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>Rafale

Thank ALLAH we got F35s before the Europoor butthurt. Imagine if we got Eurotrash jets instead
>mfw we could flatten Europooristan in a 1v40

>>213610480 (OP)
I doubt cuked EU leaders will star buying up Rafale

>>213611690
*entire air fleet gets disabled from one button because you didnt invite enough trans representatives for children pride show*

>>213611690
Lol, Macron will blown up your hangar where your store your 3 or 4 f35. End of the story

>>213610480 (OP)
I find it weird that they're going for Rafales when the FCAS program just died due to frog greed.

>>213612084
they're not going for Rafales. Spain is a Eurofighter consortium member, they're getting new Eurofighters.

>>213612084
>>213612622
also, FCAS is not dead yet - officially, at least.

don't take everything you read on 4chan and every bait headline as facts.

>>213611565
Imagine building a fighter jet so bad that some bootleg chinese lavi / f16 takes it down

And yes the Chinese aircraft cannot even scratch the balls of the more advanced American fighter jets

>>213612661
>officially, at least

>>213611565
>>213612701
the deciding factor in the engagement was the Pakistani AEW&C. It's not due to Rafale being particularly bad or J-10C being particularly good, both can kill each other depending on the circumstances.

>>213612771
>the deciding factor in the engagement was the Pakistani AEW&C
We faced the same chinese platforms that the Pakistanis used, from what I've read their most advanced radar early warning system couldn't even spot our F35-Is which is partially why the Iranians were surprised by our attack

>>213612856
the Pakistanis used Swedish Erieye AEW&C and Iran doesn't use Chinese airborne radars or fighters. Iran was hopelessly outmatched, boasting about the fight is like bragging about beating up a toddler

>>213612856
Iran flies Erieyes?

>>213613149
>>213613075
I am pretty sure that both pakistanis and iranians use the same chinese radars, I remember reading about it on Telegram and watching a video on it but I may be wrong

>>213613265
they don't. Iran doesn't operate modern Chinese weaponry. Their gear was outdated Soviet and American cold war equipment.

>>213613337
I read an article that said they may relay more on Chinese technology from now on.

>>213613265
>>213613337
I read that they used the Erieye to track the Rafales. They managed to connect the J-10 with western AWACS apparently.

>>213613489
it's likely. Same for other countries in the region who only get second-rate American equipment due to the US's policy of ensuring Israel's qualitative advantage.
>>213613528
yes, and long-range Chinese missiles launched from the J-10C. The Indians weren't cautious enough.

>>213613489
If they have the oil we Chinese have the equipment.

>>213611565
Do you sincerely believe that the jeet air force would have planes made out of what looks like fiberglass with a French flag and the words "Rafale" on it? I mean, the other jeets did take one down because jeets are incompetent but using this picture is ridiculous. Also, has Brasil, despite having one of the largest economies and populations in the world, and claiming to have invented aviation, ever produced a jet fighter? That's what I thought.

>>213614655
it's not a French flag but the Indian tricolor. And Rafales in other country's air forces have the Rafale label too. At least one Rafale was shot down by Pakistan, even French officials admitted that. That doesn't mean the Rafale is bad, but it happened.

>>213614655
>Also, has Brasil, despite having one of the largest economies and populations in the world, and claiming to have invented aviation, ever produced a jet fighter?

Together with our pastabros :)

>>213614817
>Rafales in other country's air forces have the Rafale label too
Show me a single picture of an actual Rafale that has the words "RAFALE" written on it in that font. I'll wait.

>>213614857
>Italian project that later got coopted by a Brazilian company that makes commercial jets and trainer propeller planes
>English engine
It's cute that you believe this counts

>>213615945

>>213610480 (OP)
>>213611565
>rafa-AAAAAAAACK

>>213611565
>rafail

>>213612701
Looking at Boeing, and the numerous catastrophic technical failures accumulating over the years - while Airbus is doing fine, why would it be different for fighters? Jeets are just Jeets.

>>213616081
Hmm... Must be a jeet thing to look cool, never saw it on French planes. Still not the same placement nor the same font though.

>>213616139
>>213616171
It's a plane that was designed in the 80s in a small impoverished country and yet it has specs comparable to the F-35

>>213617326
less unfounded arrogance would be due, the 'jeet' Rafale can be shot down just like a French Rafale or German Eurofighter, and no, the Rafale is not competitive with the F-35.

>>213617326
>It's a plane that was designed in the 80s in a small impoverished country
France was neither small nor improverished in 1980. Europeans were not Yuropoors back then. Drop the self hating crap.
>>213617402
>is not competitive with the F-35
Ofc it is. And I'm not a Rafale-lover by any means

>>213617714
>Ofc it is.
no, it isn't, no matter how much you post this on 4chan.

if you dont play wargame/warno
can you even call yourself a wargame enjoyer

>>213616728
Civilian side Boeing got fucked by beancounters cutting costs too much, but the Rhino and the Eagle have good reputations.

Pls buy

Does France sell the Rafale-M?

America will probably sanction any purchase that have American parts in it.

The jeets losing 3-6 Rafales is on them, you cannot expect the jeet Chairforce to have the same flight hours as a NATO or American pilot.

>>213610480 (OP)
They were already planning on not buying due to a lack of funds and Spain generally not caring about defense. There is no replacement for the F-35s unless you think buying the same outdated multiroles is a good choice.

>>213612661
I can't see how we're going to launch a EF from our tiny multipurpose thingy we call a carrier, there's no naval version.

My guess is that we'll be w/o planes until they develop a VTOL FCAS, or the clown ruling this country swallows his pride and buy a small fleet of f35Bs

Honestly, watching these Rafale fanboys still cry after getting dunked in the Pakistan-India war is priceless. Meanwhile, Israel's F-35s completely shredded Iran's pathetic air defenses and stormed all the way to their capital, taking out top military leadership with insane precision.

Like this, one mediocre French toy jet without real stealth can't hold a candle to the F-35's true low-observable tech and killer capabilities.

F-35 is the present battlefield fact. End of story

Why are ya'll niggas still peddling Chinese propaganda? Pakis didn't shoot down any Rafales lmao.

>>213616728
>Civilians and military planes are held to the same standards
Yeah ok I'm disregarding everything you've said and will say, you're retarded.

This thread smells like autism

>>213621804
Saaar

>>213620657
I'm quite sure a VTOL FCAS isn't happening (if FCAS is even happening at all) and I don't think your small carrier can launch Rafale-M anyway. Your realistic options are
1) buy F-35B
2) use the ship as a drone carrier like Turkey
3) give up carrier-based aviation

>>213616728
Boeing's military sector is essentially a different company from their civilian sector altogether, the civilian sector is the far less profitable side hustle at this point that they don't really care about.

SPAINIARDS ARE WELDED FOR BBC

>>213612701
>And yes the Chinese aircraft cannot even scratch the balls of the more advanced American fighter jets
If this were true, Israel and America would've attacked China by now.

>>213619871
>The jeets losing 3-6 Rafales is on them, you cannot expect the jeet Chairforce to have the same flight hours as a NATO or American pilot.
The pilots may have been Indian, but their opponents were Pakistani, so they were on equal footing. No amount of extra hours will turn you into an Ace Combat protagonist.

>>213611979
>Flag
>Claim

>>213617714
lmao maybe wvr but your ass is grass bvr
t. i like the rafale but am not fucking retarded

>>213621383
>one (1) plane gets blown up (jeet might have fat fingered a self-destruction button for all we know)
>WOOOOOOW FRENCH PLANES SUCK SO MUCH
>meanwhile airbus has an accident killing tens of people on the regular

>>213610480 (OP)
how many planes did the jeets lose again?

Good. I wouldn't trust buying american when Trump can just press a button and shut them off. Europe shouldn't buy American.

>>213619570
I can give you about 120 aussie bucks for one.