Thread 214560111

Why is xhe like this?

He isn't, because he doesn't fucking exist.

I am positively howling right now

>>214560158
I look like this
>>214560151
He exists albeit works in mysterious ways o algo

>>214560151
God has to exist as a condition for knowledge and objective morality.
>>214560111 (OP)
Well the ugly is still a person and before this he had nothing, even being ugly person is an undeserved gift.
What makes you think you deserve everything in life?
It's unfair? According to what? A materialistic world view has no reference point for morality

It's funny when atheists get embarassed in actual debates about philosophy and have to resort to mockery, so much for "enlightened" minds

>>214561457
>It's unfair? According to what?
According to basic reasoning? Ugly people have to spend the best years of their "lives" watching their peers having fun while knowing they will never be able to partake. Life as an uggo is truly not worth living

>>214561457
>Being born is an undeserved gift!!!
You're Godjak threads funniest coper

>>214561457
>God has to exist as a condition for knowledge and objective morality

If the only thing stopping you from being a dirt bag is the fear of divine retribution then you're a horrible person

>>214561554
>according to basic reasoning
not an argument
>"best years" "watching peers having fun" "worth"
This is your "reasoning"? This is just an emotional dump
You even haven't given an account as to why we SHOULD be fair in the first place, feel free to do so.

>>214561564
Kant went out of his way writing 332 pages to find objective morality and his shit still doesn't work.

(god doesn't exist btw)

>>214561564
What makes me horrible? based on what? As far as I know according to your world view we are just machines propagating DNA

>>214561457
>Well the ugly is still a person and before this he had nothing, even being ugly person is an undeserved gift.
Where you had nothing, and then receive uglyness is a curse.
It's objectively a bad thing. Nobody wants it.

>>214560111 (OP)
>I will make you a repressed angry retard with ADHD and a incurable chronic illness, yes I will make everyone around you live their lives while you sit alone in your room crying

>>214561799
why is your god the only one real then

>>214561780
Just don't be an asshole to people because it's nice to be nice

>>214561846
Why didn't all ugly people immediately kill themselves if life itself isn't worth it?

>>214561957
Because these bodies were in are programmed to be averse to pain and terrified of death

>>214561934
>huh being bad is bad because... it's bad! just don't be bad lol
Free thinkers huh

>>214561957
Suicide is a thing that happens anon,sure not every ugly person is suicidal but most are

>>214562000
Don't people often kill themselves when they feel like their life has no purpose?
What happened to the programming there?

>>214561564
>>214562000
may I suggest you constrain your interests to simpler topics

>>214561934
I sympathize with people trying to find morality WITHOUT god, but.. It's quite impossible to ground it into anything without le supreme being.
>>214561957
Life is worth continuing, but it is never worth starting.
When we compare existence to non-existence, the choice is obvious: it shouldn't be started.

Once it has been started, however, the damage has already been done. Only thing we can do is roll with it and try not to force the same mistake onto others.

There's always a bunch of half-sentient fuckheads, who are also often staggeringly ugly, who continuously spread misery by multiplying.

>>214562156
Their suffering superceded it, but that's not always the case. Everybody has their threshold

>>214562167
>Don't like what I'm saying and has no rebuttal so he just tossed a snide remark

Many such cases

>>214562211
>Life is worth continuing, but it is never worth starting.
Let's be more clear that we are not actually talking about "life" but "conscience".
Either way the choice is the same. From any point the life can -> exist/not exist. Once it has started it can stop at any point, the result is the same.
Either way the materialist world view cannot even give an account for an objetive morality so this discussion shouldn't even make sense.

>>214562295
You have a pessimistic world view but in materialism only nihilism should be the conclusion

>>214562418
no, we have an aversion to death. We consider it 'bad'.
Death (bad) only enforced upon us when we are born. The only way to prevent death is to never have been.

As for your agumentum ad Goddum, if you're Christian, give me one reason I should prefer to roll a dice on my kids going to hell, compared to them never existing, thus never having slightest chance of burning eternally in hell.

>your bad your god is bad!!(HE DOESN'T EXIST THO)
>ok based on what?
>well ... YOU JUST ARE STOP ASKING QUESTIONS CHUD

>>214561502
>creates headcanon
philosophy today has done away with absolutism and the concept of a deity as something real
only the neetbux theologians still cling to this shit and they're ridiculed in intellectual spaces

>>214562541
You're saying as this is universal but many people don't consider it bad.
Either how can death be bad if it ceases existence(which is also bad according to you)?
>aversion
If you're considering our nature then while dying should be bad for me, it shouldn't be necessarily bad to kill others, or to rape others. And according nature creating life is also good no matter what.
That's why pessimism doesn't make any sense and it's not even coherent to your world view which should be nihilistic.

>>214562742
>philosophy is my uni professors
>all the experts say so
it's funny how you free thinkers are more obsessed with the aesthetics of being an intelectual than actually being one

>>214562575
>He definitely exist!!!
> He just let child get molested on an industrial level by cannibal jew pedos because... Free will

>Be God
>merciful n sheet
>Creates suffering and a fucking food cycle
bruhhhh

>>214562575
The burden of proof is on the guy saying the magic sky daddy exists. I don't have to prove he doesn't, that's just common sense unless you're schizophrenic

>>214562926
>inane brainlet babble
sorry, I forgot I had to watch a random youtube video with a schizo telling me how christianity is true and everyone is going to hell

>>214560111 (OP)
The ugly person is more likely to be devout and humble. The beautiful successful person is more likely to become prideful and sensually hedonistic

>>214562972
"burden of proof", "have to prove".
For more things with no justification in a materialistic world view tune up channel 4

What the bible teaches is that you shouldnt care about anything in life because it all goes away after you die. You should spend your life worshipping God because he will reward you with an infinite life in heaven

>>214560111 (OP)
It really is like that. As an ugly person I feel like I'm missing out on a lot in this life. Even some people are impolite to me due to my looks (especially women) while they treat my good-looking friends with respect. I hate this piece of shit so much I don't even care about going to hell anymore, he can throw me there but before he does that I'll make sure I spit in his fucking mouth.

>>214560158
Why did you post Anya Taylor Joy?

>>214563481
This is all fine but don't blame god but how other people treat you.

>>214561457
>God has to exist as a condition for knowledge
Surely God has to exist as an creator of sentience and all its facets

>>214563655
I blame god because it's his fault for making me be born to poor parents with low quality genetics. I am destined to die alone and miss out on my life, no matter how much I try because all that matters is your looks especially in 2025. Fuck god. I want him to make me die so I can tell him that straight to his trash face (that is if he even exists)

>>214563655
And no, it is not fine. Being excluded for something you don't have control over is horrible. It's the worst experience and curse ever.

>>214562156
>suicide exists, this is proof of a loving god

>>214562992
This but unironically

>>214563700
more specifically he has to exist so that our finite minds can attain absolutes
>>214563727
He gave you a certain look but humans are the ones who think your look matters more than your virtues and think you should be ostracized.

>god can test you with hard but ultimately rewarding and heroic tasks
>He chose to test you by creating a world full of cannibal jew pedofiles that roam free and have all the power in the world

>>214564106
>He gave you a certain look but humans are the ones who think your look matters more than your virtues and think you should be ostracized.
This retard created humans in his image, therefore he's the root problem. I used to be christian and prayed but then I realized how much of a piece of trash god is and then dropped religion. Fuck him I hope he gives me some deadly disease soon so I can die and listen to his explanations before he drops me to hell

>>214560111 (OP)
>handsome and surrounded by poon to test him if he'll be chaste or a womanizer
>rich to test if he'll donate to the poor or be a cheapskate bastard
saying thanks isn't enough.
meanwhile, the ugly fat bastard has to endure the hardship and work his hardest to survive.

>>214564162
In his image means we have a mind analogous to his divine mind, not that everything humans think is his fault. He gave people the free will so they can stray away from him and become bad.
>If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
John 15:19

>>214564334
>>handsome and surrounded by poon to test him if he'll be chaste or a womanizer
>>rich to test if he'll donate to the poor or be a cheapskate bastard
This but unironically. It's not an easy choice for the rich handsome chad.

>>214564349
I still refuse to believe these fairy tales. He's a trash cunt who gave horrible people everything while cursing others for no reason. There's none I hate more in this world than him and my trash subhuman parents who decided to procreate while being utter worthless subanimals

>>214564428
>I blame him
>I don't believe he exists
He must exist as a condition of knowledge, otherwise we couldn't ever be sure of anything or ever know something is absolutely true.
All the things you say are unfair in life(such as being judge for your looks and not your virtues) are unfair according to the christian view, not the materialistic world view.
You're contradicting yourself.

>>214561895
Amen

>>214561457
here comes the trad cath brownoid
stop making us look bad

>>214564428
The part where Jesus talks about splitting apart families and turning Brother against Brother is where I throw him off as a charismatic grifting cultist. He would've been no different to all the Pentecostal faith healers you see today who rely on parlor tricks, and his "give your money to the poor" being emphasized was clearly a grift, it was basically "give your money to me and my group." A first century Kenneth Copeland.

>>214561457
kys

>>214560111 (OP)
https://youtu.be/EgGfQdv_rPc?t=2371

If there is a god then he created everything to be like a sandbox to observe for his own entertainment. Why else would a timeless being created the universe? It would explain why bad shit happens, because if no conflict happened then observing a perfect unchanging paradise would be boring as fuck.

>>214562992
Must be because God is bad .

>>214564928
If God is real it's highly unlikely we're his crowning achievement.

>>214564905
>guys!
>moneky island analogy is real because Spartans did have grueling training by being beaten up then sexed
>it really happened
>then the sacred band of Athens copied it!
>then philip the second copied it, made the greatest army ever and Alexander conquered the world!
his ideas that higher transgressions lead to deeper bonds and that jews are making the world hate them to unite might be true though.

>>214564959
Assuming this being is infinite and has always existed then your statement has to be true. Also if this being is all powerful then creating us wasn't an achievement because it would have been completely effortless to create the universe.

>>214565013
Why do you assume any God has the properties of a Christian God?

>>214561457
>God has to exist as a condition for knowledge and objective morality.
there is no knowledge or objective morality so that squares

>>214565101
you must mean Abrahamic, not only Christian. Regardless, I don't believe in a god. I'm just hypothesizing why a god would create the universe.

>>214561457
do you honestly believe all that magic shit happened in this reality? you think jesus was flying around reviving people and jonah was in a fish for 3 days, the ark, pillars of salt, etc actually happened then suddenly stopped after the bible for reasons o algo

God's morality is only objective in the sense that might makes right btw.
It is by being that which is most mighty and capable of delivering judgment on all that defines God as God after all.

>>214564563
I don't believe he exists anymore, but under the assumption he does, I'd still insult and despise him for what he makes me go through along with other unfortunate people.

>>214565101
>everything has a cause
>someone created the universe
>that someone we call God
simple as