Thread 63969460

Keeping in mind the POTUS is a big idea man who can't be bothered by little detail or anything factual
What is driving this sudden wish for a F55?
https://breakingdefense.com/2025/05/f55-f22-f47-trump-wants-a-twin-engined-f35-experts-say-its-not-feasible/
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/twin_engine_f_35_called_f_55_trumps_fantasy_or_a_real_modernization_plan-14531.html

Did someone infect the POTUS with the idea that more engine is better?
So real men need a VTOL fighter that has 2, 3 or even 4 engines to do better than the Chinese?

Guess he likes talking big as usual and will change his mind next day.

oh boy, another thinly-veiled chink thread

>2 engines
they should scale up the engine to make a big boy

>>63969460 (OP)
>What is driving this sudden wish for a F55?
He got a sales pitch from a Lockheed exec and ran with it because bigger number = more gooderer

>>63963433

>>63969460 (OP)
>Make radical changes to airframe
>Change name to distinguish it from existing airframes
What did they mean by this?

>>63969472
Do you think they might be able to sell him on three engines for a blank paycheck?

F35 modified for longer range us already an NGAD against non NATO nations.

>>63969506
Three engines is just a faux pas
we don't go there

>>63969460 (OP)
>Did someone infect the POTUS with the idea that more engine is better?
Most likely. He's dangerously easy to manipulate.

it'll cost a trillion dollars to develop and be 15 years late

>>63969460 (OP)
>What is driving this sudden wish for a F55?
Desire to cancel stuff started by other presidents administration so he can leave his own mark in history. No matter if it fucks up military procurement for decades to come. Only thing that matter to Trump is himself and products branded with his name.
>Did someone infect the POTUS with the idea that more engine is better?
More and bigger is always better, but you can even better if you gold plate it.
>>63969523
Make it three trillion and 30 years behind schedule. More is better.

>>63969465
>calling out Dear Leader's retarded ideas is now chinky
You have to go back >>>r/TheDonald

>>63969563
Not him, but the barely hidden insecurity about engine counts is what gives it away.

There's leaks already of the F-55 testing.

>>63969568
fuck off chinkspammer

>>63969460 (OP)
It would be an entirely different air frame. It should never have been related to the F-35 since it would have to come from a different assembly line.
They'd have to widen the aircraft. The B model is 3,000 pounds heavier than the A model but with less internal payload.
Also, fuck chink shills and Xi.

>>63969460 (OP)
Two F135s would be enough for a bomber. Wouldn't be surprised if that's what B-21 uses

>>63969575
You're awfully active since that 500 number got dropped lmao.

>>63969563
>tons of orangeman bad on /k/
>check the news
>weapons deliveries to Ukraine have ramped back up
Classic

>>63969581
>500 number
What is this? Did more kids get poisoned?

>>63969581
update me on the lore of "500"

anyway, the US always learn from the best. That was how our nation became great!

And you will never be american.

>>63969580
>Wouldn't be surprised if that's what B-21 uses
Using F135 derivatives was one of the cost saving measures of the B-21 program

>>63969591
In China? Likely.
>>63969593
500 US troops in Taiwan means Xi can't bumrush anymore and has to plan on fighting the USA.

yea

why are the chink shills on /k/ always so butthurt?

>>63969600
>500 US troops in Taiwan
can I see them?
If I can't see them, can I see the rape statistics? If there are US troops around there will be an increased in rapes. Democratic Taiwan surely will not cover that up.

>>63969613
Can you stop crying?

>>63969595
The B-21 program dropped the non-afterburning variant of the F135, and that saved million of dollars...
The F119/F135 core isn't cheap or good compared to better alternatives used in airliners.

>>63969460 (OP)
Yeah, it's called the B-21.

>>63969600
Don't worry, the old and decrepit eagle will fold its wings to the Great Dragon.

>>63969607
you know why

>>63969618
right after you chang. You will never be american btw

>>63969601
>B737 derivative landing gear
Rip

>>63969627
>Think tank
Implessive

>>63969634
Why are you crying Chang?

>>63969627
>US think tank
X

still waiting for pics of f47 and 500 US troops btw

>>63969627
>Rand Paul/Koch bros meme organization

>>63969674
A lot of -man, the overlords of golemerica
https://www.defensepriorities.org/experts/

>>63969627
>The Defense Priorities Foundation, also known as Defense Priorities, is an American foreign policy think tank based in Washington, D.C., that advocates for more restrained US foreign policy.
>Defense Priorities was established in early 2016 by supporters of United States Senator Rand Paul and funded by conservative donors Charles Koch and his brother David Koch. Early leadership included William P. Ruger of the Charles Koch Institute and Edward King of a pro-Paul political action committee. The organization was founded to advance Paul's foreign policy views, which argued for a "more prudent, restrained" United States foreign policy.[3][4]
Nothingburger

>>63969686
>https://www.defensepriorities.org/experts/
how do they get paid? Do they do this full time?

>>63969601
>>63969641
that image is total bullshit by the way, has no relation to reality AT ALL

>>63969587
>>weapons deliveries to Ukraine have ramped back up
Great news.
Now could you remind me who was the piece of shit who was hindering them in the first place?

>>63969510
>>63969506
four.

>>63969725
I'll be honest, I don't know where you could even fit a second engine in an F-35, let alone three or four. It'll be 90% engine by weight.

>>63969725
That's better. Three would be just silly. It's gotta be powers of two.

>>63969732
>It'll be 90% engine by weight.
That just means there's 10% of excess mass.

>>63969465
>another thinly-veiled chink thread
Are you callint the POTUS a chink shill?
Because he is the one implying 1 engine make the F35 inferior.

Frankly, ignoring his emotional rambling, someone must have sold him the idea of a F22 large fighter with 2 engines except VTOL. Even for him I doubt he forgot he already has a F47 on the way.
Not even a bomber like some others anon seem to be pushing.

(that or he is trying to make it look like he's in control despite the latest fuckery over Patriot for Ukraine)

>>63969465
you americans unironically became like the chinks. Any amount of discussion about something you're insecure about sends you into a passive aggressive fit.
It reminds me of when I used to troll chinks on wechat back in 2013

>>63969746
>someone must have sold him the idea
Yeah, Lockheed. >>63963433

>>63969748
>spam board
>get told to fuck off
Yeah, we're the insecure ones.

>>63969746
Ace Combat ass corporate welfare plane

>>63969523
that's still 20 years ahead of the competition

>>63969725
Why not five?

>>63969593
post hands gun and outlet mr "american"

>>63969587
>ramped back up
The question is why they were obstructed is he is suddenly so against it.

I'm wondering if the pro-Kremlin lobbyist plan isn't to make moves that weaken the US but that Trump can't easily cancel without revealing he is losing control, surrounded by Russian/Chinese agent or without going against his voters.

>>63969587
>ramped back up
The question is why they were obstructed is he is suddenly so against it.
I'm wondering if the pro-Kremlin lobbyist plan isn't to make moves that weaken the US but that Trump can't easily cancel without revealing he is losing control, surrounded by Russian/Chinese agent or without going against his voters.

>>63969815
>>63969825
reddit spacing has been to most successful psyop on this site's history

it drives insecure newfags to the walls

>>63969460 (OP)
>What is driving this sudden wish for a F55?
It's his usual political tactic when he's fucked something up.
He just says something nonsensical or outrageous to get everyone talking about it and the news cycle moves on from his fuck up.

>>63969825
This isn’t any less ESL than the post you deleted you dumb chink.

>>63969732
two at the wingtips
two on the wings
nyoom

5 engines

>>63969460 (OP)
You can't just make a single engine jet twin engine or vice versa because the airframe is designed for thrust loading, G loading, intake area ect.
I think he's just doing the typical egomanic thing of "I know best" on topics he doesn't have a vauge understanding of, see Stalin & Hitler for the same mindset leading to terrible military procurement.

>>63969741
so it's a rocket with a pilot? kamikaze icbm?

>>63969956
Nah, rockets are mostly fuel by mass.

>>63969748
>you americans unironically became like the chinks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people
I can see the similarities.
>How dare you hurt the feelings of 70 gorillion American voters

>>63969470
the point of 2 engines is redundancy. While the F-35 is pretty damn reliable if you look at flight hours:incident ratio, several of the unrecoverable incidents were engine failure related. Twin engine designs are inherently less vulnerable to that sort of thing.

In terms of the entire Trump butting in to the F-35 program thing, it's an aesthetics thing. He thinks twin engines look better. He's right but also, it's not right for the F-35. You run into issues trying to kludge together 2 engines into an airframe designed to be single engine.

The US should revisit this concept, too many countries have normal aircraft carrier nowadays.

>>63969832
>>63969850
I just didn't meant to double space and wished to quickly nip it as 4chanx make it easy. Did forget anon conditioned himself to jump on that sort of things


Have triple space.

>>63969506
Junker niggas we are so back!

>>63969460 (OP)
Trump's wish is that his narcissism got real bothered by lack of attention towards him in that press conference/day/week/month so he started rambling and made up some bullshit that would give him a excuse to appear in front of the cameras and have people talking about him.

If you ever had someone in your family with heavy narcissism or narcissistic personality disorder you'd understand. I believe the whole "annex Canada" bullshit was caused by something similar.

>>63969460 (OP)
Why do we need a twin engine stealth aircraft when we already have the F15-EX and it's better in most situations?
We need a thousand F-15EXs not a new F-35

>>63970035
I love blimps and consider their fall into obscurity a tragedy, but they are far too slow and vulnerable for modern war.

>it'll be incapable of supercruise
does T know?

>>63970887
Fuck off back where you came from with the rest of the armchair psychologists you fag.

>>63969746
All that effort and no gerwalk mode.

>>63969641
The B-2 has Boeing landing gear. IIRC 757 gear. It also has composite skins and structural sections made by Boeing - as does the F-22. As well as Boeing in charge of systems integration. Furthermore, the code used on the X-47B carrier UCAV was helped along by Boeing's code from the X-45A UCAV program. You can knock Boeing all you want, but, they're responsible for some of the most cutting-edge technology the US has to offer. They're the world's leading experts in composite structures, and that's why just about every US platform exploiting composites goes to Boeing for their expertise in design and most importantly manufacturing large scale composite parts. Also, that pic is majority BS.

>>63969523
..but enough about FCAS

>>63969766
>anything that hurts my feelings is spam

>>63972821
>people pre-emptively shutting down discussion with someone who likely doesn't argue in good faith is "getting their feelings hurt"
hey faggot, imageboards have this thing called an immune system. if some mentally ill schizo spams this place over and over again, he will eventually get recognized and ejected from conversation.

>>63969679
you have mental illness

>>63972845
Except that's not what is happening. What's happening is that every time a picture of a J-35 or any other chink plane gets posted americans go into a rage since they are reminded that they are falling behind in development with nothing to show for it. Saging and telling actual chink spammers to fuck off is one thing, having a meltdown everytime you see a chinese plane means being buckbronek. Maybe you'll cry about wanting a safe space?

>>63972853
>NOOOO IT'S THIS FANTASY INSTEAD
sure bud.
people will pre-empt shilling if it happens often enough, it's that simple.
you can get angry at chinks for ruining discussion, they caused this.

>>63972853
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that there's at least two threads made about China's new super special innovative never been done before 6th gen fighter jets every day.

>>63970935
>I love blimps and consider their fall into obscurity a tragedy
Aerostats are still doing big work. I used to drive out to one on my old base just to sit and think and be away from things for a while

>>63972112
Goddamn I love the 757

>>63973888
There should be a standing general for ROW systems. All the America bigots can pop in and "IMPLESSIVE" before fucking off and the thirdies can make their vague insinuations, and somehow between the two, a few people will actually talk about cool and interesting shit being made mostly by China/Brazil(and a bunch of garbage made by India/Russia)

>>63973953
>There should be a standing general for ROW systems. All the America bigots can pop in and "IMPLESSIVE" before fucking off and the thirdies can make their vague insinuations, and somehow between the two, a few people will actually talk about cool and interesting shit being made mostly by China/Brazil(and a bunch of garbage made by India/Russia)
That's what happens now except the threads rarely pass 100 posts because there's always 2-4 of them up at a time. Not to mention the fact that they always come pre-loaded with barely concealed insecurity and seething.

>>63969587
being ruled by a squirrel with adhd and dementia is no less bad when it sometimes makes good decisions because a particular handler got the most talk time that day

>>63969460 (OP)
>sudden wish for a F55?
Single engine aircraft crash more in training because engine out probably means bailout. For combat it doesn't matter as much.

>>63969472
Trump will "change his mind" the moment he hears a new idea or the moment his current idea doesn't gain traction. Don't think he's invested in the F55. Also they should have called it the DJT47