Thread 213993339

Recently got back to Brazil after 2 years I. Ireland and the countryis absolutely fucked.
Prices have risen exponentially.
Thank god I’m going back to Ireland.

>>213993339 (OP)
Your countrymen voted for this

are you the anon who begged for money to buy a ticket? lmao

>>213993448
Yes but I was messing around
I didn’t know Brazil was this fucked
Going back to Ireland next month

>>213993339 (OP)
Stay in your shithole favela country.

housing crisis in ireland is probably worst in the entire europe, and it will take them 50 years to figure out the problem and 50 years to fix it, how did you cope with
it?

of all the euro countries you picked ireland kek

>>213993339 (OP)
What visa?

>>213993339 (OP)
>Prices have risen exponentially.
The only things that have become more expensive in the last two years are coffee and olive oil.
You're lying.
Probably a Bolsotard trying to bait.

Also, I live alone and do my own shopping. Before you start with the memes.

>>213993977
Almost every eastern EU country has a housing crisis worse than Ireland if you don't own your flat. Income:rent prices ration in Warsaw or Prague is worse than in Dublin

>>213993339 (OP)
Why do so many Brazilians live in Ireland?

>>213993339 (OP)
Sorry brother. I hope the US will intervene and Bolsonaro will be paroled so he could revert Lula's communist reforms and you could return to a capitalist Brazil this time

>>213994646
The country has literally not changed at all.
Lula has done absolutely nothing.
The only thing he has is this narrative of moral panic about Bolsonaro going to prison.
The real - dollar has been stable for 5 years.
High inflation and interest rates, wages above inflation, and the country is exactly the same as it was 4 years ago.

>>213993339 (OP)
>Prices have risen exponentially.
Ok Steve Banon.

kek hues desperately trying to lie about their inflation
based irehue exposing their leftist cope
thirdies exposed yet again

>>213994622
I don't undestand this shit.
I earn 50k USD/year on a remote tech job
Have 200k saved.
I don't qualify for a visa.
However, I see loads of lowlife mulattoids that simply start living there like it's nothing.
I don't understand this shit. They have to be illegal

>>213994738
Bolsonaro supporters are compulsive liars.
Just like any average Trump supporter.

>>213994878
They all have Italian or Portuguese passports which allow you to work across the EU

>>213994888
>Bolsonaro supporters
Para de perder teu tempo lambendo ovo de político
Preto burro

>>213994906
Lide com fatos.

>>213994925
O fato é que politico nenhum dá a minima pra tu e votar não muda absolutamente nada
Só quem liga pra essa merda é tiozão boomer e pardoid metido a engajado

>>213994888
Stop telling the truth. Where have you ever seen such a thing?
We live in a dictatorship o algo.
Prices are skyrocketing.
Bolsonaro is going to jail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKWTvL9VxQM

>>213994953
E quem disse que eu apoio político? Apenas falei a verdade, os apoiadores do Bolsonaro são mentirosos compulsivos.

>>213994902
>Italian or Portuguese passports
That can't be it. It costs non-irrelevant amounts of money and people with Euro citizenship will not work doing ubereats deliveries

>>213994999
I see ethnic Germans working for the official minimum wage, why would Italians be any different

>>213995075
They do that too.
They are all famous for cleaning latrines.
Also, that's why he's being rejected, they want a low-skilled idiot to clean latrines.

>>213995098
It certainly is easier to enter the EU as a low-skilled worker than a uni graduate one. If you are a white collar worker, when you apply for the job your employer has to prove to the authorities that he couldn't find any specialist in the EU for the same role + you HAVE to earn at minimum around 40 000 euros a year. Meanwhile the pay and the EU workers priority requirements are waved for blue collar workers, if you a welder or a nurse you can legally become a German slave for the minimum wage without any labour competition or wage requirements that white collar workers face.

>>213995157
I am talking about Germany specifically. I am sure it's different for other countries but there's a lot of states with worse demographics and more severe labour shortage, so it's likely you can find more lax requirements than the German ones

>>213994999
>It costs non-irrelevant amounts of money
I guess some people think it's worth even taking a loan from the Colombian mafia if you can work in the EU afterwards.
>people with Euro citizenship will not work doing ubereats deliveries
why not? It's not like only middle/upper-class people can apply for such citizenships, a lot of lower-class Brazilians qualify for it as well.

kek they're seething

>>213995098
>They are all famous for cleaning latrines.
umm sweetie you have clearly no idea about Europe, that's what eastern Europeans are known for
Latinos in Europe are famous of their pussy slaying abilities, being great dancers and giving fun to Euro women. There aren't any other stereotypes about them.

>>213995157
I work just like him. My boss literally lives in Latin America, lol. In Colombia, to be more specific.
There is no advantage in going to Europe earning 50,000 euros today.
Until last year, any Brazilian could enter Portugal for free, and Italians could easily obtain citizenship, but now the party is over. Those who will feel it the most are the skilled workers who wanted to live abroad.
In any case, Germany still advertises for Brazilians to go to Germany.
Europe is full of qualified professionals, but what it lacks are precisely UBER drivers and waiters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLCkjETLKpc

>>213995197
>but there's a lot of states with worse demographics and more severe labour shortage
Like? Afaik Germany has literally the worst demographics in this sense that it's the oldest society in Europe and has the lowest share of working age population. Ofc Im talking about somewhat relevant countries so please don't bring me the data from Liechtenstein or something where there are like 3.5 jobs to offer overall.

>>213995276
I wish I could do a reverse thing and emigrate to Brazil but sadly I don't have any skills that would be useful in Brazil.

>>213995306
It's only worth coming to Brazil if you have some qualifications. If you don't, it's awful.
The middle class lives better in Brazil than in Europe. The poor live much worse.

>>213995276
Germany doesn't lack uber drivers and waiters. What Germany lacks is construction workers, nurses, BLUE collar workers, you need at least some specialized education and be willing to work with your hands because sure as hell Germans don't want to. For the unskilled labour Germany already has a bazillion of students, refugees and unemployed people.
>>213995290
Italy. I thought Belgium is older than Germany but I was wrong.

>>213995320
Yes, that's exactly what the video is saying.
It's literally a DW advertisement trying to attract Brazilian labor. But that's extremely specific.

>>213994615
Hahahahahaha no. Everything is ridiculously expensive. You nights paying 6 bel for a soda pop

>>213995276
idk about brazil but the biggest advantage of western cunts is not living in some run down shithole tbqh

>>213995320
>Italy
it doesn't have "severe labor shortage". The other way round, it has huge unemployment.

>>213995399
>>213994888

Stop.

>>213995276
>There is no advantage in going to Europe earning 50,000 euros today.
I really, really REALLY don't like living among brazilians. Petty, stupid, loud people without a shred of common sense.
I'm considering moving to Northern Portugal or Taiwan

>>213995409
Unemployment because Italians are like Germans, they don't want to work the shit jobs like construction or nursing. The Italian white collar market is not latrge enough to absorb all the money hungry Italians. Those Italians who are willing to do the shit jobs don't stay in Italy but either go to Switzerland or the Nordics, so they end up with an oversupply of graduates and lack of blue collars as well.

>>213995423
You can’t full me bruh. I was really in Ireland for 2 years, now I’m back in this shothole and everything. Is ridiculously more expensive. A fucking bakery treat is like 15 brl now. Gasoline 6,60… etc… the prices of everything is completely fucked
You probably didn’t notice bc maybe you are a zoomer and also you stayed in shitzil.

10 bel for this shit they used to be like 5 bel back in the G

>>213995495
12 brl for a fucking coxinha.
I used to pay 3 euro for them in Ireland and like 7 brl before moving to Ireland. Just nuke this shithole already

>>213995474
desu i don't get why alcohol-run cars aren't more popular in the world, it could help many countries stop being dependent on importing oil from politically hostile countries

>>213995442
germans dont want to work in engineering either

13 brl for 150g of Shitty “mozzarella”

>>213995525
I want to work like this.
What is the best country for that?

>>213995525
Not true. The percentage of people graduating in stem/engineering degrees is higher in this country than it is in most of the west. The demand is just even higher (or used to be)

>>213995474
What part don't you understand about wage growth being above inflation for three years in a row?

>>213995595
yeah but most of them dont want to work in engineering. everyone competes for the fake e-mail jobs or something like product manager. no one actually wants to work in a factory even if it is engineering

>>213995474
>>213995495
>>213995553

Salary above inflation.
Average household consumption has grown over the past three years.
You're an idiot.

>>213994888
>brazils unemployment
Pt considers unemployed welfare leeches and employed well known gimmick

>>213995639
In Germany you are legally considered employed if you work at least 1 hour per week. Brazil is not the only country in the world loving with the love of cooking the books

>>213995625
Salaries are still the same shit most ppl are still making 2 to 3 grand
Which was the same as 2 years ago but bow the prices of everything skyrocketed. Country is in shambles

>>213995639
In Germany you are legally considered employed if you work at least 1 hour per week. Brazil is not the only country in the world with the love of cooking the books

>>213994617
its just poland. Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria are all somewhat affordable

>>213995625
Even a fucking uber left wing magazine knows that prices skyrocketed THO.

>>213995726
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk jajajajajaja

>>213995732
Ofc Globosta will try to blame everything BUT lula, but still they are saying prices skyrocketed

>>213995671
Most gobs around the world will try to manipulate statistics

>>213995639
>>213995661
You're literally arguing with data MACACO.
Household consumption has grown MACACO.

>>213995625
Não sou bolsogadista, mas já tava intankável e ficou pior
Fora Taxxad taxando tudo que pode

>>213995495
it'd cost 2.50 euros or something here

>>213995806
Imagina se fosse.
Macaco.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybbXjviKX0Q

>>213995818
I know. It’s now 10 BRL. Lmao a nigga can’t even eat a fucking coxinha (Brazilian signature snack) anymore.

>>213995749
purchasing no, but you can become a rentoid in hungry even in Budapest

>>213995806
Yes.
Why not post the actual price of food?

>>213995803
>data manipulated by PT.
Lmao
Lula is notorious for faking data, he even said it publically. Anyways, stay happy paying 15 bel for a ficking ham and cheese rissole and 40 brl for cage caboclo
Jesus Christ this shithole is done for

>>213995818
He's just manipulating things to try to make political propaganda because he's mentally ill.

>>213993339 (OP)
But weren't you always complaining about Macacoland being superior back in Direland?

Make up your mind, you HAVE to pick a shithole t defend on /int/

>>213995904
Now that I’m back and seen the current state of this hellhole I can easily say Ireland is far superior

>>213995853
How does this even make sense?

>purchasing no
If you manage to save up like 25-40% purchasing is probably better and it is what most people (are aiming to) do

>but you can become a rentoid
You can become a rentoid in every place in the world, how is this an argument

>>213995898
You are showing a snack that costs 10 reais. The price of 500g of chicken.

>>213995899
Am I? Literally every media outlet (even the left pod ones) are saying prices have skyrocketed

>>213995943
So how did household consumption increase?
What increased was coffee and olive oil.
I literally do my shopping macaco.

>>213995789
>>213995732
>>213995899

Man, if USA invades this country and start to kill socialists I would help them
They are such liars, incredible
Criminal factions literally dominating cities

>>213995904
Ireland is pretty bad though. Same salaries as Germany, higher costs of food and basic goods, insane rent. Dublin alone houses 20% of the country's population and rent there reaches 1000 euros for a single room. How many cities in Germany can boast of such rents?

>>213995969
>>213994888

Novamente, imagina lutar contra dados e mostrar um salgado que custa 10 reais pra defender o Mito que vai ser preso.

>>213993339 (OP)
Is this you by chance?

>>213995934
>You can become a rentoid in every place in the world
hehe, no, sweetie. there are cities in poland where rent + utilities are over half of an avg salary, so thats not feasible

hungry lacks that, so I said its still *somewhat* affordable

>>213995963
Increased compared to when? When the pandemics and lockdowns devasted the economies of every on earth?
Idk all I know is that things are much more expensive now according to my own experience.

>>213996005
That's exactly him. A complete moron.

>>213996022
Uberinho looks at a graph. At least learn how to read a graph.

>>213996005
He is a literal retard.

>>213996041
Ok pal have fun.

>>213995990
direland is extremely bad for young pypo rn yes

but to what extent Sao Paolo or something (which would be the fair comparison) is better is the matter of debate

>>213996005
Brazilian leftists are mentally ill? Breaking news

>>213996066
Rent also skyrocketed in most places in Brazil except in bumfuck nowhere of

>>213996018
Poland has somewhat higher salaries and rents. But these numbeo site numbers are not reliable at all anyway

>>213996077
He is a fervent supporter of Bolsonaro.

>>213996093
Gas is basically pandemic levels

>>213996155
Bolsonaro vai preso.
Xilindró.

>>213996090
polling is better than guessing I guess

>>213996088
just build an illegal bungalow for $20k o algo. I dont think most Brazilians participate in the formal housing market

>>213996192
Juízes bostileiros estão literalmente igual baratas tontas

>>213996192
And lula Will die soon and so will his ally maduro. Then lefttards will literally have no heirs. There’s plenty of right and Center right candidates with potential. But no left winger will take ex con mulas place.

>>213996232
Poderiam ir presos também.
Bolsocucks presos, juizes presos.
Toda a escoria presa.

>>213996204
I dont have to guess I live here

>>213996258
Lula will die after 2030.

>>213996284
and what seems off to you, the salaries, the rents, both?

>>213996292
And nobody will replace him. Taxxad? That nigger who whispers to pronounce the letter s? Fuckin Jean Willy’s? Lmao. Left wingers are done for as soon as lula dies in his Atibaia mansion.

>>213996350
I want to see when they find a candidate.
Twenty-four years of PT in this century.
And you guys are still hopeful about something.
At least I'm a realist.

>>213996438
They won’t.
Only mula is powerful (and still needed to make huge cons sessions such as Alckmin) enough all other left tards are small time. Bolsonaros sons would sweep any other leftward, not to mention nikolas, Tarcísio, Caiado etc..
Nikolas for example has more followers on insta than Mula

>>213996497
>Nikolas
Evanjegue would make a great president.
I'm not even joking.
Excellent for me, since I already have a good life.

>>213996529
Nikolas would beat any leftist except lula judging by their social media performance, views, interactions etc..
Lula literally has no heirs

>>213996302
It is hard and almost pointless to average everything imo. Lot depends on the sector you work in, etc. Hungary is not like Western Europe, the bare minimum is unlivable here, there are no cushy fake 30 hour government jobs and social housing like in Netherlands. But net salary is probably higher in the city. In 2024 Q1 (which is latest data probably as they don't frequently post geographical breakdown on salaries) the net salary, assuming no tax benefits was already closer to like 1400 eur. It is probably a bit higher now. 1276 eur is basically the country-wide average net right now with deductions included.

Center - non center distinction does not make sense, District II and XII are the most expensive districts here. Sure V and VI is pretty expensive too but most of VIII is a lot more "center" then like XII and its much cheaper. Prices per square meter is not a linear curve either, above a certain square meter when things get expensive the price per square meter also comes down a bit. For new developments price per sqm is between like 2200 and 6500 eur, depending on location. But you need to pay around 650 eur with utilities if you want to live alone in a 30-40 sqm apartment, that is true. But lot depends on luck too, you need to find a good deal

>>213995726
These countries might be a bit better than Poland or Czechia in terms of housing affordability but let's not pretend it makes them objectively affordable.

>>213996018
I don't think there is really such a big difference between spending 40% vs 50% of your salary on rent, that's definitely not enough to say that the former is affordable and the latter is not.

Real affordability starts from <25% imo, so that's what Germans had in the 1990s.

>>213996593
Btw the other day I was looking at San Francisco, which supposed to be this ultra expensive, one of the most expensive areas on the entire continent, a place where the median compensation in the fire department is 260k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USD, more than an european doctor. So this place that supposed to be this unaffordable, unlivable expensive place, well you can buy a beautiful home for under 1 million usd.
It is absolutely unreal how bleak things are here and Europe in general

>>213996796
115 sqm condo for 650k. mind you this is like Berlin level price, below of a new apartment there of the same size. This supposed to be this ultra expensive unaffordable city there in America
Literally ez mode cheapcode country

Brazilian anon buckbreaking /int/ from both sides of the Atlantic

>>213996796
Why do you think Budapest is so cheap comparing to Warsaw/Prague, especially that it's a super-touristy city? Is it because there is a lot of construction going on? Or simply there has been always enough housing stock because Hungary has been an urbanized society for a long time so there is low migration to the city from rural areas now + Hungarian population (besides Gypsies) is on average quite old by EE standards (low TFR already in the commie era) so more old people die and more houses are available for rent? Also I guess Hungary doesn't get a lot of Ukrainian immigration/refugees, unlike Poland/Czechia (though I might be wrong?)

>>213996915
Hungary has 30 000 Ukrainian refugees.
>900 000 people in Poland
Yes, there's 900 000 refugees because the rest are the Ukrainians that were working and living there before 2022 on work visas.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/ukraine-refugees-eu/

>>213996930
$400k is such an unreal number it’s almost like reading about some thirdie country where a person earns 1 million shitcoins a month which is actually worth £1k, except this is America and $400k is proper money

>>213996915
>Why do you think Budapest is so cheap comparing to Warsaw/Prague
Is it? If you adjust for salaries? Both those places have higher average im pretty sure

>Is it because there is a lot of construction going on?
No. Warsaw I think has orders of magnitude larger construction industry. Here its basically collapsed. Dark line is sold, orange is permits. This year it is going to be more definitely as there is a smaller construction boom. But does not reach Warsaw levels

>more houses are available for rent?
According to the official census from 2022 there are like 160k empty apartment in Budapest alone. But the real number is probably lower. + you can remove a lot of apartments that are like Chernobyl tier and would require massive renovation efforts to make them livable. Still, there are quite a few apartments not on the market because there is no property tax so no incentive to rent them out

>doesn't get a lot of Ukrainian immigration/refugees
Yeah very few compared to like Poland

>>213997044
Then Trump goes around the world and convinces his own and overseas morons that Europoors are taking advantage of his country. We should buy more American stuff to make the average American earn $100 000 annually

>>213997130
Also people have been moving to the suburbs outside the city for a long time. Pest country has increased by almost 300k people since 2000 meanwhile the city went down by 100k+

>>213997130
>Is it? If you adjust for salaries? Both those places have higher average im pretty sure
Well, I can only base my claims on widely available data than numbeo and they show like it is notably cheaper, whether the data itself is valid is another thing but I don't have anything else.
>This year it is going to be more definitely as there is a smaller construction boom
Is it because of lack of demand or strict zoning laws (Poland basically doesn't have the latter).
Btw, when i think of construction boom I say about housing ofc. If you follow constructions across Europe that impression might be a bit skewed because they mostly focus on office buildings/skyscrapers which doesn't say much about how much actual housing is built.
>Still, there are quite a few apartments not on the market
In Warsaw it's also a problem. Either because the building is in such a poor state so it's simply impossible to live inside while the city doesn't have money/doesn't care to renovate it, or because Polish boomers are afraid to let their second apartment out because Polish rental market is very unorganized and we still have commie laws in force that protect the tenant to a ridiculous degree, if you want to evict a tenant who doesn't pay rent, you'd have it easier to climb Mt Everest in flip-flops. So many people prefer to keep their flat empty (especially that similarly to Hungary, property tax is extremely low here) rather than put them on the market. Though sometimes the boomers are also overreacting, like they say they won't let their flat out because they are afraid the tenant's dog might scrap their precious half-rotten wardrobe from 1981.
Generally the biggest problem for tenants in Poland is that we don't have an institutionalized rental market like Germanic countries do so you cannot expect a stable, long term contract and you will never feel "at home" in your apartment.

>>213997445
>Is it because of lack of demand or strict zoning laws (Poland basically doesn't have the latter).
Zoning is an online psy-op imo, its mostly about financing. Countries, almost every country in the world used to build much more b4 2008 with the exact same zoning. Its all about finances, interests, energy cost, construction materials, labour costs, etc.

>Either because the building is in such a poor state so it's simply impossible to live inside while the city doesn't have money/doesn't care to renovate it, or because Polish boomers are afraid to let their second apartment out because Polish rental market is very unorganized and we still have commie laws in force that protect the tenant to a ridiculous degree, if you want to evict a tenant who doesn't pay rent, you'd have it easier to climb Mt Everest in flip-flops.
Yeah its the exact same here

>Generally the biggest problem for tenants in Poland is that we don't have an institutionalized rental market like Germanic countries do so you cannot expect a stable, long term contract and you will never feel "at home" in your apartment.
Yeah. Such systems never developed because renting was not as frequent. Ofc a country like Germany where half the people rent, incl seniors need a much more regulated system. Here it hardly matters what the paper says, the landlord can just decide they need the apartment 2 weeks from now on, what are you gonna do? Go to the court? Youre better off just finding a new apartment

>>213997693
that being said a friend of mine has been living in his apartment for like 5+ years, rent barely has changed if all. Some people get lucky but its rare. Most people tend to move around and change apartments

>>213997693
>the landlord can just decide they need the apartment 2 weeks from now on, what are you gonna do? Go to the court? Youre better off just finding a new apartment
Same here. Funnily enough, if you're really desperate you can simply stay in your flat and not pay rent and it's hard to evict you but well, if you're a more or less normal citizen it doesn't make sense either because after 5 years of legal battle the landlord actually might get you evicted somehow and then you will have to return all the costs + you had a lot of stress in between so normies just don't want to bother and if they get an eviction notice, they simply leave.
But well, if you come from a family with "socioeconomic reasons" and it doesn't matter to you what court costs you will possibly have to pay - because you don't work, don't earn anything legally so no one will ever collect any money from you - then it's worth simply to sit in the apartment, not pay the rent, even change the door so the landlord couldn't enter the apartment, and just live your life. And people like this are the reason why many owners are afraid to let their apartment out, because if you find a "wrong" tenant, you basically lost the apartment for a long time.

>>213997750
>that being said a friend of mine has been living in his apartment for like 5+ years, rent barely has changed if all.
Well, my parents are landlords themselves and they also prefer to charge their tenants a little less than average market rates, but be sure that the tenant is a decent person and won't just stop paying the rent overnight and they will have to go through that whole eviction procedure. So my parents' tenants usually live in their apartment also for quite a long time by Polish standards (several years) because both sides are happy with that.

>>213994878
OP himself is a dropout and used to work as a deliveroo there, then as a customer service clerk in an airport

>>213993339 (OP)
Why are there so many Brazilians in Ireland?

I don't get it, why don't countries just Band foreigners not living there from buying property? That would solve the housing crisis overnight

>>214001434
>27.338
Is that many???

>>214001595
Yes

>>213993339 (OP)
Welcome back uberino

>>214001595
I guess the globohomo hellscape that is Dublin makes it look like there's more than that

https://brazildaydublin.com/

>>214001556
line must go up