Thread 214008269

>>Unlimited resources of the New World
>>yet not a single scientific breakthrough

What causes the sterility of that rock?

blew my mind when i realized spain contributed nothing to humanity but everyone still worshipped them

>>214008328
>everyone still worshipped them
who is it?

>>214008374
everyone loves spain nowadays.

>>214008269 (OP)
6 quadrillion years of BLACK MOOR occupation

>>214008463
Curiously, the moors who occupied Spain were more scientifically advanced.

Too busy having sex.

>>214008731
they were but thats not really related to the initial topic

>>214008816
their fertility rate is like 1.0 and that's considering african immigrants are carrying them

>>214008269 (OP)
grug grugga me no understand advanced peepo like amerindian, too busy grugga grug teach me potato harvest grug

>>214008846
Could it be said that the Moors are more intelligent than the spaniards?

>>214008922
>having sex means having kids

>>214008412
You will too

>>214009101
LOL

>>214008269 (OP)
We discovered the existence of neurons. Look up Ramón y Cajal.

By the way, growing up I thought we had two notable scientists, one called Ramón and the other Cajal. I felt so cheated when I found out Ramón y Cajal was the name of s single person

>>214008731
Completely untrue

>>214009101
I don't speak gallego, I don't understand

>>214008328
They wrote the first modern novels (Lazarillo and Don Quijote), they were the first books written in modern prose (and the first one needed to be released anonymously too). Before that it was centuries of writing in couplets, sonnets and all that formulaic bs and a lot of it was just about Jesus Christ, Lady Mary, the Saints and so on

>>214009204
Every time they want to demonstrate their progress they can only mention Cajal, curiously the Italian guy did all the work

>>214009281
That was Basque, you imbecile.

>>214009119
im not sure about that, modern day NA is a shithole and spain is one of europes best countries. but the moors back then were far superior to the iberians. conquering requires much more manpower than defending and they got their asses handed to them until reconquista
>>214009309
i exaggerated with nothing but spain has produced so little in terms of science etc compared to the muslim world (arabs, persians, ottomans) and MUCH less than greeks, italians, french, germans, and english. i assume part of modern day spanish uberpatriotism is that outside fighting they really never did much whereas the chinese, the indians, the muslims and other europeans had their periods of greatness

>>214009448
I knew you were a tunisian.

The islamic golden age was a complete meme pushed by a mentally ill irish bishop, with the tiny few contribs being done by heretics and apostates and non-muslims (mostly claiming zoroastrians as muzzies) - but utterly unoriginal rehashing of the Greeks and Indians.

Even the "translations" were by and large not used, with almost all the progress being spurred after Greek texts from the Byzantines flooded Europe and direct Latin translations were done.

The largest muslim contribution is arguably coffee.

>>214009740
>I knew you were a tunisian.
??? didnt even read the rest of your post fuck off schizo

>>214009196
Is the moroccan maybe his own species?

>>214008412
I'd rather worship Italy

>>214009448
Please please please bring up al razi, averroes, al khwarizmi, avicenna, al farabhi, al sarakshi, etc.

>>214009837
No and that's quite racist!

>>214008269 (OP)
. Miguel Servet – Discovery of Pulmonary Circulation (16th century)

First description of how blood moves from the heart to the lungs and back.

Fundamental for modern cardiology.

2. Santiago Ramón y Cajal – Neuron Doctrine (19th–20th century)

Won the 1906 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

Showed that the nervous system is made of individual neurons, not a continuous network.

3. Severo Ochoa – RNA Synthesis (20th century)

Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1959.

Helped understand how genetic information is transcribed in cells.

4. Juan de la Cierva – Autogyro (1920s)

Invented the autogyro, a precursor to the modern helicopter.

Crucial step in aviation technology.

5. Blas Cabrera – Magnetism Research (20th century)

Pioneering studies in physics, particularly magnetic properties of matter.

Advanced understanding of solid-state physics.

6. José Echegaray – Contributions to Mathematics and Engineering (19th century)

Developed theories in algebra and differential equations.

Also applied mathematics to engineering problems.

7. Francisco José de Goya – Early X-ray Photography Concepts (indirectly)

Although more artistic, Goya experimented with photographic techniques that foreshadowed imaging science.

8. Ignacio de Loyola – Early Work in Psychology and Human Behavior (Jesuit contributions, 16th century)

His spiritual exercises influenced studies of cognition, attention, and human motivation.

9. Margarita Salas – DNA Replication and Amplification (20th century)

Developed methods to replicate DNA in vitro.

Her work contributed to modern biotechnology and forensic science.

10. Leonardo Torres Quevedo – Remote Control and Calculating Machines (late 19th–early 20th century)

Invented remote-controlled devices, analog computers, and early chess machines.

Pioneer in automation and computing.

CRISPR technique was also created by a Spaniard: Mogica.

>>214008269 (OP)
1. Francisco de Vitoria (1483–1546)

Considered the founder of modern international law.

Argued for the rights of indigenous peoples in the Americas and the limits of colonial power.

2. Domingo de Soto (1494–1560)

Philosopher and theologian who contributed to natural law and economics.

Early ideas about just price and fairness in trade.

3. Luis de León (1527–1591)

Poet, theologian, and humanist.

Promoted the study of classical languages and literature, combining faith and reason.

4. Francisco Suárez (1548–1617)

Philosopher and theologian, influential in metaphysics and political philosophy.

His work influenced both European scholasticism and later thinkers like Grotius.

5. Benedicto de Spinoza (although Dutch, influenced by Salamanca)

Not Spanish, but his rationalist philosophy had roots in scholastic debates.

Useful to mention in context of Salamanca’s influence on European thought.

6. Juan de Mariana (1536–1624)

Historian and philosopher, advocate for political theory.

Wrote about tyranny, monarchy, and the moral limits of power.

7. Alonso de la Vera Cruz (c. 1507–1584)

Philosopher and theologian in New Spain (Mexico).

Integrated Aristotelian philosophy with local teaching and practical ethics.

8. Melchor Cano (1509–1560)

Theologian and philosopher.

Important in systematizing scholastic theology and rational argumentation.

9. Pedro de Valencia (1555–1620)

Humanist and theologian.

Critic of the mistreatment of indigenous populations in the Americas.

10. Juan Luis Vives (1493–1540)

Philosopher and humanist.

Pioneered modern psychology and education, emphasizing empirical observation and ethics.


Do you want more?? And we were a Top historic world empire, named oceans (Oceano Pacifico), islands, countries, thousands of rivers, mountains (Colorado Canyon), etc.

We worked more than any other nation in the history of Mankind, more than the Roman Empire or any other.

>>214009448
>numerals and zero
Brahmagupta

>algebra
Greeks for the most part, particularly Diophantus, partially brahmagupta

>al razi
Huge apostate/heretic who even wrote about the fraudulent tricks of the prophets lmao
Called the quran absurd
Thought to be a zoroastrian

>optics
Haytham's work had very little impact, "muh scientific method" didn't start with him but mostly with the Greeks, chief of which being Aristotle.

I could go on, your best philosopher was probably al ghazali, and he was nuts

>>214010027
>>214010087
My dude, no need to have to explain ourselves but attack their ridiculous narratives.

Not to mention the ridiculousness of the false equivalence they do comparing Single-Nation entities like Spain to "the Muslim world", when the adequate comparison would be "Christendom"

>>214010183
but the umayyad, the ottoman and saffarids etc all mogged the spanish..

>>214010027
>>214010087
Also you didn't mention the chaddest schizo ever: Ramon Llull and his Ars Magna

>>214010087
>>teologia and poetry

>>214010249
>again runs from my challenge as in the other thread

When are you going to go through every single source cited by Ibrahim, diaspoo-rat?

Saladin is still a dog

>>214010283
holy fucking schizo

>>214008269 (OP)
All the scientific minds of the caliphates were kicked out.

this thread just made me realize how much i love discussing middle eastern civilizations

>>214010183
I am not just talking to him. I just want other people to see how ridiculous he is. Attacking a Top 5 country in History. The best country in Europe to live. Top1 Tourism in the world. Top1 country in the world in Nature Biosphere reserves. Top1 country in the world in UNESCO World Heritage sites (50 in Spain plus 40 more in America built by us). Etc.

It seems that much of this may ultimately be of little consequence.
The utilization of collective human advancements for individual or cultural aggrandizement is subject to scrutiny.
It is ceetainly not a "civilised" approach.
The affiliation and historical synthesis of any kind of human knowledge is important to understand, of course, but it still contributes to a larger body of information.
I am curious as to why people argue over these matters.

>>214010502
the internet is a miserable place

>>214008269 (OP)
>oh my science!!!
this is the most retarded take, why would every country specialize in the same thing?
even then i can name you some fast like the submarine, steam engine, the first scientific expedition (Malaspina), mop, space suit, calculator, cable car, syringe, epidural administration, razors
hoy many continents has your country discovered? how many El Quijote has it written? how many wars has it won? how many naval and land formations and tactics has it designed? how many people has it converted? how many people has it civilized? how many people speak your country's language? how widespread is your country's cusine and culture? how many humans has your country created through breeding? how many universities has it built? how many important theologist does your country have? how many churches has it built? how many cities all the world has it built? how many worldwide vaccination campaigns has it done? how many maps has it drawn? did your country create human rights? did your country do the first circumnavigation of the world? did your country create the first world currency? did your country create globalization and global trade? did your country create the current calendar? did your country create the finest swords in the world? did your country perfeccionate fencing (Verdadera Destreza)?

>>214010027
>>214010087
half of these are literal whos thoughever
I've said it before, scotland has produced more notable thinkers during the 17th and 18th centuries alone than spain during much of its history, while scotland was poorer and less populated
adam smith, maxwell, hume, james watt, graham bell are pretty renowned, meanwhile most people outside of spain haven't heard of even half of those

>>214010555
spanish people should just accept that its not like anyone gives a shit about this irl

>>214010555
Just Adam smith:

Although Adam Smith (1723–1790) is often considered the father of modern economics, many of his ideas were anticipated by the Spanish School of Salamanca (16th century).

Concept of Value and Price

Salamanca scholars, especially Francisco de Vitoria and Domingo de Soto, discussed the “just price”, considering both cost of production and supply-demand balance.

Adam Smith later developed the labor theory of value and market-determined prices, echoing the Salamanca concern with fairness and exchange.

Interest and Usury

Salamanca thinkers analyzed interest rates, lending, and risk, arguing that charging moderate interest is acceptable in trade.

Smith’s treatment of capital, lending, and profit draws on similar rationales.

Money and Trade

Salamanca economists studied money as a medium of exchange, the effects of inflation, and trade between nations.

Smith’s ideas on money supply, international trade, and market efficiency reflect these earlier Spanish discussions.

Human Behavior in Economics

The School emphasized that economic activity is rooted in human ethics and rational choice, not just divine command.

Smith’s moral philosophy in The Theory of Moral Sentiments complements this approach.


NOW FUCK OFF TO BOLIVIA BOLIGUAYO. No real argentine (descendans of Spaniards or Italians) dislike or attack Spain. You are just a brown bolivian.

>>214008269 (OP)
Apologize.

>>214010435
>>214010551
holy meds

>>214010551
>many continents has your country discovered?
Colombas was a italian

>>214010783
He's Galician but even if you fall for the Italian lies that doesn't change anything since he worked under Spain, was financed by Spain and had a Spanish crew
Also half of Italy was Spanish at that time

spaniards fighting for their lives itt

>>214010871
>Saar the genocidal slaver is one of US, kindly take cognizance!

>>214008328
They gave us latinxas

>>214010871
Colombo was from northern Italy, and most of the crew were Portuguese.

>>214010871
That's not an Italian homie, that's a nafri. They're always in other threads spouting similar bs

>>214010988
you do realize how retarded that sounds right?
>checks flag
oh right

didn't they invent submarines

>>214011039
stop humiliating yourself

>>214010982
Best argument itt so far

>>214011201
nice argument
i accept your concession

>>214011001
We've never had any frequent italian flag on /mena/, i think I'd be able to spot him if he were to be a nafri.
I, for one, don't really have a horse in this race nor care for the little adrenaline it seems to pump in people's veins.

>>214010629
>dislike or attack Spain.
He only mentioned an objective fact: Scotland's contribution to knowledge. Why do you think he attacked you?

>>214010629
all 8 of my great grandparents were from sbain actually (4 from galicia, 4 from cataluña mestizaje maligno lol)
my point stands either way, it's bizarre how spain didn't produce any paradigm shifts in basically any field while dominating the world in the 1600s, it's like you put all your points in theology and exploration
when the french and brits dominated they produced a serious impact
then the germans took over and they had significant output
then the soviets and americans, and lately the chinese set the pace
but spain didn't have much of a lasting impact at all beyond the empire's own borders

>>214008328
Hey, they created space suits

>>214010027
IIRC they invented the submarine in Cartagena. I suppose it was an almost simultaneous but independent invention with someone in other countries

>>214011745
Yes, it is called the Age of Discovery and not the Industrial Revolution because reasons, yes, Spain banned the press, to print, to trade and a bunch of other shits because the Religion Wars and that was bad for us in the long run, we also had 150 years of Civil Wars and shits like that in the XIX, the Inquisition lasted till the mid XIX too etc...
Even with all that we have the 4th and the 8th Oldest universities in Europe.

>>214008463
Ya Ali. Ya Fatima. Ya Hussayn

>>214012206
Ya Tusabe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWM9oV5GEO4

>>214008269 (OP)
This Bolivian shifter has been having a melty LMAO

>>214012673
Volver

>>214008269 (OP)
Hispanics are more the artsy than stem kind of guy

we invented the mop
checkmate

>>214013210
Mop the wop

we also invented being cozy and neeting, for which the japs will never forgive us

>>214013240
all our niggas (all ten of them) had papers
unlike woptalians

I want a Blanca Soler gf

>>214008328
they invented siesta

>>214008269 (OP)
Religion

The fact that this argentinan is half catalonian splains everything

And we invented the calculator

>>214008269 (OP)
Franco created Spain, before that not a single guy there believed they were a nation. I've come to realize that since My bisabuela was baptized in Barcelona and I'm pretty sure at that time they considered themselves Catalan

Fun fact is that Christian Spain never beat the scientific and intellectual achievements of Al-Andalus.

>>214008269 (OP)
¿Cuánto te jode que cuando sales a la calle todo esta en nuestro idioma? te oigo

>>214015771
bait or just retarded?