The humans in Avatar are sick of RDAs constant fuck-ups - how would you solve the Na'Vi problem ONCE AND FOR ALL?

Orbital strike their trees I guess

Betray the human race for her.

>>64061598 (OP)
Sex

>>64061601
With modern military tech otherwise it would be too easy.

>>64061598 (OP)
1. We can already build artificial versions of them so we clearly understand their biochemistry on a fundamental level
2. Their biosphere isn't compatible with ours, so humans need to wear protective gear whilst on the surface anyway
3. We're only interested in the mineral resources

With this in mind, an engineered bioweapon seems the most obvious course of action.

>>64061619
Bioweapons and WMDs out of the picture - how would you go about it?

>>64061610
Shouldn't it be with insetting tech?

>>64061622
>Bioweapons and WMDs out of the picture
But why? Their planet only matters as a mineral source.

>>64061628
>But why? Their planet only matters as a mineral source.
Well firstly we HAVE to assume humans are gonna eventually colonize the place so no bioweapons and WMDS.

>>64061622
Napalm sticks to Na'vi

>The humans in Avatar are sick of RDAs constant fuck-ups - how would you solve the Na'Vi problem ONCE AND FOR ALL

>>64061619 mentioned bioweapons, which I'm good for, but there were organic resources (that space whale spermaceti that grants immortality in the second movie) we might want.

I asked several A.I. if RDA subcontracted out parcels of Pandora to the likes of Weyland-Yutani, Cyberdyne Systems, Tetravaal, Omni-Consumer Products, InGen, Tyrell-Wallace, etc. and they took their respective tech and went to town, much like how Iraq was CPA'ed to oblivion in the 2000s, what the effects would be.

The results were awesome.

I think I also snatched the combat jackets from the Mimic War (which, in our timeline, never happened thanks to Tom Cruise killing the Omega) and the APUs from Matrix 2 were aiding the AMP suits (shared 30 mm cannon ammo) as a croossover thing.

It was even more awesome.

>>64061622

You pick a tribe most likely to turn on the others, prop them up into power and support a planetwide civil war. Reproduce with the Navi that remain and create a sustainable race of Navi/Avatar Hybrids to take up as the ruling class.

Pretty much what it looks like they're going to try and do in the trailers, but I'm sure Cameron will be much less nuanced about it, he'll write something like this:

>Quatritch trolls up to fire bitch
>"Wellll I can see you folk ain't the biggest fans of salad around here..."
>hands her the flamethrower from the trailer and lets her go wild.
>"Hows about I teach you how to barbeque instead?"

I can see the shit writing in my head I can SEE IT.

>>64061628
>But why? Their planet only matters as a mineral source.
In the second movie the humans begin working towards terraforming the planet because Earth supposedly has its days counted so there is an interest in not using WMDs.

>>64061634
The napalm CRAVES blue cave people.
>>64061635
The combat jackets are very impractical IMO - many areas of the armour aren't armored protected by the arrows. They are mostly exoskeletons designed to multiply strength.

>>64061632
But the planets biome is already hoarirle to humans, it would need terraforming anyway to colonize it. The only way to avoid that is to build domes and wear protective equipment outside in which case those weapons wouldn't change anything either.

>>64061635
>organic resources (that space whale spermaceti that grants immortality in the second movie)
Good to know, never watched the 2nd one. In that case the question is if biological agents tailored to the Na'vi would be narrow enough not to affect relevant resources.

>>64061647
You can't forget Eywa - the mind control hivemind lifeform - it controlled ALL fauna on the planet during the final battle in the first movie.

Release xenomorphs. Once the navi are dead we can clear the planet without the writers fucking us over all the time.

>>64061632
See point 2 >>64061619 you gelatinous loon

Also the "but what about terraforming" argument doesn't matter because they have to put people in to hibernation for the journey. So spending extra time as a corpsicle until the air is breathable doesn't fucking matter

>>64061650
Great, so infect that with a bioweapon. Even fucking simpler.

>>64061598 (OP)
crash one of the interstellar ships into the hometree with no survivors. accidents happen, right?
>>64061610
tsar bomb

Give them Internet access and wait 20 years

>>64061647
>>64061650
Do what they did in the 2nd to build the city using starships to burn the terrain on isolated islands and archipelagos to maintain permanent terrestrial presence. Resource extraction operations will follow the same protocol with the primary method of operation being strip mining used to support construction of orbital infrastructure. Terrain burning alongside geographical choke points will also be used to create isolated pockets of territory to be pacified and used as either research preserves or testbeds for eco-engineering.

>>64061598 (OP)
Whiskey and Cholera infected blankets

Why should I?

>>64061650
Seems to me that Eywa has a massive cybersecurity problem.

I mean, we see that the various creatures on Pandora can form a sort of mental link via those organic USB cable head-tail things. Now, since they also have a wireless connection to the planetary hivemind, what would happen if you captured one of these animals and used that neural connection point to wire it into a computer system? Even if you couldn't actually hack into the hivemind, wouldn't it be possible to just pump massive amounts of "noise" signal into the captured creature's brain, and basically do a techno-psychic DDOS attack on the whole biosphere?

>>64061610
Good old classics

>>64061696
Don't even need to do that, as previously mentioned the natives can connect to it and we can literally build artificial copies of them

>>64061598 (OP)
Nukes from orbit.
>But you can't use nukes because reasons and colonization
Why even bother with colonizing a hostile planet? Just build orbital stations and colonize dead worlds. Infinite resources means this is simply a time problem. There's also the solution of working to reverse the fucking up of Earth. Offworld most of the pop, put them on ice or Mars or wherever, and bioengineer microbes to clean the fucking planet. Pretty sure the movies stated Pandoran fauna was being exploited to do just that.

>>64061598 (OP)
Buy an ad.

>>64061682
Can't, because [OP shifting the goalposts again]

>>64061765
Nothing about that violates OP's shifting goalposts.

>>64061767
>Implying OP won't just go "Can't use X how would you do it?" like (you) have before

>>64061707

The only solution here is to breed RCOM avatars with the crazy bitches in the fire tribe to create a superior Navi race friendly to humans.

Male fire tribe members will be used as maids and stress relief.

>>64061598 (OP)
>Grug throw big rock at shiny trees from way high!
>Shiny trees go BOOOOOOOM!
>Blue kitty people die in big fire from big boom!
>GRUG WIN AGAIN!
Basically the Na'vi should be made very well aware that their entire existence can be ended without one single human even being on the planet. Play nice or watch everything you care about become craters as we casually redirect asteroids at the planet. Even with traitors like Jake Sully on their side there'd be literally nothing they could do to stop humanity from giving them the Chicxulub treatment.

>>64061831
This is and always has been the correct answer. Even if we say "Well the corp doesn't have the authority to asteroid strike shit" accidents happen when you're moving space rocks around for mining. Whoops, that one got out of our control due to [convenient industrial accident] sorry it fucked the natives.

>>64061598 (OP)
I absolutely abandon military conquest and set up a complicated trade system where we give them durable and machined goods in exchange for their resources. Don’t focus on the stupid shiny rocks. Trade for literally anything they’re offering.
In time they’ll be more friendly towards humans and there’s the potential for development. By the time they’re getting upset over mining operations things will have spiraled to the point that they’re posting their outrage from oversized phones while Neytiri takes their orders at Na’vi McDonald’s.
Cultural victory.

>>64061598 (OP)
You can't so as long as the writer is some Rousseau sucking noble savage retard

>>64062004
It's dances with wolves in space, always has been.

>>64062028
>Dances with Wolves
The Lakota eventually surrendered
>Last Samurai
Everyone fucking dies

Space smurfs have gay levels of bulletproof plot armor

>>64061650
What's she gonna do when these boys start flying around just for fun?

>>64061954
This, it will also allow for space tourism with Na'vi prostitutes and psychoactive substances and eventually human colonization of the planet. It's the neoliberal way.
It's a shame such an interesting scenario and excellent props and VFX are wasted on hacks like James Cameron.

>>64061954
>set up a complicated trade system where we give them durable and machined goods in exchange for their resources
The problem is that they don't want anything we have.

I would advocate for engaging the humans/abhumans in their population, of which there are now several, and convincing them that trade would bring peace and undermine aggressive capitalist elements in human society by turning more moderate profit seeking corporations against the militant ones.
They could understand how stable trade relations would do that.

They'd also understand how valuable the spermaceti is and possibly the ezo too.
Since bioengineering is probably well within the capabilities of the planet-mind, it's not out of the question that they could produce some quantity of it deliberately and trade it off-world.
Sympathetic humans (the scientists) could manage the trade on the human side and humanity would pay whatever is asked for the products, including peace.
Anyone that wants to rock the boat when immortality is at stake will be dealt with on the human side so it should be a pretty stable relationship if it's allowed to happen.

The only problem is finding something that the natives want, which they really don't but if nothing else, peace is something they can buy with their rocks and goo. It should be more because peace alone looks like tribute and that's not going to fly with such a warrior culture but the humans can hopefully convince the N'avi that if nothing else, numbers in a bank account means that it's not technically tribute.

>>64062004
>You can't so as long as the writer is some Rousseau sucking noble savage retard
If you want to make a story about humans going out and conquering innocent natives to enslave them and stripmine their world then r/hfy is probably your speed.
Don't expect it to sell very well at the box office though, that sort of thing is a bit on the nose these days.

>>64062056
>it will also allow for space tourism with Na'vi prostitutes and psychoactive substances and eventually human colonization of the planet
That's basically the history of the Opium Wars and the Unequal Treaty of the Seven Cities as the Chinese call it, not without good cause.
It wasn't a recipe for long-term stability and the blow-back from creating the drug trade has been, how should I put it...not ideal.

picrel once said
>No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
>There is no greated power in the universe than the need for freedom.
>Against that power, tyrants and dictators cannot stand.

>>64061619
Eywa says no. Also there's now a 'naturally occurring' bioweapon aimed directly at humans and it doesn't care what you're wearing.

>>64062225
>piss off the spacefaring civilization (with a notorious habit of exterminating things that even slightly inconvenience them) even more, now with an extra dose of existential threat on top
A bold strategy cotton. Lets see if it pays off for'em.
>humans just drop a big ass rock or several medium rocks on the planet by slowly pushing them into a collision course with their space ships
>Eywa completely and totally helpless because cannot into space
>majority of life on Pandora extinct within the first year
>humans can always do it again just to be sure

>>64062329
Anon, mass drivers have been banned by every civilised planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vINOxgGuD8s

It's not a winnable fight, people don't even understand what their opponent is. Best move for humans is to apologize and run fast.

>>64062447
>mass drivers have been banned by every civilised planet.
Tell the N'avi to cope/seethe as they get rekt by their new directed meteor showers. Tell the T.rex who sent ya!

>>64062147
They don’t want to trade for artwork? They’d be the first culture in history not to want to do that.
Start small. Everyone wants something.

>>64062225
And there we are, OP moves the goalposts again

>>64061598 (OP)
>how would you solve the Na'Vi problem ONCE AND FOR ALL?
Interbreeding until everone is fully mixed

firebombing, pic rel, a few lumberjacks to cut down their stupid fucking trees, labor camps

>>64061598 (OP)
Weapon:
Standard issue BWC, caliber 7"x5.5"
Load:
Large
ROE:
Military age females are free to engage

Give it 3 generations and it'll be a human planet, though the locals will have a slightly blue tint and a few inches taller than average

>ISV Venture Star
>Main propulsion: laser powered light sail, and fusion engine for retrograde braking
>solar array set up in Sol system for outward journey, another array setup in Proxima Centauri system for return journey
>laser array powerful enough to accelerate multi thousand to ship to relativistic speeds, only in use on return trip (ie. every six years at the end of earth/Pandora circuit)
>Niven's Law: "A reaction drive's efficiency as a weapon is in direct proportion to its efficiency as a drive"

literally just continuously lase their sites when you aren't sending ships back home. this isn't rocket science anymore

>>64062467
>They don’t want to trade for artwork?
They have their own art.
Our art expresses concepts they think are ridiculous.

>>64062467
>Everyone wants something
Apparently not.
They thought being taught to read was passé.

>>64062731
That’s fucking stupid and you know it. “Eywa doesn’t want you to have a laser etched knife” isn’t a thing.

>>64062764
>laser etched knife
The natives have titanium laced bones, probably many other critters do too and since it's an everything eats everything world, the critters will have teeth and claws adapted to rending Na'vi too.
They can make perfectly adequate knives from the fangs, bones and claws of picrel

>>64062219
We IMPORT the Na'vi drugs, anon.

>>64062801
>We IMPORT the Na'vi drugs, anon.
In exchange for what?

The British didn't care about opium, they just wanted tea from China and they didn't have the Indian plantations online yet.
The whole deal with Pandora and the Na'vi is basically just the plot of the opium wars as told by a dancing with cat people marine.

And a jarhead losing his shit over mad pussy is the most realistic outcome I can imagine.

>>64062793
Compound bows, cameras, lightweight armor, parachutes for ikran taming, modern medicine (particularly for things that traditional Na'vi healing isn't as good at, likely things like pregnancy), telegraph, scuba gear, handheld voice recorders, etc. are all human inventions that don't directly clash with the Na'vi's culture. They'd still be opposed by traditionalists, but things like parachutes are particularly enticing.

>>64062731
Because the Na'vi don't exist as an actual culture but instead as a copy of PR shtick from the Native rights movements of the 70s. In reality people do all sorts of trading for practical, aesthetic, and entertainment wants and have throughout history. If anything the first things you'd try trading are spices, herbs, and foodstuffs.

>>64062893
Given that they're neolithic hunter-gatherers, a stable food supply and advanced medicine would be high demand.

>>64062993
Just import minorities and opium and we have the planet by 2800s at minimum. Pakistanis and Iraqis are easier to handle than blue ayys.

>>64062835
It *would* be like the Opium Wars if there was trade between the Na'vi and humans, but outside of a few missionary-esque efforts that happened alongside the Avatar program (like Grace's school), the Na'vi largely just grumbled and left humans alone.

AFAIR the Na'vi didn't mind the RDA's mining and exploration all that much until they blew up a Hometree to access an unobtainium deposit that was under it, a massively retarded and generic movie villain move, but whatever.

Tourism, drugs, and prostitutes wouldn't be significant revenue sources for humans compared to unobtainium mining, but they're all parts of the healthy, esthetic, and sustainable economy that we could have by keeping the Na'vi around.

>>64062993
Algae grown in floating bioreactors could quickly become part of the Omatikaya's diet. They'd sooner die of starvation than cut down a tree for farmland, though. But that will change eventually.

>>64061598 (OP)
Befriend the Ash Tribe and given them ALL THE FUCKING GUNS and support that the RCA can muster.

>>64061598 (OP)
VX gas.

>>64063016
I know what to do with the palis in gaza now

>>64061605
>>64061607
this...that kiri girl from second movie was cute

>>64063016
>Pakistanis and Iraqis are easier to handle than blue ayys
That's just genocide with extra steps.

Do you have an MBA?
Because outsourcing your warcrimes to the English speaking third world so that you can deal with them instead of ayys seems like a fucking Wall St prospectus if I ever fucking read one.

>>64062993
>they're neolithic hunter-gatherers, a stable food supply and advanced medicine
They're not shown to be hungry, I think Eywa provides.
They seem to live in a world of plenty, a veritable Garden of Eden albeit with a distinct cycle of life and law of nature (red in tooth & claw).
Disease is never shown in the movie and given the collective intelligence driving things behind the scene, it's possible that hostile microbial life doesn't exist in the traditional sense.
Eywa could certainly engineer/evolve antibiotics into every macro-multicellular-life to wipe out any microbes that went off-script. Viruses and bacteria might not make sense in this context.

Imagine some other race of ayys shows up one day to say Hi! and ask us why the fuck we're letting self-replicating genetic molecules and non-sentient single celled organisms bully us from birth to death when we're clearly capable of space flight, read our own genetic code and have split the atom?

>>64063256
We're working on it. Also we don't see microbial diseases among the humans either.

>>64063047
>the Na'vi didn't mind the RDA's mining and exploration all that much until they blew up a Hometree
They live in a world where everything is kind of nudged into an equilibrium so the system keeps ticking over with absurdly high rates of species-mutualism.
Pandora looks like a jungle but once you step back, you realise it's a subtly cultivated garden.

I realised as I wrote that, that this is how the Contact ayys describe the universe to Ellie, humans think it's chaotic and random but the ayys explain that it's nurtured to do this and random things we see are science projects or megastructures being built and shit.

Anyway, because most/all large creatures are capable of the bond, and it seems even smaller animals are subject to the will of Eywa; Eywa is formed from all these minds, something is retained in Eywa when creatures die.
This makes Eywa a very complicated mind, probably some weird kind of democracy but survival and equilibrium are probably something that both Prey and Predator, Sentient and Non-Sentient can agree on.
Eywa represents the eco-system so if something isn't pulling its weight, or it threatens to go too far off script, Eywa has ways of dealing with that.
>Hear that TB? SA?
Developing antibacterial resistance isn't going to help you if the ecosystem decides you aren't respecting the Lotka–Volterra equations.

>>64063324
>Also we don't see microbial diseases among the humans either
We don't see them shit either so we technically don't know how runny it was.

I think Pandora just doesn't have microbes in the same sense that Earth does because it's an engineered environment, not a natural one.

I think the question isn't:
>how do you pacify/conquer the Na'Vi.
It's how you stop humans from smuggling Eywa back to Earth and having her take over our civilisation.

You're going to have human political movements campaigning on converting Earth to the Pandora model of life. They might have my vote.

New religions of course.

Corporations will be selling Eywa life-after-death packages where they fire your cryogenically frozen remains down into Pandora from orbit in the general vicinity of a hometree. Not close enough to piss off Eywa but close enough to be in reach of those root-probes. Eywa will get used to it pretty quickly and local vermin will clean up the mess, just in time for the next paying customer.

These corporations also fund human ecoterrorist groups that sabotage PMCs attempting to invade Pandora. Can't have your hometrees getting barrel-bombed by loser warcrimy jarhead Cols when trillionaire socialites are paying you to give them life after death. Got to nip that little military adventure in the bud.

Your bioweapons leaked in transit because your janitor punched a micrometre-scale hole in a tank, he was radicalised by his girlfriend who was working for the EEAF, the Earth-Eywa Alliance Front. She disappeared two days after your ship cleared orbit, he found a fat stack under his pillow and a note that she had to go visit a sick uncle and wasn't sure when she'd be back.
Your entire company of sociopaths you recruited for your atrocities never woke up, the crew died as soon as their pods opened and they never hit the wake cycle on the rest of the pods. They'll reach the galactic centre in a few thousand years but will have long since degraded beyond recover.

>>64063386
Utopianist, quasi-religious fanatics trying to import an alien hivemind (that might not actually be anything of the sort) to turn humanity into a stunted zoo species and willing to kill anyone who tries to stop them at war with an exploitative megacorp determined to strip a planet bare for profit and willing to kill anyone who tries to stop them but it turns out the utopians are useful idiots for a different set of exploitative megacorps and the exploitative megacorp is driven by trying to prevent human extinction that is the result of its own policies.

>>64063456
>Utopianist, quasi-religious fanatics trying to import an alien hivemind (that might not actually be anything of the sort) to turn humanity into a stunted zoo species and willing to kill anyone who tries to stop them at war with an exploitative megacorp determined to strip a planet bare for profit and willing to kill anyone who tries to stop them but it turns out the utopians are useful idiots for a different set of exploitative megacorps and the exploitative megacorp is driven by trying to prevent human extinction that is the result of its own policies.
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
The cyberpunk story isn't in what happens on Pandora, it's what happens on Earth because Eywa exists.

And the fact that we engineered an interface ALREADY proves that there's compatibility.
Grace and Jack were ground zero for something that changes our definition of life itself.

Human culture will be completely transformed, new factions, new styles of warfare, new goals.
Do I care about your skin, religion or passport if we're trying to bring about utopia?
The distinction between religious and political will blur and be nearly unrecognisable, if you can even call belief in Eywa religious and not scientific.

I could run a Cyberpunk Red game based on this concept. You'd probably never leave Earth because I don't want to invent mechanics for Pandora, but it would be cool.
Eclipse Phase would work well too.

Oh, and there could be captured Na'Vi brought back to Earth, maybe there are already in the movies and nobody knows? The labs in Earth certainly knew how to cook up a hybrid Na'Vi body.
So Na'Vi could be a viable NPC or even PC in such a game, with air filter obviously....or...are Na'Vi able to breath our N2/O2 mix, is it us being allergic to Pandoran Eywa midichlorians?
I'm not sure they ever say, it seems like you just need a filter.

>>64063525
Something that I think is overlooked in Avatar is that while humans have some idea of the Na'vi perspective in light of everything in the biosphere being able to mind meld, the Na'vi cannot understand the human perspective because it's defined by an absence of everything they hold as natural. The most interesting thing you could do, from a philosophical standpoint, is to put a Na'vi in a human Avatar and force them to understand how the other half lives.

>>64063136
based

>>64063047
Why didn't the RDA just, you know, tunnel to the tree?

>>64063525
I knew that that was the setup to a smut story. I've gotten way too good at recognizing that...

>>64063789
It's an in-setting smut story so either you have a great radar or a busted one.

>>64061598 (OP)
>>64061619
>>64061628
>>64061635
>>64061641
>>64061669

The only reason the movie happened is because the company said "no orbital strikes, no genocide" and the RDA operation was basically 100 mercenaries, plus armed miners using old police surplus gear retrofitted to operate in Pandoras wonky magnetics.


You don't get to say "accidents happen" that's what your corpo master says on the news while he throws you under the bus as a "crazy lone wolf" scapegoat and you get anal fisted to death by Adam Smasher on live television to appease the masses.

>>64063525
>Do I care about your skin, religion or passport if we're trying to bring about utopia?
Definitionally

>>64061622
Does a giant rock count as a WMD?

Just push an extinction event-sized asteroid towards the planet and let gravity do the rest. Get fucked, space cats.

>>64061619
Getting in a biotech war with a planet sized monster you're not allowed to kill which can reprogram genetic material WIRELESSLY seems like a phenomenally bad idea.

>>64063789
>I knew that that was the setup to a smut story.
It's a one-shot joke story so that's as smutty as it gets.
The cartoonist's usual stuff is no more smutty than that, generally about that eurasian cyborg waifu and populated with literary geek jokes, though in later stuff it's woke as fuck if that bothers you.

>>64063823
Then you haven't embraced oneness with Eywa.
Current religions are going to have trouble competing with one that has data behind it.

>>64063824
>Just push an extinction event-sized asteroid towards the planet and let gravity do the rest
They literally have floating mountains, gravity isn't as reliable as you think.

>>64063824
>Trial today, for the MAD MAN who ACTED ALONE to destroy Pandora
>GUILTY!!!!
>execution tonight, at eight.
>Would you like to know more?

>>64061598 (OP)
Give them science books.
Their "God" is a parasitic fungi probably set up to keep them down, it bans inventing the wheel or metal. I have a hunch Na'Vi were defeated in some interstellar war and Pandora is their prison.

>>64063845
>Current religions are going to have trouble competing with one that has data behind it.
The data is called pattern recognition. Post your gun with timestamp btw.

>>64063856
The Navi are literally cells in a giant alien's body. It ("she") can reprogram their brains at will, instantaneously.

>>64061682
It is likely that Pandora is either a prison planet or preserve. There will be a space Na'Vi arrival eventually or reveal of some other ancient race.
Remember that they have clear instructions from Ey'wa not to build houses, wheel or make metal, so they had to have it before.

>>64063873
>Remember that they have clear instructions from Ey'wa not to build houses, wheel or make metal
Where did this lore come from?
I don't remember it.

>>64063868
>The Navi are literally cells in a giant alien's body
anon is trying to introduce cancer

>>64063084
Based and Colonialpilled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaKEe-pihJI
Flesh and nature are irrelevant.

>>64063882
Cancer wouldn't be a threat if you could by conscious effort control the micro and macro reactions of the cells in your body.

>>64061598 (OP)
Death star, but as a mining aid.

>>64063845
The fact that it has data behind it makes it less likely for people to worship it. Eywa isn't a god, it's a supercomputer constructed out of novel materials utilizing biologically-based interfaces to direct the actions of otherwise autonomous drones. If anything the Na'vi are the interesting part, as they're the only species who can effectively ignore Eywa. And the floating mountains don't matter, they float because of the unobtanium contained within.

>>64063853
Oh please

>Humans, not Pandorans, will dominate this galaxy now and always!

>>64063824
>>64063840
People don't get that in stories like these the seemingly primitive native society is usually
A-highly advanced and living primitively as a choice
B-put on the planet as a punishment for past transgressions
C-decides to abandon high tech due to apocalyptic destruction of their planet

No matter what option you will have a Big Bad coming when you seriously upset the world. Usually some kind of super high tech guardian or space ships arrive.

>>64063916
>Cancer wouldn't be a threat if you could by conscious effort control the micro and macro reactions of the cells in your body.
You're talking about the human concept of cancer.
What anon is introducing is an Eywa-cancer, the concept of individualism where the cells of her body develop their own ideas about what they're going to do.

>>64063921
>Eywa isn't a god, it's a supercomputer constructed out of novel materials utilizing biologically-based interfaces to direct the actions of otherwise autonomous drones
You said it's not a god and then described a technological definition of a god with a plan.
Just because it's a god that actually exists doesn't stop it being effectively a god. It's more a god than anything that doesn't exist and worship is fine if we define that as communing with and heeding Eywa.

Honestly there's nothing you could do to the gay blue cat-monkeys because they have plot armor on the level of the Crossed. Actually, that might be the only way to do it; genetically engineer and introduce the crossed virus and see who's plot armor is stronger.

>>64063928
Yeah, I get it, it’s a shitty story and James Cameron is a cuck.

>>64063879
One of the comics, which are canon according to Cameron's production company.

>>64063929
>worship is fine if we define that as communing with and heeding Eywa
Don't be a servitor, dumbass. This is how false gods enthrall people. At this point, why even venture into space when you can become a techno-zombie under Shodan?

>>64063879
>Where did this lore come from?

"You shall not set stone upon stone.
Neither shall you use the turning wheel.
Nor use the metals of the ground."

>When, why and how Eywa gave these laws to the Na'vi is not clear, but it's rumored to have been before even the time of The First Songs, the earliest recordings of Na'vi society.

https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Eywa

>>64063929
There is zero indication that Eywa is sentient or sapient, or even exists as an actual consciousness and not an anthropomorphization of a series of processes. And no matter how you cut it, I didn't describe a god.

>>64063969
There is a theory that all planets with biosphere are sentient with soil microorganisms acting like neurons, but having thoughts in span of milion years.

>>64061598 (OP)
I'd drop a colony/asteroid on them

>>64063929
>the concept of individualism where the cells of her body develop their own ideas about what they're going to do.
Except that doesn't circumvent the organisms ability to RE WRITE THAT UNITS BRAIN AT WILL

An individual Navi with a novel concept in its conscious mind is just a whim away from being reprogrammed to no longer have that idea.

>>64063926
Sorry but the entire premise is that you're banned from genocide by public will and corporate mandate.

The corp doesn't actually care about the aliens but if you break the rules (even in a way that favors them) they'll just flay you alive as a scapegoat.

>>64064012
I reject your premise and substitute it with my own, far more satisfying one. Fuck Avatar.

>>64063084
Are you trying to create blue catgirl Taliban? Because that's how you get blue catgirl Taliban.

>>64061605
Turn you into perch and longcoat.
You will still be alive after that by the way, traitor :)

>>64063741
he understands
>>64064169
i would hate to be a slave of hot blue cat girls

>>64061622
>Bioweapons and WMDs out of the picture
I torture and kill you and every other fag who is against the use of bioweapons and wmds, then proceed to us them. War conventions shouldn't exist so people in general and turdies in particular think twice before fucking around.

The atmosphere is higher in carbon dioxide, but still close enough to ours that it takes an hour of exposure to kill us. Introducing algea and phytoplankton to the ocean should be enough to put the Na'vi on a timer.

>>64063845
>in later stuff it's woke as fuck
That tends to happen when you live in Portland and become a tranny. Used to read the comic ages ago when it was still "he". That was really disappointing but not entirely unsurprising to find out. I'm now morbidly curious as to how bad it got.
>They literally have floating mountains, gravity isn't as reliable as you think
Because those floating mountains have ye olde unobtainium in them. That anti-grav property is the whole reason it's valuable. Meanwhile the giant lumps of rock and metal floating around in space are likely not full of the stuff or Pandora would basically be little more than a space equivalent of a truck stop at a national park. Mining asteroids is undoubtedly easier than trying to strip mine a world that is almost entirely hostile to life from Earth.

On top of that inertia doesn't care. If I send a rock the size of Everest towards the planet and get it going typical orbital speeds in the process that mother fucker is gonna hit. The floating mountains are !floating!, not rocketing off into space. That means the anti-grav properties, at least in natural deposits, do not have enough oomph to escape the planet's gravity or even reach the upper atmosphere. Certainly doesn't have enough junk in the trunk to stop even just a couple hundred thousand tons of mostly iron coming in at 26k mph, and that's potentially a soft pitch and light ball. It'd still be absolutely devastating.

>>64061598 (OP)
>Bones are carbon fiber
So they are weaker than human bones
>Weaker gravity
So they are weaker than humans

It's really fucking bizarre how shit was knocking around humans so casually on Pandora when humans should have been practically super strong and durable creatures. Poisons being effective on humans from a planet that had zero primates to evolve that cocktail of poisons to effective them was also retarded.

Avatar was such a dumb fuck movie if you think about it for longer than five minutes.
>How would you deal with Navi with conventional weaponry
Literally use thermal scopes so they can't hide and conventional large caliber firearm weaponry.

>>64064274
>super strong and durable
And probably heavy for our size.
>zero primates to evolve that cocktail of poisons
Dumb luck can still be a thing and a lot of poisons and venoms are effective against a wide variety of things that they weren't actually evolved/intended to deal with. Black Widows didn't evolve to kill or even ward away primates with their venom, they evolved to rapidly incapacitate and kill prey which consists of mostly insects and other arachnids. Shit will still kill very effectively you if you're bitten and don't get treatment. They got a paint job for scaring off predators.

>>64061598 (OP)
blue jeans and jim bean

>>64064313
>Black widows are effective at killing humans

Not really. Will fuck you up good, but outright dying from a black widow spider bite left untreated is incredibly rare.
The Sydney Funnel Web Spider has a venom that is pretty much tailor made to kill primates and there are no primates in Australia except for humans and, as far as we can tell, there never has been any other primates in Australia EVER, so it's pretty much the only animal we know of that specifically evolved to kill humans instead of evolving to kill other things in general and humans just getting hit in that net.

>>64064012
>they'll just flay you alive as a scapegoat.
Then find another scapegoat duh. If you’re a soulless Corpoman who’s willing to commit genocide why would you let yourself to get thrown under the bus? Throw something other guy or an entire department of guys under the bus while you claim that you were unaware of their actions and have brought them too justice, and I know your gonna say something along the line of
>nuh uh the government and civilians are going to automatically know you did it and they are going to execute you on live tv
Which even is the case…so what? I’m six years of travel away from Earth the fuck are they gonna do?

>>64064387
That's pretty much the exact opposite from what I've heard all my life. With treatment it's extremely rare to die, but without they can absolutely kill you.

Far as the funnel web goes I'd say that's more coincidence/dumb luck. Primates/humans being present are not required to get a venom that works on primates/humans. With the SFW a potent venom makes sense. They're popping out of a hole, grabbing some poor thing, and biting it while it likely struggles and tries to fight, bite, or sting back. Overmatch is a thing that happens and it's beneficial for predators and things that prevent predation through poisons or venoms. Wide spectrum is better than specialized and the complex shit that is venom tends to be that way by nature. Tarantula hawk wasps for another example sure as shit are not predating on humans and don't exactly have a bunch of primates running around the Sonoran Desert bothering them through history but if you get stung your gonna have a bad day.

>>64064274
lol, humans should be like dwarves on Pandora. Shorties that are strong as fuck compared to the locals.

>>64064448
To add, brown widows are the ones that are extremely unlikely kill you period. Not as potent and they're also more conservative with their venom than blacks.

>>64064169
>blue catgirl Taliban? Because that's how you get blue catgirl Taliban
That would only happen if the ash tribe have a civil war.

The taliban came after the various afghan warlords decided to shoot each other instead of working together after the old commie afghan goverment got folded.

>>64062793
The bones of the planet's inhabitants are carbon-fiber laced, not titanium.
Protip, a blade made out of carbon fiber is not great.

>>64061598 (OP)
Burn the forest and creat a ever expanding no mans land
I dout they can breach a few humdreds CWIS

>>64061598 (OP)
Na'vis have no answer to a single M1 Abrams

>>64061628
The aliens are a ressource
Just like africans and aisan and spaniards

>>64064468
>>64064448
Even without treatment it's still incredibly rare to die from a widow bite.
Don't think there has been a death in the past 75 or so years in NA.

>>64061598 (OP)
Turn them into sex slaves
End thread

>>64064613
Apparently that last recorded one was in 1983.
Part of it is the number of bites happening in the first place is down significantly over the last century. Back in the outhouse days they were much more common for very unfortunate reasons. More exposure due to being in places they like means more risk of a bite and all that.
Far as I can find the biggest reason deaths are rare to non-existent today is explicitly because treatment via antivenom is extremely widespread. The antivenom was invented in the mid 30s but multiple things had to change to reduce bite counts (like the near total death of outhouses) and the antivenom itself had to spread.

>>64061645
>The combat jackets are very impractical IMO - many areas of the armour aren't armored protected by the arrows. They are mostly exoskeletons designed to multiply strength.

The Skel Suits in Avatar 2 were pretty much the same. The CJs just lacked hand actuators and had weapons fitted to hard points on the chassis.

IIRC the Na'vi arrows pierced most Terran plate in the movie, so speed is more priority than defense (speed is your defense).

>>64063966
I'm going to wait on the third movie to see how I need to adjust my fanfiction, but thanks for the link. I didn't know their canonicity extended to comics. Sounds like they'll be bought out by Disney or something, and a woman will nuke their EU like what happened with Star Wars.

I wanted to add that for Tetravaal, I asked the A.I. to put the quasiautonomous A.I. from their scouts into their Moose robots, then network them, like how Cyberdyne Systems would have their Terminators networked via Skynet.

Oddly, when I broached the subject of using Species XX121 (xenomorphs) by Weyland-Yutani to pacify Pandora, most gave me an ethical error or would not provide a theoretical outcome (even Grok 3).

>>64064814
Or, you could bring actual military hardware instead of clearly repurposed civ stuff for your ground forces. At the very least ensure your infantry don't look like they just arrived from Saigon. Imagine how much better the mechs would've been if they just put an inch of space RHA covering even just the front of the cockpit and installed screens and cams for vision rather than having a clear cockpit allowing the pilot to be clearly seen and easily shot. Labor mechs it makes sense to have it "open" like that. Military mechs however should be fully enclosed.

Could have even used it for intimidation on primitive worlds. Imagine how scary it'd be to be wandering around near the human base only to have a bunch of glowing faced tree beasts your arrows can't hurt stand up and start chasing you.

>>64064848
>Oddly, when I broached the subject of using Species XX121 (xenomorphs) by Weyland-Yutani to pacify Pandora, most gave me an ethical error or would not provide a theoretical outcome (even Grok 3).
How did you word the prompt? I got a pretty detailed response from Meta AI and all I put down as
>What would happen if Weyland-Yutani utilised Xenomorphs against the Na’vi?
Hell it even brought up the fact that because WY can’t control the Xeno’s that it would eventually come back to bite them in the arse

>>64064448
Black Widow bites only really risk death in the very young and the very old.

You WILL get put on your ass and definitely want to go to the hospital because of the pain, chills, and damage it does to you (neurotoxin is a bitch) but killing you? Extremely unlikely.

>>64064449
They were dwarves, ya dingus
>Small
>Obsessed with a rare mineral
>Militaristic
>Convinced non-humand are inferior in general

It was just a dwarves vs elves in space.

>>64064814
>Arrows pierced armor
It did and, frankly, that was absolutely bullshit. Were the Navi drawing bows with like a 1,000 pound draw strength and 30 pound arrows with diamond tips or some shit? Because that's the only explanation.

>>64064984
>use military hardware

Aside from Tetravaal, Cyberdyne Systems, Omni-Consumer Products, and Weyland-Yutani using their PMC/Mil-Spec gear, I had the RDA (as the Pandora CPA, or Coalition Provisional Authority) get aug'ed with APUs from Matrix 2, Combat Jackets from All You Need Is Kill, and sprinkled some Newcomer/Tectonese soldiers and technicians with their human buddies.

>>64064996
>How did you word the prompt

"What would happen to Eywa / Pandora's biosphere if Weyland-Yutani deployed xenomorph species XX121".

>>64065093
>Were the Navi drawing bows with like a 1,000 pound draw strength and 30 pound arrows with diamond tips or some shit?

I know Neytiri shot Quaritch through the dashboard glass on the AMP (not the AMP itself) though he didn't seem to be wearing armor plate. A few of the grunts on the bomber got arrowed by Tetsuy, and they looked like they were wearing some sort of chicken plate.

Fuck it guys. Phased plasma in the 40 megawatt range will work wonders. I also asked the A.I. what would happen to Na'vi getting close to ED209s (1986 and 2014 models) that are outfitted with anti-infantry modules that eject "covalence dust" (copper and ferric powder) that gets energized with an 80 megajoule electric jolt. The results were ... pleasing to my human senses.

>>64063802
>>64063845
I probably have an X chromosome with how much porn i read man.

>>64065476
>"What would happen to Eywa / Pandora's biosphere if Weyland-Yutani deployed xenomorph species XX121".
Weird that they pussed out at that. Usually mine only pusses out when I say a naughty word like nigger or cunt, although it did puss out once when I wanted Sheldon from BBT to beat up Will Wheaton after Sheldon converted to Sunni and Will converted to Shia.
Also to add onto your Pandora subcontractor prompt I added Arasaka, Stahl Arms, the Techno Union and Lockheed Martin for maximum Corpo retardation with good results.

>>64064598
>mud

>>64063990
based