Thread 214275462

Why is California so rich?

>>214275462 (OP)
I think japan is just shrinking, we overtook them during a year where we had 0% growth

>>214275462 (OP)
Fertile valley, SF bay is one of the world’s largest bays, good climate, economy initially boosted by the gold rush.

>>214275494
Yeah is saw that, that's insane how impactful low birthrate and aging population can be to your country, Japan's gdp is lower now than it was in 1992, that's crazy.

Techbro jeets pumping up the GDP with startups that don't actually produce a product but excite investors.

>>214275569
i*

>muh GDP
Very nice. Now post average income.

>>214275494
>>214275544
why are germans so obsessed with economy

>>214275462 (OP)
Dont worry japan is already launching a counterattack and started to import foreigners

>>214275569
>low birthrate and aging population
Their decline is caused by yen devaluation not these

weird how rich communities never solved the housing problem

>>214275544
This, just absolutely blessed with god tier geography and climate. Being the go-to spot for tech companies which has been the source of most of our economic growth for the last 30 years has also helped.

>>214275688
>all those homeless people
>No guys we're actually rich lol
Fuck off

>>214275688
nigga thought he was cooking with that one fr lmfaooooo

>>214275736
Keep seething, Cleetus. And they get all the homeless people from other states because the climate is good enough to be homeless.

>>214275660
that's the median ( which is still incredibly high for a state with that many inhabitants )
i'll show you the average income later but i'm sure is still high as fuck.

I need to live in California i swear.

>>214275736
Seethe, flyoverlet

>>214275688
>hawaii
wtf

>>214275660
Japan has second world incomes, not a really good example

>>214275741
yeah he cooked.
I'm Belgian and i'd never want to live in your flyover crap hellhole.

>>214275462 (OP)
Thank you president newsom

>>214275804
that guy is really going to be your president in 2029?
I think the Republicans are going to disappear the moment Trump is gone.

>>214275462 (OP)
It's the bullshit tech startups that contribute to California's growth. Techbros unfortunately have made the whole state way too expensive for the average American to live in, which is why the streets of LA are flooded with homeless people in tents. It used to be heaven on earth.

>>214275864
Newsom won't win the primary, he has zero black support. Same with Pete Buttplug
It will be Vance v. Kamala

>>214275713
that map is insane, where did you find it?

>>214275899
>it will be Vance v Kamala
Please no, i need new faces.
Vance has zero charisma and Kamala sucks

>>214275899
God why
I’m convinced I woke up one day in an alternate timeline sometime around 2014

>>214275899
>Vance v. Kamala
fucking kek just imagine the memes

>>214275698
why is the yen devaluing

>>214276026
lmao
germans are so funny

>>214275688
bodied that clown

>>214275899
there's no chance kamala will run again

she was last place in the democratic primaries and when undemocratically appointed to run for president, lost to Trump even by the popular vote

I don't think she herself would even consider it

>>214275899
kamala has zero chance lol
it seems like it has already been decided that it'll be newsom

California is a brown shithole whose population is shrinking despite mass mexican migration because their economy is a bubble of tech companies, inflation, asian fundies and rental speculation on housing

The US in general is a collection of inflated fake economies, nominally rich, irl actually pretty miserable
Their cities are all slums full of junkies, browns and homeless people, their living costs are inmense, their debt is astronomical, they have a abysal trade deficit because they produce 3 chunks of nothingburger and import everything from china, etc.

>>214275494
how the fuck does this work?

>>214275764
New hampshire must be haven on the earth

>>214275660
triple the average japanese persons and like double the average american?

>>214275462 (OP)
Non californians unironically saying "3rd world country with a gucci belt" type of arguments towards californians
>>214275736
Why are you guys so low IQ and driven by seethe

>>214276426
The country is pushing 50 trillion in debt and americans must ignore this, but california being a trillion in debt is a nightmare

>>214275915
unironically reddit

>>214276527
Take all of Germany’s problems and multiply them by 10.

>>214275462 (OP)
During WW2 shitloads of infrastructure was built in California to support the Pacific War. And tons of highly skilled workers, experts, and intellectuals were moved out there to support it as well.
After WW2 a lot of those people and most of that money just stayed around. The US government pumped a bunch of money into the Californian educational system for example. ARPA, later DARPA, operated heavily out of almost military run colleges in California.
Silicon Valley taking off then took this a step further. There was a competition here, between Massachusetts, Upstate New York, and California, about which would hold the future of the US tech industry. And for a variety of reasons, California won.
Today all of that is still in play and is something that they've inherited.

>>214276598
it's pretty nice, mild climate and all white people

>>214275864
I don't think online libs really understand how much the rest of the country absolutely dreads becoming more like California, and Newsom is essentially the face of homelessness, uncontrolled crime, mass illegal immigration, and unaffordable housing to normal people.
That said, they don't really have anyone else and Newsom can at least string together a sentence without sounding retarded, which would make him the best candidate they've run in a decade.
The democratic party hasn't really functioned since Obama and it's one of the big reasons why things continue to get worse here.

>>214275899
At some point the Geriatric Illuminati that runs the DNC needs to finally die off.
This, "muh black voters", thing never works. And trying to find whatever total mook you can get the crustiest old black pastor that vaguely remembers MLK's speeches to endorse is not a winning strategy.
No matter how much white liberal boomers love having token black support.

>>214275462 (OP)
It's just the most extreme example of a fake economy run on dollar printing

>>214276880
Florida has a fake economy, for example, California's is mostly real.

>>214276833
The entire country is being hit by everything you're complaining about. Houses in Texas and Florida are up 50% since covid but people are worrying about California

>>214276998
both of those states have been overrun by Californian refugees

>>214275660
Cletus, did you really think you were richer than a Californian?

it's always fun to watch /int/ SEETHE over commiefornian utopia.
anyways, i made 300k last year and will make more this year, living in my million-dollar condo by the ocean, with summer-time weather year-round and beautiful sunsets every day.
you should come join us. it's nice.

>>214277088
>i made 300k last year and will make more this year
doing what?

>>214277088
Culver’s mogs In-N-Out doe

>>214277069
Has nothing to do with California just another cope for trump/bidens management of the country for the past 8 years.

The californians who are leaving are transplants for the most part

>>214275688
Crazy that the Swiss are poorer than the poorest niggest shithole in the US. The difference between California and Norway is as big as the difference between Norway and Lithuania.

>>214276998
Houses in Florida and Texas are up 50% and now cost $400k while houses in California are reaching $1 million.
The problem exists everywhere, but it's not as extreme. In California it's the result of poor policy compounding over decades. Of course Newsom hasn't been governor of California for decades, but he has presided over some of the most extreme housing prices in history without meaningfully mitigating it in any way.

>>214275462 (OP)
Immigration

>>214275462 (OP)
Which means absolutely nothing because California will never be a sovereign state. It's like saying that the region of China called Chuqolnwa has surpassed Japan economically, or that the Union of Germany, Poland, and Czechoslovakia will do so.

i never want to hear an american complain about expensive healthcare again

YOU CAN AFFORD IT!!!

>>214276998
very based answer.

>>214277088
very cute

>>214275688
Why is Maryland so high?

>>214278917
proximity to washington dc and they had a boom during ww2 due to building alot of ships and fortifications for DC

>>214277088
Mfw seething as a Canadian who is in his 30s but is currently living in an apartment with a roommate despite making 6 figures. And no car.

>>214275462 (OP)
good policies. probably the only state where an immigrant can go from something to nothing.
shame that it's a part of the US. i don't feel good knowing the taxes i pay go to "that other" place.

i think one of the most important metrics in these convos that is rarely mentioned is the gini index that basically measures something like "how distributed across the population wealth actually is" since even with median income, it's just about "half of all people earn more, half of all people earn less" and is an inaccurate figure thrown off by a few extremely wealthy and a lot of very poor

but if you factor in gini index, I think the states where the majority of people are fairly similar in wealth/income is usually the new england states if I remember correctly, with new hampshire being the most "fair" place economically, with not a ton of really rich but not a lot of really poor either

much healthier and stable society than places like california

>>214280304
Uhoh. An informed person. This guy is every economist's/central banker's worse nightmare

>>214280304
>>214280391
actually I just checked, utah and idaho are the states with the "fairest" economies, the mormons win again

>>214275606
Probably.
Boomers can't die off soon enough. Their stupidity and gullability towards the Jeets will be a walking disaster for generations to come.

>>214280595
US tech bubble is insane

>>214277261
Swiss median income is 6500-7000 CHF, there is not a single state in the USA with such a high income

>>214280984
so? kikes do not see it this way

They are the gateway to trade with Asia meaning they get their cut for all trade that passes through to the rest of America

And then obvs Silicon Valley and Big Tech

>>214280984
bubble? I see opportunities! There is a reason why California alone is the most valuable and important market for luxury cars and hypercars. we have all the money

>>214280984
well they dont have any alternatives

>>214280304
Not really median income isnt impacted by few rich you absolute tryglodide

>>214281479
thats a real rich line coming from that flag

>>214281517
hes right tho
isnt new england increasingly becoming boomer territory anyway?

>>214281628
maine is the oldest state on average, the rest of new england is probably slightly older on average than most states, but there's a lot of factos influencing this, there aren't a lot of "big cities" in new england where young people tend to flock to

the youngest state with the most births and highest rate of people under 18 and fastest growing population and ultimately with the most promising future is once again utah, frankly it seems like being mormon is the most relevant x factor in future success in this country, if only because the birth rate of pretty much every other state is dropping like a rock

>>214281869
utah seems comfy. nice scenery and all

what about washington? seems nice too

>>214277135
awful take
>t. someone who's lived in the Midwest and the Southwest

>>214275688
yea bro, Maryland and Alaska are just booming with opportunity kek

>>214282480
>some generic burger with le special sauce
soulless
>a mfing butter burger
AMERICAN SOVL

>>214277125
sucking off his boss and going yess Saar I work all night to prepare the code.

Overpriced real estate and internet companies that create nothing of actual value

>>214275462 (OP)
The GDP ain't in my plate.

>>214282809
Je préfère vivre dans n'importe quelle ville Californienne que dans ta campagne française de merde. T'es un paysan qui ne connaît rien à la vie de citadin.

stealth anti-japan thread btw

>>214283197
Voici une carte des déjection humaines trouvées à Sanfran.

>>214283231
There's no need for that.
They've mismanaged themselves into a collapse all on their own.