Thread 214081261

did anyone get lasik here or is planning to?
or will you keep having glasses and contacts for rest of your life

you have to be a giga-retard to get lasic

>>214081261 (OP)
>contacts for rest of your life
yes,I don't mind it

>>214081271
why

>>214081271
why though

>>214081261 (OP)
I have poor eyesight but never bothered with glasses or contacts, I simply learned to live with it. It's only annoying when I'm driving at night because I can't see shit, so I need to be extra careful.

>>214081261 (OP)
I got it. It went fine, but I need to get one of my eyes redone because it reverted under the vision quality that my warranty covers for touch ups.

>>214081297
>>214081305
the surgeons who perform lasik never get lasik themselves. ever think about that?

the actual professionals that know the most about this procedure don't trust it enough to get it done.

there's a new procedure where a small lens is implanted into your eye that has far better results. if you are interested in lasik I would recommend that instead.

>>214081261 (OP)
>or will you keep having glasses and contacts for rest of your life
So? Life is short as fuck.

>>214081341
lmao
>>214081360
Do you have dry eyes?

>>214081367
That's not true. The one who did my eyes had gotten lasik himself.

>>214081261 (OP)
My mom did it, she did like it. I don't really care about using glasses, I might end up doing it if my vision gets too bad and I end up with glasses that are very thick and heavy.

>>214081367
moron

>>214081261 (OP)
I was thinking of getting it, but once I learned that it's not permanent, and you have to get it again every 8–10 years, I realized that it's just not worth it.

>>214081261 (OP)
https://endmyopia.org/

>>214081261 (OP)
I'm fortunate to have near zero problems with contacts so I don't want it

>>214081392
Yes for a few months after the operation but now it's about the same as before the operation. I don't feel the need to use eye drops anymore.

>>214081297
>>214081305
the chances of it permanently fucking up your eyes is way higher than they tell you, same thing with finasteride/minoxidil or the covid vaccines

>>214081261 (OP)
My mom did it when she was younger but she had to go back to using glasses some years ago
I personally don't mind glasses, i might get contacts too, so i'm not thinking of doing it

>>214081439
Im very tempted to do it because i hate glasses they keep breaking and make me ugly
My cousin had it a while ago and it went fine

>>214081410
Where did you learn that? That's not how it's supposed to work. As you get older your eyesight will naturally degrade, but thats usually for close vision. You shouldn't have to get it again for myopia and at most you should get a touch up if they under corrected your vision.

>>214081502
stop staring at your phone and go outside

>>214081261 (OP)
I got lasik when I was 24. Best decision of my life.
33 now and I could never go back to glasses. My vision is perfect. The first couple days after sucked major ass but after it healed, I was in fucking awe of how well I could see.
And since I work outside in winter, glasses is an absolute nightmare and fuck contacts.

>>214081576
Well obviously they don't want the goy cattle to have a free solution at hand, doesn't mean it doesn't work though

>>214081530
>Where did you learn that?
Can't remember.

>>214081576
It actually is, you shouldn't indiscriminately burn your eyes, they use a computer controlled laser to reshape your cornea, it is not like it is some retarded kid playing around with that shit.

>>214081502
Do it if you can afford it. About half of it was covered by my job's health insurance coverage but the whole thing was still like 5000$ so ~2500$ out of my pocket.

>>214081576
>never be exposed to radiation it is super dangerous. this one though? super safe! pay up
retard.

>>214081576
So? Cyclophosphamide is derived from mustard gas and is pretty much poison. Do you suggest that people with cancer just meet HaShem instead of getting treatment because it's related ro le bad mustard gas?

>>214081599
did you get PRK or lasik?
no dry eyes?

>>214081576
well radiation is dangerous too yet they use it for xray scans and ct machines

>>214081367
>the surgeons who perform lasik never get lasik themselves. ever think about that?
Not everyone is a candidate for the procedure. Some people have very thin corneas and such

>>214081683
FS-LASIK.
No dry eyes, no problems at all.
My vision went from horrible to perfect and has stayed that way since.

>>214081554
Why would anyone do that when they can just get glasses or lasik

Too much of pussy to get LASIK myself so I'll be staring at this faggot balloon for the rest of my life

>>214081473
Or maybe she didn't got lasik, I think that she removed her cornea and replaced with some lens.

>>214081638
>>214081779
welp probably going to do it
still i am scared of someone peeling off my eye and shining a laser in it

>>214081683
PRK I'm pretty sure will have the longest recovery time and the dryest eyes. I'm not sure what the upside is for that over the newer Lasik techniques. My dad got PRK and he had it rough for about a week. With Lasik you can see perfectly fine right after the operation but you won't want to open your eyes for about 2-3 days due to tearing up and general light sensitivity.

Either way, your optometrist should be the one explaining this stuff to you.

>>214081473
Also just remembered another thing
She went in a van that would take a bunch of people to do it, since it was in another city, even with a nurse that would help people and apply medicine along the way
She had to get eyedrops that would be periodically applied every couple of hours, but the pharmacist got the wrong medicine, he got fucking EARDROPS
She complained they were stinging too much but the nurse didn't care, it was my grandma that noticed they were the wrong thing

>>214081871
Nah, it was lasik, she's just getting old

>>214081968
maybe it was icl lens

>>214081891
For me it was completely painless. I got the eye drops that numbs the eyes and since they offer "calming pills" here I accepted it. I was chilling the whole time.
Day after my eyes were sore and burning. The next day just feeling tired. Third day - perfect vision, fully recovered.

>>214081891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uo_s2VvRNY

>lasik bad!!!
Are people retarded? 50 years ago people wouldve killed for this technology

I have keratoconus so I'm stuck with the blurr and can't ever get lasik

>>214082046
4chan would rather die of the black plague than take normal antibiotics if they got it. Because medicine = bad or something.

>>214081968
No, it wasn't. I remember now, she did lasik, and afterwards she had to get a cornea replacement.

>>214082024
FUCK YOUUUUU

>>214081261 (OP)
Have you considered ICL?

>>214082046
There are people here who believe that raw milk is healthy and that vaccines are harmful.

>>214082160
You're not me

>>214081599
Fuck i want to get one. I hate contacts/glasses when I do sports, I hate seeing like shit, I just want to wake up in the morning and not having to look for my glasses to start seeing decently

>>214082426
same glasses get in the way of everything
cant even kiss a girl with them on

>>214081261 (OP)
No, though It's short and relatively painless

>>214082426
I can only say DO IT.
I don't know how expensive it is in other countries, I paid around €2200 for mine, all included and it was worth every cent.
Like right now I am about 5 meters from my main pc screen (chilling on the couch) and I can easily see the text on my 27" 1440p monitor. Before my surgery I couldn't read without my glasses while sitting right in front of my monitor.

It's like getting a super power.

>>214081261 (OP)
Lol visionlets
>t.20/20 vision chad

>>214082847
>chad
>has to move 8,000 miles across the world just to make $40,000

>>214082895
Crazy how y'all think 40K USD isn't that much. I just converted it into my currency and that's 2 fucking million pounds. Supremely worth it to take a flight to the US to make that kind of money shit not even half of Euro crakkkas in Western Europe make that much. I'm not sure how this is supposed to make fun of him you should've just made a joke about cow shit since it's so much more effective as ragebait

>>214081261 (OP)
i got lasik. It was totally worth it. I'm rich though, so i didn't mind the cost. It is stating to wear off after many years (my vision is getting worse than perfect). My vision is still good enough, that I don't need glasses or contacts. I can't get it re-done under warranty, cause i would have had to go to regular optometrist visits to keep the warranty valid, and that was a hassle.

>>214081297
>>214081305
In the future we will have better surgeries and procedures. Just wait instead of getting dangerous work right now

>>214081844
I want to go there

>>214081576
>pass up a chance to burn up your retina
Grow a spine nigger

>>214083160
>>214082648
I would do it but what will happen when you get older and need glasses to read? Myopia somehow compensate presbyopia and you will not need a glass to read then. You are just changing the kind of glasses you'll need ina few year. Am i wrong or not? I hope you guys investigated this before getting operated

I'm not opposed to laser eye surgery but I am very curious to try the methods described on endmyopia. Yes it seems boring and variable, but you are only spending a little money on cheap glasses with reduced lens. Apparently you can improve something like 1 diopter in 3 months, but the rate of progress slows after that. Also, if I was to get surgery I would probably get SMILE it seems somewhat superior to lasik. Has anyone here tried the Jake Steiner stuff?

I wouldn't recommend it. Wore glasses most of my life, which I didn't mind, but decided to just get it done for whatever reason. Did enough research I thought, read the studies and papers, figured the odds of any of the side effects affecting me where low enough, the odds were on my side. All the doctors said you're a great candidate too.

I'm 5+ years out, still have dry eye that I put in drops for every day, have pretty bad halos and glare, especially at night around light sources like headlights, when I didn't have any before, and one of my eyes was already not 20/20 like a year after the procedure. That's not to say it's debilitating or anything, the brain can adapt to a lot, and I'm fine, can drive at night as well, no issues. Still don't need glasses. But these are all side effects I didn't have before, and would trade wearing glasses again to get rid off.

I won't say there are no benefits, you don't have to worry about them getting dirty, or rained on, moving around while you're exercising, etc. Basically the reasons I initially decided to get it done. But overall, if I could go back, I wouldn't get it done. The places that try and sell Lasik, they are very fixated on 20/20, like that's the only thing that matters in terms of vision. But there are a lot of other factors that go into vision holistically, like dry eye, artifacts like halos, etc., that they tend to just gloss over. I would try contacts or something first, if you haven't already.

>>214082895
Its 160k to you mister

>>214082648
Probably going to need, got some scratches on my lens and can't be bothered to spend more money for gl*sses

>>214083017
in the US that's practically a poverty wage because converting a currency is meaningless when you don't account for living expenses, especially in cities where visajeets would live
better be poor in the US than poor in a thirdie shitholes but still, can't just convert

>>214083421
>I would do it but what will happen when you get older and need glasses to read?
Living a few decades without glasses is worth it. Having bad vision when your older is just natural anyway.

>>214083672
do you know presbyopia starts at 40, youa re still relatively young

>>214083698
My mom got it at 55+. I would easily pay 3k for 25 years of no glasses

>>214083698
What's your point? I was in my 20's, barely able to see without my glasses. I'm now 33. I got a decade without glasses. That alone, even if my vision turned to shit tomorrow was worth it.

>>214083421
who gives a shit about needing glasses later in life lol most old people wear it
why not spend your young life without glasses and worry later with presbyopia when you are older

>>214083857
I have no idea what he's on about to be honest.

>>214083891
>>214083857
im 37 so... im getting close

>>214083891
yeah i would trade my myopia and astigmatism for presbyopia later in life

>>214081261 (OP)
I have lazy eye so I can't do it

I don't know why people are so against wearing glasses
I started wearing them some months ago just because I noticed my vision stopped being perfect and that feeling bothered me, I don't really need them and I could function fine without them but they're such a non-issue that I wear them and forget about them
maybe I'm missing something, like if I had to wear them at all costs it'd create some anxiety or something

>>214084068
you unironically see much better than glasses
with contact lenses and i imagine lasics is even better

>>214084068
If you are active they are an hassle. I rock climb and go to the gym. Used to do judo as well. When I sit in front of my pc I don't care desu. I also look worse with them but that's a minor issue

>>214084062
I think you can get it anyway
>>214084068
I have -3 in both eyes and astigmatism
Im almost blind without glasses

>>214084207
yeah I can afford to take them off in such cases, I guess that's why I don't see the issue (no pun intended)

>>214084209
It's a process, you have to do surgey to fix your ;azy eye,recover and then do Lasik. also no guarantee you'll bring back binocular vision so it might return to being lazy eye again over time

>>214084254
stop with the cope ur just too porr and cant afford lasics getting operated in algeria would prolly give u aids o algo

>>214084254
I have 1.75 in my left and 3.00 in my right. I also have astigmatism. If I had some babby 0.25 shit I would also not care

>>214084286
well that sucks

>>214084068
I havee keratoconus
I see blurry from 4/5 meters onward, but I see fine from close
I refuse to wear glasses because I'm afraid my eyes will get used and I'll become dependent on them even for close range vision

So I just drive in the blurr and shit
When the weather is sunny it's tolerable, but as soon as it's cloudy it's over...

>>214084068
>I don't know why people are so against wearing glasses
Try wearing them in cold weather (which is the majority of the year here)...
Instant fog, wipe them clean, fog in 5 seconds... Completely useless.

i have 20/20 vision so i literally don't care. even if i had glasses i'd just buy cool glasses and look sexy.

>>214084068
Its not a big deal if its small like 0.25 or 0.50 because you can fix it almost instantly by just looking at things in the distance.

>>214084313
He can probably come here and get it for free with my taxmoney one way or another

>>214084374
damn you must be autistic lol
I used to be like this too i hated wearing glasses i was walking around with everything blurry
One day i stopped giving a shit and started wearing my glasses permanently

>>214084398
also happens in humid environments, and contacts are irritating in the humid

>>214084478
I mean, if my keratoconus keeps evolving I'll have no choice at some point
I heard it can get so bad glasses no longer work and I'll have to use specific contact lenses

>>214081261 (OP)
My mum got one because she had some other eye issue that needed to be treated and that got rid of the glasses as well. Looks completely different from what I remember her looking like.

>>214084494
>and contacts are irritating in the humid
I can imagine.
I tried contacts once when I went on vacation in Japan before I got Lasik and it was 33c and 85% humidity. My eyes were hurting real bad. had to go back to my glasses (which of course fogged up in minutes..).

>>214084466
I'm around 0.75 to 1, reading things at a distance is an issue, driving at night is less than comfortable
I think the only situation I'd be willing to beam a laser into my eye is if the alternative was actual blindness, but that's just me

glassesbros and contactsbros why did god curse us with this disability?

>>214084640
I was suprised when I was in poland and I could last all day wearing contacts without fatigue

>>214081261 (OP)
I unironically considered it (my eyes are between -7 and -8D), so I looked into it, and holy fuck is it a fucking scam. I'm not a schizo who falls for /pol/ conspiracy theories, but this unironically feels like one. I would never do this to myself, unless it was actually medically justified (i.e. my eyes had some shit that can't be fixed without surgery). Needing glasses doesn't count as being medically justified, basically everybody will need glasses at one point.
I would never take the chance of potential side effects which would absolutely make my life worse. I find it unbelievable turbo normies are ok with them just so they don't have to wear glasses or fucking contacts which look the same as not wearing anything.

>>214081261 (OP)
Contacts all the way, after LASIK you'll have to wear glasses as you age.

>>214084718
I blame my retarded faggot father. Rest in piss you useless faggot

>>214084718
Humans weren't meant to live the way we do in the modern day looking at screens all day.

>>214084718
No idea. Both my parents and my siblings have perfect vision naturally.
If I wasn't a perfect clone of my dad, I would believe I was adopted...

>>214084718
Don't involve god, it's a consequence of all this time reading and paying attention to screens

>>214084810
>>214084831
I grew up without screens and I still got fucked with shit vision..

>>214084769
I hate sticking things into my eyes no thanks

>>214084865
What were you doing in your childhood? There are other ways to develop myopia, if the eyes don't get enough daylight and you're inside in the dark a lot or something like that. Reading books all day might also do it.

>>214081367
Almost no job involving physical extremities (pilot, mariner, contact sports) allow you to have had lasik. The flap created during the surgery is an unnecessary risk for those activities. Lasik is poor man's prk. It's a lot of corner cutting to make it cheaper and easier to mass perform to peasants.

>>214084986
>What were you doing in your childhood?
Fishing, following my grandpa around hunting, mushroom picking with my grandma, playing knight in the garden etc. Grew up spending most of my time with my grandparents since mom and dad was working overseas a lot.
I didn't get my first pc until I was 17. And back then I didn't really get it and barely used it.
I've read the Lord Of The Rings and Jurassic Park books in my life and that's about it.

>>214084865
>>214084986
Myopia started to proliferate during the industrial age. It isn't screens, it's the lifestyle that encourages indoor time. Norbro is right. It's just extensive eye strain in general that causes myopia, whether that be reading or screenmaxxing.

>>214085080
Lasik is generally accepted now even for pilots, theres just a longer waiting period for healing before you can go back to work than with PRK.

>>214081261 (OP)
i would rather wear glasses than undergo an unnecessary procedure done to my eyes.
the risks are too high and the reward is something i can already achieve with glasses and contacts.

>>214085080
outdated information, lasik is allowed for pilots now
also prk is cheaper and older than lasik
only difference is lasik creates a flap in your eye that supposedly can come off while prk removes flap completly and then regrows after operation, thats why prk recovery lasts longer

>>214083550
You're forgetting the fact that even though living expenses are a thing you can just send a portion of your savings back to your home country and have someone you trust like a brother or cousin buy shit like properties and such which would be laughably cheap for you because of the currency difference, so you have a tidy nest egg when/if you decide to Go Back Mehmet™ that you can use to become a slumlord and milk people for rent. Wouldn't have to work a day in your life after retirement this way. Think of it like the morally bankrupt thirdie's version of social security.

>>214084286
Israel got 10th place in last year's healthcare system rankings near Germany and Norway. I'd just trust your doctors and have the surgeries Anon they definitely know what they're doing.

>>214085230
Well I spent most of my time outside.

LASIK is an outdated garbage surgery
Choose SmartSight, CLEAR or SmartSurface instead

>>214085250
You're right, I didn't notice that. A lot of the jobs I was thinking of allow lasik now. I still don't like the flap.

>>214081914
PRK type procesures don't have the dry eye problem at all, at least not the modern ones lile SmartSurface or Flow

>>214085336
I agree with you if your goal is to exploit that rate between multiple countries, it does feel like you're hacking the system

>>214085198
That's very strange and unfortunate. Sounds like it might be an actual genetic condition then, idk.

>>214085588
If you also factor in thirdie shitholes' tendency to go into death spirals of hyperinflation like my dear country where the EGP has inflated by 520% in 10 years (compared to USD), every property or asset you get through this method of fucking with currencies just continually appreciates in value (local value -- not international) without you having to invest literally anything in the property beyond just buying it. Plus all of our nations are still growing in population and economy so again, things will only get more expensive. I'm sure this could be gamed even further by someone who's brighter/better at economics than me but it's already a good enough strategy even with a sandnigger's IQ like mine.>>214085588

>>214081261 (OP)
you'll be advised to avoid activities that can get your eyes hit like physical contact sports and martial arts, because they become more fragile after the procedure. besides that its fine, just go to a good clinic

>>214081410
it's permanent, but you need to do it when your vision has stabilized and stopped noticeably worsening

>>214081439
>same thing with finasteride/minoxidil
so what's the alternative?

>>214082046
There are people in here who believe the carnivore diet is healthy

>>214086093
eveything in that post is bullshit

>>214086120
It is actually

>>214081261 (OP)
get relex smile instead, fag

>>214081261 (OP)
you vill burn your eyes and you vill be happy

>>214084209
-3 isnt that bad, im -2.5 and i can function without glasses fine

>>214082145
>>214082239
>>214086120
My social media is filled with people drinking raw milk and eating meat with honey on a wood cutting board

>>214086457
My social media is filled with fishermen of the north sea, deep sea researchers, hobby fishermen and mechanics of pre-1990's cars.

>>214086550
Noice

I worked with a guy who got it done and he had random blinking fits from getting flashes in his eyes. Made him look like a retard when people didn't know the context.

idk. when ya gonna older, then ya can't see blurry.

>>214084718
because you rejected god (the sun is god)

>>214086120
Those are smart people.

I have the impression that side effects of eye correction surgery are much more common than the people who make money from it want to admit and most people who had it performed downplay them to save face and not look at retards who gambled their slight inconvenience of wearing glasses to suffering from dry eyes 20+ years after the surgery or being unable to safely operate a vehicle at night lol

>>214081415
Does it work?