60s which is when the economy started opening up to the rest of the world. In the 80s we got into the european economic community and eventually into the EU

>>213124389
they joined the Eu
>>213124024

>>213124059
LG is as prominent in the home appliance market as ever before and samsung phones are doing well
>>213124011
china is the honey trap of the global trade. at first it looks like a giant market as you put it but they have fuck tons of domestic regulations for foreign capital and as time moves on when you open your eyes one day all of your trade secrets have been compromised and then their joint venture basically throws you away once you are useless to them. you realize they churn out your products 5x cheaper and you are now kicked out of the said market

>>213123381 (OP)
Do one for Japan too.

>>213123794
britain and scandinavia have oil rigs, france and pretty much all continental europe has a fertile land that feeds the world population.

>>213123381 (OP)
>>213123411
Erm where does this "Koreans don't get paid for over time" meme even come from. Like this doesn't even have any roots. Misinformation and sensationalizion on S.Korea is actually hilariously insane I just gave up at this point

>>213124794
success breeds jealousy

>>213123381 (OP)
>>213123411
its more shills shilling as usual. They capped the max hours to 52 a week (40 regular and 12OT max). This is even applied to small and medium businesses. The only exceptions are for things like hospitals that typical do the 36 hour shifts and what not.

>>213123411
>84 hours a week with no overtime

>>213123381 (OP)
>>213123472
>sup vpn shills

>>213124586
you have fertile lands too
most of us dont have oil

The only country left in East Asia with shit work to death hours is Japan.

Even the Chinese government cut down on the 996 working culture.

>>213124812
Probably some weird new stereotype they are trying push. weird ideas they originally got from China and trying to apply to Korea or smth.

>>213124883
Korea is 70% mountainous rest being hilly asf cockblocked by NK up north
Europeans have free common market access to large countries that benefited from resource extraction and generational wealth. east asia we don't have that shit.

Didn't I debunk this stupid Spain vs korea shit?

>>213123381 (OP)
>>213123411
Doesn't Japan have the exact absolute same issue?
>Japan good
>Korea bad

>>213123381 (OP)
powerful

Why do Koreans think their country is sane
when there is a hell next door?

>>213124220
you’re retarded

>>213123381 (OP)
Is Spain celebrating the fact that they were overtaken in GDP by a country that industrialized 200 years after they did, and only recently regained their superior GDP?

>>213125112
Both China and Korea addressed their working hours and birth rates issues (at least Korea did) and only Japan is left behind their neighbors.

Its just interesting the very thing that only currently goes on in Japan gets attributed to Korea. Seems very 'organic'.

>>213124090
DAS RITE MEDBOI, PAY US GERMANICS DEM REPERASIONS

>>213126288
So EU is bunch of gayropeans sucking dick to each other? Nah, I'm good
Imagine giving money to other nations because we are in the same continent. Couldn't be me.

>>213125083
the south korean currency has lost like 30% of its value against the euro over the past 5 years. Old data.

>>213126350
>t. works 84 hours a week for minimum wage and kills himself when people post a league of legends emote making fun of his smoll pp
yeah miss me with that shit, I hope Kim nukes you worst-koreans

>>213126407
ziggers will liberate you before that pierre

holy who triggered the squid gamer? shouldnt be shitpostin this much or your samsung foreman will dock your pay

>>213126556
the same happen to jap posters.
I posted this one >>213123638 a week ago and I triggered 2 or 3 autists who started talking about how they have more billionaires per capita and how GDP numbers are fudged

>>213126687
Japanese and Polish posters are one of the most unhinged posters here, enough to criticize either country to spawn a random schizo that was fortunate enough to be present to defend honor of his shithole

>>213126782
which is why this edit exists.

>>213126397
Thats commonly done by all countries that depend heavily on exports; they devalue their currency to gain a trade advantage on price. These countries even get accused of being currency manipulators by other export dependent countries who do the same thing.

>>213126506
yes, in exactly 2 more weeks after 3 more days in Ukraine

>>213123381 (OP)
But Spain started from a higher base to begin with.

>>213123381 (OP)
>>213127881
GDP per capita.
What am I missing?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-per-capita-worldbank?tab=line&country=ESP~KOR&mapSelect=ESP~KOR

>>213123381 (OP)
>>213127881
>>213127944
This lines up with an objective measure of living standards, life expectancy.

>>213123381 (OP)
>>213127881
>>213127944
>>213128004
Why would you even gloat about this?

>>213125083
>germany 40% taxes
I genuinely couldn't articulate why I even bother working. And it's only gonna get higher

>>213123381 (OP)
My uncle lives in Almeria region for more than a decade now
Recently talked to him and he said things are really moving in a positive direction for around 3 years now

>>213124812
>>213124918
it's because both the left and the right in the west use korea as a twisted mirror projecting their own issues onto it. and keep in mind, they're western retards in a morally and creatively bankrupt culture whose only outlet is to cope and seethe so their only image of any country is what they see on 4chins and X. the funniest irony is that almost every criticism levied at korea is equally as bad if not worse in their own cunts, maybe w the exception of birthrate and competition level.

Luv me Korea
Luv me Spain
Simple as

>>213125348
What the fuck are you on about, Kim?

There is no word in the spanish language that would describe any sort of mental anguish or suffering.
Sure, you might suffer from an illness but that's about it. The Spanish just lack the concept of suffering

>>213128468
>2017
kek

>>213123483
Cure cat frfr

>>213124858
>from 0.3 to 0.31

>>213128116
man how fucked must south korea be if we have larger numbers than them with such a high unemployment lmaoo

Azn working culture is probably the worst in the world. Performative overworking and useless rituals with very little actual output per hour.

>>213128667
>As of 2022, Colombia, Mexico, and Costa Rica ranked the highest number of hours worked per year. Greece ranked the highest In EU with 1886 average hours per year, while Germany ranked the lowest with 1340 average hours worked respectively.
>Japan and Canada ranked lowest amongst non-European countries.
kek indeed.

I just wanted to say that I woke up from a 3 hour long siesta
literally fuck working lol, nothing is real about the modern economy

>>213129007
The inclusion of part time workers makes this graph kind of useless.

>>213128116
Spain mogging hard. Beating Korea even with 15% vs 3% unemployment rate.

>>213129271
But they aren't. Spain's higher GDP is probably explained by the sheer number of young immigrants driving consumption with the average Spaniard seeing zero wealth gains from this growth.

>>213127881
All economies start from 0. But if we were to go by the arbitrary start of 1950, do you think Spain started higher by random chance? It was the work of Spaniards in 1950 that made the Spanish economy back then, and the work of Korean ineptitude that made them live in dirt back then.

>>213129320
>with the average Spaniard seeing zero wealth gains from this growth
They're richer than Koreans

>>213124052
Of course (if you're Flemish, that is)
And you better speak pitch perfect Spanish otherwise you will NOT be able to communicate

>>213129320
>>213129421

>>213129320
>is probably
>is maybe
>but but but
God the amount of cope that we get literally every time we *might* for once do something a bit right for fucking once
Like when I post about our high speed and always get some buttmad jap or germoid "but what about per capita but but what about EU gibs but but" yes we fucking know the economy is fake. But we won anyways at least this time. Get over it. Our number is higher and our line is beautiful and taller.

Again with this comparison. Spain's natural resources and their participation in the EU means they get more out of less investment than East Asian countries who rely on knowledge-intensive industries.

>>213129517
And who is stopping Korea from being part of a economic union like the EU? Korean diplomatic ineptitude if anything.
>Using economic agreements is CHEATING
Are you hearing yourself lmao?

>>213129517
ok and?

>>213129421
Yes and Icelanders are four times as rich as we are?

>>213129468
It's an objective fact you have one of the highest share of immigrants in the developed world and Korea one of the lowest

>>213129574
Yes, those are your official figures, retard.

>>213129573
it basically says you are a spoiled lil nigga in tutorial mode

>>213129567
>being part of a economic union
Their ability to compete independently and not relying on being trade hubs for Germans.

>>213129602
again, and?
it's also an objective fact we produce more olive oil than anywhere in the world

>>213129632
Ok, trading with Germany is cheating?

White people just simply got paid more. This is fact of life.

Do they have this in Korea?

>>213129664
You're running out of arguments you fucking retard. Why are the Gulf Arab countries so rich? Does your low IQ brain need extremes to understand the comparison?

>>213129720
there's literally no argument on your side
>country A is richer because it's inside an trading block and this is cheating because... because reasons

>>213129517
>economic diversity
>says the country that lets high-level Samsung employees get away with crimes because if Samsung failed, the entire country fails

'Lee Jae-yong, the de facto leader, was pardoned twice after being convicted (once in 2017 for bribery tied to former President Park Geun-hye, and again in 2022)'.

>>213129720
Oh the gulf states are also cheating. Having any economic perk is just le cheating and unfair and doesn't count.

Spain is cheating because trading with Germany is too strong (but trading with China and Japan is no advantage at all!)

>>213129517
koreans haven't invented shit tho, they just offer cheaper alternatives by having slave tier working conditions

>>213129829
Who said anything about "cheating" you silly woman? I'm explaining to your stupid self that these two countries have vastly different conditions.

>>213129913
And the point being? Spain and Korea is not 1:1, and the sky is blue, autist.

>muh cunts economic status
Start having +150k salary jobs lil niggas

>>213129944
>The point
You getting defensive and offended over this discussion.

Do westerners really want korea to be some third world brothel like SEA?

>>213129971
What point are you trying to make?

>>213123472
Superior weather, food, culture, people, mentality etc
Literally everything except what, technology?

>>213130030
Probably he doesn't want Korea to look inferior

>>213130022
it's those normie niggas who hate the quiet kid that reminds the teacher of their homework
they HATE work

>>213129714
We don't have it
Korea has almost nothing to flex about except economic power they have. Or what else do they have? Kpoop? lol
inb4 >leeeee Jap Chink wonjong fuck you leeeee

>>213130379
>they have
VPN off, Mitsunari

>>213123794
europeans also looted the entire world for centuries, Britain alone stole like 45 trillion in wealth from India

>>213130403
Teach me what to flex about Korea, Sweede Kim

>>213123908
It's not financially feasible to have kids in the west unless you have 2 parent both making 6 figures

>>213130830
Poor people have the most kids

>>213130379
금요일밤에 평택에서 섹스안하니 에르난데스

>>213123908
>we have actual good work-life balance
is that how you call africans in ik ook?

>>213129795
And Kia/Hundai. One was going to go bankrupt, and the government forced the other brand to buy them against their will to save the Korean car economy.

>>213129007
2022 is when the law went into affect.Show the following year.

>>213131035
Yeah, immigrants who get benefits and financial aid.

Lmao @ the pathetic cope from Kimchis (both the butthurt American and worst-Korea) and K-boos.
Getting mogged by a country that has double digit unemployment and sleeps half of the workday.

>>213132797
meh, at least they mog japenis

>>213123492
Sir, we American's gave them a boost like we did with Japan.

>>213125249
He's right thoughbeit.

unlike spain koreans don’t have a historical empire whose laurels they can rest upon

>>213132855
Not trying to get involved in this thread but, the money the US gave went to rebuild their depleted military during the armistice, we did little for economic aid. The majority of the money in Korea is funding our troops there which is why Trump is asking Korea to pay 10 billion per year to offset the cost.

>>213124296
Venezuela heavily relies on oil. Place a retard at the helm (Caldera), and he allows an even bigger retard (Chavez, Maduro) to make it even worse.

>>213130725
They also destroyed very advanced silk manufacturing and concocted multiple famines out of thin air. Albion really is quite perfidious

>>213129457
shut yo bitch ass up lil nigga

>>213132623
KEKUS MAXIMUS
How much are you going to keep changing the goalposts, Kimmy?

>>213133781
source?

>>213133829
>i-it can't be truuee, worst koreaa is better than everybodddy!
Pretty pathetic, Kimmy.
The source is the 'Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development'.

https://data-explorer.oecd.org/vis?df[ds]=DisseminateFinalDMZ&df[id]=DSD_HW%40DF_AVG_ANN_HRS_WKD&df[ag]=OECD.ELS.SAE&dq=AUS%2BAUT%2BBEL%2BCAN%2BCHL%2BCOL%2BCRI%2BCZE%2BDNK%2BEST%2BFIN%2BFRA%2BDEU%2BGRC%2BHUN%2BISL%2BIRL%2BISR%2BITA%2BJPN%2BKOR%2BLVA%2BLTU%2BLUX%2BMEX%2BNLD%2BNZL%2BNOR%2BPOL%2BPRT%2BSVK%2BSVN%2BESP%2BSWE%2BCHE%2BTUR%2BGBR%2BUSA%2BOECD........_T....&pd=2010%2C&to[TIME_PERIOD]=false&vw=tb

>>213134157
OCED states that the numbers for Korea are estimates.

>>213134157
Compared to Japan which are official figures from Japans government

Well holy shit, Japan works LESS hours than Spain.
I kneel before the true Seista (or 昼寝 in Japanese) bros.

>>213125083
holy shit we eating good

>>213134363
>Korea
>Data for total employment SUPPLIED by Statistics Korea

>>213134407
>Japan
>Data for total employment are Secretariat ESTIMATES

Why are you lying kimmy?

>>213134707
Total employment, not hours worked.
>The result of the Labour Force Survey at Establishments was used to estimate the Annual Hours Worked
>used to estimate

Practice your reading comprehension.

>>213134363
>>213134407
you're such an embarrassing low IQ retard. facts mean absolutely nothing to you.

>>213133062
>Not trying to get involved in this thread
why the fuck are you lying? you've been posting all day. what an absolute fucking moron. jesus christ.

>>213134853
estimates aren't actual, moron. seethe and cope

>>213134845
What difference exactly does this make?
We just now know Japan, for a FACT, works less than Spain.

You want to claim Korea works less than Spain now? lol

>>213134957
>moving the goalpost
not my argument

wtf do they even do?
do they all just fill office spreadsheets for 12h/day?

>>213134976
What goalpost did I move?

>>213123861
What happened in 2010 for Venezuela?

>>213134981
>file name
Ahem (>>213134504), ackshually Japan works less than Spain.

>>213135003
>You want to claim Korea works less than Spain now? lol
I never claimed that nor cared.

>>213125083
Why do they only count income tax and social security?

>>213133721
Fuck up bitch ass nigga FUCK nigga

>>213135189
Are you truly retared?

You claimed Korea worked less than Japan.
Japan works less than Spain.
Ergo you claim Korea works less the Spain.

If you can't understand this basic logic, you need more than four hours of study after school, kimmy.

>>213124220
>everyone wants kids

I don’t want even want a pet, let alone kids

>>213124024
Thank you EU for destroying our industry and fully welcoming us into the embrace of globohomo!

>>213123492
The "colonies" were a net economic loss

>>213126782
All the Jap posters I've seen here were foreigners

>>213129602
>It's an objective fact you have one of the highest share of immigrants in the developed world
Wut. Not really? Nothing that stands out.

>>213133781
I refuse to believe that Germans only work an average of 1331 hours a year lmao

>>213133781
>what is undeclared overtime

>>213135793
>Australia
>THIRTY fucking percent of the population
Fugg...

Fr tho how did Korea manage to create the most dystopian versions of capitalism and socialism

>>213136638
I had an Aussie mate, he once took a picture in the woods, leaning on a motorbike while holding a glass of wine. He said:
>I feel so European
He's a good cookie and so are other Aussies I've met.

>>213136709
This line is getting really old+it makes zero sense. It make you sound like a retard NPC kid on youtube. Don't worry no country beats the US for being the most capitalistic hellhole.

>>213137610
Americans don't gift plastic surgery to their children.

>>213137706
That doesn't happen here either. again misinformation against this country nowadays is crazy lmao

>>213137706
Don't they give them troon juice like what Elon did to his child