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>Thread #2064

Old thread here >>63697079

AK Buyer's Guides

>Rifles
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/SimpleBuyersGuide
>Magazines
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/AK_Mag_Buyers_Guide#Quality

>>63757549 (OP)
God I wish that were me

>>63757625
Add a bayonet and you're there.
>dimples and 3rd pin not included

Stop lurking faggot
>I can help

>>63758125

>>63758127

>>63758063
>>63758125
>>63758127
>>63758132
Goofy sporter Veprs are neat in their own way

>>63758153

>>63757549 (OP)
I remember seeing some picture of a Russian AKM with a smooth dust cover.
Was this ever a production thing? Or just some sort mix n match thing that happens in service?

i want a wooden dongle for my beryl ak.
is there one on the market?
how much modification does it take to make one work?

>>63758902
a wat?

>>63759145
Too bad the 10rnd mags look so funky. Nice rifle

>>63759166
Thank you
I actually like the way the 5 round mags look

>>63759168
Yeah, but they're only 5 rounds.

>>63759120
He wants that 2019 reddit special
He wants that cheese grater wit da heckin dongerino combo

>>63759223
Sounds like I get to enjoy the pleasure of reloading more often

>>63759238
That's a nice, positive way to cope.
>What are you gonna do, hit me with that fish?
How is the Crook kit holding up? I dont think I've asked, but why did you go with the mismatched colors? Availability?

>>63759655
I like contrast and have objectively bad taste

This general is dead as fuck, and the topics you speak about are fucking boring, who gives a fuck about your neutered bastard akm’s, you will never be an SVD

>>63759692
You sound upset. Perhaps posting AKs will help soothe your asshurt.

>>63758902
I think Beryls take standard AKM lower handguards but I havent tried it on mine

>>63759692
this. start talking about real important shit like jigs and diagrams for easy 3rd pin hole drilling and installation tutorials or fuk off like the cucks you are

>>63760279
All the info you want can be found on Google, officer.
>Post AKs nigger.

works on my machine
>>63760279
>>63759692
not my problem. post gun

>>63760279
>>63759692

>>63766769

>>63767025

holy smokes like a huckleberry stew! this place is dead....

>>63767135
Then post AKs and make it not dead faggot.

>>63767135
That’s good. It means the redditors have finally moved on and prices will go back down.

$1500 for a converted 223 Saiga is good right?

>>63767135
A combination of normies being priced out of Aks and oldfag kommandos being pushed out by the war tourists has done massive damage to akg.

>>63767309
>prices will go back down.

>>63767335
Yeah

>>63767361
Let's not forget all the fucking bans that affect only AKs. 7.62x39 steel core ban, 7n6 ban, chinese bans, Russian bans.
It's a fucking nightmare.
It's no wonder why nobody wants to get into AKs.

>>63767361
Nah, the oldfags are just busy talking about kike stuff instead of shooting

>>63767392
Okay cool, in about an hour I might own one.

>>63767610
Make sure its actually converted though.
>has threads cut
>NOT a clamp on gasblock/FSB
>NOT a bolted on trigger guard
>Rear trunnion properly installed, holes welded up

>>63767624
This is it if you wanna look it over.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1106459222

>>63767723
>https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1106459222
looks fine to me

>>63767774
Only thing that was odd to me was the wear on the boltface. Image 43 if you were curious.

>>63767783
Its just looks like rough machining to me. Ugly but its fine

>>63767844
I see, ty for your time anon.

>>63767844
pic rel is a 5.56 Chinese bolt IIRC.

Has /akg/ tried any of the airshit SVD cheek risers? Are there good reproductions available?

>>63768102
Is it for an SVD or are you just trying to throw it on something else?
>it's a cheek rest, airshit will be fine but don't expect the chink pleather to hold up

>>63768212
Its for a stock that I'm making. I don't care about the pleather because I have the materials to replace it. What I want is the clamping mechanism

>>63768243
Then sure, it should be fine. It's what $20? So even if you just end up with a frame and latch then you can remake the pad if/when it shits the bed.

>>63767774
Pretty sure that it has a Bulgarian front sight block, not an ak 100 series one.

>>63769000
anon just said converted not clone

I went and shot my AK today and noticed the front sight post was sinking into the FSB or whatever its called on an AK. Have you guys ever had this? It looks like a screw so does it need loctite?

>>63769192
Sounds like maybe the front sight post is stripped. New FSP might be an easy fix, over trying locktite as a bandaid.
https://ak-builder.com/index1.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30854
You could even get a different style over the standard stick as well

>>63769192
>>63769260
pull it out and tension it by spreading the legs with a screw driver
https://youtu.be/f_lkGgLXxLY?t=33

>>63767309
lol

>>63769000
>>63769017
I didn't end up getting it. While I could have thrown another bid at the rifle I decided not to. While it is a Saiga, it is some mutant parts build as you guys pointed out, and that would forever bother me. I sat up all night and just stared at what I have really wanted. I am gonna put a Beryl on layaway when I get up later. I know layaway is a bit of a meme anymore, but it will give me a little more wiggle room with my finances until I can sell off some stuff from my collection. Its funny, I never liked the Beryl. But I would say maybe a week or two ago I saw one on here I think and then watched a few videos on them, then saw a factory tour of FB and I knew I had to get one. Plus, if FB is honestly shutting down their Beryl line to go all in on the Grot the rifle will gain value and wont really be out any money if I don't end up liking it. ty /akg/, you guys have all been pretty good to talk to.

>>63770389
Different anon, Beryls (especially the first gen ones like picrel) are excellent guns in their own right. If WA wasn't so cucked I'd consider one myself.

>>63770467
>If WA wasn't so cucked I'd consider one myself.
Oof, hopefully you don't live in or near Seattle at least.
>Classic Beryl
Yeah that is what I was gonna go for. I habe seen a few of those wire stocks around and they aren't too crazy expensive. But for around the same price I could also get a Bonesteel/CNCwarrior folding stock. Plus I like AK stocks to fold left, and with the receiver being empty on the left side it makes even more sense. I saw some old school Beryl sight mounts on RTG and was thinking of maybe picking one of those up too.

It's been a while since I've been into rifles so I'd like to get some stuff straight.
A: If I want 7.62x39 then I should go WBP and expect to pay around $1000.
B: If I want 5.56 (and I do) then I should get a Beryl and I should expect to pay around $1500.
That about right?

Also what's the opinion on PSA's Bizon? I know it's PSA but it's not like I'll be trusting my life to it.

>>63773254
>Also what's the opinion on PSA's Bizon? I know it's PSA but it's not like I'll be trusting my life to it.
It's an AKV with a body kit. Those POS blow up on their own and PSA blamed it on the ammo. Until the guns started blowing up with AAC rounds.

>>63773504
Of course, fuckin' PSA. Maybe I'll ask Ruger to make a Bizon that takes GLOCK mags and they'll be crazy enough to do it. So scratch the Bizon, what about the rest?

>>63773584
>So scratch the Bizon, what about the rest?
You got it right with your first post. Just be aware of the wonky mag interchangeability w/ 5.56 AKs.

>>63773254
PSA partnered with Stuff and Things for the AKV kit but it can be bought separately and will also fit on a KP9 and 9mm Dracos IIRC. It’s a neat toy and glad to have “Bizon at home” but it’s just that. I wouldn’t give PSA your hard earned cash unless it’s a deal that can’t be had elsewhere.

>everything else
Pretty much, although Beryl imports are expected to dry up if they haven’t already, as FB Radom focuses production on the Grot rifle. Once that happens prices will jump since they are a limited quantity.
I decided I wanted a 7.62x39 Beryl as my a souvenir (and my first real AK) for a month long work trip to Poland. I’m hopeful (coping) that for some reason they’ll continue production of those for whatever third world country that wants them but I’ll probably end up settling for a WBP and spend the rest on ammo.

>>63773614
>>63773642
Cool, cool.
If either of you have anything to say about magazines then I'm all ears. This beryl will be my first 5.56 so I can start from the ground up.

I made something for you guys

>>63774636
Fuck forgot to attach pic

>>63774643
Congratulations, you remade an M90NP.

>>63775287
I also forgot to attach the image.
Fuck

AK bros, are Arsenals still gtg? Thinking of getting a SAM7 soon.

How the fuck you suppose to grip an AK47?

>>63775482
are you fucking retarded?

Have any of you reddit fags bought one of these yet?

>>63775482
By the dong obviously.
>or taller sights

>>63775558
No, because this isn't rebbit, phoneposting nigger.

>>63775630
I'll phone post all I want and you can't stop me, I'm doing it now!

>>63775760
Ok.
Then no, nobody's bought one of those Polish kt builds.

People are sleeping on these

>>63776158
>$1700 milled meme built by literally who
Yeah

>>63776226
southern tactical

>>63776838
>southern tactical
Whomst?

>>63776226
>>63776951
https://southerntactical.com/

Being intentionally obtuse makes you look like an absolute fucking tool you know that right?

>>63776951
They've been making parts for a while. A lot of the "affordable" parts kit builds on the market are from them. G3's, Galil, VZ-61 etc . The only bad things I've heard about them came from the VZ-61 receivers. The first run was horribly out of spec but the subsequent runs fixed that.

source: have one. I think they had to stop making them because they caught a lawsuit or C&D from CSA due to being too similar IIRC

>>63776997
>as if I can't google
Nigger, that's not what I meant and you know it. They're fucking nobodies with zero reputation at least in the AK arena, overcharging and hocking their shit through Scamlantic.
>>63777003
>K, keep me posted

>>63759120
Still didnt change the trigger out for the polish one that comes with it?

Personally I find it so much better

How much was that stock tho

>>63770076
God fucking dammit thats like 1k right there

>>63775294
The one i posted has a paddle mag release

>>63775941
They are cool but really expensive to build them.

>>63780247
It's probably a lot more than $1k. Izzy 45s are pretty steep last time i looked.

>>63780247
>Welcome to AKs, where even the books are over a grand.

I wanna take these out shooting and see how they look. Its just hard to find time to go to the range at dusk when sunset is after 9:00pm
>>63780719
Get vol. 2 and don't pay more than $250.

>>63781515
>Get vol. 2 and don't pay more than $250
Lel. $450 is the cheapest I could turn it up. I was just pointing out the AK market is kinda fucked.
>my copy is fine

>>63781558
Nice books anon, I need to take more pics of mine. These are just some recent ones I grabbed
>we found the /k/lit

>>63781574
Thanks, nice books as well.
I just added this recently, been contemplating getting all 30+ AK books by Rob Stott. But I'm kind of a hard cover snob and it might be difficult to get them all in that format.
>All my books are AK books

>>63781618
>30+
Or 17 rather. I don't know why I thought there were so many more.
Now i really might just grab them.

the fuckin SAIGA spammers are hilarious. the only reason people think theyre worth the money is because somebody told them theyre worth the money so they went and bought one, and then to justify their purchase they go tell 4chan about how the SAIGA is the best rifle and such a GREAT DEAL at EIGHTEEN HUNDREDS DOLLARS FOR AN UNCONVERTED SPORTER! So what if its just a basic bitch SPORTER with mediocre build quality and CAST components, its RUSSIAN! KC IS IZHMASH TOO SO ITS LIKE THE EXACT SAME THING! Just admit that you got into the AK game too late and that youre paying $1400 more than you should be paying for literally no reason, REDDIT is jewing you but you dont want to admit it because you dont want to see like a retard for paying over $400 for a featureless rifle

>Look Mom I posted it again!

>>63780235
A Polish one came with it? I'll have to look for it. The stock was like $250, it came from Poland in three different shipments.

>>63782378

Thoughts on the Romanian RPK clones? (AES-10B2) Thinking about getting one since I always liked the RPK

>>63757549 (OP)
sorry this is dumb but i have a modern polymer AK bayonet i dont remember the specifics but when i try to put it back in the sheath theres a lot of resistance. the blade metal is cheap and shitty so i dont want to force it and dull the tip, is there some trick to it, like does it have to be facing a certain way, or do i just need to give it some force

>>63786257
>do i just need to give it some force
Yes. There's an insert to keep the blade held firm. You can add a drop or 2 of your lubricant of choice to help insertion.

I require assistance

>>63786229
>AES-10B2
When did they add the 2?
Also, consider one of the newer M72s.
I think they're using CL barrels on them now as well.
I digress, RPKs are awesome.
Get one or 3

>>63786345
With what? Cleaning and rust prevention?

>>63786345
Push the hammer down with a punch while you wiggle the bolt out.

>>63757549 (OP)
Are these good to go? What 40 rounders do you guys use?
https://gunmagwarehouse.com/bulgarian-ak-47-7-62x39mm-40-round-reinforced-steel-lug-polymer-magazine.html

>>63786348
>When did they add the 2?
It's the newer production AES-10B, they have CL barrels as well. I think it comes down to aesthetic choice between M72 and the AES-10B2

>>63786513
>What 40 rounders do you guys use?
Do you really have to ask that?
But for $14 I'm sure those are fine, since most of the guys seem to like the 30 rounder versions of those mags.

>>63786563

If you wanted to build a 5.56 RPK, would you have to use a RPK74 kit and modify it?

>>63786695
It would probably cost less in time, money and headaches to just buy a 5.56 RPK.
The Vepr IV and Chinese AKS-223 are 2 that come to mind.

If your ak needs a recrown, how much does that usually cost, and doesnt it fuck the barrel if its chromed lined because it would cause it to start chipping?

can someone tell me if this dong will fit a baryl ak

>>63787460
Do you think the factory chrome-lines the barrel first or populates/ threads the barrel first?

>>63787748
forgot pic

>>63787751
I would assume they plate the barrel after they cut the grooves.

>>63787754
Yeah but that looks like absolute shit.

>>63786695
Would easier to buy one but 5.56 RPK types are rather rare. Arsenal sold 23" 5.56 RPK barrels at one point but I can't remember the last time I've seen them in stock. 5.45 RPK / VEPR are uncommon as it is. If you really wanted one I would buy a complete 5.45 gun and have somebody swap the barrel and bolt

>>63787754
>>63787748
lower handguards for Beryl are AKM spec so you're good. Its the upper that you have to worry about. I don't care for how it looks but its your rifle

>Buy an AK74 parts kit about a year ago
>It was missing a tunnion
>Spend a year off and on looking for one
>Only luck I have are those overpriced ones from that IvanDrago kike on FuddBroker
>Say fuck it and decide to list the kit on said Fuddbroker
>Listing some receivers I also have I went to Recreator to see what I paid for them
>See there is a trunnions tab now
>They have AK74 forged trunnions
>Out of stock but it seems they do runs every few months
>Fugg
What should I do /akg/? The auction hasn't gone live and I can cancel the auction since it is scheduled to go live here in a few hours and take the L on the listing fees or just say fuck it and let the kit go? I was planning on selling it to just get a Beryl or a Jack if that makes a difference.

>>63757549 (OP)
Randomly stumbled across a NHM-90 stock for $10. Doesn't fit my AK but I wasn't planning on using it on the one I have right now anyways, though weirdly the fitment is off differently than what I would've expected. But what the hell were the Chinese (or American importers) thinking with that grip design on the thumbhole stock? It's flat backed inside the front of the thumbhole with a sharp radius. Front to back the grip of the thumbhole stock measures 1" on a (tapered, average) 1.5" wide grip. Has any other gun ever been designed with a pistol grip or thumbhole stock wider than it is long? It would've cost less, been more comfortable, and been stronger if they cut out a smaller hole instead (like the nicer MAK-90 stocks). Also it has some nice curly figure on one side which I've noticed a decent amount of Chinese AKs seem to have IIRC.

>>63768102
Am I crazy or is that basically just a jar latch? By that I mean the type with a glass lid, flat ring seal with a tab, and wire ring and hinge.

>>63774437
Huh, I have nearly that exact cabinet and never thought about using it for handguns. Maybe I should put my more interesting accessories and dots/scopes in it.

>>63787460
Bumping for halp.

>>63788210
>selling it to just get a Beryl or a Jack
Beryls/Jacks are a downgrade from a good kitbuild imo. Unless the kit is causing enough headache to make you lose sleep, stick with it and get it built.

>>63789318
I priced everything out. I also failed to mention it is a Saiga sporter kit. Between needing a new receiver (I learned ak builders don't touch 80%'s), the FSB/comp, GB, handguard retainer, gas tube, trigger group, mag catch/trigger guard, trunnion, a shitty 4.5mm Bulgarian side folder, finally the cost to have CW GW build it the whole build would be over $1800 with everything I already got into it. That is also not including the $300+ for the cerakote CW gunwerks quoted me too. I thought about it more since I posted and I'd rather just have the Beryl since it is 'cheap' by comparison.

>>63789318
>good kit build
>doesn't have original trunnion
>god knows what other mix matched parts are in it
Dude, a Beryl would definitely be better than whatever shitkit he has, don't buy a jack. Also, 545 is dead.

>>63786937
>>63787799
checked
Interdasting. I was not aware of the 5.56 RPKs already in existence.

>but a complete 5.45 rpk and swap the barrel and bolt
OF COURSE. Thanks, fellers.

>>63789849
>mfw I just checked the price of RPK74s

>>63789490
>failed to mention it is a Saiga sporter kit
understandable, sell it then.
>>63789829
>545 is dead
and death is at 762x39's door. We do it for the love the the machine, not to have a cheap gun with cheap, plentiful ammo.

got a psa cheese grater, what's the trick to get it on there.... will turn about 1/4 of the way and then bind up

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Just won a debate about AKs on /int/

>>63790139
Wow you're cool

>>63790139
no one cares faggot

>>63790139
Resorting to chatgpt means you've already lost the debate

>63790139
if you ever post /int/shit on my board again I will rape you to death

>>63790139
wow anon thats so cool im so proud of you

>>63790139
Everybody knows Bulgarian rifles are not real AKs, they're sparkling assault rifles.
>Dunning Kruger strikes again
In reality, there are no real AKs; only upside down automatic Garands :^)

Might get a JTS M12AK on sale and slap a laser, foregrip, whatever other cheap bubba accessories are at the same sporting goods store.
Not gonna bother with an optic, it's for fun.
Goal is to keep it around $300 total, not including any extra shells.

>>63790597
I recently got one. its fine for a $300 gun. Make sure you get the T2 because you can use regular AK stocks unlike the M12

>>63790605
That's good to know in the stocks, thanks anon. They just seem fun.
If I do it, the plan is to have it have relatively comparable looks to a Tapco SKS from back in the day. Big boom, clunky, bottom dollar tacticool.

Installing a Barwarus dustcover is kicking my ass right now. The holes dont line up with my B10U if I put the little arms all the way down and now there’s a super narrow gap on the left side of the dustcover that I can see through if I put it towards the light. Any ideas why that might be?

>>63790996
pics nigga

>>63790996
i've never messed with zenitshit but ive heard its file to fit on certain models
time to bust out the dremel

>>63759120
Can you work the safety with the stock folded?

>>63788939
>It's flat backed inside the front of the thumbhole with a sharp radius.
One of these?

>>63773584
If you really want a 9mm AK that is good and costs less than the AKV anyways then go and buy a Draco 9S. They are made in Romania by the factory that makes WASR's. I have no idea why PSA thinks they can charge $1k for a AKV when they dont even put an out of battery safety in them. (hence all the explosions)

>>63774643
I actually like the idea of this gun just because if PSA is going to make American abomination AK's then they may as well make a distinct abomination that is logistically feasible for the American market. PSA should make their own interpretation of the AK47 instead of trying to make actual AK47's and fail at it.

>>63791476
This is incorrect, they are manufactured by Nova Modul which is located in Cugir, but is not the Cugir factory. It is essentially a Nak9 with a polymer scorpion mag adapter. It’s definitely a range toy and I treat it as such, but dollar for dollar I’m pretty happy with it. I use it for local PCC matches.

>>63791560
>Nak9
>Not a TAK-9
Nice gat anyways.

>>63768102
I have tried a few ages ago but all of them had the issue of being made for different dimensions than the OG SVD stock. Plus the latches were extremely weak in my experience.

>>63791013
Apologies my nigger, I fell asleep.

>>63790655
>the plan is to have it have relatively comparable looks to a Tapco SKS from back in the day

>>63792876
Unfortunately I don't think you an do anything about that. The holes just don't line up. I wouldn't worry about it so long as its secure and the dust cover is relatively parrael to the barrel. Use Loctite. Its fine

>dust cover gap
do you mean between the dust cover and receiver? Less ideal. Install it 100% and see if wobbles. If it does you might have to wrap it in something soft and bend or crush it so that its tighter. Don't do that until you've verified that its actually an issue

>>63793145
Yes. There’s a very thin gap between the receiver and the dustcover and a small hole where it meets the trunnion. When it’s all screwed together I feel no wobble whatsoever but it’s super annoying. Pic related is the rail off the rifle and the gap persists. Should I just nut up and loctite it down? Part of me wants to nut up and buy a compatible Zenitcope hand guard that will fit nicer but there’s few options for short hand guards and I’m not buying current Zenit prices.

>>63793244
This is just the reality of AK parts and you got unlucky. Maybe you could fill the gap with JB weld. which would act like a bedding of sorts and minimize wobble. People sometimes like to accurize their rifles by filling gaps with semi-squishy stuff like glass epoxy because it makes things tigther. You don't wanna glue them together but instead you goop some on one part and then file it away until it fights with some pressure.

Lay some masking tape around the parts you don't want high heat JB weld and then lay it on there. You now have a file-fit part. JB weld can be painted to so nobody but you will know its bubba'd. Its annoying but thats what I would do if I were you and didn't want to spend anymore money.

>>63793392
that came out like I had a stroke

>>63793392
I might just live with it since I don’t reckon it’ll cause any issues.
Anyways here she is.

>>63793546
Niggerific

Not even russian game devs want to deal with the mess that the TKB-022 internals are.
This is a still from the game The Cube, a multiplayer spinoff from Atomic Heart.

>>63795114
>not using the TKB-022M

>>63791224
No, one of these (generic pic because lazy). Also the buttplate is not fitted and no attempt was even made lol. Good 1mm overhang on top, 2mm on bottom. The pistol grip itself has a flat back. Always thought they looked silly compared to a MAK-90 sporter but wow, holding an NHM stock really cements that. Silly design choices for sure.

>>63757549 (OP)

>>63795114
>Atomic Heart.
what a boring ass game. the twins pornos on r34 is the only good thing that came out.

>>63795915
It ain't so bad, it's got new game plus so you get to keep all your upgraded gear

>>63795876
Any farther back and that optic would be on the stock.
The only nigga to get scope kissed by a red dot.
Does that actually work for you?
>I'm not gonna shit on the cherry red furniture or non yugo bayonet. Yet.

>>63795972
It's a prism optic, it doesn't have much eye relief. It works just fine for me

>>63795876
century arms slop.

>>63796144
Hey man, the BFT47 is a solid rifle. It doesn't spontaneously disassemble like other century AKs

>>63796332
so you knew how bad century AKs are and bought that piece of junk anyhow. Plus, BFTs have already had safety recalls.

cope and seethe. Should have just gotten a wasr

>>63796423
It had one recall on a specific range of rifles that does not include mine

Looking for a decent 5.45 and I'm being offered an Interarms AK74SA from a local for ~$800.00. Worth it or would I be buying a hand grenade? Didn't see this in the buyers' guide.

>>63795915
The twin bot porn was enough for me.

>>63797218
It's a bulgarian kit build with a US receiver & barrel. Should be fine, just give it a decent look over. I have one with zero issues.

>>63796332
Lmao no it’s not dude

bump

>>63799889

Your shitty and insanely boring general deserves to die, faggot

>>63800075
"No"

>>63800075
What does it say about you as a man if you bother lurking somewhere shitty and insanely boring?

>>63773254
>PSA
Please Send an Ambulance when you're AKV eventually fires out of battery and blows up your fapping hand. God forbidden you get a GF3, GF4, or GF5 hand grenade and die a poorfag death.

>>63800296
>die a poorfag death
Someone has to be a guinea pig for Pretty Shit Arsenal's R&D into doing shit the retarded Soviets figured out decades ago.
>some of you will die, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

>>63773254
I bought an AKV and it fucking blew up, to PSA's credit they did accept a full refund with a single email

you have been warned

Bless

>>63800318
Century has been at it longer than Poverty Suck Armory and they still can't make a safe domestically produced AK. They are worse than the soviets and combloc factories. Maybe it's a curse that AKs cannot be made right in capitalist countries.

>>63801357
>Maybe it's a curse that AKs cannot be made right in capitalist countries.
There's something to that, because of the State buying the industrial equipment to properly forge components.
Most manufacturers aren't liquid enough to sink multiple millions into machinery that will take decades to recoup. So they cut corners and sell half assed AK shaped guns which just tanks any trust in them in the future.
>It's kind of like the reputation WASRs got and even to this day get, because of a few shit years of QC. Not exploding guns, just canted sights and shit cut magwells got them branded as What A Shitty Rifle

>>63787802
here is my rifle. i think that dong would match well to the upper.

>>63801357
>Century has been at it longer than Poverty Suck Armory and they still can't make a safe domestically produced AK.
Because this >>63801419 would be risky as domestically produced AKs would cost the consumer way more than imports. Would you buy an AK for twice the price of an import? Probably not. So they won't make that risky investment and they try to exist in a price bracket below import AKs.
They're shit on purpose for the poor market. Unfortunately for the uneducated poors it seems to be a working business model.

>>63800296
Has a GF5 ever actually blown up? Mine is approaching 5k rounds and has yet to show anything super concerning. I trust it the least out of my AKs but it is ironically the most pleasant to shoot.

>>63802936
PSA has figured out how to make AKMs, they worked out the big problems years ago with the GF3. Now they just need to work on their other AKs. The krink has done pretty well so far

>>63802943
I think I would trust my GF5 a lot more were it not for an early (300-round) firing pin replacement that I had to make because of a few light primer strikes. I replaced with an Arsenal pin and it’s been fine since, although I recently opened it up and I think the back of the pin is longer than PSA’s by a little and so it has made a nice little nick on the rear trunnion. I’m hoping a 3 position FRT comes out soon so I can make it my guinea pig rifle.

Is there any sort of quick release attachment I could use to mount my Zastava M70 wood stock? I see options to convert to folding or even an ar-style tube, but I just want a QR option for going to and from the range without having to bust out the hex wrench. Thanks in advance o7

>>63803483
Why are you removing your stock between range trips? Lets deal with that first

>>63803490
Easier transport?

>>63803503
Quit that shit nigga thats retarded. There aren't any QD stocks because thats kind of not conducive to reliability or durability. The closest you can get to QD is a 1913 picatinny adapter. Then you can nigger rig some QR clamp in between your stock and the adapter. Just look up "1913" or "picatinny rail stocks" and find one that you like. There's plenty of stocks that include their own folding mechanism too.

Just get a folding stock like everybody else

>>63803520
I thought I asked about a QR adapter? Not your fucking opinion

>>63803526
I know this general is dead but that doesn't mean you can b8 like this

>>63803503
>>63803483
Zoomers are fucking retarded.

>>63803735
its b8. don't respond. Whenever /akg/ starts to get really, really dead this guy starts tardposting

>>63803738
isn't there some kind of anime ~dere archetype for that? Like when a girl acts retarded to get the attention of the MC?

>>63803757
You know it

>>63803995
bakadere?

>>63805418
i got the magpul moe furniture in plum and it just looked brown and i hated it, surely actual russian plum looks more purple right?

>>63801441
Where can I find that gas tube adapter?

>>63780719
I tried to find an online PDF version of it and could never find one, every and now then someone post a snippet of a page.

>>63808117
>I tried to find an online PDF version of it and could never find one
As far as i know, there isn't a digital copy of it. I used the IBN to look too. Almost all the AK reference books are physical only it seems. About the only thing digital you'll find that's even tangentially related is The Gun by CJ Chivers.
>every and now then someone post a snippet of a page.
The only pic I can recall being specifically from the grim reaper is this one about Egyptian steel waffles and bakelites.

>>63808290
It's a shame good knowledge is being paywalled, soon to be forgotten.

>>63808298
>>63808290
>>63808117
>>63780719
The internet is a thing. Why do you guys care about this book in particular? Its not like there is some sort of uber-secret exclusive knowledges thats contained in this book alone.

>>63808309
>Its not like there is some sort of uber-secret exclusive knowledges thats contained in this book alone
Correct. You need to get all the AK books to gain that.

>>63808309
I'm not going to scour the Internet and make accounts through dozens of forums looking past hundreds of shitposts just to find some niche AK info.

>>63808450
But you will toil away trying to find an overpriced out-of-print stack of paper though

>>63807575
fag

>>63808450
I will and currently do.
The autism compels me to do it.

i impulse bought a romanian akm
its a intrac import, reimported to yurop
the markings are make with dots not the white paint
its is made by sadu
year seems to be 1997
did I do well ? what are the chance it is a piece of crap ?
the wiki seems to imply it might be higher quality, it it got the straight cut receiver
it comes with a standard stock, but I want to mount a psl style thumbhole stock on it

>>63786695
Several guys on akfiles have made M82 clones using M72 kits. You'd need to find a bolt that would work and have a barrel custom made by obstrepus
>>63786937
Arsenal used to assemble milled RPK-5 as well. They're all pretty uncommon

>>63809606
>Sadu
Its probably a WUM rifle. Made on a military production line but intended for the Civillian US market. Unfortunately they were banned in the early 2000's-late 90's so they're mostly stuck floating around Europe and getting turned into parts kits for US import. Generally lower quality compared to CUGIR. I have a WUM-1 and its quite ugly compared to my other Romanian stuff. Its fine though.

The dot markings you're talking about were done with an electro-pencil most likely. There are Romanian PSl style AKM stocks that you can install on your rifle. APEX gun parts in the US currently has them but I'm not sure if they will ship to a yuropoor. They didn't want to ship things to me when I lived overseas.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/romanian-psl-fpk-7-62x54r-buttstock-complete-unfinished.html

>>63808309
>The internet is a thing. Why do you guys care about this book in particular? Its not like there is some sort of uber-secret exclusive knowledges thats contained in this book alone.
Because
a. Primary and secondary sources are important, especially when people in this community are prone to spreading rumors that snowball into neo-fuddlore.
b. It covers obscure AK variants and production details and provides good clear shots of whole guns, internal shots, and accessories.
c. Lots of good AK knowledge is hosted on boomer forums that are liable to go down with no warning or archives. Even the ones that are still around don't save images very well either.

>>63808117
>>63780719
>>63808290
I can't scan mine but if you guys have any pages you want to see I'll try and upload pictures of them.

>>63790996
Barwarus suck ass.

>>63812045
Are there any pages that show pictures of the insides of the factories that made AKS? Similar to this.

Saiganov project taking a break, AK-308 time

>>63812166
No large shots like that. Only close ups of Soviet/Russian and Iraqi factories.

>>63812248

>>63812253
That's pretty cool, a lot cleaner than I expected for an Iraqi factory.

I want to paint a rifle and slap cringe fagpul furniture on it, which rifle should I ruin?
>WASR
>WBP Jack
>SLR107R

>>63812166

>>63813767
WASR

>>63809606
So it's an export (Romania to US, US to Europe)? Neat. My 10/22 is a re-import (US anon).

>>63757549 (OP)
/g/ tourist here. I want to buy my first rifle. What polymer AK would you guys recommend?

>>63814048
SGL-31 or VEPR FM. SLR-104FR if you're on a budget.

>>63814082
>just blow $4k on an SGL in a dead caliber
>if that's too much, it's only $3500 for a currently produced, importable rifle also in a dead caliber
Is this place always retarded or is it just this faggot.

>>63814082
thank you for your recommendations

>>63814048
5.45 is the Arch of calibers fyi.
What is your budget? What do you want to do with it? Shoot it obviously but like, are you looking for a collectors gun, do you just want an AK, are you wanting to shoot it a lot?

>>63813956
it might also be a rifle that got stuck in europe before going to the US like >>63810373 said

only a few hours left until i get my hand on it, i'll be able to post more details then

>>63810373
the national registry give it as a INTRACS MK1 WUM-1 CUR (a mouthful), so I guess you are onto something.
I already bought a psl style stock for like your picrel
if the markings are electropenciled, it was machine made, i have electro pencil marking made freehanded on a both my m76, it look crappier than on the picture
mine also got a slanted muzzle break, a "classic" stock, and as far as I can tell, fsb mounted correctly, and I hope the full graduation on the rear sight

on a side note, did someone already tried printing a suppressor for 7.62x39 ? i found the files for "whisper in the desert", im just hoping it can take the heat or just wont explode with the muzzle blast
i intend on modifying it to get a pbs-1 look, or maybe make a pbs lookalike myself using metal

>>63814101
>What is your budget?
preferably less than $2000USD
>What do you want to do with it?
>are you wanting to shoot it a lot?
I have a decent amount of land so I can basically go shooting whenever I want. Probably 2-3 times per month. That and home defense.

>>63814104
>if the markings are electropenciled, it was machine made
The other anons was close. It's called dot peening. Here's some more info on that.
https://www.pannier.com/marking/dot-peen/what-is-dot-peen-marking/
As for the rifle, neat find.
Here's some other discussion about Sadu and Wum-1s that you might glean some info from.
https://www.theakforum.net/threads/sadu-vs-cugir-lets-discuss.189047/

>>63814104
>>63810373
>>63814127
There were also the moon cut romys but those are much older and rarer these days.
>>63814120
The worlds your oyster then really.
Get something in 7.62 or 5.56. 5.45 is cool but on its way out until Russia isnt sanctioned.
I suggest a Zastava M92. Its one of my favorite guns to shoot. 7.62x39mm subsonics are very quiet with a can too.

>>63814120
pic rel

>>63814104
god i fucking hate boomers
"muh indestructible" "300 shot fired"
then why is the gaz system corroded and the muzzle brake almost welded from rust ?
fucker probably shot corrosive surplus ammo and though the "indestructible" rifle didnt need any cleaning
gaz tube was covered in rust, barrel is (thankfully) okay but with traces of pitting, piston head is pitted, gaz block is black and dull, rough to the touch
thanks for reading my rant blogpost

to be fair, its not too bad, but far from the condition I expected
picrel is the muzzle brake after scrubbing
the rifle have a non standard rail, i guess from a PSL
otherwise im happy
with one hour of scrubbing, i managed to get most of the rust out, oiled the fucker and i cant wait to get it on a range

what is the best way to remove rust from the gaz tube ? i ran a steel wool ball in it, soaked in oil, tight enough that i had to it the ramrod i used to make it advance
also, is there a way to stabilize rust to avoid further oxidation ? being a yuropoor, i will run surplus ammo in it (albeit with the fucking steaming hot shower after range day)

>>63814412
>the rifle have a non standard rail, i guess from a PSL
Its not exactly a PSL side rail but it is very similar and SVD type. The PSL side rail has spotwelds and is slightly longer compared to the WUM.

>is there a way to stabilize rust to avoid further oxidation
You can boil it in distilled water which will convert the brown rust into a black finish. Its a form of bluing and good for hard to reach places or very stuck parts. That will stop rust completely but change the finish of the entire part though. Alternatively you could rub some kind of rust converter on it. I don't know which brands are available in Europe but there's stuff you can smear/spray onto of rust which will turn it black.

>>63814412
That's called "patina" in boomer speak.
To be fair, it is a Sadu; one of the lowest of the 4 Romanian Arsenals so the quality is going to be lesser.
As for the gas tube, I've always used a 12g bore brush, but my gas tube isn't rusted so ypur milage may vary.
>is there a way to stabilize rust to avoid further oxidation ?
Rust stabilizers are available such as Phosphoric acid (ospho) or more commercial stuff like Rust reformer.

>>63813769
Do you think if PSA had more women, it would produce better guns?

>>63815413
No. Because they'd be American women.
>now if they could pay them like women think they're paid (.75 vs 1.00) then maybe PSA could buy the necessary hammer forges to make real AKs

>>63813767
WASR if youre gonna ruin it

>>63815462
What about femboys and trannys?

>>63816176
too busy making WASRs

How would you guys do a full gear setup for a 7.62x39 RPK with a focus on 40 rounders? In my search, I found picrel. Do any of you guys know where I could find a Grad 2 Gunner kit? Also, do any of you recognize that little brand on the tag there?

>>63817869
nvm I guess it's just a smersh RPK vest. Can't find this one specifically though.

Are pioneer arms AK's good or are they on the same level as something shitty like Century arms. If its shit I'll probably just get an SKS or something.

Is there any trigger even worth thinking about besides the ALG?

>>63817965
That's the old logo so yeah hard to find. Look on Ebay and strongly consider the Chink knockoffs. They're not bad. Honestly they're probably the same considering how fucked Russia's supply chain has been over the last few years.
>>63818043
I'd buy a Pioneer before a Century build. Keep in mind Pioneer USA has gone out of business though.
>>63818055
I wouldn't even recommend an ALG trigger unless you're doing competition shooting. Great and crispy but too light honestly.
Tapco G2, RAK-1, FIME, even PSA are all good to go. Out of all of the above my favorite is the RAK-1 after about 500 rounds of break in.

>>63818182
>Great and crispy but too light honestly.
see I'm an AR main so I like that shit

>>63800890
Bless
>captcha XJANK

>>63818182
Thanks, anon
>strongly consider the Chink knockoffs
Where would you look for those, airsoft sites?

who sells normal euro surplus foreign fire control groups? id like to order a set just to have as a novelty lol i mean think about it like that would be soooo weird hahah if you just had a standard issue group of AK parts that like imagine if they fell into your AK on accident after someone made an extra hole during SHTF when theres no rule of law haha lol that would be like totally weird

>>63818182
I was more so just wondering cause I know Classic Firearms has pic related in stock pretty regularly

>>63818375
They also say they have one of these for like 50 bucks less, and its the one I would prefer but I wont have the money for either for a few months at least and I doubt it will still be available by then. Hopefully it is or they get more in stock by then.

>>63818383
Forgot pic related, I need to kill myself

>>63817869
Are the knockoff Smersh vests on ebay okay? Because fuck paying Kommandostore prices on that shit and their Gorka suits.

>>63818446
I have no idea. They couldn't be that bad, right? At least on airsoft level. I kinda want to grab one and find out, but that will have to wait.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/205048865101
https://www.ebay.com/itm/395809005002

>>63818186
That tracks. I like ALGs in some AKs as well for that reason but they're faaaaar lighter pulls than surp triggers.
>>63818210
Unironically Ebay.
>>63818226
Just like AR-15/M-16 select-fire FCGs, anyone can own one because they're not machine guns. Get one from your favorite vendor.
>>63818375
>>63818383
>>63818388
I don't know the prices for those but I'd still suggest a WASR over all of those provided the WASR is 700 or less.

>>63818501
>Unironically Ebay.
Oh, duh. I'm rarted and thought you were referring to other websites in conjunction with ebay. Thanks, brah.

>>63818501
The first one is 700 and the one with the polymer furniture is 650, and I doubt I would be able to find a Wasr for as cheap as that. All the pawn shops and LGS's in my area are greasy and overcharge to hell and back.

>>63818527
Get the cheaper one then buy furniture you want.

>>63818540
Great idea

>>63818553
It's an AKM so you'll have a ton of options

>>63818586
Yeah, was already looking at a metal upper handguard, they look pretty schweet

>>63818597
>muh heckin cheese graterino
Kys faggot pRedditor. It's bad enough these niggers are actually helping you buy a piece of shit pioneer.

>>63818665
Boohoo nigga, God forbid someone thinks a fucking piece of metal with holes in it looks cool. Actual fucking crybaby getting upset over nothing.

>>63818693
>God forbid someone thinks a fucking piece of metal with holes in it looks cool.
Yes.

>>63757549 (OP)
Zastava M70 or WBP Jack?

>>63818704
I agree that pioneer is shit but you are also a faggot for speeding over something as pointless as an metal upper handguard. What's even the reason for them being reddit shit.

>>63818749
>What's even the reason for them being reddit shit.
>>63816451

>>63818754
Yeah alright, you win this one

>>63818727
Are you prepared for the Yugo specific autism or do you just want a nice AKM that you can barbie doll up with almost all AK accessories?
>go with the Jack

Since pioneer is shit and WBP is out of my price range, how much should I be paying for a Wasr.

>>63819492
>WBP is out of my price range
No it's not. Practice some discipline and save for a little longer.
WASRs are pricing themselves out at their current price point imo. Look into the DIY WBPs that have the FB barrel, and find some furniture you like.
Also, wait a month there'll be some sales.
>would give you the time to save, as well.

>>63819492
Just buy an SKS if you're that poor

>>63818388
This is the one on Classic Firearms right? I was thinking about it since it says its forged and not cast which was the big issue with pioneer stuff for the longest time.
Link: https://www.classicfirearms.com/pioneer-arms-forged-series-ak-47-sporter-rifle-black-polymer-stock-7-62x39-s-a-2-30-rd-mags-polish-mfg-pol-ak-s-ft-p/

>>63819586
brother that's like 30 small meals at Burger King. You could feed a family of 4 nigglets + baby mama for a week on that

>>63819934
Ok. Easy fix.
>Stop eating trash and/or feeding niggers.
Simple as
Sometimes you gotta sacrifice today for a better tomorrow. It's called delayed gratification, learn it.

>>63820095
>bix nood muh fugguh

>>63820356
Fair enough.
>Get yous a draco den cuh.

>>63813782
>>63815831
Magpul requires you to cut the sling loop off, fuck that. Any other good cringe furniture options out there, preferably in FDE?

>>63820525
what year is it? 2009?

>>63820564
In my house, yes, all my rifles have surplus furniture

>>63820525
they make a version with the handguard cutout bruh. or just take a dremel to the handguard instead of cutting your fuggin rifle

>>63820525
Magpul is gay anyway why do you want it?
Get a KPYK handguard if you want a big gay handguard.

>>63821145
how heavy is that?

>>63821362
Sent you a PM

>>63821573
sending a picture of my asshole to your mom

>>63821591
K keep me posted

>>63821765
she said
>mmmmm yumyumyumyumyum lick lick lick

>>63813767
Slr to piss everyone off

>>63786563
>tape on grip pads or whatever the fuck those are
>metal upper handguard with a bunch of bullshit mounted to it
>cheap modern sling
look what they've done to my poor boy

>>63822843
Niggers cant just rivet on a dovetail mount or something, baka

>>63814412
Not this anon but keep in mind you still have to use #0000 steel wool to remove the remaining loose rust after boiling. Of course you also want to remove wood and plastic parts before boiling. After boiling, scrubbing the left over rust with steel wool, and drying, you want to oil the parts again as hot water is a great degreaser.

>>63816451
>trans flag
>dong intact
???

>>63819934
>>63820356
Fug stop making me want to put a PPS magwell on a 9mm AK.

>>63820525
Is there any reason you couldn't instead molest the Magpul furniture with a Dremel instead of the sling loop and make it work without permanently altering your AK?

>>63818043
pioneer aka io was worse than century, century was 4-5k lifespan. pioneer was a timebomb from round 1.

New thread

>>63823738
>>63823738
>>63823738

>>63823532
the furniture is removable and its fine to gucci out your v58, but doing that with its original furniture is a war crime

>>63823552
no