Thread 216164858

UNRELATED to politics or the genocide,
What do you think of secular Israeli culture?
Because it seems that no one else notices that its basically similar to vapid Spaniard/Italian Instagram and TikTok culture, but at least everyone knows there's more to other countries than what its late-20's influencers do, yet it seems that most of Israeli society embodies this.
What's your opinion on Israelis in a non-political, non-war. non-religious sort of way?

>>216164858 (OP)
it's like if you took the worst parts of meds and added a dash of the worst parts of slavs

>>216164858 (OP)
I'd like to visit but as my family is Muslim I'd be disowned unfortunately.
That said, Israelis are crazy. They embody the worst aspects of 'secular' Middle Easterners.

>>216164889
They embody the worst aspects of human culture.

>>216164908
>>216164889
>>216164880
This but unironically. They are absolutely terrible people. They made me ashamed some of us protected Jews during lolocaust

Pretty bro people desu. Israelis are cacti, spikey on the outside but soft on the inside.

>>216164889
in the historic Munich beer hall, my friends and I met some Israelis during Oktoberfest ( not at the tent event, just during that time).
They seemed alright, and one dude who looked like Pontius Pilate from "Passion of the Christ" was apparently a jew from Siberia, he was the likeable and talkative one. But the other three were the same age, like mid 30's/40's, and they had nothing to talk about besides raves, drugs, army, and bisexual encounters
I thought it was a weird batch but then I met more and that just seems to be a thing everywhere in that country

>>216164858 (OP)
It’s seems like a façade like they are trying to appeal to hedonistic western culture but maybe they are just evil

>>216164858 (OP)
Never met one that was pleasant to get along with

>>216164858 (OP)
we dont have a genocide bro there's an army protecting the country
maybe in usa the norms are different idgi

>>216164858 (OP)
A mate married one and he's an ultra zionist. Israelis outside of 4chan are so soft, he goes mental at any mention of israel doing no nos

>>216164858 (OP)
They practice the snipping of the penis, their opinion is discarded

>>216164858 (OP)
>secular
Even secular jews are jewish supremacist. Imagine a religion telling you that you are better than other people.
Is all you need to know about Israel

>>216165003
>we dont have a genocide bro
Every major human rights organization says differently

>>216164858 (OP)
>secular jew
no such thing

>my religion is a fake larp but I will still use it to justify conquering these desert nomads and olive farmers who are also descendants of the original fake larpers, who in fact have a closer tie to the land because most of my ancestors are germo-slavic rapebabies instead of semitic rapebabies
secular israeli nationalists must be the most insane people on the planet.

>>216165077
Their religion teaches that non-Jews aren’t human

>>216165077
Quality over quantity. The ones that matter don't.

>>216165077
Who the fuck cares about what a bunch of faggots say about a bunch of killed brownoid sand niggers fuck off retarded cunt

>>216165077
we're not a human rights organization takahiro

>>216165068
>Imagine a religion telling you that you are better than other people.
That is essentially every religion on earth

>>216165197
That's a retarded migrant and probably a femoid one, Japan is also gettng its portion of browns which is getting annoying

>>216165197
Made for blacl bvlls, needs a black baby

>>216165197
imagine her having group sex with black men straight out of boat

>>216165226
not a migrant either, reading comprehension my bro

>>216165198
Judaism is a racial thing, they are the "Gods chosen people" but you can't join their religion withotuh some long purposefuly gate keeping process. And they won't consider you a jew btw.

>>216165302
Counterpoint
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Flanagan_(Irish-Israeli_soldier)

>>216165003
If you're not the guy who's always "what is a 'palestine'?" then here's a serious reply:
I'm trying not to get into a debate so I will just present objective facts:
Israel against all arab countries? sure thats defense. Go ahead, thats war.
what are you defending? your expanding territories. Literally every country, even the "innocent tribes" have done the same.
what are you expanding? territory you moved into in british mandatory palestine. Even USA did it too with native Americans.
look, in a political sense, I could care or not care about shit in the 1940's. And the native Arabs made plenty of dumbass decisions, like Oct 7. Did they expect Israel to not bomb Gaza?
But you have a habit of presenting to the rest of the world that 10 million of you always inhabited the area, while inside your borders you're aware everyone's grandparents are from somewhere else,
while some rando muslims or christians have more Caananite DNA than the average israeli, the thing is you feel you're entitled to land and insist upon it by naming everything in old testament terms. but the biggest problem is bombing civilians, especially children.
I guess our difference, and I'm not saying it wasn't horrible too, but early Americans told everyone they were going into unfamiliar territory to spread civilization, you guys tell each other the same thing in Hebrew, but to the rest of the world you act like its something you're reclaiming when 87% of your population is descended from converts,
and have no idea what was happening in those lands because most of you are irreligious and think your scriptures are a ridiculous myth...
but somehow accept that everything in said scriptures was 100% true when it comes to "being handed down to you by God", a god you constantly try to trick as if you were a lawyer or something.
It seems very hard for you to comprehend that many people don't care about wars, but don't like innocent families being bombed

>>216164858 (OP)
no, they are among the most brainwashed polities on the planet
as bad as the russians even
NOT a secular country

>>216165302
the bible is filled with religious figures who are worshipped by jews who converted
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_(biblical_figure)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obadiah

>>216165346
tldr

>>216164858 (OP)
I like their guns

>>216165332
In America, it's really easy to convert if you're mentally competent and can pay for education. The rabbis just banned it in south america because they know you people are beasts that will (lie, cheat, steal) to get out of the ghetto.

>>216165346
bros yapping

>>216165466
Well, we have anglokike churches everywhere (Mormons) and people are chill about it.

>>216165168
Elaborate.

>>216165346
Good post.

>>216165578
which one specifically

>>216165625
All of them.
Who are these niggas? And who are those mentioned niggas?

>>216165659
all gay

>>216165659
Who are the whitest people in your country?

>>216165659
>ashkie tankie
pretty self explanatory, a tankie ashkenazi, odeh refers to ayman odeh, the politician who is a member of Hadash, what once was the communist party, just rebranded
>Al-Jubha youth leader
Basically the leader of the youth movement for hadash
>Haredi yeshiva student
also self explanatory, UTJ refers to United Torah Judaism, the a haredi political party
>Neo-Bundist
Bundism is a pretty old ideology promoted by communist jews that was anti zionist and pro european-jewish culture that said that jews should live in small self governing social communes in europe and speak yiddish, all their thought leaders were killed by commies while zionists managed to create a prosperous state for jews so you can see why its irrelevant these days
>Pali student at tel aviv university
basically imagine upper class arab-israelis who cosplay as palestinian for brownie points
>Ra'am pragmatist
refers to the political party ra'am, an islamist party that is basically the muslim brotherhood's branch in israel but they're very chill, very popular with bedouins since they represent them.
>Balad grandpa
Refers to the balad party, a secular palestinian pan arabist party, they didn't make it to parliament in the last election since everyone all arabs either vote for hadash, ra'am, or meretz/avodah
>Meretz mom
meretz is the green party basically, very popular with urbanite young ashkenazis
>Israeli-arab avodah voter
Avodah is the labor party, think rabin and oslo, thats essentially their ideology.

>>216165697
Lazy cunt.
>>216165701
Obviously, it's me.
Me on the right.
I'm black as coal.
>>216165769
Mucho gracias.

>>216165769
>Israeli black panther
basically rad-leftist mizrahim from the days where this country was ashkenazi supremacist, almost nonexistant these days since thats no longer a thing
>confederation advocate
an advocate for a US or Bosnia style confederacy as a solution to the conflict
>Yesh Atid NPC
a supporter of yesh atid, a center left party that is very boring and inconsistent in their views
>B'tselem-ite
refers to B'tselem, an israeli human rights group that covers human rights abuses in the west bank, usually they just harass soldiers and then pull out their phones to film them flipping out
>black israelite
uh... you can find them in dimona
>stoner holocaust survivor
wants weed and the sweet release of death
>Anarchist olah
anarchist tranny
>Gen-Z refusnik
refusnik refers to young people who refuse to serve to not serve in the 'occupation army' as they say, usually all mentally ill and upper class
>OG kibbutznik
refers to people who still advocate for the original kibbutz movement

>>216165346
jews don't have self introspection, that's why they don't give you straight answer and mislead you

>>216165197
i want her to face ride me while calling me a good goy

>>216165837
>>216165659
>umm al fahm islamist
refers to the northern branch of the islamist movement in Israel, they're borderline israeli al-qaeda but don't have guns, only words
>settler rabbi
self explanatory
>al-aqsa bomber
settler rabbi's student
>religious mizrahi
self explanatory
>russian israeli babushka
refers to older people who came here during the 90s from the soviet union, very secular and pretty anti-left, also hates religious people
>ben gvir-ite
supports ben gvir and kahanism
>druzi in the army
druze are chill and are the only minority besides circassians who asked for their community to be included in the draft, so most of us like them
>likudnik ars
arsim (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars_(slang)) who support bibi
>chardal millenial
chardal basically means 'religious nationalist', they used to be pretty centrist and chill but have turned far right in recent years

>>216165883
thats all I can bother to explain

>>216165837
>>216165883
Thanks.
It was funny.

>>216165168
had no idea there are samaritans living today in israel

>>216165769
>Neo-Bundist
Whats even the point of being a Bundist 80 years after the Holocaust? The core Bundist saying "where we live, that is our country" was entirely proven wrong the moment they were all being stacked in mass graves in their own "country", do these Neo-Bundists LARP just because?

>>216165500
You don't get american citizenship for being a mormon but you get israeli citizenship for being a jew.

There's a diff.

>thread
goyim seething ritual

>>216165769
Would the avodah arab voter dislike it if his daughter dated an arab israeli or just the jews?

>>216165964
>do these Neo-Bundists LARP just because?
basically and also they lowkey just wanna live in europe but this way they can be politically savy about it

>>216166108
It sounds like low key mental illness. Being totally dedicated to a movement that has functionally failed in every respect (aside from the dwindling economic output).

>>216164858 (OP)
They have culture?

You know when I see pictures of Israel I'm confused. I thought jews would be building a beautiful paradise of sorts, but it looks like a thirdie hellhole. They have infinite money, so why not have nice cities and buildings?

>>216164858 (OP)
I admire the fact that they built a first world country in such a shitshow of a region. Otherwise though, they're very obnoxious backpackers: loudness of Latinos, arrogance of Right Wing Americans, and the jingoistic nationalism of thirdies

>>216165068
>Imagine a religion telling you that you are better than other people.
uh yeah Christianity says you'll be damned to the firey inferno if you're not one of them?

>>216165302
It's a "racial" religion only in the most superficial level. It doesn't take a genius to tell Ashkenazim apart from Yemenite Jews.

>>216166046
just the jews obviously

>>216164858 (OP)
>secular Israeli culture
>>>/x/

>>216165961
theres a pretty popular celebrity here who is a samaritan, pic related, sofi tzdaka, who converted to judaism from samaritanism, they mostly live in holon or the nablus area

>>216165133
god doesn't exist. plasterlinians should return to their judean roots if they truly are their descendants and rejoin us in zion

>>216167576
Then why does the Kabalah works so well for you guys?

>>216164858 (OP)
I find that Israelis and diaspora Jews (at least influential figures thereof) have become basically polar opposite people
There is now this situation where Israel outright defies the interests of the average non-Israeli Jew but still has a claim on their loyalty, a claim that cannot be effectively contested because there is no alternative or big enough Jewish counterweight to Israel
Over time this situation will hopefully become clear enough that Israel can no longer claim the status of representative of global jewry that it traditionally profits off of, but this can only happen if antisemitism does not grow enough to force diaspora jews into taking Israel's side for protection (which already happened before)

>>216167613
i can't be bothered with that nonsense, ask britney spears

>>216167671
either come here or die, i don't care. american jews doubledipping in whiteness need to take a stand and stop using their 1/8th ancestry card to give us bad rep

>>216167679
Okay...

>>216165077
They're all hamas o algo

>>216167701
Exhibit A. Contrast with European Jews whose response to the holocaust was to shift their ethos towards liberalism and empathy

>>216167756
survival preceeds empathy

Do jews have a plan in case the impossible happens and americans chimp out demadning ALL aids for Israel to stop?

>>216167671
I think people are finally realising Israel doesn't necessarily represent Jews, it's just the old guard of elites/ boomers that perpetuate the narrative.
The Israel elite doesn't even care about their people imho, they use the people who live near Hamas and occupied territories as cannon fodder. October 7th was the culmination of over a century of Israeli warmongering, hell the state has actually funded Hamas for a decade in order to exclude and legitimate Palestinian authority capable of governing themselves, that policy is partially responsible for what happened.

>>216167802
cucumber

>>216167802
we embrace autarky and the tiktokification of women stops. sloptech dies and mofos are sent to communal farms

>>216165789
Least Hyperborean Aryan:

>>216167834
>Cucumber
>"This is the state of Israel"
Powerful stuff. Brought tears to my eyes bro

>>216164858 (OP)
Most Isrealis are shit people I fucking hate this place everyone yells and swears adults yell at each other teenagers have no respect for anyone people are freely racist and evil and rude it just really sucks here

>>216168968
YNAGD

>>216165789
Cute eyes
I have چشم سبز دهاتی eyes

>>216167671
Do you think Israel is going to survive giving the extremism they endorse?

>>216165077
Human rights are for humans

>>216169407
This is meant to be satire of 1960s Israeli children's shows but cattle ass goyim chicanos post it like it's serious

>>216167671
>>216167824
Niggers we pray for the IDF & King and Country at every service. There is no Judaism outside Israel at its core besides the reform LARP

>>216169407
Jewish khazar milkers... I want milk so bad..

>>216169440
I haven't seen cattle ass goyim doing so. I thought it a good example of Israeli humour & satire

>>216169575
>we pray for the IDF
Diaspora jews actually do this? Holy grim

>>216164858 (OP)
>What's your opinion on Israelis in a non-political, non-war. non-religious sort of way?
pretty fucking difficult trying to have a neutral opinion when their de facto fascist genocidal regime is on the news 24/7. nutty yahoo will rot in hell, but preferably also in prison where he belongs

>>216170330
There's nothing grim about it. I'd pray for any of my compatriots fighting a war. Every other Jew I've spoken to has lived in Israel for a time, I don't think you have a grasp on how integrated our communities are outside the most deracinated hubs in the States.

>>216169575
Bro we know your religion is just a front for your mafia-style business and racial exclusivity policies, you don't have to pretend here

>>216165346
>If you're not the guy who's always "what is a 'palestine'?" then here's a serious reply:
It is him
notice all the tiktok shit >>216165197 >>216165438 >>216165697
This guy pays for a new 4chan pass every time he gets banned

>>216170656
What's his problem?
Israeli posters are either very chill or very retarded, there's no middle ground.

>>216170623
Nigger every religious group will prefer the company of its co-religionists. You wouldn't call an Australian Catholic's deference to the Vatican mafia-style business unless you're some insane baptist protestant

>>216170736
Because catholicism isn't a race-based suprematist cult

>>216170656
Don't pass users have a little tag next to their flag like in picrel

>>216170684
>What's his problem?
terminally online freak

>>216164858 (OP)
Everyone is evil and souless so all they have is normie culture