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China has just demonstrated a master class in joint operation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US8GaSiGjBM&t=110s
pretty based. That's how they used their flight hours with reliable real engines.
>>64067757 (OP)Wow they found a stealth aircraft with an AWACS in the air, how novel.
Jesus friggin Christ guys let's welcome China to 1987
The thing about china that the chinese have right is that they are the bastion of civilization and we are the barbarians. 2000 years of society has bread the fight out of them, they are nothing to worry about.
>>64067769they didn't find anything on their own radars tho. Just watch the video for more details of the masterclass.
But I bet the US didn't know that due to lack of real training.
>>64067777This is literally a Chinese propaganda channel.
Low quality bullshit tailored to make China look implessive
lol I guess chiggers are behind even Pakistan. I guess it make sense that Pakis can do AWACS operations before them because they were trained by USAF
>>64067757 (OP)kill yourself chinkspammer
Chinese airborne has arrived!
>>64067757 (OP)that's the J-10s vs J-20 btw. We know now that with superior engines, the J-20 does not need to engage the afterburner to do simple maneuver. If it were an F22 instead, it could have been much worse.
>>64067848Wow I didn't chink engines were so advanced, is that why chink engines are sold for 90% aviation?
>>64067864nah. they just make honest engines.
The PLAAF is actually the most honest air force there is.
>>64067777Wait until you have to go against a real air force and not fucking India LMAO. Chang over here moping and coping.
>post chink gear with high praises
>immediately shits on western gear causing flame war
>complain when thread gets deleted
If you want a good faith discussion you can just post chink gear without shitting on western stuff.
>>64067874Implessive, so who buys engines from a company that makes this honest engines?
>>64067848>You can literally watch the J20 slowing down after coasting into a climb even in their propaganda videos, the slow pull up for better speed conversion, plus absolute dogshit linear COM making the spin pull it all over the placeLmao, even Euro's are supelior
>>64067874Oh did you not manage to feel guilt and shame (human emotions btw) after your last thread where everyone pointed out that you could use 18 different countries for reference on engine weight and performance? fucking KEK. chang threads are my favorite because of how little they understand about the rest of the world.
>"what do you mean truckers have to stop at weigh stations constantly, why?"still laffing at that one
>>64067884>If you want a good faith discussion you can just post chink gear without shitting on western stuff.chinkspammer and the other turdies that like to pollute our board aren't here for good faith discussions
>>64067886Pakistan but only because China extends them credit despite Pakistan's economy collapsing harder than a Chinese-made building in an earthquake.
>>64067888maybe they'll try to cram another engine into it. like they always do
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>>64067888>make IMPRESSIVE planes>got shot downthat's the consequence of the lack of real training in making aircrafts.
>>64067908>AircraftsYou're not even trying you tard.
6th gen
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>>64067901maybe if they add another canards, it will fly faster?
>b2>6th gen btw>4 engines btw>sub-sonicsad.
>>64067920>b2Are you aware of how these are even used? Is this an actual chink or someone trying to make them look bad? Genuinely asking.
>>64067757 (OP)Your own government/military has openly acknowledged that they are far behind in joint operations capability. I'm happy that you are finally doing the work to join the 20th century, but completing a single training exercise (between two elements in the same force, mind you) does not a superpower make.
>>64067777Its funny that this graphic can't be found on their website.
...its almost like someone made it the fuck up.
>>64067920The B-2 Spirit is not "6th gen." The generational classification system is for use concerning fighter aircraft and has never been used for strategic bombers.
>>64067940>be a schizo>can find statements that are not there>can't find an obvious picturemeds
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/usafs-capacity-capability-and-readiness-crisis/
>>64067959So...its not from their website then? Which was what was stated.
Thanks for acknowledging that I was right. I'll make sure to mark this down in my notebook where I keep all my internet victories. Very gracious of you.
>>64067969Mitchell Institute is not a website. It's a real physical space and the author works there.
An English course and some meds will do you good. I suggest clozapine max dose right off the bat.
>>64067959This reads like "Congress please upgrade our budget 20, no, 30%"
The Chinese don't realize that American bureaucracy in military matters requires that we understate our capacity and try to frame the problem like something money can solve when in reality our Air Force is an order of magnitude more capable than the PLAAF and the bureaucrats want more coffee filters and the good Folger's for the break room.
>>64067777>due to lack of real training.quads of absolute detachment from reality
>>64067920>fighter jet thread>brings up b2chinks are actually retarded lmao
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>>64067986> we understate our capacityehehehe
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/974413/navy-to-commission-destroyer-zumwalt/
>>64067980>Mitchell Institute is not a website.https://www.mitchellaerospacepower.org/
>It's a real physical spaceNo one said they didn't have an address
>and the author works there.He retired nearly two decades ago and has jackshit to his name in the public sphere since then. He also provides no sources, places an infographic unrelated to the section it is in, said infographic doesn't seemingly come from where he says it did, and merely quotes "reported" chinese flight hours much later in the article. He's a fucking hack trying to get more money for the USAF (which is his job description) not actually do any worthwhile analysis. The fact that this is the only piece of "evidence" you have is more damning than no evidence at all.
>>64067980>Mitchell Institute is not a websitehttps://www.mitchellaerospacepower.org
How odd
>John “JV” Venable, a 25-year veteran of the U.S. Air Force who served in three combat operations, is the author of a book on leading high performance teams, “Breaking the Trust Barrier” (Berrett-Koehler, 2016) and is a sought-after speaker to businesses, associations, universities, and high schools on building and leading high performance teams, ethical leadership, and “the power of big dreams.”
Bro is a fucking motivational speaker for hire.
>>64068043>“the power of big dreams.”Well that explains why the chinks like him so much
>>64068011Zumwalts ended up being really expensive so we decided to go with the Flight III Burkes.
Stealth warships aren't worth $8 billion each to the US taxpayer.
>need to bolster confidence in our military
>pay bug people to lie on the internet for you
>they're not even good at it
I'd be miffed tbqhfamalam
Oh yeah, this is the guy who knows what's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpWPxVPPcu8
>>64067920if the chinks tried a tailless design like the illustrated NGAD it would spin like a boomerang back and crash into the strip they launched it from
>>64068067Do they commit to the bit or get a new shill image? You just cant write comedy like this. Its truly special
>>64068069Then it would never be spoken of again because the chinks refuse to acknowledge any of their losses.
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>>64068069yea
needs more canards
>>64068019the White House is also not a website. If I can't find epstein files on whitehouse.gov, it doesn't mean the files aren't there.
>>64068069yea
>>64068096>If I can't find epstein files on whitehouse.gov, it doesn't mean the files aren't thereglad we cleared that up. so in other words you don't have a source like what was originally requested?
>>64068096>the White House is also not a website. If I can't find epstein files on whitehouse.gov, it doesn't mean the files aren't there.The White House is a seat of goverance, the Mitchell Instiute is an organization that publishes papers in the hopes of influencing policy. Putting shit on their website is literally what they do. And even if we want to entertain they have "sekrit papers" why should anyone take them seriously when they are not open to public inspection? This is the same logic that is applied when people talk about the "Epstein Files" while not releasing them.
>>64068117>publishes papers in the hopes of influencing policysenator PedoGOP: "they say we only have 90s flight hours per capita, is it true?"
Pentagon chud: "no"
wow. Their cover has been blown!!!
>>64068117>why should anyone take them seriously when they are not open to public inspectionYou're wasting your time. Chinks literally cannot comprehend peer review. It's why ebay machinist send parts they make wrong to their little hubs they have in California, because they know its getting shipped back to the mainland and 3d modeled before having cnc machines pump them out in an effort to undercut the original seller.
>>64068125I genuinely can't even understand what point you are hoping to make through the buzz words and zoomzoom-speak.
>>64068122that's not what i said at all esl
>I dont have a sourcewe know
>Your own government/military has openly acknowledged that they are far behind in joint operations capability. I'm happy that you are finally doing the work to join the 20th century, but completing a single training exercise (between two elements in the same force, mind you) does not a superpower make.
Still waiting.
You're not afraid to address the topic of the thread, are you?
>its not a website
but it is? why even list the institution on the image if you didn't want it referenced?
>okay its a website but the data is hidden
why? that doesn't make any sense at all
>epstein
unreal
>>64068133the point is if what they said were false it would be easily verified during the hearings. It would be retarded of them to falsify something so easily verifiable.
>inb4 they will approve the budget increase knowing it was false anywaywhat is the use of thinktanks and lobbying then?
cope more, grandpa.
>>64068170you're not even in the same ballpark as the discussion at hand. you're not having the argument you think you are.
>>64068178>more cope and denialoh yea they are going to deliberately lie to Congress using easily verifiable data.
also you are a noserve nogun shitting on an air force colonel. Top kek.
He is the source. Feel free to prove otherwise.
>>64068197im not even the original person you were arguing with, im saying you're so off base you might as well be talking about aloe vera. its deranged
>>64068170>something so easily verifiableThen post something that verifies it that isn't just an unsourced blog post from some nobody.
>>64068203>im not even the original person you were arguing withgood you can take his balls off your mouth then.
>>64068197Post timestamp gun pic, since you decided to bring funz up.
>>64068226>that doesn't count because... I don't like it!!!or
>mama told me the flight hours were 200 per capita!!!I have provided a source with credible connection to the air force for those numbers. Feel free to find any other source disputing that number. Your mom can count if she was an air force colonel.
>>64068228Do chinsects out eachother's ball in their mouths because chinsect benis is way too smol to stick in someone's mouth?
>>64068273you linked to a pundit who cites nothing to support his claim, keep coping turdie
>>64068273Why are so so desperate to talk about anything except what you originally brought up and were challenged on? Why are you so scared?
>>64067842Not funny, this is how Bill Nye the science guy died.
>>64068273>with credible connection to the air force for those numbersNo you didn't. You posted an unverifiable claim with a, "trust me bro, the report is totally real, it just goes to a different school" teir source. Source on chinsect flight hours? And no, flight simulator training does get to be included in your total flight hours, Abdul the inbred ape. The US only quotes flight hours when the pilot is physically in his plane flying it in the real world.
>>64067842They need support! Here comes the Chinese marines!
>>64068353>stands around for six minutes WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS?????
>>64067757 (OP)so you do know that your propaganda video has the AWACS within the NEZ of the aggressor craft, right?
>>64068197>also you are a noserve nogunChinks cant even get the memes right.
>>64068396They're not human
>Your own government/military has openly acknowledged that they are far behind in joint operations capability. I'm happy that you are finally doing the work to join the 20th century, but completing a single training exercise (between two elements in the same force, mind you) does not a superpower make.
Did you run away? Where did you go?
>>64068545>>64068353From what Ive seen irl, chink situational awareness is overall poor, having lived 10 minutes away from a China town. Basic environmental triggers such as lights changing consistently take them quite a few seconds to notice. I don't know whether this horrid shit is a consequence of this or they simply don't give a fuck.
