it would be wise for Europeans to try to get Ukraine as close as possible, they have experience defending against Russia and if we plan to defend ourselves in the future we need them on board
>>214710164
Turkey is our enemy and sooner or later we will go to war with them, I cringe every time our politicians pretend they are not just get some money out of it
>>214710079
if ukraine is allowed to joiin NATO it means that europeans will have to defend ukraine if theres another invasion, what do european populations think of sending their men to die in a meatgrinder far away in Eastern Europe? It wont be popular with the people i assume and parties promising not to let ukraine into nato would win in their elections
signing any peace deal with russia is pointless
because ukraine will lose all their rights to their territorries AND russia will invade them again at some point anyways, treaties be damned
sustained conflict is the only way to go
but such a country can't be a part of nato and the eu.
however, if there was a western ukraine that was either its own state or a EU protectorate......
>>214710558 >How? They're already pro-EU as fuck.
who the fucked asked anyone about their feels? it's about meeting the economic and legal requirements to join. right now the fact is that it's a corrupt shithole >Can't they just copy-paste some other country's laws and regulations to fulfill the requirements?
if it was this easy anyone would do it. Do you really think MPs like arbitrary reforms that put their own interests at risk
