Thread 214248423

Why argentinians and brazilians don't they larp as italian as much as americans do?

>>214248423 (OP)
they just say theyre european without a specific country, which I find interesting

>absorbs the most notoriously fascistic Euro nationalities
>somehow doesn't go fascist while Chile does

kek

I agree, we need more retarded threads about south america
as a matter of fact we need the entire catalog to be dedicated to the intricacies of south america and chikaner bait, not necessarily in this order

>>214248438
My last name is italian, but my mums parents were from Spain, Galicia. WTF am i supposed to say? It sounds stupid when Americans say shit like 'im 40% irish, 50% german, 5% amerindian and 5% SE asian'.

>>214248578
Were just argentine

>>214248423 (OP)
Would my classroom pass as local in italy? What percentage?

>>214248423 (OP)
Every other Argentinian says that their accent is like Italian speaking Spanish and that their nonna was italian or algo.

>>214248423 (OP)
Imo, after Americans, Brazilians are the most insufferable when it comes to le I'm Italian meme

>>214248723
All except bottom right, the 2 chinky girls and hulk

Because Americans are mainly "rootless" people who for some reason have this inferiority complex towards Europe, even though the American "culture" influence is basically the status-quo of the western world.

In Latin America that didn't really happened because people took Native, European and African culture aspects and made it their own "thing". Which is why you don't see as many "we wuz europipo 'n shiet" like they do in the US.
Not saying these don't exist, but these people are usually made fun of and most of the time they aren't even "100% Italians".

>>214248742
Not anymore because everyone grew listening to mexican dubbed cartoons + migration from paraguay and bolivia
But this was the argie accent in the 90s
https://youtu.be/1tdOI0X0phE?si=7cr3YCDORLf2zd-8

i once showed it to some italian tourist and said it did sounded much more like italian (moreso compared to the current oneL

>>214249181
The last dude really sounds like an italian speaking spanish the way he says a few words
I can't say the same for the others but I don't know how much different it is from regular spoken spanish

>>214248423 (OP)
they don't? that's like 50% of their comments here

>>214248423 (OP)
they larp as italian 10x more than americans do

>>214250332
I only see americans fly the italian flag and make big italian festivities

>>214250531
italian american != italian
and i'm talking about 4chan

>>214249084
>esquerdotranny meme
Você é o tipo de pessoa que dá hate na alemã de Santa Catarina por se orgulhar das suas origens. Dilate.

>>214250608
>nooooo we wuz europipo 'n shieeeeeeeet 100% germanic blood

Ok Nativo-Portuguese mutt.

>>214250568
you are lying, Di stefano

>>214250666
Eu sou mesmo, mas existem pessoas que são alemãs tem orgulho disso e tá tudo bem.

>>214249084
Correct.

>>214250608
>Not being a racetard = leftist
If anything it's the opposite kek

>>214250821
>racetard
Até os esquerdistas começarem a mamar a jeba dos afrodescendentes e indigenas, ai sim tá tudo bem mencionar raças.

>>214250731
A maioria dos que se consideram "Alemães" geralmente são os pardolas que tem um parente que é realmente "Alemão" enquanto o outro é mistura de tudo que eu tinha falado.

O meu ponto é que a maioria dos que são realmente "Alemães" cagam pra isso, simplesmente se consideram "Brasileiros" ou no máximo "Gauchos, Sulistas"

>m-mas Oktoberfest em Blumenau
>m-mas [insira evento de uma vila mennonita no meio do nada com população de -1000 pessoas]

O pessoal que se diz Alemão, Italiano ou qualquer merda assim, é geralmente pardola complexado que odeia ser pardo. Que no momento que pisa na Europa e fala "Éu sô ZOROPEU como vocês" acabando sendo zoados. Assim como os "Italo-Americanos e Irlandeses-Americanos" são.

>>214248423 (OP)
i went to europe, spoke italian there, people treated me well, so i have nothing against you folks, but i hate the idiots who larp as italians even though i have this ancestry from my mother and father's side (both from veneto), because everything my family have they earned here, and my life is very comfortable here, so i'm grateful to my country.
as my surnames clearly reveal my origins, it annoys me to suffer prejudice from people who don't like that Bolsonaro guy, though.

>>214250911
>Brazil's whole identity is about its 3 races and miscigenation
>b-b-but the left

>>214250731
>>214250972
you're not german

>>214251062
Pois então qual é o motivo pra se opor a uma dessas 3 raças valorizarem seus ancestrais?
Nem Portugal nós podemos exaltar mais pra esses esquerdistas de merda.

>>214251173
>EFL couldn't understand

lol, LMAO

>>214251173
Seu português não é bom.

thanks for google translate for revealing brazilians identity is race mixing!

>>214251226
>>214251215
>NOOOO THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT WE WERE SPEAKING BROWNTONGUE YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO READ IT
>I really am, but there are people who are German and are proud of it and that's okay.
you are not german
you are not european
you are a brown mongrel country with impure blood

>>214251186
Problema real, nenhum, só é retardado. É tipo um queijo cheio de fungo querer ser tratado como leite puro

>>214251262
>2458 samples

>>214251262
>you are a brown mongrel country with impure blood

That's the whole point you dumb leaf.

>>214251186
Já ouviu falar daquela frase "Um rato nascido num estábulo não é um cavalo"?

É a mesma coisa, voce pode se achar Alemão o quanto voce quiser, mas pra um Alemão de verdade você só é outro pardola querendo passar por branco.

>>214250972
>>214250731
Branqueamiento (integral part of brazilian identity) was specifically designed not to be an equal grounding racemixing program but one destined to "eliminate" dark genes by emasculating dark men and fucking their women.

To pressume equalty rather than domination of one party over other at exoense of the other integrity and masculinity is cynical self-delusion
Latin america is marked by the feminization and emasculation of black and indigenous males and the pimping of their women to european men.
One of the sides was always meant to have their identity, history, heritage and so forth neglected and relegated to a role of submission and docility

>>214251410
Então não existem brancos no Brasil? Porque esses pardolas ficam chorando sobre racismo então?
Reitero, não sou alemão nem branco, apenas odeio pardolas afetados sexualmente.

>>214248423 (OP)
It's because Argentina and Brazil are not obsessed with race while America is

>>214251456
argies and hues are 10x more race obsessed than americans on 4chan

>>214251479
>on 4chan
Thats not real life, HIVan.

>>214251479
>>214251456
>country obsession = race
A serb obsessed with his serbianess or american with italianess is not necessarily race obsessed

People in ancient times would also brag their lineage, origins, family, surname or gens.
Common troupe in rome went like "my ancestors came from troy!"

>>214251411
While "branqueamento" was an actual policy back then, it clearly fucking failed, because not only it did not created more Whites, it created Pardo people. And in Brasil's case, by the 1940's, Vargas policies made that growth even bigger by telling Immigrants, who were mainly from Europe, to stop following their traditions and stop segregating and forcefully integrated them into a "Brazilian culture".

>but different regions have different customs

Yep, it's natural for a continental sized country have their own "sub-cultures" within their regions. But the "central culture" if we can say that, is Brazilian.

Which is why it doesn't matter if you're white, black, asian, native, whatever, culturally speaking, you're "Brazilian".

>>214251449
Claro que existem. O meu ponto é que a maioria desses "Brancos", não são realmente brancos ao olhar de um Europeu.

É tipo quando um "chicano" dos EUA fala que é Mexicano. Não, um Mexicano é uma pessoa que nasceu e cresceu no Mexico, imerso em sua cultura. O "chicano" é só um Americano sem raizes e complexado.

>>214251643
chicanos aren't american they are latinx like you

>>214251699
Nope, if you're born and raised in the US, you're American.

Thinking that just because you're brown that makes you "Latino", then chicanos really know absolutely nothing about what it actually means to be from Latin America.

boomers do that, anyways i like my primos hope you niggas doing well there

>>214251763
>noooo we dont want to be associated with them
tough shit they're latinx like you

>>214251797
YNBL

>>214248480
Italy actually sent us (Argetina) a bunch of anarchists... Errico Malatesta, Ettore Mattei, etc

>>214251824
i'm white retard, chicanos are brown hispanics/latinx like you
you are not latin, you are a poor thirdie monkey

>>214251870
Sure you are Juan Perez.

>>214251895
>nooo you must be a brown latinx monkey like i am

>>214251763
Esse americano está usando translator pra ver o que estamos falando, não dê bola pro gordinho.
Enfim, voltando ao assunto, aceitação é algo relativo. Em contextos onde as pessoas a sua volta todas são iguais, a primeira pessoa diferente irá se destacar de uma maneira negativa. Mas em sociedades multiculturais a aceitação funciona em camadas, quanto mais parecido (nesse caso, quanto mais clara a pele) mais aceito será. "Pra quem está se afogando crocodilo é tronco".

>>214251763
>if you're born and raised in the US, you're American.
blacks have been in america for longer than most europeans and never really integrated, they formed their own sub identity. Same for hispanics/latinos

>>214251643
>While "branqueamento" was an actual policy back then, it clearly fucking failed, because not only it did not created more Whites, it created Pardo people
Brazilian pardos are much whiter than mestizos reasonably so
They are 65% european in average


If we look at brasil
As it is the case with most of LATAM
There was some relatively clear direction of policy in which by having a patriarchal mentality it was ponderated and primated that the european males had to fuck the nonwhite females to inherit the offspring their consciousness and culture which they were to impose in them

It was always a relation of submission and you need to see the world as people saw it back then to understand the intrincansies.
When you are speaking someone else language, using their first names, their surnames, adopting their customs, adopting their gods, and giving them access to your women.
Younare being put in a relation of docility.
You are "bearing" their image and reproducing that which traces back to them and is more authentic in them
This is how patriarchal societies (whixh iberian were) saw the world.
And brazil is no exception

The "african" and "native" was downplayed and erased
They had to "bear" the portuguese culture, customs, etc
They took forcedly the female role in the relation, one in which they bore the culture of the dominant male.

>>214252210
southern europeans are not white due to arab blood

>>214251987
>Mas em sociedades multiculturais a aceitação funciona em camadas, quanto mais parecido (nesse caso, quanto mais clara a pele) mais aceito será. "Pra quem está se afogando crocodilo é tronco".

Exato, concordo.

Mas ai entra a cultura da pessoa como eu mencionei. O cara que é branco, loiro do olho azul, quando ele nasce e cresce inserido dentro da cultura Brasileira, essa pessoa natualmente irá se considerar, Brasileiro.

Essa é uma das coisas loucas do Brasil, o cara que é a caricatura ideal de Goebbels, até o mais azul dos pretos, ambos de uma forma geral compartilham da mesma cultura.

Agora se esse Branco for pra Europa, muito provavelmente ele não vai conseguir se adaptar 100%, mesmo ele sendo, etnicamente, um Alemão.
O mesmo vale para o negro que vai pra África, e no caso deles é até pior porque o negro Brasileiro (e Americano também) tem uma visão quase que esteriotipada da África. Muito porque esses mesmos negros não tem uma idéia concreta de que qual cultura a etnia deles pertence.

É por isso que tem casos do Negro do novo-mundo que vai pra lá dizendo "Meus irmãos Africanos!!!" e geralmente os Africanos respondem com "Irmão é o caralho, você é da triblo "ngololo nglelele", eu sou da tribo "nkunku tsk tsk tsk*.

>>214252435
this isn't true at all, you are a pardo/black northerner attempting to lay claim to the success of the vastly superior white-adjacent southern brazilians

>>214248423 (OP)
Is this a LARP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q19W2z5LRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sN2QNuDFKI

>>214252547
I don't think that's LARP, it's just an Italian restaurant. I think they're different things, like a Brazilian restaurant playing samba music in Italy.

>>214248480
My grandfather was a member of the PCI. He fled Italy precisely because he was a member of the Communist Party.

>>214252547
The fact that they're playing the "tarantella napoletana" does gives me larpish vibes. Maybe if they were playing something less stereotypical it'd be ok

>>214252912
I think it's just a stereotypical song.

>>214252547
Holy cannoli big fat bottomed gals!

>>214252912
This one is real LARP but i guess the guy is italian desu

https://youtu.be/X7pjgXqnY7Y?t=66

>>214253130
you're not italian joao

>>214253130
Nah, that's some genuine autism right there

>>214253193
yes, i´m not Chikaner.
I´m brazilian kek

>>214253130
you are italian Giacomo

>>214253130
this bar has a Mussolini phrase painted on it, leftards often start seething about it from time to time

>>214253193
>>214253285
KEK
Chikaner gonna suicide.

>>214248423 (OP)
I have italian passport, but I dont larp as an italian. Hell, I dont even speak the lenguage

>>214248423 (OP)
We larp bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2SBPBlL4CU