Thread 213568017

DJT is a language learning thread for those studying the Japanese language.
Japanese speakers learning English are welcome, too.

Read the guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220326112058/https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html
Grammar references: https://djtguide.github.io/grammar/grammarmain.html

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Previous Thread: >>213539511

もう終わりだよ

>>213568017 (OP)
Cutee >.<

tintinぶらぶらソーセージ

>>213571357
おっぱいのペラペラソース (「・ω・)「 ｶﾞｵｰ

Can't decide whether to focus on language learning, graphics/game programming, or music production as my primary hobby
Not to mention the fact that I'm 25 and STILL haven't decided on my professional career either, and am at risk of forever being a NEET
I hate my life

>>213575761
What's forcing you to focus on one hobby? Just do what you feel like

すき

隙

I have learned to write my first phrase
あいしてる

Aw shit, here we go again.
またかよ…

「ユーサは行くんだ…
惑星へコォォォォレ」

My heart keeps hurting

「砂が嫌い。粗くてざらざらしていて刺激的だし、どこにでもくっついてしまうから」

「話す能力があるからといって、必ずしも知性があるとは限らない」

>https://guidetojapanese.org/learn/debunking-the-japanese-sentence-order-myth/
>All of the following sentences are correct.
>1)彼はいつも図書館で勉強する。
>2)いつも図書館で彼は勉強する。
>3)図書館で彼はいつも勉強する。
Is this actually true? I've always thought there was still an order of the words that makes you sound more *natural*.

I actually did the vocaroo but I posted it in the last thread and no one cared

>>213582203
All of those sentences are fine, but the first one sounds most natural to me.
I usually make a sentence in order of the words like:
>[subject / topic] [time] [a place] [object] [verb]

>>213582651
Okay, I'll copy that.

>>213582203
Yes, all of them are correct. Those three usually mean the same thing,
>(a)"He always studies at the library,"
but there is still some ambiguity.

Sentences 1 and 2 could also mean
>(b)"The place where he studies is always the library."
Sentence 3 could also mean
>(c)"He does not do anything other than studying at the library."
To remove the ambiguity, you can say
>彼が勉強するのはいつも図書館だ。
for (b) and
>彼は図書館では勉強だけをする or 彼が図書館でするのは勉強だけだ。
for (c).

>>213583056
Okay thanks!

ルイジさん…?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiNlEI1lGw8
>5:28
>"im even afraid of someday japanese becoming like a dead language i dont want that"
>unironically thinking that will happen to the 13th most spoken language in the world within her lifetime
why is gen z like this?

>>213584309
yeah no :3

>>213584842
鋼の地球平面術師

>>213584842
kinda Alchemy Puzzles are good for building vocabulary, sirankedo :3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Brain.Alchemy

擧

反故

何をかは 明くるしるしと 思ふべき
昼に変はらぬ 夏の夜の月

眺むれば 涼しかりけり 夏の夜の
月の桂に 風や吹くらん

慣性ドリフト?

>>213582203

I agree with the overall article.
Especially about the whole subject-prominence/topic-prominence thing.
It's such an important paradigm, but it seems like it is always taught as an advanced thing.

>>213583056
This reminds me:
Is it true that Yoda in the japanese dub of star wars doesn't have anything special going on with sentence order and just sounds like an old man?

>>213592948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaY1FVtLUio
Seems so, pretty funny

>>213593009
https://nyaa.si/view/552199

はうはう

a

k

https://youtu.be/NGBy9SOFRog?t=2906
what it feels like bumping this place

This may be a touchy subject and a weird question, but how many countries that sided with the Allies during WW2 celebrate the victory day in grand style on a yearly basis?
I already know Russia and the PRC hold a military parade every year in celebration of the victory over the Axis Powers, but what about the rest (I mean, the US / the UK / France / Canada / Australia / New Zealand and so on)?
Don't get the wrong idea, I'm just asking this for the hell of it, so there's no deep meaning behind this.

>>213597925
>DJT is a language learning thread for those studying the Japanese language.

黙れハゲ

>Japanese speakers learning English are welcome, too.
いいだろ別に
過疎過ぎて常に落ちそうだし

>>213597925

Australia doesn't care about victory day at all. The big military holidays are Anzac Day and Rememberance Day, which were based off World War 1. Australian military campaigns during World War 2, like Singapore or New Guinea are also remembered on these days.

>>213598353
どうしたメンヘラちゃん

>>213598517
女の子のイラストを使う政治厨爺キモス

>>213598449
Thank you for responding to my weird question, Australian anon.

>>213598353
>>213598652

>>213597925 で質問した日本人ポスターだけど >>213598517 は違う日本人ポスターだよ。
アニメ画像を使う日本人ポスターはこのスレに俺ともう一人いる。

ともあれ、英語学習も兼ねて投稿したんだけどね。
なんでそこまで噛みついてくるのか分からん。

大喧嘩の予感・・・
上手くいけば3時間ぐらい上げなくてすむ
いいね

Anyone have a good method of using grok ai to learn languages, in this case Japanese?

>>213599175
>大喧嘩の予感・・・
相手が英語で喧嘩を売ってきてくれれば、英語の勉強になるんだけどね。
多分してこないと思う。

>>213599085
>>213599245
政治厨のキモオヤジは無理して女の子画像使わないで
こっちの画像の方が合っているよw

>>213600069
>異世界おじさん
子供の頃、ソニックとかよくやったな

>>213598353
>>213598652
>>213600069
それではここでロリういをひとつまみ...w

>>213597925
We were occuppied by Germany in WW2 and we don't even get a day off on our liberation day from nazi germany.
I think military parades are weird and dictators seem to be really into them for some reason. Probably makes you vulnerable to attacks during a parade too since half the military is busy dancing and driving planes like cars. Seems like ideal attack timing, wipe out military in one swoop with one fat bomb.

>>213599224
I don't even see how it would speed things up for you when everything is already so streamlined. Just find a guide to the basics of kana+kanji+grammar and then continue on with something like kaishi for core vocab and dojg for grammar and mine your own words in anki while reading manga and watching slice of life anime. It will be difficult, it will get easier. Then you up the difficulty.

>>213600360
ジジイ

>>213600360
あっこのロリ知ってる〜
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm42769085
日本語で喋る友達に見せてキモイっと言われたww

しばしだに 絶え間も無きは 夏山の
こずゑに続く 蟬の諸声

>>213597925
>celebration of the victory over the Axis Powers,
We have VE day celebrations on the 8th of May, which is when Nazi Germany surrendered. But to be honest we dont really celebrate winning WW2 as a whole or the victory over other axis powers.

desu I don't really think about WW2 cause that was like long before my time
The atrocities committed then are long gone imo
Like, I'm pretty sure (actual) Nazis aren't a thing anymore, even if you think they "fled to Argentina". Their ideology pretty much died when Hitler offed himself

>>213603136 (me)
And ofc, that's a good thing obviously

I'm curious, are there any idioms that English speakers find kind of strange?
In Japanese, for example
>負けず嫌い
refers to those who particularly dislike losing or such a trait they have, despite it literally saying "not to lose + to dislike". There is even a word
>負け嫌い,
which means the same thing and very straightforward, but for some strange reason 負けず嫌い seems to be more or less preferred in general.

>>213605359
Off the top of my head, I've always found idioms like "there's many ways to skin a cat" and "spill the tea" to be a little strange. Although the latter is a more recent phrase.

眠いことがあるけど寝たくない。どうしよう。。。

ハッ!!

>>213607452
こういう時にちんちんを触れば良い。

ショタは可愛いからつい四肢切断して苦しませてやりたくなる

>>213609041
大丈夫?

>>213609152
大丈夫なんだが?

>>213606713
Thank you for the reply. Do you mean why should it be
>skinning a cat
and anything else?

>>213597925
Why should we? Poland de facto lost the war (while winning de iure). Ther was nothing great about the end of the war except a brief respite, we just changed one occupation to another. The last Polish soldier fighting (well, maybe the word is too big, but you get the idea, he resisted till the end) in WWII died in 1963.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N23WnwV3_JM
Thoughts on the Civilization games?

>>213600637
>>213602669
>>213603136
>>213603199
>>213609877
I see.
Thank you for answering my silly question, anons.
Apparently, only authoritarian countries would celebrate WW2 victory with military parades in grand style (probably for the purpose of enhancing national prestige).

>I don't really think about WW2 cause that was like long before my time
Yeah, even in Japan, nobody but some cares about WW2 any longer.
Of course, neither do I.

Now that 80 years have gone by since two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan and the radio broadcast of surrender by the Emperor Showa (who goes by "Hirohito" outside Japan), a lot of TV channels report on how tragic, terrible, and brutal the war was to prevent the memories of the victims to fade away.
I'm not going to lie, I feel bad for all people affected by the war and burnt to death by the two nukes, but I think we should move forward already.

>>213610337
Nuclear Gandhi comes to mind first.

>>213610592
>to prevent the memories of the victims to fade away.
to prevent the memories of the victims from fading away*
I messed up.

>>213608939
それは名案と思う

>>213609673
I meant it's just a very odd phrase to me that sounds wrong.

>>213611794
Those cats can't skin themselves >:)

whats the difference between these two
いもうとのへやにおかあさんがいます
おかあさんわいもうとのへやにいます

無盡意菩薩 白佛言 世尊 我今當 供養觀世音菩薩
即解頸 眾寶珠瓔珞 價值百千兩金 而以與之 作是言
仁者 受此法施 珍寶瓔珞
時觀世音菩薩 不肯受之
無盡意 復白觀世音菩薩言 仁者 愍我等故 受此瓔珞
爾時佛告 觀世音菩薩 當愍此 無盡意菩薩 及四眾 天龍夜叉 乾闥婆 阿修羅 迦樓羅 緊那羅 摩侯羅伽 人非人等故 受是瓔珞
即時 觀世音菩薩 愍諸四眾 及於天龍 人非人等 受其瓔珞 分作二分
一分奉 釋迦牟尼佛 一分奉 多寶佛塔

いやごめん分からんわ
全部読んだけどやっぱ良く分からん
少しわかったかもしれないがそれも気の性だけかも
ごめんね

>>213614683
The first one is if I ask, "who is in the room?"
The second one is if I ask, "where is the mom?"

>>213614683
第一声がおかあさんだったら二度見する( ﾟдﾟ)ﾊｯ!
いもうとだったら肩組んで「アミ〜ゴ〜」ってする(*´∀｀)ノ

はわわわわもうこんな時間!
早く首吊って寝ないと!
じゃあな

>>213616848
また来世! ( ˘ω˘人ﾅﾑｰ

「ふしあわせだとは、感じてはいない」意味が分からない。。。説明してください。

>>213617231
I don't regard myself as unhappy >:3

>>213617299
Wouldn't the verb being negative make it mean "happy" instead because of とは?

Is there a difference between saying 感じてはいない and 感じていない?

はよ説明しろ
自称日本人め

>>213617435
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sQC29Izh51c

>>213617510
知るかハゲ

ハゲ呼ばわりはよくないと思います。

ぜんぜんはげてないしー

>>213617366
I can't explain it very well _(:3」∠)_
ふ + しあわせ = ふしあわせ(不幸せ), its not because of とは

>>213617435
the とは and the は are used like a stress, maybe :3

only I can is waiting more dekiru anon (´・ω:;.:...

>>213617510
たいていの日本人わざわざ文法振り返りませんて(@_@;)
JSLの方が得意やろ〜? (｡･ω･)σ)Д`)ﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝﾂﾝ

>>213617730
>felt anything but fortunate.
I saw it translated like this, which means the opposite of what you said, that's why I got so confused. I guess the translation is wrong. Thanks for helping me out!

As for that I am being unhappy, I am not feeling that

>>213617837
that's right, great! :O

>>213617837
The whole sentence is like this
>しかし、彼は、ふしあわせだとは、感じてはいない。
Does that mean he is not unhappy?

ざわ…
ざわ…ざわ…

but, he, did not feel, (that he was) un-happy

>>213617910
I wouldn't go so far as to not say that he couldn't not be unhappy

むしろ幸せ絶頂、頭がハッピーセットなのだ!
とはならんよね(´・ω:;.:...

>>213618012
>felt anything but fortunate.
I guess this translation is wrong then?

What if I just said... yes?

>>213618313
嘘ついたら針千本飲ましまっせ( ･`ω･´)

>>213597925
Americans just wack off every day and have a sense of superiority over the Japanese while lapping up their shitty anime and making fun of everyone that likes it. Also their yen is worth less than our dollar by a significant margin so we have that going too.

[spoiler]I'm Japanese american. It makes me sad to see my relatives speak of money hardships sometimes. I will impose my finacial assistance as hard as Perry opened their boarders.[spoiler]

>>213617834
Don't rely on translations, they'll only confuse you even more. Trust your gut and keep immersing.

眾生被困厄 無量苦逼身
觀音妙智力 能救世間苦
具足神通力 廣修智方便
十方諸國土 無剎不現身
種種諸惡趣 地獄鬼畜生
生老病死苦 以漸悉令滅

>>213618745
but we Japanese have a sense of superiority over the Americans seriously

>>213618133
Yes, the quoted translation is terribly wrong.
All the translations given to you itt look correct to me.

>>213619202
Thank you so much.

>>213619006
>Philadelphia full of injection drug users like dystopia
Is this real?
Please say "no" American bros...

眠いので、寝る。おやすみなさい~

>>213619675
おやすみ

眠くないので、起きる。おはようございます〜(・ω・)

You want to hurt me, don't you

>>213621812
おはよう

なぜ生きている

>>213621812
おはよう~

>>213628812
絶望などは絶対にいけない!

>>213628812
no more dispair absolutely! >:3

「頭文字D」見るだに車を買いたくなってきたw
買ってもしょうがない、危なく運転したくない
人生が人生ならサングラスをかけてタバコを吸いながら運転してカッコよくて女を引かれる
どうせ無免で金がない
想像ダサいww

一番好きなライトノベルは?

ぼくのぴこ、ノベライズ

>>213629187
女は大概タバコを大嫌いと思うですけど、サングラスをかける男とは大好きです。

>>213629332
タバコを吸う人はかっこいいですけど、すぐに止めさせたいwww
普通はそういうことだ(￣▽￣;)

>>213629205
あまりラノベ読まないが、ノベルゲームならやっぱり「カノン」をおいて他にない
読みやすくて可愛くて感動してる

インデックス下り上り
カタログ上下左右
スレ酔いになりそうだてヘヘ

毎日毎日アンキのカード量が増える一方だ
復習量は一応安定だけど、新しいカードだ
新しいカード量が月ごとに減るのを待ち焦がれる(´・ω・｀)

駄目打此奴
速苦何等為無若

壱頁戻

一人にして萎えちゃった
スレ死ねば好い
日本語諦めて韓国語と中国語を学んで後悔を思い知らせるよ