Thread 213752585

>China is underrated
>Japan is overrated

I can't believe the whole world sucked Japans dick for so long, because they created a bunch of cartoons and automobiles

China proves, only poverty held them back, and they can do the same

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>>213752585 (OP)
This vpn chang speaks the truth even tho he is a chang.

>>213752585 (OP)
They sucked their dick because ((they)) wanted you to suck their dick so that eventually when a war against China comes you don't think twice about sending hundreds of billions of your taxpayer money to Korea and Japan. It's much easier for normalfags to go along with it when they feel some kind of connection to them. Powerful countries like the USA don't just let any random shithole colonize them culturally. The rise of popularity of Japan was never organic
It should be even more obvious nowadays when Korea is being shilled instead of Japan. You'd have to be pretty retarded to think there's something super remarkable about Korean music and TV series compared to the rest of the world to the point where they became popular in America out of all the slop that exists in the world and the slop in America itself. At least Japan had cartoons so that was unique enough

silk road, more the road of used things

>>213752824
Where's the Japanese version of Sister Hong

>>213752585 (OP)
China is India-tier outside of the few major cities. Lurk on /gif/ for the china threads.

>Chinese can only make rip offs of what Japan has already made
>This is a complement towards China

>>213752824
That image has no effect.
Someone who doesn't know Japan made it.
Japanese laughs at the image.

>>213756311
made you reply, so it did clearly had an effect

>>213756078
Kek this brings back memories. Every toy I ever bought at a Chinese store as a kid broke the same day I got it

>>213756226
This is in the top 5 most retarded things I've ever seen kids do. Number one has got to be those black girls killing themselves with their parents gun by accident

>>213756272
FUCKING KEK

>>213752585 (OP)
Turn off the VPN, Chang

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>>213752585 (OP)
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>>213756445
you weren't supposed to point that out

>>213752585 (OP)
Japan is the most beautiful, civilised country in the world. China is a corrupt, dystopian shithole. If anything, Japan is underrated and China is overrated

>>213752824
>East Asian aesthetics are similar therefore Japan stole from China!
Zhangs actually believe this btw

Im gonna be honest, the next years will probably see a Japanese decline in culture and in everything in general while China will rise merely due to the fact that Japan is more cucked to the U.S than China is (which means much needed political reform will just not be passed over there.)

>>213752824
>two neighboring countries have similar cultures
NO FUCKING WAY HOLY SHIT

>>213752824
the japs themselves acknowledge that they stole shit from china
only a retarded faggot who knows nothing of history would say otherwise

>>213757327
when

>>213752585 (OP)
Actually yours is the typical midwit opinion, the one in in the middle of the bell distribution. Truly growing up is to realize that it is in fact the opposite. The retarded naïve weeb and the level-headed deep knower arrive at very similar conclusions. I won't get into details here of all places as it would be like casting pearls before swine, and debating swine is a particular kind of exhausting.

>>213752585 (OP)
First of all, Chinese people should stop pooping everywhere.

>>213752824
This is just as retarded as claiming that all modern Euro cultures are just hollow imitations of Rome.

>>213756078
Ok but this kind of shit is why I like China kek

>>213752585 (OP)
Good, you're starting to evolve from a redditor

>>213756445
It sounds like you know nothing about Japan.

>>213752585 (OP)
china is a stone age country outside tier 1 cities
japan adopted western civilization and advanced to a modern state on par with western powers in only 36 years. they were the most advanced country in the world until the US unfairly fucked them over by devaluing the dollar since we are incompetent and wont make our own shit

Whose side am I supposed to cheer on if I want to be a contrarian?

>>213758882
both

>>213758879
skill issue

>>213758879
Questionable claim, the timing is off https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/frankel/files/plazaaccord-piie2016.pdf

Japan is indeed overrated.
however, China is much more overrated, since they use most of their efforts to "how it appears".

>>213758882
China
I ragebait people all the time by doing so. Even on here.

>>213756311
>>213758870
So Japan made all of that culture themselves and gave it to China?

>>213752824
>>213752824
The more you read recorded and not speculative history the more you realize both are fake. The board game Go for instance isn't mentioned in any first hand sources of Japan or China, the first person to bring Go to the west was a German guy in the 1880s, mind that there were tens of thousands of westerners that visited Japan/China throughout history by this point and absolutely none of them note this board game every being played. What was the Chinese excuse? Manchus destroyed our history. What was Japan's excuse? No one was allowed in for 200 years. Both fall flat because we have many first-hand accounts of Japan even during isolation and there's no mention of it in China even before Qing. Marco Polo doesn't mention it, so what's the excuse here? Oh Mongols destroyed our history? Jesuits don't mention it in Ming either, neither do any other Catholic missionaries.

>>213759749
Okay, Toshi... so where did all of China's culture come from then? And where did Go come from? lol, cope.

>>213759826
>licensed production and made-in-Japan are more popular
>meanwhile nobody wants shitty chinese knockoffs
lol

>>213759807
If you want my honest schizo opinion: Freemasons and Jesuits. If you want my dishonest secular opinion: nationalist cultural revision.

>>213760009
aka, cope.

>>213760006
Lol

>>213759749
So are you saying Europeans invented go? If so then 1. Why is it called go, 2. Who invented it, 3. Why didn't anyone in the west play it

>>213756517
I can fix her...

>>213760233
Defeated again...

Japanese have always admitted the large part of their traditional cultures are from China.
It's a mystery that there are always some guys who pester the audience about how we ""steal"" from them and always target us out of so many countries in the world, although there's almost no country that has no foreign influence.

>>213760030
Definitely not cope. I feel the same way about Zoroastrianism if it makes you feel better.

>>213760048
Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, but as far as any practical introduction to the game goes then yes. If you think you can find it go ahead. I'll give you a few authors to check out and see if you can dig up a single reference to it. Mind it was first 'found' in Japan, so naturally that's the first place you look because China said it was theirs first but Japan preserved their culture until the Manchus killed it off.
Engelbert Kaempfer, Sir Alcock Rutherford, Isaac Titsingh, any document from the American mission to Japan (including diaries of crew members), any Jesuit text, They Came to Japan (travelogue from the 16th century), virtually any letter composed/sent by the Dutch in Dejima, Karl Thunberg, I can list off more, but these are the ones I read through. Alcock had like 800 pages describing what felt like every blade of grass in Japan and not one mention of this game. You can read any of these yourself they're all on the Internet Archive. It's absolutely ridiculous that there's 300 years worth of review and not a single mention until Oskar Korschelt. I shit you not Alcock even discussed things like the tricks Japanese would do with tops, one of which involved balancing a spinning top on a wet string.

>>213760258
>Japanese have always admitted the large part of their traditional cultures are from China.
Thats right, takashi! And don't forget who your daddy is too.

>>213760453
I've seen a jap or weeb claim that kanji doesn't come from China kek

>>213760032
wut?

>>213760553
>Accidental test launch
Eh I've seen worse

>>213752585 (OP)
People who overestimated Japan are just stupid.
By the way, what kind of overestimation has Japan received? Please tell me a specific example.

>>213760472
Japoweebs are retarded

>>213760241
nobody can beat chinese
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20250722_12/

>>213760588
We can't beat Japan's fake stats

>>213760572
but we never killed civilians nor annihilate village during rocket launch kek

>>213760599
Damn. J-20 really is stealthy.

>>213760453
Hi John, you should respect your daddy too.

>>213760472
I don't think that's a real Japanese.

>>213760606
most successiful chinese company...wait

>>213760472
Reminder

>>213760716
>most successiful chinese company
Are you talking about Tencent, Alibaba, Huawei or BYD?

>>213760599
>>213760689
but they are POS just like other chinese products

even japanese women are fake

>>213760755
>Reads article
>China claims to have shot it down with another Chinese jet in a wargame by disabling the J-20's network
Yawn

>>213760768
Tbf they're both fake. Even if Freya isn't filtered (pretty sure she's not since I've seen her 1000000x) she's still wearing a ton of make-up. The other woman is Saori Araki, a swimsuit model, a quick google search is all you need to realize she looks nothing like that without the filter.

>>213760258
Japan was influenced by Han, Tang and Qing, and China was influenced by Japan.

>>213760865
>China was influenced by Japan.
lol, please do tell how China was influenced by Japan.

>>213760838 i’m so tired of western cum niggers ruining my kind

>>213760875
Their shitty videogames and wanna be anime

>>213760791
>read article
>even chinese military admitted the older J-10 is superior than the *mighty dragon j-20

lolol

>>213760875
Sorry, I chose the wrong word.
>They stole.

Incidentally, China was receiving aid from Japan as a third country until March 2022.
This is something that most Japanese don't know.

>>213760584
Your point being?

>>213760754
>muh China is great that's why we Chinese escaped to the 1st world cunts like Canada, the US, Australia or Japan

>>213760875

One thing is for sure: Around 99% of the economic development of China's modern economy, political structure, social structure, and technology are just products derived from the West and Japan. It's really pathetic to see that China has been playing the victim of Pax Americana even that they receieve a lot of benefits than any other country.

It' really funny to see what China has only done during historically with such a higepopulation and territory. Shame on you, China.

>>213760903
What? Filters? Are you some sort of filterkin?

>>213761027
Unfortunately, he chose to be a CCP dog over his freedom.

>>213761043
>japs switching to vpn mode
this is how you know you're under their skin. lol

It's true that ancient China was superior, but unfortunately, that can't be said about the present. There were so many killings within China that the ethnic groups changed and the country became different.

>>213761043


Nope :) :(

>>213761132
Unfortunately they’re not even real Japanese it’s all mutts larping on vpns

wumao san, just give up

>> 213761132

Nope :) :(

>>213760875
OH NO NO NO NO NO
https://youtu.be/3laAXxtsULY?si=cLILOKynIFzwv5YY
(genuinely mind-blowing video, highly recommend)

チュン公のライフはゼロあるよ!!

>>213761238
Don't matter, you're not actually korean. many SEA, chinese and even japanese live in Korea so its meaningless.

>>213752585 (OP)
Chinese are not people, while Japan gets kudos for being the only part of Asia to actually sign on with the West. Its not terribly complicated, Anon.

>>213761784
Where is your nationality and ancestry from?
I am a Japanese who was born and raised in Japan, and I only have Japanese nationality.

>>213761784

Whatever you are in delusional, here Korean hates China far more than Japan, Chang :)

I'm half Chinese but I like Japan
My interest in China is pretty much pre-Song dynasty history and literature but that's about it
Unfortunately I was raised on Japanese media and so my aesthetic tastes are heavily influenced by Japan
I will never find the soul that I find in films like Floating Weeds or novels like Kokoro in China
Japan may be overrated if you're a porn addicted pervert who has kept himself in a perpetual state of immaturity through pornography, cartoons and video games

>>213761983
okay english teacher larping he wuz samuri n'shieeeet
>>213762094
don't matter, you're not korean so you don't know what they really think, sea/jap/mutt.