Since Iran cannot produce its own nuclear weapons, could Russia donate them to Iran? Or perhaps Iran could produce 100,000 Shahed drones for Russia in exchange of nukes and a nuclear submarine?

Russia has a lot more to lose by donating nukes that might not even work to a country no one likes.

>>63879287 (OP)
Russia has enough legitimacy problems without handing doomsday devices to terrorists.

>>63879287 (OP)
That's the absolute stupidest thing Russia could do right now...which means the proposal is going to Putin as I type this.
If it did happen, enjoy that precedent and seeing a Western country give out those weapons to Ukraine and Taiwan.

>>63879287 (OP)
>perhaps
and perhaps I shall turn back the tides with a wave of my hand before I fly off to space on a winged marshmallow

Will this finally make the Tango Man dislike Poo?

>>63879287 (OP)
That is quite literally the most retarded thing Russia could do.

>>63879287 (OP)
The problem is, if Iran had nukes then they would use them.
And when they use them, they now turn the whole thing from a irrelevant Middle East shit flinging competition into a world-wide military gangbang with Iran being the poor little brown girl caught at the middle. Except then an investigation will be done on how Iran went from barely possibly managing to build a primitive device all the way to having a semi-modern weaponized warhead overnight. And that will point to Russia. Which means Russia will be the poor little Asian girl joining her in the gang rape.

>>63879287 (OP)
>could Russia donate them to Iran?

>>63879287 (OP)
>could Russia donate them to Iran?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuIPYfO5-qE

>>63879287 (OP)
China would instantly throw a wrench in those plans, many countries are against nuclear proliferation but China is imo the most adverse to this because it would instantly mean it has 3 more nuclear armed countries around it.
And they won't need to have them gifted by someone because I'm willing to bet that Japan, Taiwan and worst Korea already have plans prepared to build them in a matter of months if not less

>>63879333
What exactly is going on in this?

>>63879287 (OP)
Keep dreaming, Senator Bloodfeast.

>>63879287 (OP)
Don't be silly, that would be highly unresponsable.
However, mistakes happen.
Some "metal parts" accidentally shipped to the wrong place and lost, and some "documents" get missplaced.
Imagine IKEA, but with russian instructions, and the allen key glows in the dark.

>>63879958
>Imagine IKEA, but with russian instructions
So impossible to assemble.

>>63879287 (OP)
>could Russia donate them to Iran?
Maybe, if russia wanted Baltics to also get nukes donated to them.
If you mean some "secret" deal then no, any fissile material basically has a fingerprint where it was created, so everyone would immediately know that it was russian nukes.

>>63879287 (OP)
You think Russia, who are in their own shit, are going to risk wasting some of the few precious nukes they have left which might still work, for fucking IRAN?

>>63879319
This, it's not a move they want to make, because they know what the counter move is.

>>63879332
Colorful, but clear.

>>63879325
>tango
Weak and lame and gay. There are so much better ones out there like
>two weeks taco
or
>agent orange

>>63881328
I think all Putin has to do to get Trump to pussy out and go back to being his bitch is imply that Russia gave them a nuke. Not even prove it, just hint at it to him on the phone, and Trump will tuck his tail between his legs and run to his bunker.

>>63881370
Why exactly do you imagine that to be the case?

>>63879287 (OP)
>1979
>Israel: South Africa, bro, hold my nukes for me. Make sure they work. Send me half back.
>South Africa: got ya bruhv.
>USA: I didn't see nothin'.

>>63879319
>That's the absolute stupidest thing Russia could do right now
So you're saying there's a chance?

>>63879958
>Imagine IKEA, but with russian instructions
"Haпиcaнo жe в инcтpyкции — пepeд cбopкoй дeтaли oбpaбoтaть нaпильникoм."

>>63879958
>>63879969
>пepeд cбopкoй дeтaли oбpaбoтaть нaпильникoм

>>63879958
>Imagine IKEA, but with russian instructions
I think my translator's broken. It keeps telling me how to kill myself with the various tools I need. I didn't know you could do that with a hammer.

>>63880023
If it were detonated in Iran as a "test", can it still be detected?

>>63879287 (OP)
Even KJU isn't this stupid. The other nuclear powers would condemn him and try to stop him.

>>63881454
A chance? It's already guaranteed. The only real question is when we can expect them to do it. My prediction is directly after the current spat between them and israel is over.

>>63879325

No

>>63879287 (OP)
no nuclear power is interested in expanding the club, there is very little to gain

>>63879287 (OP)
Russia and China are not interested in a nuclear Iran, if anything its the opposite of their interest since in the long run they also lose power over Iran along with it encouraging other smaller nations they have interest in to develop their own nuke program (good luck convinging Taiwan to not have nukes while also giving Iran nukes)

>>63882297
Yeah, Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan will arm up if they have to. Historically they all decided against it, but Taiwan and SK can both build nukes on their own and Japan can presumably as well.

>>63879319

>>63882345
>BRICS
L
M
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>BRICS

>>63882345
I wish a zigger would.

>>63879319
Ukraine is easier to argue since Clinton took nukes from them they already had.

>>63882345
give me a source that isn't anonymous retards from the third world on twitter

>>63879325
Yes but then he'll forget about it by next week. He's more erratic than Sleepy Joe.

>>63882598

It's on KyivPost's top page. As usual, Russia threatens to do the thing that is more retarded than the most retarded thing /k/ could imagine.

Doing such a thing, of course, would give America the greenlight to give nukes to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Ukraine, the Philippines, Estonia, etc.

>>63882924
Well its Mededev so maybe its not a case of Russia's/USSR's bullshit "escalate to desescalate" garbage. I could see them stationing nukes in Iran to re-create the Cuban Missile Crisis though.

>>63879332
>The problem is, if Iran had nukes then they would use them.

And get obliterated in return.

No, i don't think they will.

>>63883228
No, they really are that retarded.

>>63882924
I guess everyone of those save the Philippines could quickly build them without America.

>>63882345
>Medvedev

Why Russia?

Iran can just pay Pakistan for their nukes

No one will bomb Pakistan for building more nukes

>>63883642
His talents were really wasted on Russian politics, the man was born to be a basement dwelling HOI4 modder.

>>63879319
we’ve put nukes on Taiwan before lol

>>63883782
India might, if they thought those were intented for them

>>63883228
Martyrdom culture, anon.

>>63879287 (OP)
>could Russia donate them
Russia doesnt have working nukes

Medyedev: A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their own nuclear warheads

WTF. Are they posturing to stop attacks against Iran? Giving Iran nukes would make Russia culpable for anything Iran does with them.

>>63883940
Medvedev's whole job is to say retarded things >>63883642

>>63883642
>what COULD happen in 2023
hey, he never said that it would

>>63883228
if they end up nuking Israel, that's fine, isn't it? It's one way to resolve the tension of a rogue nuclear state.

>>63879287 (OP)
>selling nuclear weapons to terrorists
That's how you get invaded.

>>63883940
>>63882345
Medvedev is there to be the retarded extremist voice so Putin looks like a careful moderate.

>>63884029
The only reason he even got to take a turn warming Putin's seat is because he's head monke's little bitchboy and not an actual threat to his power.

>>63884032
You can see Luka just lose the will to live over the years

>>63884041
He slowly realising Putin won't ever make him Colonel.

If I had a nuke I'd donate it to Iran and offer to ride it into telaviv wearing a cowboy hat. Fuck isreal.

And at this talk about Iranian development, it's just not realistic. If Iran, isreal, Pakistan, whoever has warheads, they were probably donated, and effectively sanctioned. And after the Iraq Iran war, if not through soviet stock, Iran probably acquired such a weapon before they even had the capacity to launch it.

>>63879325
>>63881355
His name is Zion Don, newfriends

>>63884058
>if only you knew how bad the potato harvest will be this year

>>63879310
So you opine that it does get worse?

>>63882924
>Doing such a thing, of course, would give America the greenlight to give nukes to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Ukraine, the Philippines, Estonia, etc.

The US would never do that.

>>63879287 (OP)
Do you want the US to enter the Ukraine war and end it? That's how you get that to happen.

>>63879319
>enjoy that precedent
the precedent was already set by the US transfer of nuclear weapons to Israel

>>63885433
The US didn't. Israel jointly developed them with South Africa.

Retarded brown stain.

>>63884253
>Israeli nukes are sanctioned.

Lol. Lmao even. There would obviously be consequences to using them, but they are absolutely under direct control of Israel. The theft of the nuclear materiel for them is probably the worst embarrassment of the US security apparatus.

>>63885449
>Israel jointly developed them with South Africa.
No, they actually jointly developed them with France. Israeli nuclear scientists had unrestricted access to Gerboise Bleue and all the data collected there. Similarly, Israel made covert nuclear threats prior to the Vela event. It is likely that the Vela even was the first nuclear test they conducted themselves, but the CIA estimates that they had at least 10 to 20 nukes as early as the mid-60s.

>>63879287 (OP)
a nuclear armed iran is the last thing russia wants

>>63882924
>>63882598
It's Medvedev, he's controlled opposition like a large part of the Duma.
Their jobs are to catch the attention of different fringes in the Russian populace (in this case the ultranationalist hardliners) to make them feel represented, and at the same time their schizo proposals are meant to make 'normal' Russians feel like Putin's clique is the voice of reason for talking these tards down.

Russia offered to take Uranium out of Iran and Pakistan practically shat their pants when there were rumors of them aiding Iran. The Asian nuclear powers have no reason to aid Iran.

>>63885520
>theft
How is it buying it from Argentina and exchanging it for technical help with South Africa, a "theft"?

>>63885675
Where do the Jews get their simulation data if Vela is supposedly the only Israeli nuclear test? The entire reason we can do everything through computational and physical simulations instead of actual detonations is because we tested a metric shitload of different flavors of nuclear weapons prior to the test bans. If they aren't testing them, then someone is obviously providing them vital design and hydrodynamic simulation data. Do they do fusion experiments in Israel or is some Jewniversity part ITER or some US facility?

>>63886213
France, they got all of the data from Gerboise Bleue and likely subsequent tests.

>>63882598
Okay. Happy now?

>>63882345
Replying to this in the vain hope people will read my reply.

This is ridiculous. Iran has already about as many nukes as Israel (though they lost many of them in the war esp. in Fordow). The President Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putin of the Russian Federation is a responsible actor and won't provide any nuclear technology to Iran. I also know that the President Donald John Trump of the United States of America is also a responsible actor and is happy to know that in Fordow many nuclear-capable missiles and Zulfiqar missiles (capable of carrying tritium-boosted warheads as well as chemical warheads) have been destroyed there.

>>63885792
The problem is that Medvedev isn't opposition.

>>63886227
That's actually really good trumpposting goddamn. I still miss before when he wasn't a senile old man and would stick to twitter though

>>63879287 (OP)
Nothing is gonna happen.

Thank You for your Attention to This Matter!!!

>>63887773
On the surface he is. He always proposes far more drastic measures than the actual admin.
Back in his presidential days he served the role of a more liberal alternative to Putin.
Russian politics is one big play. You're not let on the stage unless you have your script and everyone is sure you can follow it.

>>63881355
CHEETO BENITO.
FASCIST DORITO.
MANGO MUSSOLINI.
BIG. ORANGE. MEANIE!

>>63889242
lol

>>63889242
Cheeto Benito has a nice ring to it, not gonna lie.

>>63888253
Honestly this might be my favorite trumppost yet.
Congratulations to everyone!!!!

>>63884369
>>if only you knew how bad the potato harvest will be this year
There's legit unrest in Belarus due to a lack of potatoes this year, due to a lower harvest and Russia sweeping the market clean causing the prices to explode
It's so bad it recently forced Luka to drop the embargo's he imposed on EU countries to fix the lack of potatoes, onion, cabbage etc

>>63893501
>It's so bad it recently forced Luka to drop the embargo's he imposed on EU countries to fix the lack of potatoes, onion, cabbage etc

and let me guess, the west cucked out and actually sent them food?

fucking starve the fucks, embargo them, they have no sea access and russia won't give them any food either. THAT's how you kick off revolutions. Fucking glowies do your job properly

>>63893519
eh, Lukas embargo's were always more posturing than real shit, and he lifted them before when they lacked something
This time it's different though, worst harvest in a decade or so coupled with very high prices in Russia means that only the absolute dregs (green, rotten etc) stayed in Belarus so even importing won't fix it
Luka already tried to fix the situation by imposing fines on sellers that lack potatoes kek, but it won't fool anyone because people remember he was the one advocating the exports to Russia
>There is conspiracy theory in Russia that claims potatoes were introduced in Europe to turn people into obedient slaves because they erase long term memory (also making them forget some cataclysmic events/nuclear wars two hundreds years ago).
>Also tomatoes, bell pepper, aubergine are literally poison and we should return to turnip.
>Coincidentally it first appeared when Russia was having problems importing potatoes a few years ago
I wonder if Belarus will try to fix their situation by spreading similar bullshit

>>63893826
It would be hilarious to me if EU states just said "Naw, you made your bed now lie in it" and refused to sell him shit.

>>63893832
inb4 potatoes for bases

>>63879287 (OP)
>Could
Yes
>Would
No

>>63893826
Live by the potato, die by the potato.

>>63893854
I would be okay with that

>>63893826
>give me the bloody potatoes, Luka, or you're dead
>>"give me the bloody potatoes Luka or you're dead... Colonel!"

>>63893836
I can't think of any land in Belarus anyone in the EU would want, unless by bases you mean "you sever ties with and expel russian forces from your soil, we give you potat" which Luka would never do because with russia propping him up he'd get couped.

>>63893854
>Live by the potato, die by the potato.
Luka legit started his career as a state farm director so his rule ending by potato would be pretty funny ngl

>>63896125
>it's not just a meme
LMAO!

>>63883642
Its like his career is writing erotic contemporary geopolitical fiction

>>63896125
>Irish not consuming more potatos

>>63893826
>There is conspiracy theory in Russia that claims potatoes were introduced in Europe to turn people into obedient slaves because they erase long term memory (also making them forget some cataclysmic events/nuclear wars two hundreds years ago).
???

>>63896685
Yeah, it claims that potatoes were developed by the Incas as slave food to turn them obedient because the phytic acid in them damages your log term memory
Also tomatoes, aubergines etc are literally poison due to solanine but that might be because no one explained to russians that you shouldn't eat the leaves of nightshades kek
Obviously russians recognized potatoes as satanic instantly but were forced to plant them by Peter the Great which was actually replaced by the pirate Morgan because there's nor russian conspiracy theory without the "perfidious Albion TM"
Another funny part was that they claim that he also brought alcohol to russia because it clearly was a nation of teetotallers before his reign

>>63879689
fr

>>63894171
>"you sever ties with and expel russian forces from your soil, we give you potat" which Luka would never do because with russia propping him up he'd get couped.
nta, but Luka is just one factor now, and what was unthinkable just a few years ago due to potato emperor having Kremlins backing might become plausible soon.
People saw that Putin isn't a 200IQ gigabrain when he stuck his dick in the Ukrainian hornets nest, and even more importantly, doesn't have much forces to spare when he left Armenia out to dry.
Would he decide to join the smo now he would get coup'd instantly

>>63879689
https://youtu.be/FsjkfzOvsGQ?si=kQ8wOAK1ay0PA1yx

>>63893519
What you mean "cucking out"? There was money to be made so they made it. Welcome to the wonderful liberal democratic West, who cares about fighting hostile enemies when you can always just make money???? Line must go up!! I gotta pay the vacation for my ex-wife and the kids!

>>63897099
Please enlighten us with more batshit conspiracy thero... I mean, the REAL history "they" don't want us to know.

>>63903983
>Please enlighten us with more batshit conspiracy thero... I mean, the REAL history "they" don't want us to know.
All of history before the tenth century AD is a forgery by the catholic clergy and the filthy west in general to make them look much older and important than Russia (yes, Iliad, Odyssey, clearly written by benedictine monks kek) and to pull away attention from the Russian Horde empire of which scytians, goths or huns were only minor parts of
Ancient Rome, Troy or Jerusalem didn't actually exist and were founded much later, all the historic events ascribed to them happened in Constantinople and yeah, historic Jesus was actually born on Crimea
Now, you might think this is some fringe barely known schizo-babble, but supposedly every third russian or so looks fondly on Fomenko's New Chronology so it's certainly not unknown among the general populace kek
Also i find it funny that even among similar conspiracy theories like Phantom Time or Rohl's chronology the russian one is the one that goes balls to the wall turbo schizo because the others usually feature just a few missing centuries or early egyptian dynasties

The potato theory is one my favorite ones because it kinda feels like it was born during a alcoholic bender of a uncle that believes Fomenko's chronology with a wine aunt that jumped on every meme diet fad that existed
There's only a few things marring it, the suspicious timing that coincides with potato shortages in russia, and the random potshots at the dutch that make no sense except for them being salty about the MH17 investigation, making it look not 100% organic, contrary to the potatoes it is about kek

>>63905444
Thank you, more useless information that will be stored in my brain. BTW digit confirmed

I think Iran probably already has a bunch of nukes ready to go, otherwise why would Israel agree to a ceasefire after buttfucking the sandies from the air for a week straight