Tanks and IFVs numbers have dropped dramatically this year. New builds are slow to come.
Artillery shells are depleted, mostly relying on North Korean supply, which by the numbers suspected is reaching towards their end also. Again, the rate of producing new ones is not enough.
Are motorcycles + drones enough to push with?

Wheelbarrows and Heelys

>>64003519
I don't think Eastern Ukrainian roads support Heelys at this point

Hopes, dreams, and the threats of death by anal rape if you don't follow orders. Now get in the fucking Lada, Shinjovich

>>64003507 (OP)
>Are motorcycles + drones enough to push with?
No, but they are enough to keep feeding the zigger grinder ad infinitum to stave off Putin having to sit on the bottle for as long as possible.

>>64003507 (OP)
the russians will keep pushing regardless of the fact that what they have is "enough to push with"
which it already isn't now.
the only result of them sticking their heads in the sand as to their situation is that total zigger death will increase at an ever faster rate.
russian daily casualty rates keep reaching new record highs, they'll keep pushing even when they're losing the attritional war.

wouldn't it be better to ask if ukraine can push on the main front instead of into the kursk republic?
we've seen year after year of ukies turning the russia's offensives into suicidal charges for individuals bushes, but nothing grand from the army in ukraine proper since kherson

>>64003553
The Ukrainians are not dumb enough to try crossing those minefields again while the Russians are still defending them
The plan is to force a retreat by attacking elsewhere until the lie defending the mine belt is rendered untenable, at which point engineers can clear lanes through the mines without coming under attack

>>64003553
>why wont ukies just dive into defended minefields already and die in droves like the russians?
dumbass

afvs are mostly death traps now, which is something people need to realize.

russia does this:
>bombs fortifications, fields and tree-lines; high sortie rates
>artillery doing the same, but also drone directed; high volume of fire
>drones everywhere; interdicting roads almost constantly
>foot-mobile troops push forward once they deem it relatively safe enough
>line moves forward and the whole thing happens again

>>64003570
maybe i'm just too optimistic here, but i was thinking more along the lines of "when will the russian situation become so dire that mine clearing vehicles can operate on the front again?"
it might be that drones made that impossible for the rest of time and i haven't fully realized it yet

>>64003577
>pokrovsk still stands year+ into this thing that russia does
curious

>>64003577
yeah no, russia still uses armored vehicles WHEN THEY CAN because they're just low on them.
russia isn't "choosing" not to go with them, they are forced into a less protected mobility option because the destroyed most of the good ones.

>>64003548
>russian daily casualty rates keep reaching new record highs
I haven't seen any hard numbers in a while. I kinda tuned out once they topped an average of 1000 a day. Where are they at now?

It seems more sensible to strengthen the defense in the occupied territories, replenish equipment, and wait for the mood of Western aid to dissipate.

>>64003577
>AFV
>death trap
Maybe a soviet shitbox, but you are beyond retarded if you believe this
Kys drone nigger tourist

>>64003813
haha yeah that'll definitely happen sometime soon, right? not like it's already been 3 and a half years and aid is still only increasing, right?

>>64003553
Not really. The Ukies need to make their offensive focus eliminating the Sukhois and getting rid of the FAB plague. Spider Web was a fun flex on the Ziggers but realistically it would have been much better to blow up 40 Sukhois instead.

In any case that's not a target you destroy with regular infantry, it's a SBU/Air Force thing. It should be their main effort right now, but it's not really appearant that it is

>>64003588
The turning point for that is total artillery death. It was rapidly approaching, but then Big Kim stepped in and started supplying his new dog with barrels and shells. Not enough to actually win mind you, the longer russia depends on Best Korean weapons the better off Best Korea is. But enough to prevent attritional losses from resulting in stretches of the front where russia has no artillery at all. That's part of the reason there's been a massive uptick (and subsequent shilling about, remember all that?) in the smekalka glide bombs, because that's all russia has to throw at most offensive operations. The problem there is it results in accumulating attrition on airframes which are a far more finite resource than artillery. It really depends on how long it's going to take to attrite enough barrels, there are sections of the front where Ukraine has local fire parity which, considering russia started the war with a 7:1 advantage, is insane to think about. Drones play a small factor but the reality is you can't assault a minefield protected by artillery without taking massive losses, and you can't defend a minefield from any mechanized assault without artillery.

>>64003688
The daily personnel losses peaked around 2025Q1 but the average is still significantly higher than 1000.

>>64003813
>EU only just started to take the gloves off
>Largest russians banks scarred of defaulting within 12 months
Its like a lada playing chicken with a freight train.

>>64003870
FABs are localised front line level tactical threats, heavy bombers that can launch cruise missiles are theater level strategic threats. Reducing the ability of russia to spam missiles protects not only your critical infrastructure and backline logistics, it increases the wear rate on the remaining airframes. The Sukoi spam is a problem for the guys defending hamlet #32576 (prewar population 200, total attacker casualties to reach outskirts 2000) but it's not going to lose the war. The planes can't fly forever, they are losing them above replacement rate, and even then it's not doing anything to the overall broader picture.
>so why is Ukraine fighting so hard over these tiny villages then?
Because they're attriting the hell out of the russian forces to the point that we're talking about how they're sending men into combat on electric scooters and Ladas with one or two T-72s hiding in the back for two weeks waiting until there's nothing but bloody rubble to advance towards. Then they get to do it all over again five km down the road.
>but they still advance
Every month it's slower, more costly, and with continuously worse equipment.

>>64003507 (OP)
>Tanks and IFVs numbers have dropped dramatically this year.
Yeah there is a pretty big downward trend.
This is monthly russian tank losses.

Can they recover from this?

>>64003939
And monthly afv losses.

>>64003507 (OP)
>What are Russians going to be pushing with?

>>64003939
>>64003950
"Cars and cisterns"(sic) for comparison.

>>64003952
wow. just fucking wow.

>>64003952
is that mortar fire?

>>64003813
Russia can't really afford to do that, because:
a) it would give initative to Ukraine, who could finally start more or less freely employing western style fast movement and breach tactics
b) russia is reliant on the artillery, and it has been attritioned to parity or worse with Ukraine who still has range advantance
c) russia requires "something to show" for the homefront even if they are advances measured in meters.
d) russia seems to think that those advances also show the west that "russia is stronk" for some reason.
e) russia needs to have their mobiks in move so that they dont start thinking or plotting too much

If russia starts suddenly actually pushing for ceasefire, you can be pretty sure that russian forces are at breaking point and they would need to switch to defensive to survive at all.

>>64003952
christ, it's like that one monty python skit

>>64003952
You got the footage of a russians running into a landmine, gets blown up and falls down on another landmine?

>>64003507 (OP)
>>64003519
WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, BLYAD

Monthly russian losses in the "special equipment" category.

This is perhaps the most telling graph.
The last time russia had fully equipped battalions on the field was before 2024 christmas.

>>64003507 (OP)
The same as before: golf carts, motorbikes, meat infiltration squads, and FPVs.

So all trolling aside, how do we fix this conundrum?

1- APCs/IFVs are too conspicuous targets and more likely to result in mass cas when targeted by precision munitions, we've never had a situation where precision munitions like FPV drones were this cheap and prevalent all over the front, ATGMs were cumbersome and limited in numbers.

2- Light vehicles/bikes can speed past FPV drones (mostly) and are less profitable targets, but offer no protection from area of effect indirect fire weapons or from a simple machinegun in a camouflaged position and your assault will be cut down easily when you come near the enemy position.

>>64003813
If russia was sensible it would never start this war (even Krym and Donbas shit year ago), their influsence in west grow uninterrupted and they could subvert Ukraine later in future. Like it shouldn't be even issue, even now they have Putin puppets in charge of NATO countries

>>64004001

>>64003971
>russia seems to think that those advances also show the west that "russia is stronk" for some reason.
Well it works for far to many people

>>64004001
>more likely to result in mass cas
They're less likely compared to no AFVs. Nor can motorbikes speed past FPVs.

The easy approach is swarming the air with your own drones supported by artillery to clear an area and the traditional one which still works is upgraded armor attacks with jammers, AA guns and so on. Western armies are investing in both.

>>64004017
>Something slower and less armored than an APC

>>64003977
This one?

>>64003960
Looks too accurate for mortars, I'm guessing it's mines + FPVs

>>64003507 (OP)
They're literally fighting with shovels and will collapse in 2 weeks.
Russia is so weak Lmao

>>64004001
>Light vehicles/bikes can speed past FPV drones
They really can't, not any more than an APC can. I don't get why people see an environment where the air is filled with flying explosives and assume less protection is the answer.
>god this tank is really stuffy, it takes a dozen or two fpv's to disable it before I gotta bail, I think I should try my chances on a dirtbike with a rocket launcher strapped to my back

>>64004067
2022
>poccnr stronk, Kiev in 3 days)))
2025
>poccnr stronk, we haven't collapsed yet))
Very compelling.

>>64003507 (OP)
How are they even replacing the crews to operate and maintain these vehicles?

The state of their army must be dire.

>>64004001
A motorcycle with gyrocopter addon.

>>64003577
> foot-mobile troops push forward once they deem it relatively safe enough
100k KIA in 6 months

>>64004067
Late 2022 early 2023 was a low point for russia, the quality of their recruits and equipment they had was terrible. They still rely on artillery for most of the work and they air force was parked doing mostly nothing.
Reorganizing stocks, creating larger refurbishment lines, adding ways to recruit people without declaring an official war, etc. They're using imported shaheds too because the stock of soviet cruise missiles was almost depleted (they still had like +1000 because the pre-war stock was huge, +5000)

Ukraine chose early 2023 for their offensive because they knew that and the fact it was temporary, the real attrition takes time because they're destroying deployed weapons, not in storage.

>>64003507 (OP)
It is time for the 'Stans to rise up and reclaim their ancient territory from the Rus.

>>64004001
>1- APCs/IFVs are too conspicuous targets and more likely to result in mass cas when targeted by precision munitions, we've never had a situation where precision munitions like FPV drones were this cheap and prevalent all over the front, ATGMs were cumbersome and limited in numbers.
The solution is to raise the capability floor needed to hit them back to ATGM level. Every IFV needs a point defence system, be it laser, maser, shotgun or machinegun based, along with a jammer to protect itself. I imagine that cope cages will get more popular too, just extend existing slat armor packages over the roof

>>64003952
Fucking GLA, man...

>>64004079
>They really can't, not any more than an APC can. I don't get why people see an environment where the air is filled with flying explosives and assume less protection is the answer.
I totally agree with that, but there's some merit to the idea, dispersion is one way you increase your force's protection factor, if it takes 12 FPVs to kill 12 bikes instead of 6 to kill an APC with 12 infantryman inside, you doubled your force's protection.

It feels likenwe are facing Russia becoming East Ukraine at this point. How do you fuck up this badly

>>64003939
>Can they recover from this?
Absolutely not unless China somehow decides that Russia needs 10k tanks and other armored vehicles

Kind of feels Russians have ran out of strategy. Doing motorcycle charges into mines, mortars, drones and machinegun positions will lead to marginal territory gains at a substantially higher casualty rate. This would require ever increasing signing bonuses, while the state is already failing to balance the budget this year.
I don't see any other option than a new forced mobilization wave coming in 2025

>>64004055
Yepp that is the one. Damn imagine getting told 5 years ago that the there is going to be drone footage of a russian intentionally running into a landmine field after watching his two friends infront of him get blown up by a landmine.

I would not have believed it back then since it is so silly to imagine it happening in the modern era.

>>64004322
>Kind of feels Russians have ran out of strategy
Anon, they've been doing this since 2022. They don't know any other strategy other than this

>>64003507 (OP)
I literally saw people here talking about how russia losing airframes will lead to 2k casualties per day. That was 9 months ago and the casualties are like 1100 per day even by Ukranian bs numbers. /k/ is a pro ukranian echo chamber

>>64004303
>you doubled your force's protection
Dispersion is a good idea, but I don't think it really filters down that well to the individual level like that. 12 dudes in an APC are still substantially more protected than 12 dudes on motorbikes (who aren't even substantially faster given terrain difficulties), you're just hoping that they're too spread out to get all of them and that the survivors will accomplish something worthwhile. It feels more like
>we have to resort to this to get anything going
rather than
>yes this is a good and effective idea

Obviously it kinda works but obviously it kinda doesn't work that well.

>>64004067
>NOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT TOTAL ZIGGER DEATH IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE
lol, your favourite ziggers are dying and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

>>64004354
Anon, 2k casualties a day was reached last year.
See >>64003914

>>64003553
minefields are strong enough that until total arty death, pushing into them is a waste of manpower and material. the ukes have shown willingness to give ground in exchange for horrendous russian death tolls, i expect the pattern will continue until the big guns fall silent.

>>64004322
I mean realistically aside from going back to a ww1 style offensive mining / sapper approach this is about all they can do. And they can't take a sapper approach because that would be intelligent, which is illegal there

>>64004374
>2k on absolute worst days
>heh this means that the Russians took 2k casualties per day everyday.

Lmao /k/ is absolutely retarded when it comes to defending the diggers.

>>64004386
>diggers
i don't defend diggers though, those little fuckers keep messing up my yard
TOTAL DIGGER DEATH
if you meant ukrainians somehow i'm not defending them, they're perfectly capable of defending themselves, as proven by the ridulous rate of daily dead ziggers.
>NOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WE *ONLY* LOSE 1000 DEAD ZIGGERS ON A NORMAL DAY
yeah, they're still losing the attritional war at that rate.
no amount of
>yeah but they're bigger
or
>b-but they're a more populous country they SHOULD win
works here, yes, russia SHOULD win, it SHOULD'VE been able to beat ukraine 3 years ago, but it didn't and it isn't, massive incompetence, corruption, general technological backwardness, a one-trick pony economy, extreme inefficiency, and a deathcult like mentality towards preventing losses will cause that to happen.

>>64004400
Lmao 1k casualties is nothing. The millions of people living in the territories that Russia occupies in Ukraine are enough to make up for the next 10 years worth of losses. Millions of Ukranian men will flee to their families in the west once that shithole Ukraine opens its borders. Ukranians like their ancestors will live under the Russian bot. And no amount of echochambers can stop that.

>>64004037
an APC is just a slower less armored IFV.

>>64004430
fascinating.

>>64004430
Those bombed-out empty villages and the ruins of Bakhmut promise a bright future, I am sure. Russia didn't get population, it got a mine-laden wasteland with oil to its north-east.
Those who are forced to live there hate Russia with a burning passion. And will leave the second the house of cards crumbles.

>>64004488
In your dreams, the people of Luhansk and Donetsk are happy that Ukraine is finally getting what they deserve for shelling them for years.

>>64004509
>shelling them for years
Didn't happen.

>>64004509
yes the two shit holes where every more or less fit man has been run trough the meat grinder. the coal shitholes that had a declining and aging population befoere 2014 already. that's the big demographic win for russia.

>>64004509
>the people of donetsk and luhansk
are dead. Russia send most of males to their death

>>64004430
>1k casualties is nothing
not per day it isn't, this is extremely delusional cope.
>the millions of people living in the territories that russia occupies
most of them left to ukraine though, and the remainder you imported will now be fighting you tooth and nail for the rest of their lives, they will sabotage any military effort rather than help it, and have already done so, which is why russia coping about holding onto the territories it has managed to, is so impotent.
that will never become useable territory for you, and you will have to keep defending it while losing the attritional war every single day.

i can tell with the amount of spitting and sniffing hate you have towards ukraine that you're probably not a rational actor and have been mindfucked by russian propaganda, not surprising then that you've got such shit opinions, you probably only started talking about military strategy because of this war, and have no interest in it outside of that.
>and no amount of echochambers
indeed no amount of echochambers will stop russia from losing, and no amount of seething at /k/ and arguing in bad faith will stop /k/ from being right.

>>64004430
>1k casualties is nothing
It's a thousand times more than everything you have ever experienced.
Every day.
Until TZD.

>>64004509
yep, so you're a mindfucked propagandized retard, not surprising.
that never happened, and russia tried to kill off the inhabitants of those regions by sending them off into battle with mosins and basically no gear.

hey, retarded nigger, remember when russia was pretending that those two regions totally wanted independence and russia totally wasn't doing a landgrab?
remember how hard you guys tried to memoryhole that when russia dropped the fake mask and just absorbed them without giving those regions any autonomy?
try and search your soul for a second, try to notice the massive cognitive dissonance preventing you from seeing this and realizing how untrustworthy and backwards russians are, you might escape the propaganda trap yet.

Seriously. Are vatniks even capable of honest discussion? Or is it nothing more than lies, falsehoods, low-IQ subterfuge, distortion and other painfully transparent mindgames?

Guys...

>>64004600
how are people still asking this question when the answer was obvious 200+ years ago?

>>64003813
>and wait for the mood of Western aid to dissipate.
which part?
the only aid that might cede is anything the US supplies

euros just committed to a hilariously big shell production (Rheinmetall alone will do 1,5million/y in 2027)
which will mostly go to Ukraine
larger orders / volumes (mainly from Germany) will get prices down across all platforms

and defensive systems aid like IRIS-T or Skynex are really easy to sell to the public
just show the latest retarded civilian bombings and they approve
Russia is already the public antagonist #1

nothing
literally nothing indicates
that EU countries will slow or even stop military aid

And yet, curiously, Russia has the initiative and keeps taking ground. But sure, just 2 more weeks and than the sanctions will. Finally work and Russia will be out of materiel finally and just another 2 weeks and the pride banner will be displayed by NATO forces in the Red Square.

>>64004681
>literally cannot stop thinking about homosex

>>64004681
Russia has taken less than 2% of Ukraine in 2 years. You lost most of your tanks and IFVs and a significant portion of your air force. More russian soldiers are KIA in a single year than US soldiers were killed in 20 years in Vietnam. Is this what you retards are bragging about? What a sad, pathetic performance from the self-proclaimed "2nd army in the world".

this conflict is like the war equivalent of germany 7 - brazil 1

the clock is still running but one side has simply given up

>>64004681
>Russia has the initiative
That's because it will immediately collapse if it loses it, like >>64003971 said. So russia either keeps wasting thousands of lives weekly for fuckall because they literally can't do anything else.

>>64004026
>Well it works for far to many people
Those people possess a very specific skin color.

Ukraine is USSR's Afghanistan.
And the herald of the same end to come some years later.

>>64004681
>russia isn't a crater in the ground
>therefore sanctions aren't working
the mind of the thirdie, ladies and gentlemen.

>>64003507 (OP)
the thing is that ukraine is just as depleted in terms of armored vehicles (and always has been), so i dont see anything fundamentally changing based on this development alone

Why do we always help the bear recover?
This cycle needs to stop.

>>64004770
it is in many ways far worse than afghanistan.
also i don't think the USSR was ever forced into the percentage of GDP spent on the military before it collapsed that russia already has been.
there's other parallels too like failing crop yields, a dying civilian sector and extreme vulnerability to low oil prices.

>>64004782
kill all russians and replace them with dutch people mass-bred in tubes.

>>64004785
>i don't think the USSR was ever forced into the percentage of GDP spent on the military
It was about 10-20%, so up to four times less than the current shitshow if going by conservative estimates.
Fuck, I can almost smell Rosbank and Sberbank going under, following either a bank run or a large default by the majority of the lenders.

>>64003870
Sukhois are replaceable, strategic bombers are not

>>64004823
Also, the worst damage to a dictator is damage to his face and ego. The lives and tech don't matter to the retarded monkey pox vector in the Kremlin.

Infantry, what else.

>>64004802
>It was about 10-20%,
about ~18% at the time of it's collapse
but GDP was measured somewhat differently
as well as military spending

the 18% included infrastructure, lots of research (even kinda unrelated stuff like undergrad programs) etc. and excluded export earnings
and again GDP was calculated weirdly

just for reference
>Russia will spend ~7.2% of its GDP on military in 2025

also as ironic as it sounds, but importantly
Russias government spending quote (by GDP) is at ~38%
while communist USSR was at ~30% (towards it's end)
which makes it more difficult for Russia to spend more / less flexibility as you strangle the economy even more if you divert spending quickly

>>64004001
Tanks cost 5x-10x the cost of an IFV/APC. Remove tanks as a concept and double IFV/APC numbers. Make dedicated SHORAD vehicles out of part of those. Also now every APC/IFV should always be half empty so in case of failure there are fewer losses and personnel can comfortably shuffle between vehicles as long as the losses stay below 50%.

>>64004681
Day 1242

>>64004792
>mfw the Dutch mastermind a flawless TZD program that makes Lebensraum look neighbourly by comparison

>>64004765
>very specific skin color.
Orange

donkeys and camels

>>64004874
Does it count as one's skin color if it comes from a can?

>>64004874
>Orange
Agent Orange got his feelings hurt by Curious Georgevsky, he no longer believes it.

>>64003507 (OP)
>What are Russians going to be pushing with?
I know it doesn't get posted as often these days, but are not not following the Andrew Perpetua round-ups of visually confirmed losses anymore?

They are a motorcycle and lada army. Why do you think their losses are so clownish per-square kilometer of sterile UXO contaminated farmland taken?

>>64004792
>>64004872
nonsense, that's inhumane, the dutch would die of stress from being that far away from the oceans
only give them the coastal regions.

dumb jompyposter

>What are Russians going to be pushing with?
I know it doesn't get posted as often these days, but are you not following the Andrew Perpetua round-ups of visually confirmed daily losses anymore?

They are a motorcycle and lada army. Why do you think their losses are so clownish per-square kilometer of sterile UXO contaminated farmland taken?

>>64004890
Dream a little deeper darling.

>>64004303
Or 12 AP mines that can be dropped from single drone

>>64003577
Russia does that because they have local shortages of AFVs across the entire front at this point. They will never truly run out but they've gotten a lot rarer just because Russia is losing them faster than they can replace or restore them. It's a hilarious cope to believe that they're choosing to do this shit. AFVs offer superior protection against drones and motorbikes have only a slight concealment advantage due to observation drones having high quality cameras.

Well designed 'cope cages' ar fairly effective protection against FPV drones, but even the most effective protection in the world doesn't matter if you're sending like 3 unsupported tanks into an open field. All of the videos you see don't cover the other 40 drones it took to finally get a kill on that isolated vehicle that was doomed by the terrible mission structure more than its technical faults as a vehicle.

>>64003553
Ukraine doesn't have effectively infinite disposable manpower like Russia does. Their only real path to victory is attriting Russia until they get local or general collapses in morale/logistics. That's more or less how Kharkiv and the Kiev gestures of goodwill happened.
Neither side is actually going to lose the war due to lack of manpower though. Ukraine still isn't full in on mobility because it wants to preserve some semblance of a potential future.

>>64003952
they did their job, they found the minefield )))) hohols just don't understand ))))

>>64004890
the dutchman yearns for the swamp

>>64004792
>dutch

>>64004942
Has anyone made a successful cope cage for a motorcycle yet? I bet we're about to see a lot of tries of that within the next year

These threads on /k/ are pointless.
It's all couple of anons patting each others backs on how "Russia already lost" while Ukraine loses another city. And if anyone tries to contest this circle jerk they are immediately called a "zigger" or accused of being Russian.

>>64004792
>>64004890
Just make it a gigantic nature reserve instead.
No permanent human settlements allowed.
I guess we can let nordic and mongolian reindeer herders roam siberia if they really want.

>>64004989
>loses another city.
name it

>>64003952
Ziggers are absolute subhuman holy shit

>>64004331
it doesn't matter what era is currently happening, retards will be doing retarded shit in the year 10122 no doubt about it.
>no ivan, don't open the hatch, you can't go into space without a suit
>watch me

>>64004989
>they are immediately called a zigger or a accused of being a russian
if they post pointless, performative posts with literally no real argument like this? sure.
>u-ukraine loses another city!
do you see how vague, emotionally charged and disingenuous this is?
>harhar, frenchmen, you are losing WW1 because we captured
>tiny insignificant hamlet (prewar population 200)
after losing 5000 men for the 500th time!
do you not see why nobody takes you serious when the best arguments you can lift are
>uhhh uhhh russia is big
>uhh russia line go forward by 100 meters per month!
>uh uhhhhh ukraine is SUPPOSED to lose therefore they will ;)
try and actually dispute the deficiencies causing russia to lose the attritional war then, their extreme deathculty indifference to losing men and preventing that from happening is not real then? because the russians would disagree with you on that, matter of fact they're proud of how inefficient they are.

>>64004968
don't worry, it's gratis

>>64003507 (OP)
Where does anyone get honest information about thisbwar? The Russians have been "out of x" for years at this point but the war continues.

>>64004989
And where have they won exactly?

>>64005034
>thisbwar

>>64005034
>out of x
nobody ever said that though
what people have said is
>running out
and they were right, because russia is now so low on things like tanks that the remainder are barely being used, which is effectively the same as having "ran out"
russia is consuming things faster than it is building them, meaning that it is by definition running out and will keep having to restrict usage of these things further and further until they have almost no presence on the battlefield.
you've likely had this explained to you before.

>>64004989
>Ukraine loses another city.
Yes, the fall of the great metropolis and economic center of Nowherevilski (pre-war population: 8, plus Andriy's pet goat Sasha) is a calamity which Ukraine can not survive. A spectacular all-out strategic victory in conquering another 20 square miles which only cost russia 5000 lives. All is lost.

>>64003818
even a soviet shitbox is not a death trap as long as you don't use the interior as both personnel + munitions storage

>>64004847
Just make thousands mraps

>>64004989
>thread about russian armor losses
>NOOOOO STOP DISCUSSING IT! DON'T YOU KNOW RUSSIA TOOK PIDORODONETSK (14 inhabitans) AFTER 8 MONTHS AND 35k CASUALTIES? WE'RE WINNING!
Fuck off retard

>>64004969
you can't really do it because the driver is squishy. cope cages on civilian vehicles are actually cope cages.

>>64003507 (OP)

All night and all morning, it was flying and exploding, then ballistic missiles, then cruise missiles, then cluster bombs, then various shaheeds... The ground was humming and the sky was burning. It was hell. Apparently, the air defense systems that were supposed to protect the city and everything in the city went to protect two green asses, because that is probably the greatest value for Ukraine. They are not doing anything to protect Ukraine, but they are covering their asses with Ukraine. Green bots can start barking in my direction, you will never even dream of what happened in Pavlohrad. And the servants wrote 30 explosions of some kind and a little lamb from the flock of 73% who lives somewhere in Transcarpathia or Kyiv reads it and thinks it is bullshit. What is 30 arrivals? There were somewhere around 30 explosions every 5 minutes, starting from 3 to 5 hours, and then they were no longer missiles. I just don't understand why people lie? Why not write everything as it was? Are they afraid of losing their ratings?

>>64003577
Yes anon I'm sure that russia stopped using armoured vehicle because they realized they're bad and it's juet coincidence that they came to that conclusion once they depleted the vast majority of their armour

>>64005126
you need a new website to translate your pidorbabble, this is almost unreadable

>>64005130
exactly.
in this war armor pushes stopped being a thing after the first year.
even ukraine doesn't have any tank brigades anymore despite recently getting lots of abrams from australia.

>>64005126
What the fuck am I reading?

>>64004001
>Light vehicles/bikes can speed past FPV drones

Cars and bikes aren't much faster than an AFV dumbass

>>64005138

of what happened in Pavlohrad

>>64005147
>schizo thirdie thinks ai slop is real
im shocked

>>64005126
Saar your hindu -> english translator broke.

>>64005138
The ramblings of a buck broken Serb

>>64005155
hindu is an ethnicity. the language is called hindi.

>>64005126
>muh jooz
Keep going pidor, I almost have bingo

>>64004896
>Starlink on the third line
uh?

>>64005162
yeah the russians have tons of starlinks

>>64005162
Yeah? Russians use starlink terminals too.

>>64005160
I expected AI slop or "expert literallywho on twitter/telegram said X" to be on the bingo card.

>>64004896
>Tracked Garden Shed
>Fell into a ditch, it is covered in barbed wire for some reason
This. Fucking.War.

>>64005162
What part of Elon Musk shilling Russia and fucking with Ukraine has made you think that Musk wouldn't sell shit to Russia? The guy has his hands up both Russia and China's ass for various reasons while Xi has Musk's balls in a vice by threatening to nationalise his factory in Shanghai (so, better play ball, Musk and shill China in USA, or bye bye your millions) let alone all the Chinese billionaires he owes money to.

>even the pedophilic interracial porn addict is here seething
This thread REALLY makes ziggers mad huh

>>64005197
the law.
russia is sanctioned. us entities cannot sell dual-use technology to russia.

>>64003507 (OP)
>More than 6000 IFVs destroyed
>Almost 3000 left in storage
It's crazy to think how powerful Russia's military would be if they had a functioning human society and/or an extra 10 IQ points on average. As that one dude said, I'm thankful they're so fucking stupid.

>>64003952
>>64004055
Holy shit lmao. I've been sad about the lack of turret tosses over the past year or two, but this is pretty based

>>64005147
What is this suppose to actually show, ignoring the AI part of it. Like what was the prompt?

>>64005213
>law existing for billionaires
just how new are you?

>>64004871
I'll be hosting a celebration on day 2000
Perhaps we will watch some of our finest webms

>>64005213
We literally have proof that Russia uses starlink. Musk has said he has no sold any directly or indirectly to Russia, bit fucking weird they keep having them blown up
>w-w-well t hey captured them from hohols!
Enough of them to put them inside disposable Sneed drones? Musk is a businessman, he doesn't care where the money comes from, only that it does.

This is a guy who

1. Went onto /pol/ and posted about how Musk is so great and has lots of sex, look at all the kids he has
2. Went onto /pol/ and asked (before he bought Twitter) for people to raid accounts that were being 'mean' to him
3. Went onto /v/ and claimed he was a top ranked Diablo IV player (and some other game) and turned out he pays people to play it instead (which is weird because you can just p2w on Diablo IV)
4. Guy who made multiple burner accounts on twitter to shill himself
5. Guy who made an AI to pretend he isn't said burner accounts but accidentally spoke himself instead of using the AI and outed that he was just talking to himself

You really think an autistic billionaire is against side money? As long as he isn't punished, he'll do whatever. He wants Russia to win, but also wants to say he tried his best to help Ukraine so it's their fault they lost.

>>64005216
I wonder how many of those 3000 can be refurbished. Probably not that many.

>>64005126
hi mandick, still seething, are you?

>>64005221
i mean youre a dumbass, the russians are obviously getting them through third parties

>>64003989
What does special equipment mean here?
t. retard

>>64005279
fleshlights

>>64005313
I thought they ran out of mobiks a couple of years ago

>>64005325
There is always another fleshlight in the Russian army, anon. Their war economy is optimized around that. Also, the Norks can provide Long Dong missiles for based and trad domestic defense.

>>64004846
What's even better is Tsar Monke gas announced they have to cut defense spending. They can't stop spending money on the war for obvious reasons, so goodbye to the navy, missile forces, and new airframes.

>>64005240
Dude his father was commenting on his firing from DOGE from fucking Moscow and it was couple months ago lol lmao connect the dots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOdHLet6wuw
I also like how nobody talks about it

>>64005409
i mean, that's not really surprising considering he has an extremely negative relationship with his father and his father has made great effort to slander him for his entire adult life.
the man is known by multiple others that aren't even musk to be a fucking psycho on par with if not worse than musk himself, i personally doubt any direct connection that musk himself is supposed to have with russia.

>>64005432
>he has an extremely negative relationship with his father
and we know it from whom exactly? Don't tell me Musk just posted it on xshiter and that's why everyone thinks it

>>64003507 (OP)
>What are Russians going to be pushing with?
Mules and golf carts.

>>64005456
Speaking of which, I haven't seen those chink golf carts in a long time

>>64005447
I remember reading about Musk talking about being bullied in high school, and then his father went on the record to explain that happened because Musk was bullying another kid because his father committed suicide and the boy retaliated by beating the shit out of Musk and throwing him down a flight of stairs.

>>64005501
This doesn't reads as bad relationship with his father... it's just classic thirdwolders family education
My point is - we don't really know his actual relationship, but his father going into Moscow is fucking ridicules for the person who is leading fucking gov agency...

For me to get clearance they going perform background check not only my parents but my fucking neighbors ... and then we have billionaire with zero clearance digging into most private and secure data of US citizens... who's father is in Moscow doing podcasts???

>>64004001
It's just a failure in combined arms, the Russian military is very dysfunctional and can't coordinate at the operational level.

>>64003507 (OP)
Been asking myself that question for at least a year now.. Somehow they keep taking small amounts of land every day, despire horrendous losses from what ican read and see. But with the state of their equipment, tank force and morale, that is still crazy,

My only explanation is that the vatnik has such a slave mind that they can just stumble forward with 0 concern for their lives where any sane force would long have fragged their incompetent command

>>64003952
>"if you encounter a minefield, proceed as if it was not there"
never change

>>64004770
maybe a hot take but afghanistan was a total cakewalk compared to this war. As dysfunctional as the soviet union was, it still had the two braincells to leave eventually

>>64005057
No l normally just get called a zigger. My question is how theyre still taking territory? Is Ukraine running out as well? If theyre supposedly losing presence on the battlefield how are there still such large amounts of casualties and good sized offensives taking place?

>>64005560
Russia concludes that Ukraine will run out of manpower before Russia does. And technically they're right, Russia hasn't even begun to tap into Moscow's reserve of bodies.
The problem is eventually the Russian military will collapse at an organizational level and it'll be 1917 all over again.

>>64005636
>afghanistan will run out of manpower before we do
>chechnya will run out of manpower before we do
might as well throw in
>vietnam will run out of manpower before big strong murica does
russia lost back in '22

>>64005216
>this is pretty based
It has its charm, I do miss seing T72 turrets being sent into orbit though

>>64005625
I meant it in a symbolic way. It is one of the puzzle pieces that eventually led to the dissolution of the USSR.

>>64005628
>My question is how theyre still taking territory?
By using the grim tactic of meat waves with barrier troops. Basically, trading a few meters of ground per day for a thousand casualties. At this point, we are not talking about kilometers, but things like a flower field, a tree line, a cucumber patch etc.
So unless this is what "taking territory" means to you, they are, in fact, not taking territory.

the only resource russia can spare plenty of is people. oil extraction is the only source of income of russia and it's not very people intensive. with that (ever decreasing and sanctioned) income they can buy chinkshit drone components and motorcycles. then with their people they can keep an endless meat trickle. they can send shasneeds. a few ballistic missiles or plane bombs too once in a while.

they can do that for measly gains but it's not going to "push" really. meanwhile ukraine should keep bombing russia's shit inside so they lose all their remaining fancy capabilities in all fields and are truly reduced to nothing more than a meat trickle. then it's waiting for the regime to crumble because there is no more money.

>>64004992
>genetically reverse engineer mammoths
>just for research introduced into their native habitat in siberia
>really it's to turn russia into a mammoth ranch
>do it a bit more sustainably than 50000 years ago.
>???
>infinite cheap red meat and milk again

>>64005628
they endlessly throw bodies to exploit any possible weakness and if there is one they will throw the fancier stuff. ukrainians prefer giving a bit of land in exchange for less casualties.

>>64005560
>My only explanation is that the vatnik has such a slave mind that they can just stumble forward with 0 concern for their lives where any sane force would long have fragged their incompetent command
It's a mix of cynicism and love of gain + money while also wanting, needing, choosing an enemy to hate and to produce crazy, chauvinistic nonsense propaganda about -- and then feeding from that same trough -- because it's the only thing in Russia that allows the population to experience a nationwide simultaneous collective orgasm (in absence of science, the country's own culture, and other factors). This is an army which plundered their own people while "liberating" Kursk.
https://youtu.be/txh4CUmq4fw

>>64005747
>"this concert is dedicated to the 1000 of our brave guys who blindly walked into minefields yesterday"

>>64005645
The US only took like 100 dead per year in Afghanistan, we were nowhere near close to running out of bodies.... Even Vietnam was 5k~ per year.

>>64004001
Ensure your EWAR is better and running in-theater
Platoon or even section level SPAA
Put an automated MG on your tank to shoot at drones.

>>64005809
yeah, it's always sobering to see how trivial most of those "terrible wars" in the last centrury were for us in terms of casualties compared to this thing.
They have already lost far more men then the US did fighting the germans in WW2

>>64005628
The popular mind has an image of drone swarms making meat waves obsolete. The reality of the war is that Ukrainian logistics vary wildly between units, drone "swarms" are nonexistent and only a few drones can be in the sky in a given area at a time, drones are often rare items, and jamming or weather can make them worthless for long periods.


Russia can keep throwing small team or squad size attacks forward constantly and there aren't enough drones to stop even a third of them. Traditional infantry do most of the stopping. They're rationed too. So Russia advances in an agonizingly slow trickle.

>>64005837
it makes you wonder what an operation unthinkable's opportunity cost would be, as opposed to the current situation where the debt is ballooned trying to contain russia and china in an ongoing cold war. if only macarthur's dumb ass wasn't the one trying to advocate for such aggressive plays

>>64003952
why are they driving a motorcycle into a battlefield? This doesn't sound like a war to me.

>>64005939
Operation unthinkable would have lasted however long it took to build and drop nukes on Moscow, Leningrad, Stalingrad, and any other major russian cities. The red airforce would have lasted a month, maybe two at most against the RAF and USAAF l especially without the constant flow of American avgas. All the industry the soviets had built up would vanish in either mushroom clouds or round the clock bombardment from B-29 fleets. Allowing the ussr to recover from the war was, as Patton put it, losing the peace.

>>64005560
>My only explanation is that the vatnik has such a slave mind that they can just stumble forward with 0 concern

They are in-core collectivist. Russia doesn't know the concept of trading and bussiness. Soviet model is probably their best model because they don't have genes of doing trades. Sadly they gave up on that and become another tsar 2.0.

I feel bad that for the next 100+ years, fields of Ukraine will be uninhabitable to UXO. I wonder if we will see red zones like in france

>>64003507 (OP)
Whatever the local commander can scrounge up after being told by his boss "go assault here" without any offers of support or equipment.

>>64006120
Anon please, Ukraine's battlefields are nowhere close to the level of devastation found in No-Man's-Land.

>>64005246
I'm guessing a lot of what's left are the non-functional vehicles that were stripped for parts to get the rest running.

>>64006150
it will still be a shit show for farmers for a long time mr anon
>be Ukrainian
>hop on tractor in field, rolling over dangerous hazardous materials such as vatnig corpses

i don't even want to think of the type of diseases the plants will get being grown from their corpses

>>64003688

I'm going to assume that the number of Russians who die on any given day as a direct result of military operations in Ukraine (KIA, DOW, and DOI put together) runs well over a thousand. The source for daily Russian casualty estimates comes from the Ukrainian ministry of defense and they're only counting the ones that they can visually confirm killing. Wounded presumably aren't being counted and men confined to the infirmary with Typhus definitely aren't.

>>64005056
>A single typo invalidates his point

>>64006268
His point was mindless bullshit, the typo is just the icing on the cake.

>>64005560
>Somehow they keep taking small amounts of land every day
Lightly guarded UXO contaminated farmland and ruined hamlets with <10 houses are their day-to-day, anon.
At not at a low cost, even by their own counts.

Anything larger than a townlet requires >1 year of daily assaults. And even that's not entirely true given the fight for Chasiv Yar is almost 2 years old.

>>64003553
Ukrainians have only suffered 50k casualties out of an army of over a million men. They're fine.

>>64006176
Plants don't get diseases from animal corpses. In fact, the opposite tends to happen because fungi infests the body and that results in fertile soil.

>>64005181
it was written before AI was a thing

>>64005181
>>64006900
updated

>>64003870
Ukrainian missiles are supposed to go online by the end of this year. The sukhois will be the first things to go, I hope

>>64004878
>but he eats less than our command
kek

>>64004037
>one getting hit with a catastrophic blow doesn't guarantee everyone there dies
>anti-fatigue functionality is a given
>can easily lift and use weapons that would normally require being crew served
>can fit in buildings an APC, IFV, or tank would have to smash through a wall to get in
>could easily come with things like IVAS's capabilities and other HUD elements built in
>FAR more durable than even a well armored regular infantryman
>the ultimate in building breacher kit
I know hating power armor is basically a /k/ meme and has been for ages but it gets old quick. If you had access to power armor like Fallout's T-60 and it was functional you'd have to be retarded to refuse it. Biggest problem for power armor isn't GOTTA GO FAST, regular infantry aren't exactly fast either. The problem is the power supply to actually run the machine.

All that said even with power armor you're still gonna get whacked by drones and arty or step on a mine if you try to just waltz on through a well defended minefield. APCs, IFVs, and tanks usually aren't going to fare any better either. Without doing things like suppressing or destroying enemy arty, gaining at least temporary air superiority, and countering their recon and suicide drones enough for mine clearing vehicles to do their work you're just gonna die. Even with all that it's still not going to be a cakewalk.

To put it bluntly, Russia is fucked. They can't do any of the things they absolutely have to do to get a really solid breakthrough and the small. The Ukrainians seem to have learned their lessons and have the luxury of just sitting back and inflicting as many casualties as possible even if territory is slowly being lost. The war is effectively over unless something major happens that allows the Russians to make actual gains and stop being bled like a stuck pig for every inch. Basically the Ukrainians have to run out of everything or the Russians have to get resupplied.

>>64007230
>and the small
gains they're making are coming at horrific costs.

>>64005137
>lots
About 50? Not enough even for a single brigade.

>>64004920
I wish....

>>64006120
>he fell for the red zone meme
annon my grandparents used to live right on no mans land around Ieper
shit's fine, the fields can be de mined with tractors and some home made attachments
the frost will bring up an other bounty of shrapnel every year
every once in a while a tractor will hit some uxo with material loss to loss of life but life will go on at least farming wise
de mining any settlements and those wood lines will be a pain in the ass because you can't use machines and ordinance is harder to spot.
but you don't need access to those to rebuild

By the end of next year or so, the Ukrainian War becomes a longer Russian war than WW2.

Amazing that Russia has failed so badly to ramp up military production and manpower this this around.

>>64005636
>And technically they're right, Russia hasn't even begun to tap into Moscow's reserve of bodies.
i mean, by just the numbers yeah they're technically right. but one of the things no one mentions russia is running out of is workers. it has a crazy unemployment rate of like 2% because there isn't anyone thats left to work.
you can't keep pulling able bodied men off job sites into the meat grinder and expect your country to keep functioning without significant economic shrinkage.
coupled with their crackdowns on immigration im not sure what monke's plan really is here.

>>64008004
fuck wrong picture

>>64006120
>I wonder if we will see red zones like in france
dude. lmao.
it will never be clean.
>According to the Sécurité Civile, the French agency in charge of the land management of Zone Rouge, 300 to 700 more years at this current rate will be needed to clean the area completely.

>>64006357
hes probably thinking of the ww1 chemical weapons that left the land barren in some areas

>>64006120
Oxygenating your gray matter produces no intelligent thoughts.
Consider using any means at your disposal to permanently stop this process.

Three and a half years after the start of the war, if it were World War II, multiple army groups would have been marching towards East Prussia, and victory was already assured.

>>64008009
>wrong picture
No, I think that was a pretty solid one for the subject.

>>64003939
>>64003950
October 2023 to April 2024 was a wild ride.

>>64006330
>that pic
Fucking hell. Do they really not understand what's going on? Do they really not see that shit's fucked up.

>>64008161
THAT"S HOW OUR GRANDFATHERS WON THE WW@ HUUURRAAAAA

>>64005034
Well, I said multiple times that Russia will stop using armored vehicles during summer of 2025 since they simple will not have enough of them.
And if you are not sure whether I was correct you can refer to this picture >>64004896

>>64005240
They buy them from arabs you dumb fuck. SpaceX does not export directly to Russia. They also get disabled eventually, but SpaceX can't just geofence Ukraine because the Ukrainians are using Starlink much more than Russia is.

>>64008004
>im not sure what monke's plan really is here.
To hold on as long as he can before the inevitable political and economical collapse, pretty much. Even if the war stops right now there's no way the russian economy will be what it was before 2022 for at least a decade or two, and it wasn't good before either. The loss of a massive chunk of the young workforce and mass migration of people with education will be Russia's undoing in the future. Russians are like cattle, but I don't think there is anyone else besides Putin who can keep the federation going at this moment, because he got rid of anyone who might've had. It will be like the constitutional crisis of the 90s all over again.

>>64004896
Holy shit they're actually completely out of armor, aren't they?

>>64006176
Reminded my of this part from Lotr:
>And afterwards when all was over men returned and made a fire there and burned the carcase of the beast
>Green and long grew the grass on Snowmane’s Howe, but
ever black and bare was the ground where the beast was
burned.

>>64008270
>im not sure what monke's plan really is here.
1) KIEV IN 3 DAYS
2) ?????
3) PROFIT

>>64008004
by the end of this war the unemployment rate will be <1% and they will celebrate that like monkeys as if it was something to brag about

>64003507 (you)
all the points are false but you obviously already knew that

>>64004322
So in the past few days /pol/ has been gloating about the last fortress bastion of Ukraine either being on the verge of falling or being partially encircled AND THEN it will fall.

Are they right or is it Russian demoralization bots?

>>64008667
>demoralization bots
It's just /pol/ being /pol/ dude. They're just a bunch of retards who bet on a losing pony and are too stupid to realize you don't have to hold that bet when there's not actually any collateral down on it. They are desperate for "their" side to actually get some wins but don't realize there aren't any to be had just due to how many men and how much equipment the Ukrainians will kill/destroy before the city can fall only to be followed by the next year long grind of the Russians trying to leave it. They're balls deep in sunken cost on something they're not even involved in.
Meanwhile over here on /k/ we're still angry that we've been told Russia is so strong and capable with weapons that are totes 4 reel amazeballs all our fucking lives only to watch for years as Ukraine holds them to unbelievably costly tiny gains and drives several bits of Soviet armor to near extinction levels. We have been mercilessly blueballed by Russia's incredible incompetence but at least we're getting plenty of footage to watch those idiots pay for their unbelievably idiotic mistakes.
The war should've been over in no more than 6 months with a clear Russian victory if they really were the #2 military on earth. Instead they're just a bunch of #2 while the Ukrainians have proved themselves surprisingly competent and capable.

>>64006260
Speaking of Typhus, what fanciful plague has Russia inflicted on itself this year?
They started the war with Anthrax, then they moved on to Cholera and then last year they had Mouse Fever. I'm expecting something whimsically old-fashioned like Bubonic Plague or some kind of pox.

>>64004792
Dutch are the Jews of white people

>>64008270
I wonder where on the Tzar Tier list Putin will end up once all this is said and done?
He's got to be at least on par with Ivan the Terrible, but he could end up doing the ancestral bad habit of losing territory to Poland, so there's a better than zero chance that his position gets worse.

>>64008806
Russia losing Kaliningrad to Poland would be amusing finisher for Putin era.

>>64003507 (OP)
Dear Leader will lend a hand.

>>64008924
>even the cow is malnourished

>>64004992
>Just make it a gigantic nature reserve instead.
Need to blow up some nuclear reactors so nobody gets dumb ideas about exploiting the land. Look at the Zone.

>>64008933
and he carries a poop scoop. Must not waste fertilizer

>>64008980
Didn't stop russ... oh yeah good point.

>>64008987
On a second glance, it's worse than my first impression.
The average starved nork is tiny, and the cow is barely bigger, like how the fuck is that possible.

>>64005649
Humans move so slow.

>>64006350
why do they keep vanning people? just to kill more goy cattle?

anyone think its weird that they bussed out all the jews and are vanning all the non jews?

>>64008667
pol is never wrong and /k/ is mostly mossad trying to win the hearts and minds of the American military members.
The problem is military members go on pol and k is just a bunch of ukie jews talking to Israeli jews.

>>64003986
>The injured can fellate the casevac while being wheeled out of there

>>64003507 (OP)
The recent turdie recent chimp out around Pokrovsk has drastically weakened other sectors of the front. A few mad lads pulled out an amphibious operation that is just now hitting telegram but the vatniks are trying to keep a lid on it, as the consequences threaten to cut off Crimea, the bridge is now the only reliable transport route into Crimea for the orcs and things are starting to fold solidly in Ukraine’s favour.

>>64010356
I don't even know if this is a genuine post or an attempt at a parody.

>>64010512
>A few mad lads pulled out an amphibious operation that is just now hitting telegram
Share the details when you get them, please.

>>64004792
>replace them with dutch people
That's cruel and unusual punishment (for the rest of the world)
less dutch weirdos the better

>>64006330
>Our loss: 4,200 men
>RIP
kek

>>64006330
Imagine volunteering for this shit. Soldiers have always died for bullshit but dying like this in those numbers in 20 fucking 25 for just absolutely nothing, literally just imperial nostalgia of the KGB mafia that looted your country is actually so bleak.

>>64008667
Let's check ISW
>Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Pokrovsk direction on July 20 but did not make confirmed advances.
yeah they like to post that frontline repeatedly, claiming it's just about to fall somehow, but it's been amazingly static despite massive russian manpower and equipment losses for over a straight year of assaults. Pokrovsk is making Vuhledar look like a speed bump.

>>64010356
>why do they keep vanning people? just to kill more goy cattle?
"If they arrest people who draft dodge, it means that they are about to collapse."
Are they supposed to just ignore draft dodgers because otherwise people will think they are weak?

>>64010512
I’m sure this imaginary operation really changes everything.

>>64010981
>I’m sure this imaginary operation really changes everything.
Not at all. Kiev in 3 days as was planned.

>>64003553
Can't Ukraine just use helicopters, gliders or fucking cessnas to airdrop troops into Russia's back line at this point? It's high risk, but the slowly-bleed-the-bear tactic basically relies on the idea that a rerun of the Somme is acceptable in the face of hostile invasion. While their fibre-optic drones are still a threat, I don't think they have manpads available anymore that can take down anything in the air anymore, so the Russian skyline is almost all-clear at night.

They've been able to sneak into Russia using drone-planes before. Why not send a few into the occupied territory to scout their AD in the area before making an airial push?

>>64011053
Why bother when they can just walk over through belarus or some other leaky border?

Kek

>>64011249
>we didn't want the enemy capital anyway

>>64010997
>Whataboot Russia
Confirmation that Pokrovks is done.

>>64005747
How this shit is still on youtube? yet alone 100k subs?

>>64011249
>We WANTED to lose all of our Soviet stockpiles
What?

>>64003986
They need some big wheel energy up in that shit

>>64008270
>Putin 40k is real.

In the dark, homosexual future of Russia, there is only war.

>>64011351
It is the 21st century. For more than a dozen years The Monke has sat immobile in his bunker in the Kremlin. He is the Master of Ruskind by the will of banan, and master of a million vatniks by the might of his inexhaustible corruption. He is a manlet seething visibly with power from the Dark Age of Communism. He is the Simian Lord of the Steppes for whom a hundred mobiks are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly lose.

Yet even in his decrepit state, the Monke continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty rustbuckets cross the drone-infested miasma of the Black Sea, the only warm-water port to distant lands, their way lit by the Copenomican, the psychic manifestation of the Monke's will. Vast armies give battle in his name in uncounted villages. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Veh Deh Veh, the Blyat Marines, vodka-addled super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Rosgvardija and countless PMC forces, the ever vigilant FSB and the priests of the Russian Orthodoxy to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from Ukies, democracy, prosperity - and worse.

To be a vatnik in such times is to be one amongst untold millions. It is to live in the most dysfunctional and corrupt regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been embezzled, never to be re-aquired. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark present there is only banan. There is no peace amongst the steppes, only an eternity of dedovshchina and alcoholism, and the shrieking of thirsting Monke.

>>64008270
>To hold on as long as he can
this
putin gambled and lost, now he's borrowing from the casino to delay the inevitable

>>64011273
in two weeks

>>64008270
>constitutional crisis of the 90s all over again.
I'm hoping for more AIDS, no foreign AID and a BFF Chingchong invasion of Manchuria this time around

>>64011374
top 40keks

>>64011374
Screams of the T-14 is still my favorite version.

>>64010512
>A few mad lads pulled out an amphibious operation
Nah.
>threaten to cut off Crimea
Double nah.
I might've fallen for this horseshit two years ago. Not now.

>>64009009
Rabbu-rabbu this picture

>>64008667
>>64008751
OMG I'm BAKMOOOOOTing again! *pant, pant*

>>64011672
don't forget Kupiansk, the front is collapsing there for almost two years now

>>64011698
I just went looking around my folders, but I can't find the mega-collage of Mercouris / Burletic [whatever the alias is, for the guy with the bookcase background]...
... in something like a 9x9 panel megacut of EVERY single TouTube thumbnail he did, about Bakhmut's imminent collapse.
It was like a year of promising that Bakhmut had, in fact, already fallen. Insane.

>>64011724
i can't imagine memorials around backhmut when it gets liberated and restored by ukraine.
every street should have something like "2k subhumans died trying to take this corner".

>>64010496
>>64011346
CONCEPT OF OPERATION, BLOWJOB-CASEVAC:
1. Casualty, if conscious, applies teeth to Rescuer's cock as a signal to slow down, if the going rate of travel exacerbate injury.

2. If Casualty suction-force on Rescuer's penis stops, then Rescuer will know that Casualty has fallen unconscious. Casualty requires immediate attention.
a) remedial action: locate and approach nearest Chechen

>>64008004
don't worry once russia will conquer hoholstan the ukrainians will work for glorious mother russia replacing dead russian workers - putin probably

>>64008004
>coupled with their crackdowns on immigration
Meanwhile Russia plans to import about million pajeets.

>>64011053
But then what Anon?
This is kind of the same logic that was used in Hostomel where the Russians just assumed that the airborne troops would be able to hold on long enough for reinforcements coming via land to reinforce them.
Blindly yeeting men into the enemies backline with no further plan than just "break shit" just leads to all those men dying and the equipment being lost.

>>64011341
Copium is one hell of a drug.

>>64011351
>>64011374
https://youtu.be/mfBJT71gMY0

>>64010371
Found the pol user

>>64010371
>pol is never wrong and /k/ is mostly mossad
meds

>>64010371
>pol never wrong
>anyway
>da jooooooooos!
kek

>>64004223
This is it I think. A lightweight anti fpv device cheap enough to be fielded on every vehicle is the way to push past cheap drone swarms and increase the tempo of armor advance again. Shame that every system i have seen for taking down fpvs is giga expensive, big and heavy, thanks uncle mic

>>64011698
The disbarred Greek lawyer in UK is still putting out his videos (which all get similar amounts of views and always have the same commentors, often multiple posts) and STILL says it is over for Ukraine despite saying that for years. I don't think these people even believe it. They just know they get views if they post it.

Then again there are channels like The Military Show which do the same, except from Ukraine's perspective
>Ukraine CRUSHES Russian defences!!!!!!
Like okay. Don't do this sensationalist stuff for clicks.

>>64011831
Securing areas in Russian-controlled territory, for one. Maybe setting up medvac for Ukrainian civillians in the area if they weren't all slaughtered by the apes. Flexing on Russia that they have air-support and they don't. I don't have any real plan with it, but I'm just saying it's another option on their toolbelt they can use for preemptively countering offenses and regaining ground.
>nb4. drones replaced the need for that
Drones aren't making this war end any sooner.

>>64010833
>>64006330
thoughts and prayers

>>64011249
LMFAO
Who even wrote this? Smells like armchair copelord's style

>>64003923
I'm surprised by how well Ukraine's exports are holding up, too.

>>64012112
some of the prices actually fell compared to last year. domestic beer for example. i would know.

>>64012117
Ukieanon?

>>64011351
>>64011374
The USSR is in flames. Stalin's glorious vision for Homo Sovieticus is in ruins. His favoured son, Monke, has turned from his Communism's spectre and embraced Oligarchaos.

His armies, the mighty and redoubtable Russian Armed Forces, are locked in a brutal special military operation against the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Once, these Soviet warriors fought side by side as brothers, protecting the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and bringing the people of Europe back into the Russkiy Mir. Now they are divided.

Some Soviets remain loyal to the Tsar, whilst others have sided with the Warmaster Zelensky. Pre-eminent amongst them, the elite of their thousands-strong mobik are the VDV. Magnificent, superhuman beings, they are the crowning achievement of Soviet dedovschina tradition. Thrust into battle against one another, victory is uncertain for either side.

Airports are burning. At Hostomel and Chornobaivka, Zelensky dealt a vicious blow and three loyal Vozdushno Dsantnye Voyska were all but destroyed. War has begun, a conflict that will engulf the steppes in fire. Treachery and betrayal have usurped honour and nobility. Assassins lurk in every shadow. Armies are gathering. All must choose a side or die.

Zelensky musters his horde, Crimea itself the object of his wrath. Seated upon Golden Banan, Monke waits for his wayward son to return. But the true enemy is NATO, a primordial force that seeks to enslave mankind to democracy and prosperity.

The screams of the T-14, the pleas of the mobiks resound to the cruel laughter of Monke. Suffering and damnation await him should he fail and the war be lost.

The age of the Happiness of all Russkind has ended.
The Age of Monke has begun.

>>64012124
yeah.

>>64011273
>only 2 more yearz zizters!

>>64012112
>picrel

>>64012112
I fucking love blueberries. I prefer domestic ones but ukrainian ones are pretty good quality compared to some others that make their way here.

>>64012227
>I fucking love blueberries.
Oh, me too.
Not in the sense that you mean, though.

>>64003507 (OP)

>>64011698
Who is this dude?

>>64012161
Things will get better

>>64012258
looks like crests wasted their bayraktars and javelins early war and how nothing to destroy the tanks with now

>>64008004
>not sure what monke's plan really is here.
There isn't one.
He is not seeking tangible military or diplomatic goals now - it's about enjoying being center of attention, star of the show, arbiter of thousands of fates, a global shit-stirrer-in-chief.
If he can't be accepted, respected and treated (as what he perceives as)as equal by "cool boys club"(US/west in general) - he at least can inconvenience them.
Anyone who believes he is desperate/panicking, or "can't find an off ramp", or "hasn't been offered a good fair deal to stop the war" is dumb or delusional.
When initial plan of "kinda like crimea, but bigger" flopped maybe he panicked, but now - now he's living the dream, enjoying his life as never before.

>>64012355
yeah

>>64012289
things are already getting better :)

>>64012282

HistoryLegends.

The man who calculated Russian and Ukrainian KIA's with different methodologies and then declared Russia is taking next to none casualites while Ukraine is demolished and can't stay in the war. He did calculation a few years ago.

>>64012258
shit, they finally got the abandoomer
he finally ran out of vehicles to run screaming from at the first sign of conflict

>>64012404
He abandoned his post.

>>64003939
Official figures
>>64012258
OSINT figures

Very similar shapes. At the start you can see how it took a few months to get OPSEC going and limit the leaks about captured vehicles.

>>64003939
>>64012258
So WTF are they doing? Stockpiling tanks? Restocking destroyed divisions?

>>64012404
The abandooner is eternal.
Historically Russia has had a habit of arming their much smaller enemies.
Incompetence + bad morale = masses of abandoned equipment

>>64012805
Lol

>>64012808
So they've ran out and can't produce more fast enough? Ohnonononono zisters....

>>64012805
>WTF are they doing?
Losing.

>>64012805
Not using tanks, duh
Probably because:
1. They dont have that many left and are scared they could need them against other enemies (NATO, china, other post-soviets)
2. Having them blow up all the time looks bad and hurts morale
3. Their impact is not really worth the constant repairs/training new crews/supply
Honestly, should probably have stopped using them in large numbers after the kharkiv offensive when the 1st guards tank got clapped

>>64012805
Exploding

>>64012805
Refurbishing dwindling amounts of increasingly poor condition soviet surplus as fast as they can and throwing it at the front.

>>64004322
>This would require ever increasing signing bonuses, while the state is already failing to balance the budget this year.
Don't need to waste any money for a signing bonus/death compensation to the family if the bonus is given out in small portions over months (or at the end of your contract) or you tell the family their son is MIA/prisoner thus not eligible for compensation.

>>64003577
>ww1 bite and hold tactics but done by slavs on dirt bikes in 2025 ukraine
What a timeline.

>>64011806
oh yeah im sure a million indian "specialsts" are clamoring to go to russia as their first choice.
they're importing fish gutters and miners, look at their abysmal migration numbers from 2024 at the bottom of this article. id be surprised to find out more indian slave labor wants to go to russia as opposed to doing construction for the house of saud

>>64013253
>indian "specialsts"
>fish gutters and miners
What's the difference?

>>64013253
From Zar to Saar: the downfall of the mighty russian state

>>64013317
>From Zar to Saar: the downfall of the mighty russian state

>>64012844
couldn't they also go full retard and use it to open a front with either finland or latvia? They have been building up bases there for the past couple of months I've heared. Might also be a window of opportunity due to US retardation and still small size European troops covering the border.

>>64012376
godspeed anon

>>64012160
>The screams of the T-14
all 9 of them?

>>64013253
>migrants from non-cis countries
Some jokes write themselves.

>>64013383
>all 9 of them?
It's an ACKapella.

>>64013345
>couldn't they also go full retard and use it to open a front with either finland or latvia?
not really

most euro militaries aren't in a great shape right now
they're improving / ramping up production fast everywhere though
but even now
there not a chance that Russia would get far

the main threat from Russia was always
>getting steamrolled by mechanized / tank brigades
which is highly unlikely given Russia's losses
Europes air defense and air to air missiles were always more advanced
and as seen in Israel-Iran, S-300 can do jack shit against F-35 (which some euro countries already have)

>due to US retardation
yeah, no
an invasion on EU soil would instantly trigger EU Article 42 (5)
which would put Germany at war
which would put 35k american soldiers stationed there at war
the us gov is retarded, but not not THAT retarded

>and still small size European troops covering the border.
10k EU troops in the Baltics
+ US
+ their own military
+ ton of EU / US marines nearby wit dozens of ships / subs
+ in range for most euro air forces
again, the risk was being steamrolled on the ground (and an overestimation of Russias air defense capabilities)
which Russia is in no shape of doing

>>64013605
thanks for the answer, still wonder then to which units their tank production is going to. Haven't seen them be used on the frontline in months and with presumed numbers being produced haven;t seen them piled up somewhere.

>>64013903
>still wonder then to which units their tank production is going to
the refurbished or the new ones?

because neither are that much

upper estimates are max. 80 newly build T-90M in 2024
lower ones at 2 per month so ~24/y
with ~150 visually confirmed lost T-90M, that's not a lot

Uralvagonzavod is building a new factory (line)
but that won't open until November / December this year (and another one 2027)
which is why those crazy propaganda numbers of 300+ tanks/year are always
>coming 2026/27

>haven;t seen them piled up somewhere.
they "filled up" some bases around the country
among those one in Finland - which did produce some news
"filled up" because they borrowed these tanks and left the actual units without anything

>Haven't seen them be used on the frontline in months
uh huh??
Russia lost 2 t-90 in june, 1 und may, 4 in April and 4 in March, 3 in feb, 3 in January
this year. visually confirmed

that's 3/month on avg the the last 6 months
which would track 1:1 with the lower estimates of production

>>64013988
damn, that is a shite production to have as russia. Why did they fill up the bases in finland, just posturing?

>>64013345
>past couple of months
Putin has been struggling to cope with his new nato border for years. Lots of new infrastructure projects, not so much personnel nor tanks because it was all wasted in ukraine back in 2023.

I guess it's imaginable that he could go full retard and attempt suicide by cop just so he can tell his slaves that see we were fighting nato all along.
But I find it unlikely. Despite being the world's worst strategist and living in an information bubble brought on by his yes-men and corrupt regime, he isn't suicidal.

>>64014024
>the bases in finland
The what

>>64013317
What's a zar?

>>64014063
*near finland

>>64014097
Czar/tsar, presumably

>>64014063
Actually very interested in what ESL this poster was. Or if it just was American geography.

>>64011249
There's no way this is real, it's too funny

>>64013400

>>64014024
>Why did they fill up the bases in finland,
meant near Finland
>just posturing?
but no
Russian gov seems to see NATO as a thread
which I absolutely don't understand

and you generally want to maintain some border protection
(except with countries you're in a close military & economic partnership in)

from a strategic perspective (no matter the threat from your neighbors)
it's absolute catastrophic to deplete your major border units of tanks
they probably haven't had a proper exercise in 2y+ now

>>64013253
The plan is to import no less than 11 (yes, eleven) million pajeets and niggers by 2030, because that the level of labor shortage the government agencies project due to demography shit. Those additional 11 million migrants are needed to keep the current level of economy, i.e. to avoid an internal collapse.