Thread 213734186

I love them. What about /int/?

Degenerates

>>213734186 (OP)
Thank you :)

>>213734186 (OP)
I would probably volunteer to help them fight if the human eating devil from across the shore decides to invade.

>>213734239
>tp
>tf

>>213734331
Hey don't say that about our Filipino friends!

>>213734239
Based. Up those birthrates!

>>213734186 (OP)
Love you too <3

i buy their laptops

>>213734186 (OP)
nigga if you love them so much why do you live in the country that went rape mode on them during both world wars

>>213734449
We raped Chinese. Not Taiwanese. We always loved our Taiwanese friends!

My only interest in them right now is whether, when China invades in 2027, the America will launch missiles at TSMC to protect its semiconductor dominance.

>>213734500
>avatarfag comes up with 4 yo level theories again
Lil bro, semiconductors are irrelevant sould China invade Taiwan

>>213734695
If China invades Taiwan, almost everyone except you will only care about whether TSMC survives.

>>213734842
if China invades Taiwan and if TSMC was that important, US(or whoever has the most interest in them)will evacuate engineers and data that really matters weeks in prior. if they didn't do that, they wouldn't launch missiles at TSMC, regardless at its headquarter or factories, because it will cause gigantic unnecessary civilian casualties, friendly fires and greatly deter future ally operations.

>>213734500
Chang you ain't gonna do muffin. stop larping.

>>213734186 (OP)
Always kill a traitor before an enemy and they are traitors to China.

>>213734500
>>213734842
Reality

>>213735118
This. the ccp are traitors. They killed 10s of millions of Chinese, turned down the temples and banned Chinese religion.

I look forward to SMIC rendering TSMC irrelevant as soon as China develops EUV

>>213735073
That ultimately depends on America's will. But considering the current US stance, refusing Taiwan's president even to transit through the US, blocking Taiwan from using American territory, it makes me lean more toward the possibility that the US might strike rather than protect TSMC, Then again, who knows, that's exactly why I'm interested in watching closely

>>213735232
That's in 3 weeks and china will collapse in 2

>>213735248
More cope and larping. Not healthy Chang

>>213734500
SMIC is already just 2-3 years behind TSMC, and that’s purely due to to America blocking EUV sales to them. They get access to EUV and they will start eating away at TSMC’s market share. That’s when they’ll invade, once they corner a huge chunk of the high end semiconductor market.

>>213735232
>SMIC

>>213735300
>Can only do 7nm with 20% yield rate
More like 10 years

Chinese cope has a special flavor about it that makes it very easily identifiable

>>213735373
LEFT LEFT LEFT
NO THE OTHER LEFT

>>213735316
https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/20/china_us_chip_competition/

SMIC is already at 5nm despite America throwing literally hundreds of sanctions at them, blocking everything from EUV, design software, etching, chemicals, photoresist etc etc. Imagine their strength soon China develops an in house replacement for everything.
>>213735341
Sweetie, the yield rate is more like 60% now. They are on 5nm too. Keep up to date with the news.

>>213734842
The part that really confuses me is how the entire world was complacent enough to sit back and let the cornerstone of all modern technology become hyper-dependent on a hotly-contested island.

Yield Gap

Huawei’s Ascend 910B (SMIC-made N+2/7nm-ish chip) currently hits only about 20% yield, far below the 70%–90% typically needed for commercial viability .

Meanwhile, TSMC has achieved average yields around 80%, with peaks north of 90% on its 5nm node .


Node Size & Tooling

TSMC is producing chips on 5 nm, 3 nm, and moving toward 2 nm, using EUV (extreme ultraviolet) lithography.

SMIC, by contrast, is working at roughly “7 nm class” (N+2 process) using DUV (deep ultraviolet) tools, which are less precise and much less efficient .
Chris Miller (FT podcast) — ~5 years behind, with SMIC consistently trailing around that margin over the past 15 years .

ITIF / SCMP report — Also approximates ~5 years behind in commercial advanced logic manufacturing .

Wu Cheng-wen (Taiwan’s National Science Council) — Cautioned the gap is closer to 10+ years, especially as TSMC advances into 2 nm while SMIC remains at ~7 nm .

>>213735407
Stop seething Chang. You will never take Kinmen island and you will never produce good chips

>>213735507
Not even Chinese want to use Chinese chips. They use TSMC chips from Vietnam at a 50% markup

While semiconductors are one critical reason why Taiwan is strategically important today, the commies wanted the island before it had an established tech sector. The idea of "unifying" China with Taiwan (which isn't even that old of a concept) and establishing naval projection over the rest of Asia and the Pacific are of greater priority.

>>213735594
This is the main reason America wants to protect Taiwan. The chips are only a secondary concern since of any shit starts they just send all the engineers to Arizona

>>213735486
Did you copypasta this from 2023 or something?

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20250225PD224/huawei-ascend-ai-chip-yield-rate.html

Their 7nm is on it's way to 60% yield and is already profitable. And they are already producing 5nm. Oh and because the lack of EUV is slowing them down so much, a large part of China's R&D efforts are focused on skipping the traditional silicon to move onto new materials like 2D nanosheets that have been ignored so far. If they do achieve this, they will leapfrog ahead of everyone else, even without EUV.

>>213735810
>reportedly
I simply do not believe you.

>>213734186 (OP)
My only knowledge of them is when LinusTechTips brought an expensive PC at a mall there. They seem pretty chill

>>213734500
>>213734695
>>213734842
>>213735064
>>213735462
The factory itself is irrelevant, what matters are the skillset of the engineers which is just a part of the global supply chain.

TSMC doesn't fabricate everything, it's part of the global supply chain with each part outsourced to allies like in europe or north america, engineers all over the world collaborate on it.

>>213735810
I agree with you, SMIC will achieve 2nm in 2 weeks

>>213736329
But China will fall in one

>>213734186 (OP)
I love China too

>>213735810
I'm so sorry Chang but no matter how much you seethe and cry and shart China will never take Kinmen island and it will never make decent chips
2 more weeks

>>213736001
Oh no, I'm sure that this will stop the massive global superpower of 1.4 billion people. This is what always surprised me, America has been pilling sanction after sanction on China's semiconductor for like 10 years straight, every single round they go "Surely they're done for this time, they're gonna to be stuck at 40nm forever" and yeah sometimes this slows China down, but China always figures out a workaround and comes back even stronger, since now they have a domestic replacement, and this is always followed up by cope "Do you really believe CCP lies and reports?", before hard facts start to pile up up, like how their 7nm was confirmed by physically tearing apart various Huawei products under a microscope before Americans truly believed it.

In this case, one has to question how Huawei is scaling up productions of millions of GPUs if their yields are just at 20% and they're eating a loss at every GPU made. Yeah no shit that superpower that can throw billions of dollars at projects can improve their yield rates.
>>213736329
You joke, but it's really an issue of how fast that they get EUV. Ship them an ASML EUV and they could get to 2nm in under a year. And once they do EUV, not only do they get 2nm chips, but they will also have an domestic supply chain that covers almost every part of the semiconductor supply chain. See >>213736256, the current semiconductor supply is insanely fragmented between literally thousands of companies across a dozen countries. Due to sanctions, China has near complete domestic semiconductor supply chain, the only part missing is EUV.

>>213736357
History repeats itself

>>213734186 (OP)
they made thunderbolt fantasy so they're alright in my book

>>213736464
Didn't read, Chang.

>>213736440
>>213736618
No matter how much you or I seethe or cry, the fact remains that China is working hard on their semiconductors and making great progress. 20 years ago, China overtaking Japan in semiconductors would have been a pipe dream, but Japan has been almost entirely pushed out of the cutting edge nodes.

>>213736464
2......more


I'm sorry china will continue to be mexico tier shithole forever

>>213736635
Come back when it actually happens instead of spouting more CCP bullshit lies.

>>213736663
Can japan make 7nm nodes? So it already happened. As for EUV, it's maybe another year or two away from mass production, it's already in advanced stages of testing. Check back around 2028
>>213736647
China doing all of this while being a middle income country is even more impressive don't you agree?

>>213736765
I thought you said they were on 5nm? Come on son.

>>213736635
Working hard doesn't mean anything Chang. You will never take Kinmen island and you will never make good chips

>>213736765
Everytime I hear EU5, I can only see this

I like a game they made, so I like them too.

>>213736833
Well I will admit that their 5nm yield is dogshit and they will need EUV to go lower. So 7nm for most commercial products for now. 5nm is gonna to be for super high end GPUs until they can find a way to improve the yield and make it cheaper, so it will probably be when they get EUV.
>>213736838
If only words can influence reality. I will become a billionaire. I will live for a thousand years. But sadly, words don't work like that.

>>213736870
same

>>213736991
their 7nm is dog shit too
Will you be hyping up Indian semi conductors next Sar?

Always love contrarians who support formosa just because they are told to do so.
If it was a break away state from another country but since its ebil gommie China they kneel
Non of you faggots care About Taiwan, non of you faggot know the Diference between a mainlander and a islander chink
If China tommorow threaten to invade afganistan you niggas would be spamming the taliban flag

>>213737106
Retard.

>>213737106
Don't care, never did. I just like seeing commies get dabbed on.

>>213737106
No one likes you Chang outside of thirdies. Sorry people pick the first world one over the third world shithole

>>213737146
Nice comeback
Its 3pm sister is it not the goverment mandated time to post on xwitter About for the current thing and how it relates to he struggle of black Trans turkish migrants

>>213737179
At least you honnest cant stand the fakeness of it all.
Europe does give a single fuck about Ukraine, the just want to dunk on Russia and Im tiered of pretending otherwise
I dont care About palestinians just love how they turned the world against isreal

>>213737070
Their 7nm nodes is the only commercial viable GPUs outside of NVIDIA, ones that are being produced in the scale of hundreds of thousands, millions soon. If they're dogshit, what does this say about everyone else?


>Will you be hyping up Indian semi conductors next Sar?

Oh I don't know, did India get hit with literally hundreds of sanctions by America to slow their semiconductor industry down for an entire decade, power through to develop domestic replacements for every crucial piece of technology that got sanctioned, still somehow advance fast enough to surpass Europe and Japan and somewhat keep up to TSMC in the node race despite said sanctions and are currently looking into alternative semiconductors like 2D transition metal dichalcogenides and graphene?

Maybe if India did up of that, I would be hyping them up too.

>>213737294
I get that you're uneducated, you really don't have to brag about it.

>>213737246
Nobody in the first world cares About your asiatic bugman squabbles
China is makes my shit and never bothered me , Japan is a dying country.
If you want to accelerate the end by wiping out the few teens you still have on the shores of formosa be my guest. Just dont delude your self in to thinking any european will help much less care.

>>213734186 (OP)
you love them just because they suck your ass

>>213737340
Continous deflection and projection dont make you look smart.
Might work on xwitter trannies if you care so much go get blown up by like bombs ,chink missive or Russian shells . Whatever current thing you support

>>213737506
What makes you think anything you've written deserves more than contempt?

>>213735136
If Taiwan did that I'm sure China would use that as justification to just nuke the island.

>>213737674
Assuming that their missiles can get though 1500km of heavily defended airspace. I want Taiwan to try, to waste hundreds of missiles on the dam, instead of striking closer and more vulnerable targets instead.

>>213736765
heh, China poached a shit load of Samsung engineers who had a lot of DUV and EUV experience to work on their 7nm process and paid them triple/quadruple the going rate to get them to pack up and move. You changs couldn't do it solo at all. lol

>>213737797
Results are results. Don't throw stones in glass houses. America is also tons importing TSMC engineers just to get 5nm nodes.

>>213737333
80% failure rate. Chinese use our chips above their own despite having to import marked up from Vietnam. Very shameful

>>213737850
Actually we also imported a lot of ex-Samsung engineers who left after the last management shake up. Intel fabs in Oregon are filled with them.

>>213737773
Chinese air defense lost to heat drones

>>213737386
>>213737850
The Chinese seethe at Taiwans natural superiority
it's hilarious and sad

>>213737930
All air defense are losing to drones right now. Turns out that throwing a million dollar missile at a $50,000 drone isn't working, and no real solutions have been found yet. The issue is getting those drones to damage a multi-million ton gravity dam...
>>213737891
Well the Ascend chips aren't up to par yet. But 2 years ago, there were no alternatives, so the fact that there's an actual chinese GPU that still gives 40% of the performance of NVIDIA's best in just 2 years of development is great.

>80% failure rate

Almost 60% yield now. This bots haven't been updated since 2023 I swear.
>>213738024
That's great. The seethe just motivates them to develop. Better seething than an nation that stagnated hard, or an nation that seethes but can't do anything about it.

>>213738188
Yes so nothing will stop Taiwan blowing up your shitty bridge

>>213738188
This nigga wish he were taiwanese so badly holy shit

>>213738234
>>213738210
Nice bots. Confused the Crimea bridge with the Dam did you? Moonlight as an anti-russian bot?

>>213738279
Changy pussy dripping in rage
Only Taiwan cock can sooth this

>>213738300
Seethe powers nations, the fact that you think it's a bad thing is why certain countries are stagnating hard. China will seethe and use that seethe to grow stronger and that's a good thing.

>>213734239
giwtwm

>>213738367
The power of Taiwan cock is so powerful it converts hundreds of thousands of communists every year to nationalism

>>213734186 (OP)
>Nice, objectively morally good and first world country
Of course it makes third world shitters and commies seethe

>>213738475
Literal BBC posting now. Is this what people are resorting to?

>>213738927
Your women only want Taiwanese men. In fact you want Taiwanese men. You seethe at them because they wont fuck you, marry you and bring you to Taiwan.

Chinks will never make good potato or computer chips. We must accept this fact. Coping about this wont make them tastier

>>213734186 (OP)
Despite Xi's rhetoric it's most likely that China will just kick the can down the road

>>213739122
One day British will make computer crisps and put us out of business

>>213739625
Well yeah.
>act strong when you are weak
Is taken seriously. Status quo forever