Thread 214642946

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>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
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>/lang/ inpoot torrents
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>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

Go before : >>214569663

Gonna make acronyms to identify phonetic vowels in diacritics

NcNbrv is /ʊ/ as in the adjective :
>सुंदर।
CBrv is /u/ as in the proper noun :
>जूलिया।

>>214643183
what

>>214643319
I am gonna set a configuration of mnemonic bridges to acronyms standing for phonetic vowels represented by devanagari diacritics

https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/search?q=Devanagari#characters

Translation challenge
>Easy
Where did I park my car?
I got lost in the supermarket. It's too big and complicated.
My flight is in an hour and a half.
Why do you think she acted like that?

>Medium
I've heard some worrying things about Ireland. Is it as bad as they say?
My elderly father got scammed by a Nigerian prince.
I paid my fee for the course, but I haven't gotten a confirmation email yet.

>Hard
The police were suspicious because I didn't have my passport. They interrogated me for 15 very long minutes. Thankfully, I was able to convince them it was all a misunderstanding and they released me without charge.

>>214643657
gtg soon so I'll just do a few
>Où est-ce que j'ai garé ma voiture?
>Je me suis perdu dans le hypermarché. C'est trop grand et compliqué.
>Mon vol est dans une heure et demi.
>Pourquoi est-ce que tu pense qu'elle a agi comme ça?

>>214643657
मैंने आपनी कार कहाँ पार्क की।

The perfect participle inflection of करना should be कीर/कीहऽ not की.

>>214643460
NearcloseNearbackroundedvowel?

3 hours of Norwegian study done.
Life is good.
Gonna have some choccy milk and then start my Japanese study.
We are gonna make it bros

>the bengali first person singular pronoun is actually the old first person plural
wtf

>>214643657
>ئاددىي
ماشىنام قەيەردە توختىتىپ قويدىم؟
ماگازىندا ئېزىپ قالدىم. بەك چوڭ بەك چىگىش
ئايروپىلانىم بىر يېرىم سائەت ۋاقتى بار
idk

>中级
我关于爱尔兰听说过很多让人不安心的故事。真像人说的那么破烂吗?
我年大的爸爸被尼日利亚王子骗了
我已交了学费,但还没收到缴费确认通知书

>难
因为没带护照,警察很怀疑我。给我十五分钟的讯问,感觉时间过得很慢。可巧,我凑合了让他们觉得是误会了,免罪释放了我

I fucking love Portuguese. Lusophone culture and literature are so interesting. The best part is that I don't feel like a retard around native speakers like I do with German or Russian

>>214645805
You replaced thou and now we have y'all and yous

The past month I've swapped studying 5 Thai vocab words per day for 5 new sentences per day. My vocab base was around 1000 before starting this.

Is this a good trade? I'm not sure my Thai feels any better than studying vocab but then again I'm at the stage where progress feels slow right?

>>214648716
What are your goals with Thai, if you don't mind me asking?

>>214648752
Marry into the royal family and use my background and influence to drive out Western and Chinese influence while also shifting towards a more sustainable mode of tourism like that of Bhutan.

What happened to the American anon who wanted to be a Russian gangster? Need a progress update.

The Greek language is so cool I wish they didn't forget how to make remotely worthwhile media after the Cold war

>>214648886
Interesting

I was looking up the etymology of the word "Texas" and found out that the last native speaker of the language from which it originated died less than two months ago

>>214643992
Yeah.

Languages I'm interested in: German, Norwegian-Swedish, Japanese, Portuguese, Italian, French, Spanish, Russian. I'll have to give up about half of them if I want to master the remaining half of the languages at a decent level

Languages i'm interested in: German, French, Norwegeo-Swedo-Dane, Japanese, Icelandic, Spanglish
Languages I'm interested in learning: German, French

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I wanna torrent and read Céline, une vie parisienne but somehow it's on none of the usual places? Any other aspiring French learners had better luck finding it?

Languages I'm interested in: French, German, Italian, Greek, Latin, Russian, Polish, Dutch, Swedish, Spanish, Portuguese, Finnish, Georgian, Arabic, Persian, Sanskrit, Chinese, Japanese
I cannot actually learn all these but I must dabble to some extent

>>214652294
How dare you shill an open source program when refoldgrifting is right there?

ئۈستگە

found a nice little channel for European Portuguese comprehensible input
https://www.youtube.com/@portuguesetune/videos

>>214643657
>easy

¿Donde está mi choche?

¿Donde estoy en la supermercado? ¡Es muy grande! .No me gusta.

.Mi avion sale hoy.

.Estoy muy enojado. .Ella es... muy molesta. .Si, si. .Ella no me gusta.

What do you guys think about my pronounciation?
https://voca.ro/1h9XGVwJ6mhD

>>214654429
German > Swedish, Dutch
Russian > Polish
More content, more people. The exception is if you live next to a community speaking another Slavic or Germanic language, or if you are fascinated by that particular language
French > Portuguese, Italian. You live in Canada
Japanese > Finnish, Greek, Georgian, Arabic, Persian
Latin > Sanskrit

>>214658205
that's pretty much what I'm thinking, I will focus on French, German, and probably Russian eventually. then Italian and Greek just because I like them. possibly Japanese, I already started to learn it years ago. and the others would probably just be minor dabbling

>>214643859
bon boulot

>>214657741
Your microphone is terrible. Your pronunciation in terms of the basic sounds is very good. The only words that jumped out to me were image (where you pronounced the final syllable like "mage" (a wizard) instead of muhj), and to a lesser extent, bulletin (where the -tin should sound similar to the word "tin" by itself--in other words, with very slight aspiration--whereas yours sounded like "bulledin"). The biggest thing that would make your reading sound more natural would be to use a more natural rhythm with less disjointedness. You're also speaking in a nasally voice, and an unconfident way, which makes you come across as stereotypically "nerdy" or "geeky." Improving your rhythm and (to a lesser extent) intonation would help with that impression.

>>214654916
>refoldgrifting
You know the refold shit in the op is pirated decks right? I dont think anyone reads the op anyway lol.
To add I think all of you are retarded and I dont listen to your advice :P

>>214643657
Donde está el baño? Aparqué cerca de ello.
Donde está el baǹo? Me desvié en el supermercado y no lo encuentro. Es demasiado grande y complicado.
Mi vuelo sale en una hora y medía, donde está el baño?
Por qué crees que ella actuó así? Tal vez no podía encontrar donde está el baño?

He oido unas cosas turbia sobre Irlanda. Es cierto que no tienen baños publicos?
Un principe nigeriano estafó a mi viejo, le vendió un mapa de los baños falsa
Pague por el curso pero todavia no me han explicado donde está el baño

La polícia sospechaba de mí, porque no sabía donde estaba el baño. Me interrogaron durante 15 largos minutos. Hojalá les pudo convencer que era todo malentendimiento y me soltaron sin acusas.

>>214657741
>https://voca.ro/1h9XGVwJ6mhD
mostly "images" and "register" stuck out to me

>>214659250
So rude

>>214659489
kek'd irl

been studying spanish lately although i always considered romance languages kind of uninteresting and somewhat mid besides the fact that they all sound great, and the more i learn about spanish grammar, the more i like it.
i hereby apologize to all spanish speakers in the entire world

do Japanese people normally say "hai" as often as she does?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuVGQDJOwHU

>>214660425
isn't that just "yes"?

>>214660524
yes, but she says it after practically every sentence. maybe just because of this context of slowly teaching and repeating things

>>214658980
Thanks for your helpful, detailed input. I'm aware there's something off with it but i wasn't quite sure where to put my finger at.

>>214659508
Thank you for your contribution, anon.

>>214660425
>>214660563
isn't it considered rude not to do that in japanese

I never noticed how vowels and the variance in pronounciation of "t" were so hard to get right in spoken english.
Probably something to do with portuguese?

>>214662162
I just realized the other day that "bottle" is pronounced almost like "boddle". I never noticed the nuances before

>>214660425
When I would go to my Japanese friends house, he would talk to his mum in Japanese.
Practically 90% of what he would say to her was "hai".

>>214662162
Just copy whatever people from Manchester do. Its the accent of the future (alcoholics).

>>214648716
Damn is my question just really stupid or does no one have a good answer

>>214659250
>waaah your joke wasn’t perfectly logical

>>214662480
I prefer studying vocab via sentences. So this seems reasonable. Studying isolated words is borderline useless.

>>214662800
American humour be like [statement]

I have been lurking this board for a while, it is actually hilarious how you guys are both more autistic and less productive than those heathens on r/languagelearning. I am convinced all language learning spaces are full of idiots.

>>214662941
Stfu retard

>>214663160
He actually made fun of me last thread for being too busy going to Latin mass and reading Latin to remember to shitpost in English on /lang/.

>>214663231
In fairness that is even gayer than posting here.

>>214663160
>I am convinced all language learning spaces are full of idiots.
How many languages do you speak, wise one?

>>214663427
3: English obviously, Czech because I am part Czech and Swedish because I thought there would be baddies there (there is not, most Swedish women look like Greta does now)

>>214663623
>Czech because I am part Czech
How do you feel about Canadians fetishizing your language/country?

>>214663729
>small sample
>online surveys
>say they are hyperpolyglots plus a bunch of other rare characteristics
>"I'm a gay left-handed retard with ligma and I speak 20 languages"
the lizardman constant

>>214663729
I have a cat allergy. That is about it really. I guess I might be autistic, but I can look people in the eyes and I am a pretty good wagie. I have a pretty cool job which involves going to Sweden a lot.

>>214663768
>How do you feel about Canadians fetishizing your language/country?
Good for them. Its an alright country. Random little towns where grandparents and shit live are way cooler than Prague or the more touristy areas. Tourist areas are full of Romani, Turk and other Arab scammers.

>>214662162
Anglophone (or at least I'm speaking for Americans), thinking about t sounds is not very precise. We don't think in terms of aspirated and non-aspirated t sounds, or t turning into a d sound. We think in terms of proper degree of annunciation. For example (>>214662380), if you aspirated the t sound (think "bah"+"toll"), it would sound over-annunciated and ridiculous except in those contexts (primarily certain styles of singing) where over-annunciation is expected. On the other hand, pronouncing "bulletin" as "bulledin" sounds muddled and lacking the expected annunciation. You can probably figure out some rules

>>214662380
I don't think "bottle" is a true d sound. Compare words that have a "tt" in the middle versus those with a "dd" in the middle. For example, "meddle" versus "mettle." We naturally pronounce these words differently, and we can hear a difference between these sounds, but at the higher level of thinking, we paper over these differences using our overly simplistic alphabet.

>>214663924
When I visit your country I'll make sure to visit your grandma

>>214664162
She doesn't like brown people, so as long as you are white you should be fine.

>>214664303
I am, that's one of the things I like about your country

>>214663924
I was in Prague like 3 years ago and didn’t see middle easterners. Karlstejn is a great little village btw in terms of tourism, there should still be this antique shop on the road to the castle owned by an old Jewish couple that sells a bunch of Nazi artifacts, among other things, at very good prices. I’ve been all around much of the countryside though.

>>214664535
>an old Jewish couple that sells a bunch of Nazi artifacts
Curious

>>214657741
Turn off the audio settings.

Is learning Japanese worth it? I want to read Suugaku Golden (kino btw) but the translation team that were doing that abandoned it, so raws are my only choice.
I also want to play some untranslated weeb vidya,

>>214663623
Swedish women are He-mans?

>>214643657
I know I have spelling errors, I can't be fucked to switch to a french keyboard.


>Ou est-ce que j'ai garé ma voiture?

>J'ai devenu perdu dans la supermarché. Elle est trop grande et compliqué.

>Mon vol est dans une heure et demi.

>Pourquoi crois-tu qu'elle avait un compartement comme ça?

>J'ai entendu des choses inquetant de L'Irelande... Est-ce que c'est si mauvais comment les gens disent?

>Mon pere âgé etait arnaqée par un prince nigerian.

>J'avais payé le frais pour le cours, mais je n'ai pas recu un conformation encore.

>La police etait suspiceux parce-que je n'avais pas mon passeport. Ils m'ont interrogé pour 15 minutes longue. Heureusment, j'ai reussi de les convaincre que c'etait tous un malentendu et ils m'ont laissé sans m'inculpé.

>>214664995
My french isn't good enough to correct most of this, but I know
>pour 15 minutes longue
Should be
>pendant 15 longues minutes

>>214662380
>>214663998
the sound you're hearing in bottle (at least in general american dialects) is a "tapped r", or more specifically a voiced alveolar tap.
/d/ is pretty close when it comes to tongue/mouth articulation, which is why it might sound similar.

>>214649866
He moved to Thailand where he trains muay thai. He has a yt channel.

>>214664995
>J'ai devenu perdu dans la supermarché. Elle est trop grande et compliqué.
Je me suis perdu. Il. grand. compliqué
>Pourquoi crois-tu qu'elle avait un compartement comme ça?
*t'as crus qu'elle a eu
>J'ai entendu des choses inquetant de L'Irelande... Est-ce que c'est si mauvais comment les gens disent?
inquiétant. comme les gens le-disent.
>Mon pere âgé etait arnaqée par un prince nigerian.
Mon vieux père a été arnaqué. Nigérian.
>J'avais payé le frais pour le cours, mais je n'ai pas recu un conformation encore.
les frais. mais je n'ai pas encore reçu la confirmation.
>La police etait suspiceux parce-que je n'avais pas mon passeport. Ils m'ont interrogé pour 15 minutes longue. Heureusment, j'ai reussi de les convaincre que c'etait tous un malentendu et ils m'ont laissé sans m'inculpé.
était suspicieuse. intérrogé pendant 15 minutes. j'ai réussi à les convaincre que c'étais un malentendu.

nice try

>>214665625
Link?

>>214666299
Are you a chud? Otherwise, you won't enjoy it.

>>214666451
I will

>>214666538
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wKiTelkTBRc&pp=2AYG

>>214666630
Thanks

>>214664703
Every japanese media feels much better without translation, so if youre a weeb this is your natural choice

>>214646089
You're supposed to actually translate via learning, bong.

When you can read jajuz posts, you will be fluent in Polish.

>>214643183
>phonetic
>uses phonemic notation

I need to speak English at work, would anyone learning Spanish be interested in speaking with me? The goal is to be a bit more fluent and less awkward when talking.

I'm a guy in his 30s, fairly educated and am serious about learning, don't care if you are a guy or a gall. Already tried "language apps" and they are awful.

>>214665572
and also why ESLs approximate using /d/

>>214658980
>The biggest thing that would make your reading sound more natural would be to use a more natural rhythm with less disjointedness.
>the thing that would fix your pronunciation is fixing your pronunciation
big if true

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