Thread 214113927

>The most attractive men in England all resemble French men

Can someone explain this phenomenon?

>>214113927 (OP)
You’re gay and brown.

Norman Aristocracy
The game of thrones guy is a baron

>>214113927 (OP)
they do not look french, and they are not the most attractive men in england.

>>214113927 (OP)
Only the top right one's aryan the others are shitskin mutts but the one in the right corner is a pure north atlantid phenotype the most beautiful one there is

>>214113927 (OP)
1 isn't English
1 is half Greek
none of them look fr*Nch

Log off for a few hours out of shame, Jean-Camille-Dominique Le Cuquald

>>214114087
Lucider mogs him. Right guy has a ugly side profile

This is the most attractive man in England (and the world.)

You can tell he isn't french because his skin isn't brown and his nose doesn't take up two thirds of his face.

>>214113927 (OP)
French? No anon... it's thanks to us.

>>214113927 (OP)
can indians pass for a french man?

Anglos tend to be ugly (except for Australians), they are perfect for racemixing with superior French bvll genes.

>>214115533
Christ cuck genetics

>>214113927 (OP)
They look Celt

>>214114162
he is recessed

homosexual here, the most attractive man in the world is American

>>214115610
>Has brown nipples.

Does someone have the meme of the bald and morbidly obese Englishman on the porch of his house ?

I think he was American, but an American with definitely 100% of English genes.

>>214114109
Who is the half Greek?

>>214116873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_James

>Theodore Peter James Kinnaird Taptiklis

>James was born on 16 December 1984 in High Wycombe.[1][2] He is the son of Philip Taptiklis, a business consultant, and Jane (née Martin), who worked for the National Health Service.[3][4] His paternal grandfather was a Greek refugee who fled to Syria during World War II.[5][6][7] He is also of part Scottish descent.[8] He has two older brothers and two older sisters

>>214116873
>>214117297
So 1/4 Greek, my mistake

>>214114087
Blue eyes are derived from Brown eyes, all Bottom left's skin colour is lighter than top right's.

the most handsome British man is Irish

>>214120299
He's German/Irish tho. And he's the nephew of Micheal fucking Collins (yeah, that Michael Collins, the one who waged war against you guys to free the Irish people, i still find it INSANE)

>>214113927 (OP)
Top left looks Italian ASF. Mixed? I swear to God i've seen his face somewhere

>>214113927 (OP)
Top left looks paki

>>214114052
Exactly

>>214113927 (OP)
3 dorks + 1 sigma mogger

This guys looks french btw

>>214113927 (OP)
Charlie Hunnam doesn't look French

>>214122191
He looks like a member of the British royal family

I thought French people were white

>>214122191
based french shota superiority

>>214113927 (OP)
You’re gay and brown.

>>214113996
The Normans were largely indistinguishable genetically from earlier Anglo-Saxon and Viking invaders, since Normans were originally vikings themselves. They mixed with the French in France, so by the time they came to England they were roughly of 50% French ancestry. They left very little impact on the genetics of England though, and in the 1,000 years since they arrived, they've been completely absorbed by the indigenous population, just as the earlier invaders have been.

>>214113927 (OP)
I've been wondering what type of Englishman Rowan Atkinson is

>>214123877
Me too. But seeing multiple cities of France in videos online made me realize that they look much more like the Portuguese than they do the Germans or even the Belgians despite being right on their borders.

Obviously, frontier regions like Alsace and French Flanders resemble their northern neighbors more, but France as a whole looks VERY Mediterranean, with most people having black hair and olive skin, wherever being Lyon, Dijon, Toulouse, Bordeaux, Nantes, Nice, Orleans or Paris.

>>214123877
>>214124849
damn what did we do to make jews mad again

>>214124849
I noticed this too. I saw a channel of a woman living in France explaining it's culture and I initially thought she was Lebanese or some variant of Latina. She was born French. It was almost the only language she could speak.

they look Israeli (med)

French niggas look like Jews

>>214125074
I'm not mad. I didn't even criticize France. I just made an observation based on various tourist videos that I saw of French cities, such as those by Expedia, World in 4K, etc.

>>214125161
sure shlomo

>>214124849
France covers a large area, so they've got Germanic and Mediterranean types. I don't think it's correct to say they're all Mediterranean looking

>>214125238
But I didn't say that all of France is Mediterranean-looking, just most of it.

I intentionally excluded the largest cities in Alsace, French Flanders, Picardy, Normandy and Lorraine for a reason. In the videos I saw from those places (Strasbourg, Colmar, Lille, Amiens, Rouen, Metz), people appeared more fair-skinned, with brown hair being more prevalent than black and a notable presence of blondes. My point remains that most of the country looks more like Iberia (a place where I lived for 10 Years) than to Germany or Belgium, and I stand by that statement

>>214125167
But I like France

>>214125340
yeah I'm sure you do mordechai

>>214124553
It's insane how angloids are consistent in their cope

And most of the invading force wasnt even from Normandy

>>214124849
Gauls and Latins are from a common family, germanics are more remote

>>214125849
The "latins" certanly didn't share this thought with you

>>214125833
you can't understand the angloid psyche if you don't take in consideration the norman invasion as the initial trauma that founded their entire identity

I'll always remember the first time I talked to a bong on the internet, he spent a lot of time and energy trying to convince me normans weren't french and I had no idea what the retard was talking about at the time, now I get it

>>214125833
Yes I’m sure that no where down the line did rollos descendants ever inter marry with those other Normans of Nordic French background, I’m sure every one of his descendants married only the swarthiest most southern of frogs.

What causes such French delusions?

>>214125833
Interesting we wuzzing going on here

>>214125833
>The great and famous "french" people are foreigners
>The great and famous native french people are huguenot protestants

>>214126007
>the norman invasion as the initial trauma that founded their entire identity
>I'll always remember the first time I talked to a bong on the internet, he spent a lot of time and energy trying to convince me normans weren't french
The bong was right, the whole grounds for the Norman invasion was due to shared to claims to England.

>>214113927 (OP)
You’re gay and brown.

>>214126007
It was the Normans themselves that emphasised their Norse ancestry lol. If there were contemporary English histories of the Conquest it would've just been called "the French Conquest" funnily enough.

>>214126611
>>214126772
case in point

angloids are deranged

>>214126874
Take it up with Dudo of Saint-Quentin or any other historian of that time period. You're delusional if you think it was English historians insisting they were conquered by *Normans* and not "the French"

>>214126874
Do the French actually hate us? I thought that was a meme

>>214126352
Their marriages are recorded you dumb fool

And that's only the duke of normandy he had many vassals with 0% danish blood

>>214127072
Just read the Bayeux Tapestrie, it says FRANK all over it

>>214127134
>The Bayeux Tapestry that was woven by English weavers
Exactly lol.

>>214114162
Bong Joon-ho once said he was a humble and kind person. I believe that's true. Considering he dated a crazy bitch like Kristen Stewart and even forgave her for cheating, he must be quite patient.

>>214127155
the "Telle du Conquest" surely was written by an english speaker and not a french speak

Dumb coper

>>214115610
kys, gunnjeet

based angloids btfo these deluded frogjeets.

friendly reminder
the great and famous "french" we always read history books are foreigners.
the great and famous native french are huguenot protestants, but frogjeets hate them so huguenots are no longer frogjeets

>>214127212
>>214126609
>quotes none of them

>>214127119
Ah, I didn’t even consider those recorded marriages, I guess I will just concede, but one more question before I do, Mr frog, have you seen these marriage records?

>>214127212
i kinda agree with this indonesian black man
among most famous french men, yves montand is italian, and jean reno is spanish
among most famous french women, alizee is of italian descent, and isabelle adjani is of turkish descent

>>214127198
im chinese

>>214127403
what's being a gay asian man in the west?
are you a bottom for white homosexual men?

>>214127228
>Charlemagne
German
>Charles Martel
German/belgian
>Godfrey of Bouillon
Belgian
>Raymond of Toulouse
Spanish
>Philip Augustus
German
>Napoleon Bonaparte
Italian
>Catherine de' Medici
Italian
>Joan of Arc
From Loarraine, therefore German
> Joseph de Maistre
Italian
>Louis XIV
Bourbon, therefore Spanish
>Marie Antoinette
Austrian
>Emma Watson
English
>Mbappe
Arfican
>Zinédine Zidane
Algerian
>Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Huguenot

>>214127440
Bodied that freak

>bongoloid sexpat in seamonkeyland seething about us
why are they like that?

>>214127762
No one sexpats in indonesia wtf
Just call him zainichi

>>214127239
They're in the church they married in you protestant DOG you wouldnt know record keeping or book keeping because you're a PROTESTANT DOG

notice how the anglo's response to us civilizing them is to resent us and spend the rest of history trying to get revenge for the good we did... in a lot of ways they're similar to algerians, really make u think...

>>214127885
I will take that as a ‘no’ then…

>>214127946
The only mistake william made is not genociding them all and only about 80% while keeping the rest as dalit slaves.

>>214127946
>>214127982
You people sound insane

>>214127946
>He says in English

>>214113927 (OP)
This is what French people actually look like

>>214127993
I know first hand that spain has complaints about tourism because of you filthy anglo goblins. I should go there and teach them how to leave you with your face dripping with blood and even uglier than before, again from first hand experience.

>>214128028
Whats this köçek babbling about

>>214128064
Dont you have the entire european continent's reputation to ruin in japan with your discount ticket you filthy bogan goblin?

>>214128028
>I should go there and teach them how to leave you with your face dripping with blood
Doesn't typing internet toughguy cringe embarrass you?

>>214124553
>They left very little impact on the genetics of England though
Yeah on the general population
What makes you think the elite population and the general population would have the same genetics?

>>214128134
As if you need to be tough to beat the shit out of you disgenic goblins.

>>214128087
Don't you have some Turkish bar to be dancing in like your ancestors did köçek

>>214128193
If you want to talk about ancestors remember that one time when william told yours to pack up their shitty redneck farm and head to the mines because the area now will be reforested into hunting grounds?

>>214128142
Well I'm not a member of the elite and I have a Norman surname

>>214128232
>Greek roach watches one YouTube video and thinks he knows everything

>>214128150
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>>214127946
Listen, I made a post about how the Normans used to be Vikings, and you lost your shit. If people are reacting badly, it's because of you personally, not because you're French

>>214128248
Did you get triggered more because the redneck(derogatory) word or because I insulted your shared goblin dalit ancestry when I was talking to the australian goblin?

>>214128291
Post your fat, greasy, hairy belly, Stavros

>>214128301
>bongoloid calling anyone else fat
go glug your down your beer to forget the fact that you ate fish and chips for the 10nth time this week you ugly freak

>>214128291
No it’s just when some wog ESL references an obscure-ish part of English history and thinks it’s some own that he knows about it which is cringe. It’s like a black person trying to flex their knowledge by using the term Anglo Saxon as if they know anything.

>>214128352
So its the latter, got it.

>>214128350
I don't drink, am not fat, and ate fish and chips once this week. Get that brown, manlet gut out

>>214128387
*clap clap clap* congrats, you win an updoot. I dont remember asking for your life story but anyways congrats, if my opinion means so much to you then by all means go get yourself some ice cream to celebrate. You have my permission.

>>214128385
You presume I have any shared ancestry with that Māori nigger

>>214128433
Yea you do, ancestry of filthy goblin getting enslaved by william.

>>214125833
>>214126007
>>214126874
>>214127946

The Normans literally were not "the french". Otherwise we'd call them the French. They were the Normans. It was the Norman conquest. William had a legitimate claim to the English throne as a Norman not a Frenchman. The Norman conquest did not result in France owning England. The Norman conquest ultimately resulted in England owning France.

The French are insanely desperate to claim some credit for England and Britain it's really sad. The Romans weren't the French. The Normans weren't the French. Britain has plenty of Latin influence and virtually none of it is legitimately French in origin. It's plainly either just Roman or Norman. The French are Latinised Gauls. You are a recipient of the same culture that we are and the true giver of none of it. France gave the world no civilisation that it did not already have. The Romans and the Britons actually did. France on the other hand is a jealous barbarian nation that birthed the USA, the first successful anti-european colonial revolution, out of sheer anti-British bitterness. France's greatest achievement seems to be when vikings from Scandinavia conquered England and won a throne they had a claim on. France's second greatest achievement is that France's greatest man fought and lost against us and died in our captivity. France's third greatest achievement being some witch who also fought against us also died in our captivity.

It's just a miserable track record of obsession and inferiority against us

England owned France thanks to the Norman conquest and then Britain liberated France in living history. At no point have we come from you, but French people on /int/ desperately claim that the Normans were totally just French and somehow that means France invented the UK, although in reality France only exists today because of Britain fighting for your survival. Our mistake. We should have let the Germans have you, or joined them

Oh and I've got a Norman surname

>>214128350
>ate fish and chips for the 10nth time this week
Way to show how much of an ignorant retard you are. The economy would never allow for this. Stupid twat

>>214128477
yes, william was nordic, not frogjeet. That means britain is nordic

>>214128287
>>214128486
this is what more than a thousand years of cope looks like, tragic

>>214128486
>The Normans literally were not "the french".
Notice how they utterly genocided you instead of "the french" that one time.

>>214128524
>Tries to insult nordics with false association
dont you smear their name like this when they are not here to defend themselves against such slander anglocel.

Be quiet dirty frenchman stop claiming credit for my Norman ancestors

Scandinavian chads briefly settle in northern France before moving on to Britain for the next thousand years and some brown French mutts from Nice or some shit think they have a claim on Britain, absurd

>>214128536
That wasn't me. This was my post >>214124553

>>214128569
the mindbreak continues

very bizarre

>>214128560
thanks anglobvlls for supporting ottoman so it effected greekjeets till day

>>214128428
Oh, and I'm not ugly. Show your sweaty brown belly

one thing we've learned in this thread is a very easy way to have bongs shit blood is to remind them they've been conquered and turned into human beings by benevolent france, that's just what we do making the world a better place no need to thank us

>>214128520
>we wuz norman n shiet
pretty sure if you were a norman overlord you would be able to afford fish and chips for the 10nth time this week instead of looking for permission from this economy guy as per your dallit slave ancestry.

>>214128486
>Otherwise we'd call them the French.
The english called them french

The french called them Normands because they're regional french

>>214128544
>Notice how they utterly genocided you instead of "the french" that one time.
That literally didn't happen. The Normans were absorbed into the British population. They didn't replace the population you unbelievable retard. Utterly genocided meaning literally not genocided. It's the Norman culture that ultimately ceased to exist, they were absorbed.

mediterranean goblin greek turk retard mutt who knows absolutely nothing about Britain yet won't shut the fuck up

I'm the only one here who has any connection to the normans, not you mongoloid low iq sub humans

>>214128536
>>214128595
The normans weren't the French. The normans were the normans. France has never conquered Britain. Britain has both conquered AND liberated France. You speak English. I don't speak French. I have Norman ancestry. You do not. Stop being obsessed with my superior nation

Some cool Scandinavians briefly settle in your shit country before moving on to our throne that they had a right to and then you claim our throne and country because youre unhappy with your own

Sad as fuck

Britain and France's entire history is Britain treating France better than it deserves and France obsessively hating Britain and treating us as badly as possible

Our grandparents should have let your grandparents all die

>>214128620
>and turned into human beings by benevolent france
or at least you tried, you should have genocided them all instead of being so impossibly idealistic

>>214128648
>That literally didn't happen.
lmao

>>214128620
I'm just surprised by the vitriol of French and, ostensibly, Greek posters. You can discuss the ancestry of the Normans without getting so wild with the insults, surely

>>214128598
you should also let turks be here to defend themselves against false association slander
>>214128613
I already gave you permission to buy ice cream, did you continue your life story because you want a pat on the head? *pats*

>>214128620
All we've learned is they you're some mad that you're an inferior frenchman that you're trying to uplift yourself by associating yourself with us through the Normans. You're so desperate to take credit for us because we're better than you. Some Scandinavians who settled in your country briefly a thousand years ago move on to become a part of our country instead and it's the most important thing in your life. Very bizarre. The Normans were ultimately British.

>>214128630
Nobody would eat fish and chips ten times a week even if it wasn't an expensive. What kind of actual retard are you? You keep talking about dallit slave ancestry when you're from the most mutted and conquered country in Europe, and thats saying something. Weird sub human retard. Who hurt you?

>>214128647
>The english called them french
We call them Normans. You call them Normans. We dont call them French. You dont call them French.

The Normans are Scandinavians who settled in France and became British. End of.

>>214128648
>I'm the only one here who has any connection to the normans
I have a Norman surname too, and am phenotypically North Atlantid

>>214127169
Dunno if true but it's said he pulled a stalker in and just talked about his life's problems. She stopped stalking him after. Says a lot about him

Normans = Vikings in France temporarily, not French by birth

That’s like calling Big Ben a baguette. Stop rewriting English history for your French ego. William brought Nordic axes, not berets and croissants

>>214128713
>You keep talking about dallit slave ancestry
Do you deny that you have an informal but very real caste system because you are closet jeets?

>>214128652
You're an actual ignorant subhuman who speaks my language and uses my world wide web. You probably look like a monkey wearing clothes. You are in no place to talk about who should be genocided you worthless mutt

>>214128667
Where the fuck did you get that figure? You're unbelievably retarded if you believe anything you're saying

>>214128709
>I already gave you permission to buy ice cream
>*pats*
Wtf are you talking about, Stavros? Roleplaying?

>>214128742
There is no caste system and if there was I'd be the magic Norman fairy class that you fucking retards think exists. You've literally got all your information from /int/ shitposts. Youre an ignorant subhuman monkey who doesn't deserve to live

Didn't take much effort to put those two subhumans to shame with facts and logic

>>214128755
>>214128756
>>214128772
Cry about it. I love buck breaking your goblin hiveposting. Im off to sleep because I tired from doing NEET overtime. France is superior to your brick favela and everywhere you set foot outside of it you should not be allowed to set foot outside of it and taint other places with your presence for the 2 days per year you are permitted to leave the mines by your french overlords.

>>214113927 (OP)
>>214113996
Why do you people believe these guys look French? They look distinctively British. Also Normans generally have light colored hair. Black hair with pale skin is extremely British.
In fact I'm pretty sure British people have more jet black hair than people in France. French people tend to have less pale skin but brown hair.

>>214128885
You're a weird subhuman freak who's clearly gay for the French who are inferior to us, so our greater existence makes you this mad

Why are you so desperate for a French man to be your overlord? So fucking weird.

You're an ignorant low iq unemployed mutt subhuman from the other side of the continent. I don't know what British man kicked the shit out of you and what French man nursed you back to health but you are fucking pathetic

Stay out of conversations that have nothing to do with you you clueless braindead subhuman mutt, go suck off a smelly frenchman under a bridge for a few euros you bizarre gay greek troll

I'm a Norman-descended Briton and I say begone

>>214128729
>Normans = Vikings in France temporarily, not French by birth
is this what anglos believe?
this is thirdie tier.

>>214113927 (OP)
this is the most attractive man of england

>>214128993
They were born in France and many full blooded French people probably were among the invasion force but the Normans were still not "the French" and the Norman conquest did not result in France owning England. In fact it led to the reverse.

>>214129006
Yeah? So what?

>>214128993
Rememver, William chopped English necks with Nordic axes, not baguettes

>>214128990
>Norman-descended Briton
That's fucking stupid. At this point all Englishmen descend from the Normans and the other Frenchmen that came to England. Plus seeing as how much they changed what it means to be English, it's rather redundant. Those medieval people who descended from the Normans quickly saw themselves as Englishmen and nothing else despite speaking French. So then why would you?

>>214129041
nothing just pointing out op is gay and doesnt understand the english beauty ideal

Every time we hear the same argument that the Normans weren’t French, it’s always the same old bullshit trying to question the obvious. The only “evidence” some people bring up to claim the Normans were actually Danes are a few highly questionable genetic examples. What is never considered is the obvious: first, the army that invaded England was not composed solely of Normans; most of the invasões were peoples from other northern French regions. Second, and more importantly, culturally which is much easier to prove than genetics, the Normans were essentially identical to other French people. Vikings were decentralized, nomadic societies who spoke Scandinavian languages, used runes for writing, lived mostly off raids and temporary settlements, and had very different social and political structures compared to France. The normans were feudalists, spoke and wrote French using the Latin alphabet, built permanent stone castles for lords as they did in France and introduced Gothic architecture from France into England.


The normans weren't a Scandinavian offshoot, they were, for all intents and purposes, French. Not to mention the Bayeux Tapestry, which clearly identifies the Normans as French, as already mentioned earlier in this same thread.

>>214128990
>I don't know what British man kicked the shit out of you
kek the day this ever happens is the day I choose a spot with a cozy view and cut my veins to wash off the shame of being beaten up by dallit slaves

France is superior to you in every way, your "greater existence" gave birth to brutalist architecture while theirs gave birth to art nuveau and halted your attempt to spread mordor once again. ill let you do the math here on who is superior(I mean human math not brit orc math). Now goodnight/goodmorning.

>>214129034
>>214129053
not even gonna bother but this is fucking wild

>ANGLO ANGLO ANGLO
>NOOO!!!ANGLOIDS HAD RULED 1/3, THEY WOULD ANGLICANIZE THEM, LET'S MAKE A GUILLOTINE CHANGE AND INLUENCE THE WORLD, NOT THE ANGLOS
>NOOO!!! ANGLOIDS APPEARANCE IN MY HOLLYWOOD MOVIES? LET'S SAY ANGLO WOMEN ARE THE UGLIEST
>NOOO!! ENGLISH IS INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE? LET'S SAY ENGLISH IS FRENCH
>NOOO!! LONDON IS A FINANCIAL CITY ALONG WITH NYC? LET'S MAKE PARIS BECOME A ROMANTIC CITY
>NOOOONOOOO RULE BRITANIA RULE THE WAVES

>>214128729
I've already told you this, Kim Bing Bong

First, there were the Northmen also called Vikings
Then, they settled in a part of Neustria, inhabited by Gallo-Franks, and called this part Normandy
Then, they became less than 5% of the Normandy population, population who was called Normans no matter the ethnicity (the same way Bretons and Provençaux and Gascons are just called French)
Then, 100 years latter, most Normans were still Gallo-Franks and some of them were Gallo-Frankish-Northmen (these mixed Normans were like 1/4 Northmen)
Then, William conquered England with Normans with the help of Gallo-Franks from other regions
Finally, people keep calling them Normans even if they were from Flanders or Brittany or Gascony

>>214129070
Also this
Search "Norman" and "French" in the Domesday Book
https://opendomesday.org/
"Norman" is always the name of a person or a place, but you actually find several people called "1 Frenchman"

>>214129073
>dallit slaves
The norman conquest ended slavery not started it you fucking retard. You are literally a gay Greek mutt desperate for a French man to fuck him and you're calling others "dallit slaves" it's bizarre. You're projecting.

>>214129073
>France is superior to you in every way, your "greater existence" gave birth to brutalist architecture while theirs gave birth to art nuveau
Who gives a fuck about architecture? We invented everything that matters. We're the reason you're not working in a field like a peasant.
>and halted your attempt to spread mordor once again.
Then created the USA out of jealousy that we were better than them and doomed the world to American hegemony. America is the west's mordor. France created mordor. Also mordor is a concept from Lord Of The Rings, which is British literature. British literature is the most important literature on the planet.

>>214129073
>let you do the math here on who is superior(I mean human math not brit orc math)
You speak our language and you use our world wide web and you are alive because of our technologies. You hate us and are jealous of us and wish us dead because we're better than you. You cite from our literature and you ignorantly obsess over our history.

You are the orc. It's no wonder you're so desperate to project it the other way around.

I'll be in your nightmares you subhuman mutt, setting you on fire like we did Joan of Arc

I bet that subhuman orc will come back and say goodnight he's going to sleep for a third time. He just cant help but come back to have his subhuman arse kicked across timezones. Imagine going to sleep at this time anyway what a pathetic worm. Up all night crying about superior Brits and then going to sleep and dreaming in English lol

>>214129285
What the fuck did I just read? You have no idea what you're talking about. Read an actual book instead of /his/ posts you complete troglodyte.

>>214113927 (OP)
South East Britons have iron age French DNA

>>214128885
You are the most deranged poster I've met here, congratulations

>>214129548
T'es casse-burnes, tu le sais ça ? Ca fait déjà le deuxième thread

Yes — what you wrote is essentially accurate, but it needs a few clarifications so the historical sequence makes sense.

Here’s the breakdown:


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1. Northmen Normandy

In the late 9th and early 10th centuries, Scandinavian raiders (often called “Northmen” or Vikings) attacked the Frankish coast.

In 911, under the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, the Viking leader Rollo was granted lands in the lower Seine region of Neustria by King Charles the Simple.

This land, expanded in later decades, became Normandy — literally "land of the Northmen."
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2. Demographics in Normandy

The Viking settlers were a small minority compared to the local Gallo-Frankish population.

Over a few generations, most Norse people intermarried with locals, adopted the Gallo-Romance language, and converted to Christianity.

By the mid-10th century, "Norman" referred to any inhabitant of Normandy, not just those of Scandinavian ancestry.
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3. The “mixed” Normans

Some Norman nobles in the 11th century still had partial Scandinavian descent, but it was diluted — roughly what you described as “¼ Northmen” is a reasonable guess for elites with Rollo in their family tree.

Most common people were entirely Gallo-Frankish in ancestry but still called “Normans” for political and geographic reasons.

>>214129601
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4. William’s Conquest of England (1066)

William, Duke of Normandy, invaded England with forces from Normandy and also from other parts of France — Flanders, Brittany, Poitou, Gascony, and elsewhere.

Chroniclers lumped all of them under “Normans” in English sources, partly because Normandy led the campaign and partly because medieval writers often used broad labels for armies.
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5. The label “Norman” after 1066

In England, “Norman” came to mean anyone associated with the ruling elite after the conquest, regardless of whether they were actually from Normandy or had Viking ancestry.

The same thing happens with other labels — like how in medieval England, all Arabic-speaking peoples could be called “Saracens” regardless of their exact origin.
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So in short:
Yes, Vikings were a small minority in Normandy.
Yes, most “Normans” were ethnically Gallo-Frankish by 1066.
Yes, William’s army included many non-Norman French.
And yes, “Norman” became more of a political/cultural label than an ethnic one.

>>214129006
Keep your beak to yourself, schlomo

>>214129073
Go to fucking bed, Stavros

Ah, tout de suite ça ouvre moins sa gueule hein :)
And you James (French name), you're sleeping too? :)

>>214124553
>The Normans were largely indistinguishable genetically from earlier Anglo-Saxon and Viking invaders
Just going to point out that the medieval Normans were French genetically and the Anglo-Saxons were Norwegian genetically. Neither of which resemble you as a modern Angloid. At least you're not Finnish or Iberian. That would be even more embarrassing.

>>214129790
>Anglo-Saxons were Norwegian
But that's wrong. The main difference between Normans and Franks were cultural and linguistic. Normans were just Franks mixed with Danes. They were all Germanic

>>214129790
>At least you're not Finnish or Iberian
At least I'm not some baby dicked expat thinking he's God's gift to Japanese women

>>214113927 (OP)
englishiards and frenchers are the same race

>>214130566
No we're gaul warlords, legendary metalworkers and farmers and they're celtic islanders living in bogs and eating bugs to survive

>>214130620
pre roman and unverifiable