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Burt's absence last thread didn't go without notice. Though unhurt, I am disappointed by his juvenile protest. It's time for a break– take care of yourselves for now, everybody! Deuces

can you recommend a handgun for my gramps
a lifetime of working with his hands and some questionable osha (or lack thereof) regulations has left him with pretty much nonexistent grip strength
he only has use of his thumbs and forefingers, the last three fingers in both hands can barely close
he can shoot my .22s fine but i'm a little worried about anything above that

>>63858872 (OP)
Finna roll some niggas frfr.

>>63858938
Get a .22 revolver.

>>63858938
Get him a .22lr then, a gun you can shoot is a whole lot better than nothing. A .22 lr revolver would be best since you don’t have to rack a slide.

There is also the beretta 22a or whatever the tiny 22lrs are. They have tip up barrels so you don’t need to rack the slide, you can tip up the barrel and manually feed a round in

>>63858938
.32 ACP has killed many a negro and trweaker alike. It's little to no recoil, lots of light frames available, and easily concealable.

>>63858938
If he can barely close his middle, ring, and small fingers, he can't shoot anything but a revolver. Even that will be a stretch. .32 revolver.

>>63858953
>>63858956
>>63858957
>>63858968
thank you anons

>>63858968
>he can't shoot anything but a revolver
Wut? Wouldn't the revolver's tougher trigger pull be hard on him? Wouldn't a single action light trigger gun be better..?

Say I found a used one of these for cheap, or I could get an G26. I know the G26 is the smart choice, but I like the way the 938 looks. Is this retarded?

>>63859003
It works, i have one. It is small.

>>63858976
Don't be so quick. I don't think these guys have really thought this out.
If a dude has fucked old man hands, a revolver is worse. Worse grip, heavy and long double action pull, unless he wants to cock the hammer which requires even more time and motor skills.
Get him a gun that has an optics cut and an optic. Not only will the optic help his fucked up shitty old eyes, but he can use the entire optic as a lever to rack the slide.

>>63858992
Harder than what? A striker fired poly pistol? Maybe. But he'll probably limp wrist it if he can barely close the supporting fingers. A double action auto? No. A single action auto? Sure, but again, limp wristing. I doubt gramps will actually CC when he's shuffling around the local dollar tree, so honestly he should just get a reasonable long gun for home defense.

>>63859009
Give your grandma a J frame sized revolver and a glock, shield, whatever you're going to suggest. See which one she can actually get 6 rounds out of continuously. It won't be the semi auto, she's going to limp wrist it. You'd have to be bedridden to not be able to stroke the trigger on a 432 or something.

>watching a Roy video
>all the comments are some variation of “RIP Paul Harrell”
Does anyone else find that shit a little weird? He died like a year ago. I imagine the family doesn’t feel like seeing all those parasocial comments.

>>63859003
It’s my daily (pocket) carry. The G26 seems too fat.

>>63859053
>muh parasocial take from the troon
fuck off faggot

>>63859068
Go post another RIP comment, pussy boy

>>63859003
CSXE>938. 3/4" taller, basically the same width and length, twice the capacity.

>>63859009
Racking a slide is extremely difficult for older people

Sig P211, it uses P320 magazines

>>63859157
I don't know how I feel about this.

>>63859157
Looks faggy

>>63859183
Like the Staccato HD it has a Ambi slide release (+Ambi safety), the comp is a non threaded barrel attachment held by a roll pin it looks like. Likely the mag release may be reversible.

https://x.com/classicfirearm/status/1935368125500850454?s=46&t=uAG8cPK1tCKKj57X0913qQ

The slide has the Sig Loc cut which is some weird shit for the Romeo X Sig Loc cuts which the optic is like a mini Romeo M17. The gun uses P320 sights.

>>63859233
I dislike the grip and Magwell. Slide looks fine.

>>63859276
Hmmm. Why didn't they just call it a 2011? P211 makes me think they Frankenstein'd a P210.

I don't like how it uses p320 shit though. This was most likely already in the works by the time the p320 eNDed. Almost feels like they're still sour about it.

>>63859291
It might have a P210 style barrel like the DWX or Wilson Combat SFX9

>>63859291
2011 is trademarked by Jewcatto

>>63859157
I don’t like how the grip texture abruptly changes.

>i am blind and posted in old thread
My bad
>>63858306 #
>Springfield OPERATOR
I don't have a 1911 yet but I really want one of these.
Tell me not to.
Posting not-1911 cuz I posted other shit a few mins ago. I hate my TTC but I refuse to get rid of it.

>>63859579
The only reason I don’t have a TRP Operator is because I bought a Dan Wesson Specialist. Pretty sure the Dan Wesson’s Specialist name is them aping the name Operator, as Springfield was contracted to provide pistols like the Operator to the FBI, USMC, and other agencies. Springfield still makes this special “USMC Loaded Operator” which is closer to the spec they asked for, but pretty sure the TRP is above that one in features.

Springfield Armory is weird. They have nothing to do with the real Springfield armory, they imported shitty Brazilian frames to make 1911s, but at the same time operated a very good custom shop for 1911s, real Springfield Custom Shop guns go for a lot.

>>63859604
My friend has a SA 1911 which he really likes. I've shit it a few times and not found a reason to dislike it, so I'm somewhat familiar with their shit.
Another friend also had a Dan Wesson, that thing was just dreamy.

really?

>>63858888
>Wah some tripfag didn't post in my thread ;(
Do a flip faggot, and good riddance.

>>63858872 (OP)
>subcompact
>drum mag
lol
>>63858938
S&W 380 Shield EZ

>>63859003
I have a 938 and I fucking hate it. It’s incredibly ammo picky and you need a perfect grip on it or else it will fail to feed. How often will you have a perfect grip on a self defense pistol in an actual scenario?
>>63859062
>single action
>pocket carry
That’s simply a terrible idea

>>63859053
>reading comments
why?
>>63859157
>here’s a “new” pistol that’s the same thing available from several other companies already
yay?

>>63859701
It’s not the same pistol as other companies you stupid faggot fuck.

“Yay?” Yourself off a bridge in Portland

>>63859157
but the 1911/2011 looks are gone from that sig

>>63859684
It’s fine in my pocket. I don’t stick anything else in the pocket and I’ve tried to pull the trigger while in the holster and couldn’t do it. I feel it’s okay. Might be better if I didn’t have an ambisafety

Is this the only thing of its kind that exists?
https://www.hightowerarmory.com/HTA-MULTI-Base-MK-II-Glock%C2%AE-Sight-Picatinny-Rail-Adapter_p_53.html

Does any one know of ghost ring sights that attach via picatinny rail?

>>63859701
>responding to shitposting faggots
why?

Also, you’re a retard.

>>63859627
Your fault for thinking like a poopskin

https://youtu.be/o6HkKtKERbc

Buy a revolver

>>63859810
okay :)

>>63859810
I just did. I do want a blued SP101 though. I love the idea of .327 on paper, but it seems like it's on the verge of being a dead round, I've never seen the ammo at any LGS. I'd probably get a .357 just because it and .38 are probably not going anywhere for a while.

>>63859684
>>single action
>>pocket carry
>That’s simply a terrible idea
It has a thumb safety doesn't it? For it to go off in your pocket you'd have to have something turn the safety off and pull the trigger. Seems unlikely. Probably objective safer than a striker fired pocket gun with no thumb safety.

>>63859744
Never knew the Peackeeper was in 5.7. Explains the straight mags.

>>63859883
SP101 is a great gun, despite its infamous reputation. If you blue it, you're an absolute Chad. Also, neither 38, 357, nor 327 are going anywhere. Why would they?

>>63859968
Seems like .327 just doesn't have much market support or popularity.

>>63859968
I just wish they made a Match Champion version in blue. I might just have to buy the stainless version and DLC coat

What was the first handgun you bought /k/? For me it was pic related. How did I do?

>>63860117
I’m sorry

>>63860117
A Walther PPK/S

>>63860117
Not my photo, sold mine many years ago.

>>63858938
32 h&r S&W J frame. Models 632 or 432. Yes, the titanium cylinder model is worth the extra money, especially for pocket carry.

You can load them with light recoiling 32 S&W long so it feels like a 22. Get a hardcast load for defense. All 22lr revolvers have very heavy triggers whereas a 32 J frame has the standard trigger pull. No slide to manipulate, it will fire no matter how bad you grip it, safe DA trigger. You really can't do better than this for non gun people or people with compromised health/strength.

>>63859901
same until I saved that pic

>>63859003
Hell no. I had one and I didn't like it. The safety is way too small and it's hard to disengage when you pick up speed. Plus, single action feels extra sketchy when your are relying on India made MIM parts.

I've had a 26, sold it but got another. It's the best carry gun in it's category and is much better than the micro 9s. I sold a g48 to get the 26. It's really not that difficult to carry with a proper setup and a belt that has some stretch to it. Pair it with a g45/g47, get a mouse gun like a p32 and those are the only pistols you really need.

>>63859009
You've never taught an old person to shoot, have you?

32 revolver loaded with 32 long is as simple as it gets and because it's it's DA trigger, it's a safer gun, which is important for non gun people.

>>63859900
Yeah but you're putting a lot of trust in a sig product. I ditched my 938 when the first p320 fiasco happened. Sure, it's not the same gun, but I won't trust sig.

>>63859883
32 family of cartridges are making a comeback. I got 2 32 H&R snubs and I'm getting another soon. If I had extra money I would jump on the Lipseys 3" sp101 in 327 mag.

>>63859998
It could get there. Lipseys and the AFR crew getting S&W to release the 32 H&R J frame after 20 yrs is a huge step in the right direction. Now we just need them to make a .327 K frame with 7 shots. I would love to have something like that.

>>63860294
That gun has been around for some time, I'm pretty sure it predates the P320 by a bit. In any case, yeah I don't want a P365 because of the P320 thing, but an old used P938 speaks to me... I love the classic Sigs, regardless of modern sig problems.

I have 2 trigger bars and various other parts on order. All I need is a few springs, pins and another frame and I have 5 functional P220s.
Getting them to what I want is the harder part.

Beretta 92fs or 92A1? It's the second time I ask this, but I want to be sure, some anon said something something .40sw 92 but on 9mm, so no spare parts or parts harder to get

>>63860320
I get it, I thought it was the Cadillac of concealed carry when I had it, but I kept looking down at that fully cocked hammer and it didn't feel quite right. Personally I think SAO is sketchy on anything that isn't a 1911, simply because of the sample size. How many people carry a 938? How many rounds do they put through their guns? What parts fail, etc. I just have a hard time trusting it in general.

It was also too small, especially the safety. I also find that a g26 is worth the extra bulk for when I want a 9mm and a 32 snub is much lighter, safer, more reliable and more versatile for when I need something small. I do understand the desire for that one gun that can do both, but tiny 9mms haven't been it for me. To each their own, the p320 has tainted the entire Sig lineup for me and my personal experience with the 938 design, which is originally the Colt mustang, (I think Kimber and Springfield make a version too) has been lackluster. I will say that in a sea of boring polymer carry guns, the Mustang design does stand out and looks quite good.

>>63860381
92A1 has a proprietary recoil assembly and buffer system. If you just want a 92FS with a rail, look for the M9A1.

>>63860381
The pinnacle of 92s is the LTT Elite, which you can get the stripped down version from PSA for 700-750 dollars. It lacks the LTT Trigger job but otherwise it has every feature on a 92 you’d want. M9A1 rail, Vertec slide (front and rear dovetails, fiber optic front blacked out rear), thin grip panels, stainless target crown barrel,

Anyone here try the CZ-P09C? How did you like it?

>>63858976
If you were to invest in a Beretta 21A as >>63858938 mentioned, beware that it is very picky with ammo and will only really run with high velocity stuff such as Remington Thunderbolt.
t. 21A owner

>>63860413
Sorry, I meant >>63858956
To clarify further, I was speaking of the .22 LR variant

Can't post many details yet because I'm waiting for the legal dust to settle, but I had to use my pistol in self defense. Sucks giving it up, it's a really shitty feeling. Also this general seems to have gone to shit so I'll be back in a month or so (hopefully) to tell the story

>>63859883
>>63859998
>>63859883
Federal is producing more .327 magnum than ever before thanks to the popularity of .30 super carry. Coupled with the resurgence on .32 H&R, we could be do for a .327 renaissance.

>>63860445
Good luck, Anon

>>63860125
I feel you. I ended up selling it for a USP 45. Fucker jammed like a mofo.

>>63860445
US or another country?

>>63858938
if he's in his sixties, why didn't he get surgery for an obvious carpal tunnel syndrome

>>63860453
>the popularity of .30 super carry
.30 SC was dead on arrival and has never been popular.

>>63860517
Not according to Federal themselves.

>>63860532
>that will change for the better in 2024
This article seems outdated. Hi-Point and S&W are the only companies supporting .30 SC now, Nighthawk removed mention of it from their website. Literally nobody is investing in this cartridge or interested in developing it further.

>>63860445
Hey man it's your lawyer. Reaching out here because my emails and texts aren't going through for some reason but you're good to tell the story on here in full detail since it's anonymous.

Did someone say EDC? It's summer which means it's time to downsize. I bought this for pocket carry, it's so small and it just disappears in my pockets. Comfygun

>>63860637

Just picked up mine. Love it so far.

>>63860686
I have too many pistols as it is but none in 380 and none this tiny this is how I justified this purchase

>another garbage OP
i think i'm going to join the tripfags in taking a summer break

>>63860637
I'm thinking of getting an LCP Max. Or an LCR

>>63860745
Tripfags said they were taking a summer break? Did I miss something?

>>63860445
dont listen to this retard >>63860605, dont say shit to anyone until the case is finished
dont post about it, dont talk about it, only speak to your lawyer

>>63860445
hey it's me your lawyer

>>63859998
327 be like
>muh 6 rounds in a 5 round thiccness
i want 5 rounds of 327 in a super smol dao

>>63860762
Excuse me sir I'm representing him not you, I think I know what's best. Here's my vanilla lawyer gun to prove it.

>>63860532
It's big in Mexico.

>>63860824
So am i

>>63859157
>>63859276
More info on the P211, I can't help it but get excited despite knowing it's a sig
https://x.com/i/status/1935336480135848330
the gun will come(?, jews will probably charge you for it actually) a sight block to replace the compensator to make it legal for competition and "allegedly" has been in the works in some way for 17 years

recently bought a gp100 and was wondering what a good holster for it would be. i hear leather isnt good since it deforms over time?

>rxm getting new grip modules Doon from most of the companies that made it for SIG
>CC9 still doesn't have aftermarket grips
What the fuck was HK thinking. Just made a USP-style grip already

>>63860745
>thread is normal
>OMG THE OP
good riddance

>>63860886
>a few normal posts while the three trolls happen to be away
>i guess its fine now and forever!

>>63860922
Yeah?
How is that the OPs fault?
GTFO

>>63860882
kydex is more secure but leather is comfier since it isn't a fucking brick

I can't choose between an R8 or getting a TS12 ;_;

>>63861015
That's a nice revolver
Regards,
Revolverenjoyer

>>63859998
Damn that's a nice fucking bulldog. 327 is rare and expensive enough that I wouldn't buy it, but if I was rich then I would buy it. Honestly, if you don't mind getting all your ammo online, and paying extra, 327 is the practical way to go. If you wanna shoot a lot, I would prefer the 357 loaded with 38 +p

>>63860411
God tier weapon. Mortals who hate it unironically just don't have the basic INT requirement. Perfect for INT build, which is unfortunately extremely rare on /k/

>>63860882
Go to Wal Mart and buy a holster. It will werk fien and cost less, plus you can RETVRN if you dislike. Seriously they sell perfectly good ones at walmart

>>63860445
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
Anon done shot a crackhead

I promise i will behave in any serious thread that talks about actual combat stories

>>63861025
Thanks m8. Practically unfired before I got my hands on it. I'm on the fence about putting some vintage Pachmayr rubber grips on it to make it less unpleasant to shoot. If I get a SP101 I'm going to want to use it a lot, so I'm leaning towards a .357 one.

>>63860381
Neither, get a Glock

>>63860816
That's what it would take for me to get a .32 revolver. I'm already invested in .38/.357, and I'm already a revolver fan, so the extra 1 shot with .32 makes no difference to me. If I cared about capacity, I wouldn't be carrying a revolver.

>>63861065
The stock grips on the sp101 suck and hurt your hand to shoot hot ammo, if firing from a snubnose. Choose your grip wisely, because it also affects how you draw. If I was to shoot the gun a lot, I'd tape around the stock grip for extra comfiness, but the gun's kick, especially with snubnose 357 +p, would slip the gun out of a sweaty hand. On the other hand, you could opt for a lightweight grip, which worsens recoil but makes gun lighter.

>>63860445
>pistol in self defense
>giving it up
You made the mistake of calling for the useless police after the fact. The correct move would have been to tell the operator you need an ambulance and have the EMT's take care of the perpetrator's remains. Make the authorities get a warrant for your hardware instead of handing it over like a cuck

>>63860343
Nice, I’ve thought about building one, I have 5 P229’s, 1 P228 and a P224. Just put the Grey Guns strut and SRT in my nickel P229 and it’s smooth.

>>63861098
They won't come without the police after shootings

>>63861020
I agree.
Sincerely,
Revolverandshotgunenjoyer

>>63861145
Honestly you can just tell em you found a dead junkie with bullet holes, you don't know how it happened cuz you have ptsd. Or you can probably just say "this drug addict won't wake up, but he do got dat CRAQ on him, better get here fast it might get snatched right quick doe onG"

>>63860445
Hey it's me the lawyer again. Just reaching out again to say I will be withdrawing myself from the case. This guy >>63861189 is a better fit for you and he will be taking my place.

>>63861198
Also I am giving up on the whole lawyer thing and am kicking off my rap career.

>>63860445
Opposing counsel here I'm gonna need all your 4chan posts to prove you're a deranged lunatic and a racist.

>>63860886
Too much revolver discussion

>>63861253
>not having posted a disclaimer to posts which label all your posts as trolling, even ones that seem nonfictional
Also all the deranged lunagic posts are mine. I absolve thee, child, of thy sins, for I am sent by Christ.

>>63861263
Not fucking enough revolver discussion

>>63860761
Their very buttholes were on fire when they stormed out like some kind of union walkout or something, although those losers will return

>>63861269
Didn't work for Thad

>>63861145
Perhaps if there's useless bystanders. Otherwise, you just stick to the script
>9-1-1, what is the nature of your emergency?
"I need an ambulance at [address or major street corners] right away!"
>Sir, what happened?
"There's a man on the floor here and he isn't responsive."
Use the perpetrator's cellphone if he has one since you can make emergency calls without unlocking it
>>63861189
This!

>>63861280
Thad deserved hard. He's gonna go gay in prison

>>63861274
Nah, bulldog posters include two faggots, ppanon and the guy who spams interracial gay pornography (who is also an illegal immigrant)

>>63861308
THE TALKING DOG TOLD ME TO DO IT, HESAID HE WSS JESUS

>>63861253
>Opposing counsel
Good luck representing a corpse lol
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

It wasn't me
It was the DOG.
It WAS THE DOG I TELL YA
THE DOG TRICKED ME INTO DOING IT
A very, very bad dog

>>63861325
That's literally what's happening in this thread right now in terms of legal advice and it makes me very dissapointed in myself for thinking my fellow /k/tards wouldn't be this retarded and sheltered

>>63861320
You're right anon. Murder victims never get represented in court.

>>63861325
>the dog

Dis mane making MACHINE GUNZ with no propa loicenss?!?!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lowell-man-pleads-guilty-trafficking-170737660.html

>>63861330
Not in the legal sense
>Murder victim
Objection: the perpetrator is not to be referred to as a victim during a self defense trial

>>63861360
¡¡¡OBJECTION!!!
The murder victim was a good boy, he dindu nothing, he been clean off that rehab 4 months almodt 5, boutta get he life on track, he was doijg them programs n shit. Shit was like brand new Jayquan he not on dat dope like damn G. Cash paper money only accepted for reparations

>>63860884
I agree. I just want a mini USP with a paddle release.

>>63861329
Proving self defense is a meme

>>63861098
>>63861145
>calling the police or any authorities at all

>>63861360
>the perpetrator
Which is why I said the Plaintiff (the murder victim represnted by family or Daddy government) not the Defendant (our dear anon)

Handguns?

Dear Federales,
Any post that's a threats to society is mine

>>63861442
We all seen your garbage

>>63861442
Give us a breakdown of each, pros and cons, and a final verdict with price as a consideration. Thank you.

>>63861419
>Plaintiff
That's the terminology for civil cases like lawsuits, not jury trials lol
>>63861405
>EMT's
>authorities
???
>>63861396
Theories like those don't actually hold up in court, kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LkZnfRT03w
>>63861442
Uh, yeah– ID on this pistol?

>>63861450
Following Ben Stoeger’s example I cannot review a firearm until I have shot it 10000 times

>>63861457
OBJECTIOn,
The defendant thoughbt he wss PRIVILEGED when he MURDERED the victim. Checkm8

>>63861031
Sounds good, I'll pick one up this weekend

>>63861468
Overruled

>>63861469
Likely the guy you’re replying to has never even touched one

>>63861469
Likely the other guy responding to you is a low IQ jewnigger

>>63860117
My first handgun was a 92FS. I chose it because it looks cool but also I figured if police and military can shoot it halfway decent than so can I. I think it's a fantastic choice for a first handgun as a DA and manual safety really helped me get over the inherent fear of owning a gun. I mainly use it as a range toy now or let first timers shoot it.

>>63860117
PX4, i think i bought it like 6 years ago

Ben Stoeger just put out a video where he said he will never buy another Sig because they are run by assholes and it makes him feel dirty to own them.

>>63862821
He's right, y'know

>>63862828
They could probably squeeze one more ad on the page

>>63862821
Sig MCX rilfes, the German police bought 500 of them and 50 of them are completely unserviceable therefore they were replaced with the HK437, there’s a police shooting in the U.S. where two Sig MCXs have malfunctions and the officers switch to their pistols - the perpetrator was armed with a full auto UMP 45

>>63862832
>squeeze one more ad
>page crashes
>???
>profit

>>63862821
>Just bought in to the flux raider meme
Am I gonna be ok, bros? Probably gonna pick up a cheap trade in 320, expecting to have to go through it with a fine tooth comb though

Just watched the Ben vid and apparently if your organization stops using the 320 they send you a threatening letter. How is this company real?

>>63862966
Israel probably does the same thing lol. Trying to threaten police orgs for not using their shitty gun doesn't even surprise me at this point. Not buying another Sig product any time soon.

>>63862966
That’s pretty gangster desu

>>63863049
What else is “gangster” is people who originally claimed Sig P320s were unsafe suddenly recanting their statements and saying it’s perfectly safe and it was their fault they were injured.

>Classic Firearms reviewing the NIG Saar 211
>Kaya tells Sig shill his gun is incredible
>"Yeah contrary to what the internet says we test our guns rigorously."

Went to the range the other day and shot a few of my friend's guns while he shot mine. Here are my thoughts
>Ruger Mark IV Suppressed
Some of the most fun I've ever had at the range. Im tempted to get one of my own. It took a while to get used to the (lack of) recoil and *thump* of the action but after I adjusted it was pretty sweet shooting. I can definitely see this being a hit even with noguns and it makes me want to take the suppressorpill even sooner than I planned (though I'll probably wait to see what happens with Congress). For all the talk of unreliability with the cartridge, out of 500 RDS of match grade .22 I only experience two jams (FtFeeds). If you haven't shot a suppressed .22, I cannot advocate for it enough. Burt was right.
>Wilson Combat Beretta 92 G
Very similar to my own stock 92FS except a far nicer trigger. I wasn't impressed by the DA but the SA trigger was like glass with a fantastic break. I wouldn't recommend it to a newer shooter but I did enjoy it.
>IWI Masada Slim
A fine little compact. I didn't put enough rounds through it to get a good feel for it but I'm surprised I never see any discussion on it. I can definitely see it being a great carry piece

>>63862869
You'll be fine

>>63863143
>he's back spamming sig stuff again

>>63858872 (OP)
I'm wondering what else the hi point guys are gonna do with their handguns. Will they upgrade the .45 to the yeet cannon status or will they just keep it as is?

>>63864033
Why would you buy this ugly turd of a handgun

>>63864046
Because as a red blooded american with some tardism (autism that makes you dumb) I felt that it was my duty to own one in gods caliber.

>>63864033
There's a guy at my local range that is pretty popular among the staff. They say he's very polite and quite a good shooter. I was told by an RSO that he owns "every hi point ever made". I'm fucking impressed

>>63855853
Can someone who actually read confirm? I haven't read the bill. Also reposting
>>63855831

I want a fun gun just to shoot at the range now and then the Five Seven is hella tight in Counter Strike I've always been a big fan. What's it like irl? I've never owned a handgun.

Fuck my accursed eyes that need adjustable sights on everything

>>63864158
Paul Harrell has a good review of it, he says it’s the worst single action trigger he has ever felt

>>63864158
Judging from the way you posted, I'm assuming you have some knowledge/experience with firearms. If not, I would not recommend any gun in that caliber. I would recommend something in 9mm, a fullsize if it's just for a range toy and a compact if it's for carry depending on your size and weight.

If you just want to own a handgun and you want the Five-Seven cause it's cool, I completely understand. Just be aware that the ammo is going to be more expensive than some other handgun rounds so if you're dumping half a case a month, your wallet is going to feel it. As far as the gun itself, for a plinking gun feel free to pick ones that's "feels over reals".

should i switch to breakfree clp or slip2000 gun oil? i like the idea of a dedicated lubricant not the 8-in-1 shampoo type lube that is CLP. Plus, every video ive watched of someone cleaning their guns with CLP they douse the entire fucking gun in it like a mongoloid

>>63864405
>douse the entire fucking gun
BuT mOrE cLeAnEr = MoRe ClEaN

>>63864405
I've used CLP for damn near 15 years with no problem. It's my go to for that reason. If anything is left behnd no big deal. It lubes. I do like that M Pro 7 stuff for soaking baked on carbon, like within the barrel or an AR-15 bolt carrier.
For lube I exclusively use the Tetra oil and Grease. It's by far the slickest stuff I've seen, and makes all the actions on your guns silky smooth. The grease also works well for polishing up that shine on your finish.

>>63864205
>>63864242
Thanks. I will consider this.

>>63864019
Better than Berreta tranny garbage

Looking at a new 19. B&T-cut ACRO or COA 19?

Put some nice ironwood grips on Manurhin PPK that were too big to fit on the nazi PPK
A bit too wide but c'est la vie
>>63858681
It’s a robert heinlein quote, retard
>>63858938
Get a tomcat, the new ones seemingly fixed the cracking problem https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RWr0OCfLcvc&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

They also have a tip up barrel that doesn’t need racking and have moderate recoil .
The only reason my sister didn’t like was she found it too complex to operate. She’s flagged people at the range so your grandpa is probably more gun savy
>>63858957
The PPK has a stout recoil spring. It’s n not great for zero grip strength even if it can handle hotter rounds

>>63864405
>>63864437
Tangentially-related, how can I keep my guns from rusting while they're stored in hard/soft cases? I lube them up with coom lube but is there something else I can smear on them? Preferably non-toxic so my car doesn't get retarded

>>63864559
COA is a better cut, better manufactured, and smaller bezel

>>63864574
Lube has “gold guard” which solidifies into this protective wax on the gun

>>63864574
>how can I keep my guns from rusting while they're stored in hard/soft cases
You can't

>>63864577
The only thing that's keeping me hesitant is that I can no longer do forward rear sights. My Gen 3 has one of the early ATOM slides and I like the unconventional sight picture.

>>63864596
While forward sights are cool, iron sights don’t matter when you have a dot

>>63864596
>>63864559
COA for practical ACRO for sovl

>>63864574
It's the foam inside that encourages rust.
I used to store guns in cheap hard cases with the foam removed. Banging around against plastic doesn't hurt them.

>>63864549
No because it's posted by someone who can actually post a handgun

>>63864574
See >>63864585 GG is the strongest product on the market amd its even able to dry into a wax coat.

>>63864574
Oil and cloth bedding
No leather though, leather rusts

>>63864559
>>63864596
The COA is a good deal for law enforcement who wants a 'all-in-one' package but it's never going to be the meta because it's too proprietary to have any degree of customization which is what instagrammable gun culture now thrives on. The window is the exact same as the ACRO and the extra bezel is going to help buffer against drops and falls. We have no idea how rugged the COA is yet because it's only a few months old.

>>63864574
Oh sorry, i also store my Glock inside foam case. You put a light layer of GG on the gun and let it dry for like 1-2h to get rid of the solvent. Once thats done the foam wont suck up the film like it does with oils. But foam is still shit, at least add a tiny dry bag in there and replace them after a few weeks

>>63864640
>but it's never going to be the meta
Aimpoint and Glock are already the meta among serious users, of course fags who insist on being different will hate them

Thanks for all the advice, guys. I shoot pretty regularly so my guns haven't picked up rust yet and I'd like to keep it that way

>>63864640
The COA is probably 100% better than the ACcckro since it’s robotically made while the ACRO is hand assembled

>>63864655
Which is why it would be smart to produce a non-proprietary mounting version of the same optic. Most people just wanted a slimmed down mailbox anyway.

>>63864574
Just take them out once and a while and rub them down while watching TV and re-familiarizing yourself with their battery of arms, and use some snap caps to practice trigger control.
I can't be the only one who does this almost every week, right?

I bought a Sig P365 for $500. Do I seriously have to pay $300 for a red dot? Is there are cheaper option that compares?

>>63864717
Stop being poor.

>>63864717
You can get those cheaper, but yeah. That’s how it works, the big red dot lobby pushes out cheap red dot capable guns to force unknowing consumers to be forced to buy expensive red dots

>>63864717
>>63864726
Check gun deals, you can get 407K red dots for under 200

You don’t want solar energy shit, it’s useless and costs more for no reason.

>>63864717
https://gun.deals/product/sig-sauer-opmod-romeozero-reflex-red-dot-sight-99
Found this on gun dot deals $102.08 after you use a code but it is used

>>63864737
That appears to be the wrong footprint (rms, not k).

>>63864736
Thanks I will look around.

>>63862821
Ways lil benny can get a Sig
a) buy
b) steal
c) find a lost one
d) receive one from any entity other than the Sig shooting team for free or a reduced price

Ways lil benny can NOT and will NEVER get a Sig
a) free from Sig

>>63864751
“lil benny” reminds me of those Ron Perlman posts “hey lil donny I just pissed my own pants! How does that make you feel”

Lil Benny, I just tanked our entire brand for no reason. I just made our PR reps lie about the safety of the P320 right to widows’ faces. How does that make you feel?

>>63861023
>>63858415
Thank you king
If you’re the one who just bought a bulldog btw stick these on, they drop felt recoil greatly https://charterfirearms.com/products/grips-combat-full-rubber?variant=31804394176646

>>63864789
Kill yourself faggot

>>63864767
But lil Benny in your context does not make sense

>>63864797
Ron Cohen instead of Ron Perlman

>>63864789
>peace dollar
Based silver enjoyer.

>>63864807
Man you just suck

>>63864797
People who only talk about one thing never make sense after a while

>>63864826
basedpilled faggot enabler

>>63864717
>do I seriously have to pay $300 for a red dot
literally on the front page of gun.deals https://gun.deals/product/holosun-3moa-shake-awake-red-dot-pistol-sight-16999-free-shipping-0

>>63864853
Huh?

>>63864868
Doesn't fit the P365 optic ready. Needs to be 407k/507k or whatever else that fits it.

>>63864884
>>63864717
Pic related

>>63864792

>>63864900
Oh my bad man sorry

Anyone know if it's feasible to get an old Beretta 84's slide cut for a dovetail front sight? Want to put a taller sight for suppressor use, but is there enough material in the slide for it?

>>63864884
>>63864900
I did a recheck and the romeozero optics will fit on the p365 via direct mount

>>63865086
Romeo Zero are poverty optics, Zero stands for Zero money. It’s an entirely polymer optic, the lens is polymer and the frame is polymer. The Pro has a glass lens and they make a steel shroud attachment.

The 407K is better.

>>63864158
No recoil makes it easy to suprise my friends with shots in the same place, and its stylish. I have autism and only like 80s/90s guns.

lmao this thread actually has a sig ahill

>>63865170
Where?

>>63860320
>I don't want a P365 because of the P320 thing
The internals are entirely different though. Is there any reason to believe the P365 has the same issue as the P320?

The only claim I've seen of a problem with the P365 is this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei90kVQhjm8

who says he pulls the trigger and it doesn't go off ...then when he shakes it (while still pulling the trigger) it does go off. That's a completely different issue than an uncommanded discharge. Also, I haven't seen this claim repeated - the P320 issue has been repeated a lot.

>>63865232
NTA but I simply wouldn't trust any Sig product anymore.

>>63865236
>NTA
are you from reddit?

>>63865240
NTA = not that anon since this board doesn't have IDs
Way to out yourself as a newfag

Post magnums

>>63865232
Ignore the guy, he acts like a mom calling anything that plays games an NES or an xbox

>>63858938
ruger LCR in 22lr & get a full sized hogue grip
super lightweight, no fucking around with reloads or racking the slide and its 8 shots
if he cant reliably rack a slide and he can only handle 22lr, you want a revolver
rimfire has a decently high chance of not going off compared to centerfire and if he gets a dud round when he has to use it, he just has to keep pulling the trigger and it moves to the next round
the LCR is also about the lightest revolver out there thats reliable
they have one in 327 HR magnum too thats 6 shots and i would recommend that if he can handle it,you know him better than any of us though and you will have to make the call on caliber

>>63865232
>The only claim I've seen of a problem with the P365 is this guy
There are reports of problems if you look for them but that could be true of many guns. I know the p365 has a few problems like broken stroke tips and rapid barrel coating wear. Personally I have nothing against the p365 and would even argue it's probably a fantastic firearm but it's not even in my top 50 of ones I would buy. And I don't blame someone for losing faith in Sig ENTIRELY due to the p320 debacle

>>63865236
>I simply wouldn't trust any Sig product anymore.
Yeah, they've lost name-based trust for sure. But if they get a gun right, and it proves itself, then I'll buy that one firearm.

The P320 bullshit doesn't take away from the legendary status of the P226/P229 for example.

>>63865332
That's all fair. I mostly ask because I bought one a few months ago and am finding that I really like it. I looked at a lot of similar size carry guns, but the P365xl was the one that I liked. Hopefully I don't shoot my dick off.

On the topic of Sig, the shilling is just absolutely out of control with the new 211. They're paying $250K to have people shill it and in every video they say Sigs are the most tested guns in the world "despite what the internet says" and shills are saying it shoots better than Staccato, is 6x more reliable than Staccatos... this is wild shit.

>>63865356
I was posting the P211 earlier since I'm genuinely interested in it despite my hatred of Sig as a company.

>>63865360
Didn't MIMber make a 2011? That looks more interesting than the Sig because it doesn't have a gay Sig optics cut and has an external extractor.

>>63865255
checked and nice

>>63865368
they did but it's just a 2011, I'm waiting see if they'll make a 10mm or a .45 one shows up used.

I hate the styling, it's ugly. I "could" get a new slide but that introduces problems

>>63865255
I want one of these, or a S&W 44 magnum mountain gun.

>>63865380
Yeah, visually it makes me think of "gaming" PC chairs, mice with LEDs, and Monster Energy. But that is the style of the times.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/springfield-emissary-1911-9mm-pistol-ss-9rd-4-2-px9217l.html

What's the catch?

>>63865402
1) Springfield
2) Square trigger guard that will limit holster compatibility
3) Springfield

>>63861334
>>63861329
Kek

How long does it take Sig customer service to respond with a message on their website? I got a bad mag that came with my gun. Rounds are getting stuck.

>>63865255
What's the atomic logo thing?

>>63865452
S&W marks their “scandium” alloy frames with it. I don’t know what the alloy is but it’s for making the gun very light weight and abusive to shoot.

>>63860637
>>63860686
nice, I just picked one up today. Pictures don't do justice how comically small it is.

>>63865463
cool thanks

if a gun has been kicked out of 109 police departments, is it the cops fault?

>>63865660
They deleted, does anyone have the original image/post?
>>63865381
Borzoi

>>63865660
Their own fault for not carrying a rubber round in the chamber. Speds gonna sped.

>why does a gun require a rubber in the chamber for safety
That you can ask Sig about cuz idk

>>63865360
>shilling for Sig
Why do you do it

>>63864568
>>63865667
What do you think of this animation

>>63864621
Yes because you don't know if that piece of trash is a BB gun, idiot

Someone really does need to contact Beretta and tell them there's weirdo coomer ruining their public image.

>>63865725
I'm feelin tired, b0ss

>>63865702
>PPK

>>63865332
I've never had faith in SIG to begin with. The issue is how they reacted. It's fine to build a few trash guns, it's not fine to react like it's no big deal until your hand is forced. They could have done a GM style recall, and it would have been fine. They could have done buybacks, but no. Probably would have been cheaper, but who knows. Anyway, correcting their mistakes is not the name of their game. Outsourcing sure is, though.

>>63865255
I almost bought one of these last week but I decided not to because of the hillary hole. I just can't stand them.

I'm actually not the other guy in here posting beretta gore, but anons, am I the only one who thinks the rearview/sight picture of the M9 is fucking atrocious?

>>63865774
You can swap your sights, but not your sexuality, fgt

>>63865231
It's PX4troon. By shilling so hard against Sig, xe makes Sig look good, based on repulsive association.

>>63865744
So I looked up "PP heel magazine" in Google images and became aware of the Sig P230's existence
>>63865774
The "snowman" sight does look shitty, what were they thinking back in 1985?

>>63864826
I see you are a man of culture
>>63865255
I use a light Special. This size gun it gives me better control and less recoil than a .357 Magnum with wadcutters.
>>63865702
Actually that’s dead on except that the safety lever/decocker isn’t visible; there’s a irl example of playing with the lever like that here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NpLPWztJA6I

Did you make it? It looks like one of the new threaded PPK/S
>>63865774
I mistook it for a nuppk sights
It’s really that fucking tiny

>>63865825
Well that’s fucking weird, he manipulates it just like a PPK decocker in the vid and it works just like it.

P230 havers, does your gun work the same way?

>>63865833
Meow xD

>>63865360
>>63865348
Unpopular opinion: the p230 would have been a much better duty gun than the 320 since it’s at least safe to carry chambered and most soldiers will use a rifle anyways

>>63865833
>looks like one of the new threaded PPK/S
That must've been the inspiration for the P230
>Did you make it?
Nah, I'm not an animator. I merely captured the video with OBS, snipped it in Microsoft Photos and encoded an MP4 file using FFmpeg before being reminded of you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBpULRJRvTo
>>63865842
>he
>>63865866
No 9x19 model of the P230 exists, so the military wouldn't have been able to feed it

>>63865912
>>63865702
fuck off to /ak/ with this troonshit

>>63865912
<FFmpreg

>>63865941
Makarov 9x18

>>63865954
go back faggot
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63585539/#63585539

>>63865951
wew lad
>>63865958
looks like you were in that thread judging by the BBC spam

>>63865976
post a handgun you own

>>63865912
Probably, PP series spawned half a dozen illegitimate children like the CZ-50 and Makarov. STALKER fans told me my PPK looks like a mini Makarov.

The family is actually a great choice for a car gun since they’re so safe so nice touch. Decocking and taking off safety is spot on in the animation.
>he
It had pulp fiction vibes and I project and assume people with hand sizes roughly similar to mine are male
> 9x19
It’s a blowback, anything above 9x18 is impractical. It doesn’t matter since the army fielded 380 using 1908s in ww2.
The 320 somehow makes the Makarov look good btw.

After buying a bunch of hipster hammer guns (including 1 revolver) and carrying my da/sa guns for the better part of 5 years, i caved and bought an m&p 2.0 compact in 9mm

>>63866055
traitor

>>63865941
It’s a skillfully rendered DA/SA gun so fair game
>>63865954
I genuinely want to get a PM but don’t want to overpay
What’s the cheapest way to one?>>63865958
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cirDXY3CkSk

>>63866047
I can't wait until you blow your brains out due your mental illness

>>63865774
I don't think it's worse than any other standard three dot sight, but I threw an RDS on mine.

>Happy Pride Month, /hg/! :D

>>63865912
Why in the world would you press check that way? You're moving your hand near the muzzle, and you are not utilizing the serrations on the back of the gun that are made for that? Retardo.

>>63865232
>The internals are entirely different though
I'm the anon you replied to. That's not the point. I'm mad at how Sig handled it and will never buy another. I have a couple of classics but that's all I'll have.

>>63865702
sub garrysmod tier quality. Who cares that the gun works right when the whole scene looks terrible.

>>63866810
>I'm mad at how Sig handled it
That's reasonable, and I agree.

My deal is, I tried a half dozen small firearms and really only liked two. One of them was an eight-round single stack; the other was the P365 x/xl (12 rounds)

I'll join you in disliking the company, and jump ship when I find another gun I like - but in the meantime I want to have confidence that this firearm is safe to carry.

Both of mine have manual safeties. I'm pretty sure they're okay.

>>63865994
Why?

>>63866047
>STALKER fans told me my PPK looks like a mini Makarov
Reminds me of that Fallout 3 player who mistook a PPSh-41 for a shotgun on Facebook
>great choice for a car gun
Too limited in capacity, you need stagger magazines or better if a swarm of race rioters assault you at an intersection
>hand sizes roughly similar to mine
But the finger nails look manicured
>army fielded 380 using 1908s
That was before NATO and every member's agreement to the ammunition pool

>>63866061
>cheapest way to one?
>post surplus-years
That's the million dollar question

>>63866264
Agreed, it's tacticool bullshit. Pressing your trigger finger on the slide and using the serrations with support hand to displace it slightly would make more sense

>>63866821
In this racket, you can get away with less-than-stellar animation if the character models look sex enough

>>63858938
ruger mk4 22 with a ring on the back of the bolt so he can just stil a finger in there and use the other hand to push the gun foward to charge and unload. the trigger will be very light and short unlike a revolver.

>>63865741
relatable

>>63862966
Anyone know what the letter says? Can't believe how far sig has fallen

>>63864751
>>63864767
>>63864807
Kek

>>63867010
Most of the "sex" models these days are just AIslop corporate marketing ploys. Theres more honor amongst pornographers.

>>63867183
Many such cases!

>>63867456
>models these days are just AIslop corporate marketing
Sad!

>>63865255
k

>>63867686
>walther WIMP
seriously?

>>63867183
>been made since the mid 80s
>this happens
What is the excuse, Beretta Bros?

>>63867798
I've heard it's an issue with the brown coating affecting part clearance

>>63867814
Hmm... I only have just under 500 rounds through my M9-A4, and only had a failure to extract once with some weak 115gr ammo that did the same in other 9mm handguns. I even run mine suppressed no problem.

If it's a coating problem, surely appropriate lube and breaking in solves the problem?

I found a second hand SIG 1911 target elite at a decent price in 9mm (for my country), how is that gun? I want a full metal handgun and 9mm is the sweet spot for ammo price.

I carry a Shadow Systems MR918 right now (built it myself, used to work there) but it doesn't scratch the tism. I have a Gen 1 Archon type B. Can anyone give a good reason as to why I shouldn't carry it primarily? Yes it does the same thing as the Shadow, but it's different and I'm retarded, so cooler.

>>63867985
just carry a glock, snowflake

>>63867995
I essentially do, all the SS parts were swapped with stock glock, sans the trigger shoe, TTI connector, and barrel. Let me be autistic

>>63868051
>SS parts were swapped with stock glock
why?

>>63867893
If you don't have issues, I wouldn't worry about your specific gun. After a break-in period it should be even more of a non-issue

>>63867741
>t. ground squirrel

>>63867985
Become the ultimate hipster and carry a Caracal Enhanced F or that goofy ass Steyr Bubits gun

I love looking through PSA customer review photos so damn much.

>>63867906
They're pretty good

>>63858938
i have a suggestion
https://www.ruger.com/products/1022Compact/specSheets/31114.html
with a 25 round magazine, some kind of optic, and a sling

the gun will basically rest on his hands

>>63868127
this is exactly why companies like Sig think they can get away with selling the P320, btw
they know (rightfully) that 98% of owners shoot a fucking hundred rounds though a gun and then put it in a drawer for decades

>look up reviews of high capacity 380 magazines
>all black people
>drum magazines for micro pocket pistols
>every single person on youtube with one is black
>all have zero trigger discipline and are being very reckless
>if firing they just spam one handed, holding the phone in their off hand, spraying everywhere

>>63868200
This is why .380 is cringe, only for blacks and women

>>63868095
Had a G19 hanging around that wasn't being used. The stock shadow parts had about 25k rounds on them, so the glock got scavenged and parts were polished. They both do the same thing

hypothetically, if i wanted a 22lr DA/SA revolver for target shooting, what are my options? should i be worried about mechanical accuracy at all 25/50y if i pick up an old model 17? or should i just pick up a used standard king cobra target 22/gp100/sw 617 and call it a day. has to be DA because i have autism

test

>>63868293
still a hoe tho

>>63868207
>>63868200
Why? Is it because they think .380 is bigger than 9mm because bigger number?

>>63868171
Can we not talk about how that's literally PSA in a nutshell? They sell crap because people who buy their shit don't shoot it but whatever people just fucking ignore that.

>>63859669
>>63860182
>>63860413
>>63860420
>>63864568
>>63865296
>>63867038
>>63868142
thank you for suggestions anons, i will look at all of them

>>63860515
he's in his late 80s now

I wanna make a thread, would that be okay?

>>63868465
I'll allow it

>>63868465
Are you a true /hg/ patriot? /hg/ is not a recreational zone, it’s a people. It’s clear when aliens show up here and don’t fit it or even attempt to assimilate

>>63867985
I literally switch between a 1911 and PX4 for carry daily, do whatever you want as long as you think the gun is reliable.

>>63868349
I really don't know.

you can get a Taurus 9mm for $200, 12 round mags. the cheapest not hipoint

you can sometimes get a Ruger LCP for $150, but they usually go for over $200 anyway, and it's a 6 round mag. an LCP max is $250 with a 10 round mag.

380 ammo also costs more than 9mm

wait why the fuck do they love 389 so much?

>>63868569
Niglore about how .380s are concealable and easy to shoot, like how some prefer revolvers since it leaves no cases despite shell casings not actually mattering that much.

>>63868509
I've made a couple threads before

>>63868914
>>63868914
>>63868914
>>63868914
Fucked up a tiny bit so my bad

>>63868901
>>63868927
Patriot

>>63867010
I like the fudd approach of pulling the slide from the back but I have a chambering indicator and window on the PPK so unless I’m using one of my colts it’s irrelevant
>mistook a PPSh-41 for a shotgun on Facebook
PPK, especially with red Bakelite looks kinda like a pocket sized PM ngl
I really want a PPK but I also want a Remington model 8 or 81 and idk what to get
>manicured
People said my hands sometimes look manicured. But they’re full of scars and I’ve gotten better at keeping nice and short
>ammunition pool
Abandoning 45/380 for 9 was a mistake
They should just issue everyone not in combat roles a 230 or some analogue and those in combat roles a USP.

>>63869283
>chambering indicator and window
If you trust your life to that, then sure
>really want a PPK
I thought you already had a stainless one with ivory grips
>Abandoning 45/380 for 9 was a mistake
You have SMG's in the same ammo pool and neither of those gain much from longer barrels
>combat roles a USP
Military pistols in general are decorative in 2025 lol

I fucking hate the AntiMohammed

Antichrist hating don't stop

>>63868509
>gatekeeping /k/ the dumbest board on all of 4chan
This poster is unironically a tranny