How can you win a war when everything you need to win the war is made by your rival?

Was the US a manufacturing dwarf relative to Japan and Germany in 1939?

Nice hats!

Promising thread

>>64013829 (OP)
If US went on a war time economy you faggots would quake in fear.
Two years and we would be making steel and ships like it was 1944.
Imagine a US that exported absolutely no food except at premium price or in exchange for troops. No medicine. No electronics except to allies that committed to fight.
We have been asleep but if an initial strike by the Chinese didn't totally end us it would be Pearl Harbor 2.0.
US aid stopping for President's fight againt AIDS alone is said to result in 27 million more deaths annually.

>>64015149
US had biggest manufacturing in the world by a long shot pre WW2
Now on the other hand...

>>64013829 (OP)
>everything you need to win the war is made by your rival?
Plastic silverware and disposable clothes?

>>64015163
I wonder why do they need so much grains...

>>64015173
>grains
And yet their actual population is falling precipitously. Their tech is still behind the US. They have made amazing advances since being behind USSR/Russia even 2 decades ago, but they still behind the US and are flawed due to commie bureaucracy and literally never winning a war against a foerign power.
We should not underestimate them, but as it stands they would lose, although it would be unbelievably brutal, if short.

>>64015163
Don't worry, we will crush China. Their military only suppresses its own people. They are not a real military.

>>64015191
2 more weeks I guess? for your Pyrrhic (headcanon) victory?
>Their tech is still behind the US.
You're a genius! The US doesn't 'fear' the situation of current China vs the US but future China vs future US...

> and are flawed due to commie bureaucracy and literally never winning a war against a foerign power.
So flawed that your govement had to move the goalpost to the Moon, literally.

>>64015203
>we will crush China

but Anon, we are neither escalators nor factory machinery.

>>64015191
You missed his point about the grain being used to feed the pigs because chinks love bacon
>population
All Western countries are at a population freefall being supplemented by unlimited thirdie hordes. Do not think that lack of population growth is an "own" against China.

>>64015191
2 more weeks I guess? for your Pyrrhic (headcanon) victory?
>Their tech is still behind the US.
You're a genius! The US doesn't 'fear' the situation of current China vs the US but future China vs future US...

> and are flawed due to commie bureaucracy and literally never winning a war against a foerign power.
So flawed that your government had to move the goalpost to the Moon, literally.

>>64013829 (OP)
Our manufacturing sector is pretty bad, but we could literally starve out the Chinese. As it stands now, they would never have a war with us. We should reinvigorate our manufacturing so we can send all of the Chicoms to hell, where they belong.
>>64015204
>>64015240
Lmao nice bot faggot, can't even stop it from doubleposting.

>>64015235
Thay level on realianve is still a weakness.
If US buying shoes and cheap plastic toys from China is weakness, how is importing hundreds of thousands of tons of grain to obstenibly feed pigs not?

>>64015249
>Lmao nice bot faggot, can't even stop it from doubleposting.
4chan prompted an error message, some minutes afterward I retried it and the first post was actually posted.
Also, >you didn't answer
>ASSAM

Unimpressive.

Such brash displays of national might run counter to the fundamental principles of modesty and friendship that undergird Chinese society. The global community should not allow itself to fragment along regional lines and delve into the nihilism of arms races, for such activity is diplomatically toxic. NATO once again proves itself to be little more than fractious power bloc consisting of feeble former powers in the throes of hegemonic death.

China now raises its peaceful and loving hand to point the world towards a new dawn, a fresh and sunny chapter of history that will see the collective uplift of humanity. Today is the day China ushers in an era of world comity.

>>64015268
Fugg, I am buzzed.
Mea culpa.
The question persists. They rely on imports and exports to sustain theor fudged numbers. The US could shut them off and survive.

i'm sure there's studies out there that compare manufacturing capabilities of various nations in different conditions.

and with a quick perusal, it's said that china has 200 times the shipbuilding capacity than the us, for example.

>total war

>>64015281

>>64013829 (OP)
Yeah, i don’t see how china wins a war when basically all medical equipment and most other high-tech necessities they need to run their economy come from the west.

>>64015281
The Chinese are neither modest nor friendly with anyone, ever in their history. Not even within the Han ethnic group. There's something fundamentally perverse about Chinese culture that breeds such normalized sociopathy and callous disregard for their fellow man.

>>64015337
that just means nukes, and china has been rapidly expanding its numbers and capabilities. they're at ~600 deployed strategic warheads right now (likely closer to 1000 by more realistic estimates).

>>64015151
Historylet lmao

>>64015149
I hope the US can train welders and other skilled shipbuilders faster than China can spam build missiles but I'm not optimistic.
>>64015163
Even if you fast tracked rare earth and other mines, the environmentalists have already delayed mining and foundry projects for so long there's a loss of institutional knowledge.

And good luck getting zoomies to work any of these hard jobs.

>>64015219
Don't forget randomly exploding light cargo and the ever present bad drivers.

>>64015363
>muh nukes
200 million dead chinks is not enough for Tsar Pooh-bear to justify risking his own skin - you are all nothing but expendable meat drones in his eyes

>>64015380
anon, nukes are used beyond a certain point. that's why people have them. they don't build them for fun, and deterrence is only one reason.

>>64015396
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>64015411
your mom's blowjobs.

>>64013829 (OP)
Trumpedo's party is ramping up the propaganda huh?

>>64015420

>>64015396
Yeah, and for Xi that point is something that threatens his own personal grip on power
Losing 200 million slaves is nothing when he still has 1.2 billion left to worship and die for him, but if he nukes he loses power (and probably also his life) and that is worth more to him than the lives of every single chinese man, woman and child on earth put together

>>64015135
Strawberry shortcake

>>64013829 (OP)
If only the US had a supporting alliance network to augment their capabilities beyond anything a hypothetical peer to them could bring to the table, oh well.

>>64015151
Our eggs are measured. Are yours?

>>64015462
damn china has gotten to the point where the us need a entire coalition to match them? When did they get so powerful?

>>64013829 (OP)
This video goes over that subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxwF93wnRQo&t=418s

>>64015280
Lol

>>64015471
Gutter oil is China's most terrifying chemical weapon. The world has to work together to fight that.

>>64015350
Based. I wish i was a callous chinkoid ubermensch

>>64015347
Same as russia. Proxies

>>64015471
That is the great strength of the American Empire as opposed to other Empires such as the Bongs, building hardset long lasting alliances for mutual benefit that are more attractive than the alternative.

>>64015462
japan and oz recently noped out of a war with china over taiwan.

>>64015484
>japan
:<]

>>64015363
Nah couple MOABs would end this. And Chinese doctrine states to use nukes only after they got nuked first. They wouldn't do shit.

>>64015500
>They wouldn't do shit.
says increasingly concerned jeet for the 3rd time today.

>>64015149
I highly doubt that the US populace can stomach an actual wartime economy let alone the war against another power.
Maybe after a Pearl Harbor tier attack. Blowing up our ships is the only real motivator to bring us to war.

>>64015500
they would 100% respond with nuclear weapons for a single event that would cause nuclear weapon levels of casualties.

their doctrine is also more fluid than commonly thought in that they don't consider tactical nuclear weapons under the same umbrella as strategic. a lot has changed in the past several years with china and nukes.

>>64015149
>Two years and we would be making steel and ships like it was 1944.

Who would be making those?
No one in the US has the skills to make anything any more.
It's just a bunch of programmer bros and retail workers these days.
Do you know anyone working in manufacturing in the US?

>>64015203
>Don't worry, we will crush China. Their military only suppresses its own people. They are not a real military.

If that were true, why is the US nervously asking Japan and its other pacific allies for their plans in case of a war with China?

Is that how global superpowers act?

>>64015503
>hasnt done shit for 70 years
Pretty safe bet chink cowards wont do shit

>>64016567
Yes, several in fact. Most Americans don't live near manufacturing centers in our cities (economic shift), but the US still has a massive industrial sector that many countries would kill for (perks of being a big dog). Raw material processing is lower, but in a total war scenario all interest would turn to manufacturing and given our highly tech plans we'd be using automation lines to scale. The future Rosie the Riveter isn't going to be welding, they're going to be manning control centers welding multiple stations at once.

>>64016577
>solidifying plans is the same as nervously asking
One more final warning ping ping lmao

>>64015363
>uhh sorry u cant decapitation strike us, thats against the rules!

>>64016577
It's always fun to see shitskin/chink crying over the fact that the us has allies

If China cared they'd have joined the war in Ukraine, they're scared shitless by what happens to their economy in a war with NATO.

>>64016577
>Its cheating to ask the people that also hate me to join you against me!
Skill issue.

>>64015173
I figured China mostly ate fish and chicken and the pork and beef Chinese food was just a westernization of what they actually eat

>>64015268
Because they can get that grain from other places like Brazil.

>>64016590
>>64016597
>>64016628

I dunno. Seems like waning former empire shit to me.

>When shit goes down, you guys are going to back us up, r-right Japan? Australia?

That's a pretty appalling sign of weakness.

Tis coupled with the US inability to manufacture anything of value, the lack of young, healthy White men willing to die for pederastic Jewish leadership, all looking pretty grim for team Freedumbs.

Personally, as a Pollack, I think Article 5 is basically dead anyway, and we should be starting our own nuke program and a delivery vehicle that will reach Moscow. The US is not reliable.

>>64015483
>Fucks us over with F-35 prices
>Fucks everyone with taxes
Yeah, about that...

>>64016659
You'd be wrong. The Chinese love their pork and chicken. Like everywhere else in the world, beef was a luxury historically because of the amount of land required. And not everywhere had good fishing, although coastal people like the Cantonese ate a lot of it for obvious reasons.

>>64016671
You can't afford a nuke program, shut up.

>>64016671
I bet it does chinkshill, because youre a shill

>>64016687
We're gonna build it Klaus, once we toss out this German puppet Tusk.

>>64016697
No wonder you hate alliances. You want Europe divided too.

>>64016704
Well he isn't a pole, first off. He's just your classic shill sewing division as much as he can.

>>64016597
It's pretty grim when the value proposition of being an American ally is so questionable the US has to go to two of its more reliable allies to get reassurances that "you're in, right?".

For the Japanese, what's in it for them when the US has spent the last 40 years leaving them as the bag holder when the US fucks with the USD?

>>64016704
Europe was never united. The EU is just France and Germany dumping their shit onto others and making up rules favourable to their own economies.

Nothing says European unity like being in bed with Putin, buying his natural gas at a discount and then selling it to Poland and other victims, err, I mean allies as the "new green energy".

I'm really fucking glad Biden blew up that pipeline. Probably the only good thing he did.

>>64016714
Man those straws you're grasping at seem pretty thin today.

>>64016724
Shucks, you sure have a lot to say despite having literally ZERO arguments.

Why don't you just sit in your corner, and shut the fuck up, let the adults speak.

>>64016714
>For the Japanese, what's in it for them
Fucking over China, same with South Korea and the Philipenes. This is like the police deputizing neighbors to handle the local angry schizo, everyone wants the Chinese problem gone.

>>64016724
I see you pay no attention to bond markets

>>64016722
Post outlet.

>>64016727
Don't need to argue, your points are laughably retarded enough on their own.

>>64016728
Why? "Chinese oppression" is quickly looking like that Napoleonic political cartoon of British tyranny vs French liberte. It's not like the Cold War where it was pretty obvious from the outside perspective that your life would be worse in the Soviet bloc.

>>64013829 (OP)
Retarded thread. The USA is the #2 manufacturer in the world, China wins because they crank out cheap plastic crap. You want a pacemaker or jet? Buy American

>>64016742
>no u see everyone wants gutter oil bat soup with lead paint

>>64016742
Implessive

>>64015529
>I highly doubt that the US populace can stomach an actual wartime economy let alone the war against another power.
what will they do? move?

>>64015535
Oh god, the rape of nankin would look like an afternoon in Disneyland compared to the Biblical comeuppance them firing a nuke would cause. It would basically be China vs the entire world at that point

>>64016670
hmm interesting, why dont they do that right now?

>>64016762
A lot of these wumao faggots bend over backwards to criticize the US and avoid massive flaws in China. When you need to brag about your ability to import food from Brazil you’re truly fucked as a nation.

>>64016749
Being forced to let America skim off the top through the slow, archaic SWIFT system instead of using CIPS is a courtesy to the US. But the US can only be so nakedly exploitative (and is pushing the limit) before people start looking at alternatives. You can only enshittify the experience of working in a system rigged in your favor so much when there are alternatives. And unlike the Soviet Union, Winnie the Pooh does not actually force you to adopt insane economic models like it forced on Eastern Europe.

>>64016775
implying partnerships with china come with no strings.
lmao.

>>64016775
>again, lead paint for children is perfectly valid

>>64013829 (OP)
Realistically, you avoid wars like that.

If you choose not to, there is occasionally the possibility of a Barbarossa type campaign. I think Barbarossa could have actually worked, but it's a very dicey gamble either way

>>64016732
>I see you pay no attention to bond markets

>Expecting blue-collar nigg/k/er to know what the debt markets are..

>>64016775
Imagine being so retarded you think China is a trustworthy economic partner that negotiates in good faith

>>64016742
then you look at how China treats its neighbors to have an idea of how they act when they are in a position of power, no one wants a World like that

>>64015477
Just send in the Indians. They can survive Chinese gutter oil and spread their own diseases with impunity.
The real gain for the world is for the West to pitch India and China against one another in an incredibly bloody and brutal conflict that wipes out 99.9% of Asia's population and in the meantime, everyone just leaves Africa to starve while muzzies get their shit rocked after being allowed to genocide the big nose tribe.
The loss of life would be incredibly beneficial and the rebound across the world in biodiversity would be incredible.

>>64016762
They are doing that right now because of LIBERATION DAY. Buying American produce they could get from the rest of the world was a courtesy they haven't needed to do for a long time.

Anything they might actually want is under export controls.

>>64016787
Based moderate take

>>64016670
Brazil is not a reliable chinese ally, we have a commie in power today, in a couple years it could be another anti-china right winger, a large portion of the population actively despises China and we would never go to a shooting war against the US to keep supplying them.

>>64016785
I don't believe thirdies crying "exploitation" when they self inflict monetary crises are to be taken seriously. The Chinaman didn't screw you, you did.

>>64016790
>we've been paying more as a courtesy

>>64016733
Post brown hands to confirm you are a genuine American, Pedro.

>>64016737
I told you to sit in the corner, and BE QUIET.

>>64016794
Agricultural imports are pretty fungible in where they can be sources, unlike GPUs and jet turbines.

>>64013829 (OP)
There won't be a total war between major powers. Too much to lose over petty ideas and differences.

>>64016825
>there is an infinite supply of food we can purchase from anywhere at any time and have the time to wait for it to be sourced
bro. cutting off a supply of gpu and jets isn't going to make the populace starve.

>>64016816
ooo shaking lmao go back to pol, retard

>>64016812
Polack, more like /pol/ack, opinion disregarded.

>>64016708
He could be a Confederation fag, they're the type to put zegroid interests above their own. Or a bot.

>>64016812
>wooden outlet
Casus Belli for Germans

>>64016567
They exist. I worked on a CNC and the guy across from me was running a massive vertical mill from 1939 because it was the only thing they could get to size blanks down to 36" diameter without spending a bunch. And it still worked.
Not only did that guy know how to run American equipment that was made in the time of his grandfather, I hovered any chance I got to learn how that equipment that was made before my great-grandfather worked.
I wanted just 3 days to devote to that slow, fat, angry, noisy, thirsty bitch. It was beautiful. Like Admiral Kuznetsov, but actually cared for.
Bottom line; US goes on war economy; ships are shooting out like pups from a bitch.
This current mentality of
>Lets' make 3, then uprgrade, then maybe upgrade or start a new class even
That is dead. Look at the Fletcher class.

>>64016827
It's not petty ideas and differences.
Wars between major powers are to determine who sits where in the global hierarchy of capital flows and trade, you absolute illiterate Yankee dickweed.

The Chinks have now noticed that Americans don't produce anything of value, and are a waning military and industrial power (these two go hand in hand, BTW).

Americans have been getting fat and wealthy from Chinese productivity and zeal to improve for the past 40 years. Why should Americans get to apply and enjoy delicious profit margins on the toil of the Chinese worker?
What right do US faggot shareholders in Apple have to charge 20% margins on devices made WHOLLY in China by Chinese workers via Chinese industry.

The Chinese have noticed and they are calling this bluff. Putin also noticed US weakness and that's why he dared to start the war in Ukraine (which then exploded in his fat Mongolian face, lmao).


tl;dr
The US is bluffing, China is calling it.

>>64016855
I mean, foreign shills and their networks have gotten better since the start of russia's current self destruction and have changed mo's several times. I'm sure they've invested heavily in failed western men since the hindustanis are just bad at it.

>>64016859
>They exist.

Dying breed and no one is training to replace them.

A lot of smart people are starting to realize that without manufacturing ONSHORE, you are absolute dogshit that have no ability to shape the future and one's destiny, so Trump has to be lauded for at least TRYING to get the US on the right path.

Check out this cool video of a US-based Youtuber who tried agonizingly and failed to manufacture a BBQ scrubber in the USA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTGwcHQfLY

Our fate is tied to America, as a Pollak, but I fear the Jews have done too much damage for the US to be able to recover at this stage.

>>64016862
>don't produce
>yet steals from them
Curious

>>64016862
>lead painted kids toys is valuable production to chinks
grim

>>64016876
the thing that always makes laugh about this is tradies pretend no one can ever learn how to swing a hammer.
you know what happens in that picture? suddenly all the coders pick up hammers and you have too many carpenters.

>>64016862
If only there was some finna kinda Partnership Across the Pacific to further entrench Australia, Japan, SEA, etc into the American system. Something like that would never be torpedoed by resentful losers, who were still losers after the dust settled.

>>64016885
>Lead painted kids toys

Show me something at your local Home Depot or Walmart that ISN'T made in China?

More importantly, China produces most of the CAPITAL GOODs, which are those machines that allow one to produce other machines and get assembly lines going.

You faggots are in for a very rude awakening if you don't wake up soon.

>>64016879
Yes, this is what happens when you're the reserve currency. You get to export your inflation and collect rents when people use your financial services.

>>64016862
>China wont fuck up like Russia I swear
Lol lmao

>>64016894
>Muh partnership

They are much more dependent on Chinese industry and the tether to America is merely some words scribbled down on a sheet. China's gravity will pull those countries away (except for maybe Australia).

>>64016903
Home Depot shit is for home improvement side projects lmao.

>>64016876
>seeee china produces shit stuff cheap
>china stronk!
kek

>>64016903
The best time to start learning Mandarin was 10 years ago, the next best time is now because within our lifetime, just as you currently need to read English to keep up with STEM research, you're going to need to read Chinese.

>Hapamutt simping for a paper tiger

>>64016862
China fights its "war" in their factories because is their best way to influence the rest, that the only way they can create an alternate sphere of influence (international currency, financing, trade and diplomacy). Soviets tried something similar but they were too belligerents and violent to be convincing.
And that "war" isn't war. It's simple competition, it's a war only for people trying to lure China into using violence because they aren'tt the best in that area and will destroy any credibility they've been able to build during the past 40 years.

>China will win against TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO and stealth... because they just will!
Let me wake you up, if the US military goes to war against China, there will be no slow burn attritional warfare. The USA has every reason to end the conflict as quickly as possible.

>>64016926
>chinese scientific papers
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA might as well read tabloids

>>64016909
China won't be conducting a clumsy land invasion and sending HOMO riot police squads to capture the enemy capital, lmao.

Chinese industry dwarfs America, especially when it comes to shipbuilding.

I think the Chinese will announce Taiwan's integration and the US seeing as it can't project enough force in the Pacific, will cede.

But hey, at least Israel got what it wanted, right? It may have cost the US its credibility as a global power, but who cares about that.

>>64015268
Because pig meat is not required to survive.
Cheap plastic DJI drones turn into a million FPV's a month at the snap of a finger.

>>64016945
How is China going to bully 11 Carrier fleets?

>>64016918
Precisely.
Two of America's largest retailers survive by skimming off profits from Chinese production.

Now are you starting to understand how hopelessly late it is for you?

>>64016916
I'm saying that most of the complaints about Asia- Pacific and fears about getting ditched for Implessive Land would be ameliorated if Trump hadn't blown up TPP 10 years ago.

>>64016950
How good is China's missile defense systems? You realize the US is going to target China's industry if war breaks out right?

>>64016567
so did they just download 1000 (ONE THOUSAND) F-35s into existence?

>>64016955
How are 10 ounce hammers that take 10 months to arrive in the US going to help China win the short and violent air war?

>>64016862
>made wholly in china
that's just the thing, chinkshill, almost nothing is made wholly in china.
you are our little wageslaves and you assemble the components.
you do not have the precision or engineering talent to make those components themselves, they all come from other parts of asia or the west.

>>64016945
>gets buckbroke by pelosi
China won't do shit about taiwan and if they do, they'll die in the millions as we laugh lmao

>>64016926
wildest brown cope ive read all week. english is the most popular 2nd language for kids to learn in school by a large margine. they taking it to help us learn mandarin? lmao.

>>64016942
Oh boy, I love to see IJN-esque wishful thinking from the US Navy.

>>64016952
US carrier fleets are antiquated and floating hostage barges that the Chinese can leverage to negotiate from a stronger position.

The US cannot overcome Chinese Naval and missile superiority along China's coast.

It's a numbers game, and they have them.

>>64016973
Comparing your enemy to Japan when you're China is wild.

>>64016903
>which are those machines that allow one to produce other machines and get assembly lines going.
these machines will be the first to get smuggled out of china into any SEA country to resume production by unscrupulous chinese businessmen.
the production of cheap trash will be disrupted by a few weeks.

>>64016973
>he says with a navy that regularly loses submarines in the easy mode of the ocean

>>64016978
>Muh DJI drones will take on F35s on carriers
Okay Im beating up a child, this isnt fun.

>>64016945
>chinese industry dwarfs america
in the slaves doing final assembly and easily replaced plastic molding scene, sure

anyway, this post is just chink fantasy nr. 42561 because you probably sit in your own filth all day thinking about and salivating over the overturning of le perfidious west that will never come, because you have an inferiority complex and you think that maybe you won't be a fucking loser anymore in the "new world" where china takes center stage.

>>64016964
How long did it take to make those 1,000 F-35s and how many factories scattered all over the world were needed as sub-contractors to assemble those planes?

The USA is a manufacturing cripple.
Nations that don't manufacture, simply don't count.

Just a universal truth.

>>64016971
Because it's the language of research and business, because the GBP and USD were the reserve currency. When you aren't top dog, you gotta learn the top dog's language to make money and stay up to date with trends and research.

Why do you think the lingua franca didn't stay French?

>>64016978
>chinese superiority
they don't have it, and never did, sorry to break it to you.

>>64017000
How long is it going to take China to.take out 1000 F35s?

>>64016997
>in the slaves doing final assembly and easily replaced plastic molding scene, sure

In cars, in planes, rocket motors, barrels, steel, AI chips, drones, electronics AND all the shit in your Walmart.

>>64017003
>The language everyone knows will just change to Chinese... because it just will!
Lol, you have to learn English to even shit talk us.

>>64017000
>how many subcontractors
because it's such an incredibly advanced design, even the US would struggle to do it all themselves. china has no chance in hell of ever producing anything like the F35.

In all simulations and wargames US + allies win against China every single time, this is their one win condition, to separate the US from its allies, everything boils down to this.

>>64017005
F-35s take themselves out.
Operationally disabled after 7 days of back to back combat sorties.

There would be no F-35s within 2 weeks of a major war.
All the heavy lifting would fall back on the F-15Cs and Es.

>>64016978
>it's a numbers game
actually it's not, against the west it's a
>we annihalate all your shit and confuse your C&C so much that most of you panic and don't know what to do
we don't do attritional wars, because we don't suck lol.

>>64017011
>It's such an advanced design, we need HELP from TURKEY and CANADA

Lel
Lmao even

>>64017008
>AI chips
Do not come from china lol, and neither do most of the important parts of the things listed. Trash quality disposable goods do tho.

>>64016997
>the slaves doing final assembly and easily replaced plastic molding scene, sure
You are so wrong it is not even funny. And these are the retards running the DoD and State Department now.

>>64017019
So after a week of skullfucking the mainland you'll be smug about the maintenance costs, okay. You can brag to the US marines handing out humanitarian aid that our F35s broke their dick off inside Xi's ass.

>the butthurt spam after the video of their gov
*sigh*
>it doesn't matter when you read this

>>64016973
>Oh boy, I love to see IJN-esque wishful thinking from the US Navy.

Yep.
But I suspect Elbridge Colby already knows they can't win with China along their coast.

>>64017019
You think the Russians have better upkeep than the US?

>>64017019
>F-35s take themselves out.
talk about wishful thinking wumao

>>64017030
>Do not come from china lol,

They most certainly do.
And they're not that far off from Nvidia's flagship chips.
In fact, a lot of people are scared how quickly the Chinese were able to overcome their deficiencies in chip design.

>>64017008
>in cars
only in china
>in planes
only in china
>rocket motors
only in china
>barrels
only in china
>steel
basically the only thing that isn't plastic molds that would take longer than a few months to replace with another source that isn't china, still pretty simplistic, and the only reason we do it in china is because it's cheap.
>AI chips
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, no.
>drones
final assembly, sure
>electronics
nope
>and all the shit in your wallmart
yeah, all the cheap, low QA plastic shit that would literally take a few weeks to move to another poor shithole.
again, you're living vicariously through a china that doesn't exist, salivating over and fantasizing about a western collapse that won't happen, because you are extremely desperate and think you'd have a place in a "new world"
newsflash kid, you'd still be a fucking loser in a china dominated world, only then your schizo fits wouldn't be tolerated and you'd be banned from public transport if you acted like you do in this thread.

>>64017000
>>64017025
if you think a distributed, resilient chain of production is a downside, you are fucking moron

>>64017048
>roooook our trash gpus you cant get anyway you will not get
kek

>>64017056
Sure, because all of them are producing their own neodymium.

>>64017048
Still waiting on a chink graphics card worth a damn, the jeets outdo China.

>>64017025
>subcontractors specialized in different part processes that would be difficult to all localize into one country
yep.
china is fucked because they're completely incapable of doing half of any of these parts with the quality assurance required to make it work, which is why their current aircraft aren't properly stealthy even though they have le angles and everything.
little sub-1 mm divets and bumps in an airframe will disqualify you immediately from being able to build a stealth jet, and china is stuck in that boat.

>>64017035
>if you make fun of my schizo fantasies you're in the DoD
again, you're a fucking loser who shills for china on /k/, you're not important enough to get the DoD's attention.

>>64017053
>would literally take a few weeks to move to another poor shithole.
It would take more time. The operation that Toyota and Casio have in Thailand took years.

And why exactly would they be keen to work with Clapistanis when Clapistan tried to impose 90% tariffs on them for the """"crime"""" of selling T-shirts to the US but not being able to afford American luxury goods.

>>64017035
Amerigolems should be the LAST ones lecturing anyone about manufacturing.

The Chinese have factories that run 24/7. They're called dark factories because there are no people within them besides a small crew of technicians monitoring the machines running.

These are your nightmares, and you can't help but keep buying their stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYkgXkoEBzg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxq5TOnB7N0

What's even scarier is that the average American doesn't even know how badly outmatched and behind they really are.

>>64016869
Looking at the further posts it might just also be someone taking the piss. Or at least I'd like to assume nobody's that retarded.

>>64017077
>it would takea more time becuz
>it just woulda okray?

>>64017048
>A LOT OF PEOPRE ARRE SCALED AND IMPLESSED BY CHINA
lol this is so sad, i almost can't bear to watch you go through another melty like this.

>>64017079
How are these factories supposed to survive the first 72 hours of an air war against stealth tech?

>>64017079
I agree with you. The main reason I am so bullish on China is because the IMPLESSIVE posters reveal themselves to live in an alternate universe with how completely detached from the realities of business and trade their posts are.

Unfortunately, cope merchants seem to have taken over the foreign policy of the Trump administration. The kind of people who want to pretend it's still 1995-2005.

>>64017056
Why didn't they use resilient, distributed production chains during WW2 to make Sherman tanks or B-25s?

Oh right, because ships get attacked and sunk during world wars...

This idiot is still running on globalization is based talking points as if it were 1998 or 2002... Lmao.
This is the post-globalization age we are now in.

>>64017087
Oh no, this is just stage one. Melty comes later. I'm pretty sure this is part of his cuck humiliation fetish, he's gotta get nice and mocked first.

>>64017079
> doesn't even know
The cattle in the slaughterhouse tastes better in that way. Someone has to pay those $36 trillion and growing!

>>64017079
>amerigolems
and the mask slips, and he shows that he's just here to be mad and get validation from a /k/ that will never give it to him.
do something about the mental illness causing your contrarianism, go visit a doctor or a psych.

>>64017100
China cant survive the air war against the US, they already lost any war they start.

>>64017085
It would take more time because it did take more time, retard. Are you going to continue revealing your ignorance about how the world actually works with every post? There's no world where the projects you're describing get done in a quarter.

>>64017079
and in 2 years you're going to see all these cars sitting in an abandoned parking lot because nobody bought them LMAO.

>>64017089
By sinking the 5,000-man hostage barges floating a few hundred kms from Chinese shores?

Not to mention stealth really isn't a factor any more with AI-enabled pattern recognition software running on modern multi-spectral radars.

If it has the signature of a large insect but is at 40,000 ft and moving at Mach .90 then it's probably not an insect.

>>64017113
>all these cars sitting in an abandoned parking lot because nobody bought them
like teslas in current day?

>>64017112
Please keepa revearing your own letardation chinkshill

>>64017107
The US can launch an air war over China the same way China can launch a maritime assault on the US West Coast.

Pure fiction.

>>64017121
>this post is powered by copium golden rabbit hump edition

>>64017121
>Open up the war to ICBMs since Americans are seeing red
Also theres 10 more carriers coming for your bussy.

>>64017122
no, like chink cars already have been for a long time.
china has used aggressive legislation to try to force their shitty car brands to be top dog in china, and they now seethe that other countries are doing the same to them.

>>64017113
Like all those US TRUGGs sitting and rotting because no one wants bad vehicles that cost 100K?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecjULmttAE0

>>64017127
>the US can't -ACK
>>64017121
>s-stealth isn't a factor anymore
sour grapes lel.
>c-carriers are o-obsolete and worthless, so is stealth, which is why we're trying and failing so hard to copy them!

>>64017127
>chinks actually believe this
Its cute how the shills swapped to china after the russians fell apart

>>64017130
>>64017131

Is that why the USN is planning on pulling carriers away from Taiwan in the event of a war?

>https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-navy-aircraft-carriers-face-ride-or-die-moment-212003

>lol we will just kill thousands of Americans to get you to back down
Very WW2 Japan there Chang.

>>64017144
Are you dumb? Of course we're not going to sit and let you take them out, you're gonna get blown up at extreme range and you will seethe.

>>64017144
>national interest
kek helmettard got a new script to shill before his meltie

>>64017144
I trust the same PACCOM whose DDGs keep hitting things because Shaniqua was on her break for maintaining their radars to stop a Chinese saturation strike. This is the fighting force I will bet on to rule the waves.

>>64017105
The US is run by Jews and also the reason for the decline of the US, it's not even up for debate.

I find it amusing how much it hurts you to admit this every time.
That why I love to rub it in and will continue to do so.

>Very WW2 Japan there Chang.
You know what is different from ww2?
American demogaphics and manufacturing, i am sure this will have no impact whatsoever on the outcome....kek.

>>64017175
It's pretty funny. The USN has become the IJN, and the PLAN has become the USN c. 1940.

>>64017175
Is that why China is absolutely panicking over their birthrates? Andrew Gonzales at least can swing a hammer even if hes a mutt.

>>64017159
>the US is run by jews
and china is run by pretend-jews, i fail to see your point.
>i find it amusing
you don't find anything amusing, you're raging at your screen ITT right now lel.
nobody cares about your obsessions, chinkshill, you're here to be our food, our entertainment, until you can't take the embarrassment anymore and slink away, then start the whole thing all over again.
no amount of minor annoyance, inconvenience, or BBC posting will ever unloser any of you people, /k/ lives for free in your head for the rest of eternity and that's good enough for me.

>1940 USN
The US had 7 blue water carriers in 1940 chinkcel.

Damn amerimutts are getting bodied lately on this board and the moderators here are feds.
Really telling of their decline.

>>64017190
>Raped and crying for the jannies
They can't save you

>>64017190
>ban evades to seethe
Which tard is it today?

>>64017190
>d-damn amerimutts are getting bodied
>be thirdie shill
lose every single argument
>get bootyblasted
>samefag as an imaginary friend telling you how hard you rekt those stupid 4channers
embarrassing behaviour.

>>64017202
He did this shit yesterday too lol

>>64016962
The US doesn't have enough missiles.

>>64017183
>you don't find anything amusing, you're raging at your screen ITT right now lel.

Lmao, why would I be upset that a country which I don't belong to is being run into the ground by Jews?

I could tell by your helpless internet shouting that you feel powerless and hopeless that the Jews hold ALL of the money and power in the USA. Sucks for you.

The good thing about the decline of the US is that Israel at least will get wiped out by hordes of angry sand niggers.

>>64017210
these people are literally mentally underdeveloped, almost like toddlers.
patting himself on the back like this is literally what i'd expect my brother's 8 yearold kid to do if he were losing an argument online.

>>64016775
SEPA mogs SWIFT. Stablecoins mog all banking entirely.

>>64017211
Delusional, the US spends more on maintaining missiles alone than China spends on its air force.

>>64017211
lol, lmao even

>>64017216
>why would i be upset
because you're upset, and everyone can see it, there's a million different why's, but the biggest one is that you're just a resentful loser who feels angry he failed at life and want to take it out on something, anything.
again, if china were the topdogs (lol) you'd still be a fucking loser.

>>64017225
No I find it funny and it amuses me how much it hurts Amerilards, because a lot of their identity is based on the perception of military power which has been hijacked by wealthy Jews.

If you want to run the US, just become a billionaire donor like the Jews, and maybe you can make a difference, but something about the shameful masturbation sessions and mis-allocating time to yelling on the internet tells me that you don't have what it takes to outwit the Jews.

>>64017003
chinese is a fucking horrible language to do business in you dope. no one, certainly not the people of the languages much closer to english than chinese, are going to bother trying to learn that trash.

>>64017220
Maintaining those missiles with Chinese components lol. I'm sure those components will be available in a war, and I'm sure those strikes will put the PLAN down like the Houthis.

>>64017237
>it all comes back to a poltard seething about da joooooooos
lol what a fucking idiot

>>64017237
>no i find it funny
nah, you don't, saying it over and over again is not convincing.
>NOOO I'M SMUG I'M SMUG I'M HAPPY
the fact that you so desperately want me to be convinced of this is having the opposite effect lel, you're eternally mad and seething, didn't read the rest of your post.

>>64017260
Absolute chink delusions lmao

>>64017261
>DA JOOS

See, you're so afraid of your owners you don't even dare SPELL their tribal name correctly on an anonymous masturbation forum.

Lmao

BUCK

FUCKING

BROKEN

>>64017293
>is too socially retarded to understand da jooz is an impression of himself
>comes up with schizo fantasy that insists it's because he's afraid of saying jews or kikes
lol.
i don't even like jews but neurotic, fidgety, spamming schizo's get rightfully mocked into the ground on every board, nobody likes you.

>>64017293
You're literally one of their golems, doing everything in your power to undermine and insult white people.

>>64017304
>i don't even like jews

That's a punishable crime.
Which state are you in Amerigolem?

>>64017293
You are so fucking retarded you mistake my mockery of your insane schizobabble as fear. Go back to pol thirdie lmao

>>64017293
>Buck broken
Aren't you supposed to be having a schizo meltdown in /hg/?

>>64017260
>Like the Houthis
So China plans on abandoning the surface?

>>64017309
>t-that is a punishable crime
why did you sidestep what i just said, mentally ill fidgety chinkshill?
notice how you type very feminine, very avoidant and passive-aggressive, almost like a woman, you can't handle it lmao.
>amerigolem
i'm not even american, i'm a euro, and yet americans still are whiter than you, very much unlike you, who is a mentally ill nigger or other brownoid from the reddit gateway (/pol/)

>>64017337
>Kvetching this hard
>I'm a Euro

Mhhmmm