Thread 64084105

What is everyone's thoughts on Korean guns being brought back to the US market?
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/snt-provides-update-on-american-k2-rifles-44821978


> DP51
> 500 USD
Looks like another browning clone

> K2S Rifle
> 1800 USD
Looks pretty cool. Would love to compare it to the Galil. They are out of their mind with that pricing though

>>64084105 (OP)
If they end up in the hands of some mentally ill zoomer I would considered that a good thing, because more school shootings in the mutt colony are always a good thing.

>>64084117
mad lol

>>64084117
why are you even in a gun thread dude

>>64084105 (OP)
>DP51
Lionheart Industries originally imported DP51s however long ago. They currently produce a clone called the Regulus. Given Lionheart remains a fairly niche manufacturer, I doubt the DP51 will have many sales.

>>64084105 (OP)
DP 51 was a pretty good budget blaster back in the day

>>64084105 (OP)
this is fucking sick. always wanted a K2!
>>64084117
lol mad

>>64084132
The reason it's niche is because the dude charges amazing amounts of money for his boutique designs instead of the $500 it's actually worth

>>64084132
Fucking Lionheart pistols are a couple of grand nowdays. No wonder they are niche. Why they thought souping up a browning clone was a good business model, I will never know.

Tariff Korea. Be good patriots and buy American you guys

>>64084140
It's more like a Smith & Wesson 59 series. But yeah, he's literally only offering the top end stuff instead of the budget-friendly semi-auto that made the DP51 popular

>>64084142
Good companies like Sig America :^)

>>64084105 (OP)
i'm absolutely getting the K2 the moment i can, that shits cool as fuck
just wish it could be a K1A1 though, that would be perfect

>>64084146
Dude for 1800 bucks. That is as expensive as the galil and that shit is already overpriced.

>>64084105 (OP)
>K2S announced Q3 2026, no mention of the K2
Glad I bought a Beryl a month ago instead of waiting on the K2. I will consider a DP51 though. $499.99 isn't a horrible price for an all metal handgun with the interesting triple action. I just hope it doesn't randomly drop the mags when I shoot it like my DP51 I used to own.

>>64084154
$1800 is already the price old stock has been selling for, and i'd rather get the gun before the chance of it going abandonware happens
theres already plenty of other guns in the same price range that are worse in quality too, so its no skin off my back for something better

>>64084105 (OP)
Thank God, I was worried it might become vaporware.
>1800 USD
Higher than what they were initially targeting. Hoping that it goes down over the next few months or years of production.
While I'm disappointed in that, it's good to hear that they'll probably be able to deliver DP51s for just $500. That's competitive with Beretta for metal frame handguns.
>Would love to compare it to the Galil
AR guys are gonna like it more, that's for sure
>>64084142
They're being made in the US dumbass, precisely to stop faggots like you from banning them again.

Out of the nonstandard trigger mechanisms (HK LEM and Walther AS), Daewoo's triple action makes the most sense imo.

>>64084195
>1800 USD
>Higher than what they were initially targeting. Hoping that it goes down over the next few months or years of production.
NTA but hoping new gun pricing + it being the fancier model rather than the basic model I want (OG folding stock, polymer handguard) increasing the price just a hair.

>>64084105 (OP)
>metal frame
>external hammer DA/SA
BYEAH

>>64084105 (OP)
>AR18
Sure I guess. There's plenty of market for that.

>>64084105 (OP)
yeah it really is all about the price point. the rifle itself isnt anything functionally special for the civilian market. it's just a sort of interesting take on a service rifle and for that reason, it's valuable to collectors/cloners. people who really love the gun and its history might get it for that much but i cant see it doing too well in the broader market at 1800. it'd probably sell like hotcakes at ~1000-1200

>>64084178
>>64084213
the K2S is the original K2. the K2C is the modernized version.

>>64084561
its more like an AK with its long stroke piston and all

>>64084105 (OP)
I’m getting a K2 for sure. Q’ways loved those things.

>>64084717
>Always
Although I do like the original K2 look

>>64084154
Yeah, guns are expensive now man. It's not 2014 anymore

>>64084105 (OP)
For the price point I'm more interested in the pistol desu, which in sure will drop a bit. It looks like a neat pistol. If the markings are good then it could be some variety. The rifles for 1800 is alright, a little to pricey for what they are. If they drop to like 1400 then it could be worth it for sure. These will stay on my radar though if simply for a unique rifle that shoots 556 and takes AR mags. It doesn't add any logistical strain on my shooting which I'm tired of and why I got rid of all my quirky meme rifles

>>64084105 (OP)
Fuck that, I want $300 M1 Carbines to be imported with shittons of surp ammo

>>64084132
The DP51 will probably kill Lionheart lol

>SNT's Defense & Motiv
>Formerly Daewoo's

>>64084105 (OP)
>Heavy 15 round 9mm pistol for $500
>AR-15 knockoff for $1800
Cmon man

>>64084154
Welcome to 2025

The k2 is fundamentally a better platform than the ar-15 and would overtake it if not for the existing momentum/aftermarket the ar-15 platform currently enjoys

>>64085176
It's not 2010 anymore anon, you have to let go of such ridiculous notions...

>>64084105 (OP)
So these aren't going to be vaporware like the Indonesian FNCs?

>>64085356
Like every other gun announcement, I assume its bullshit until I start seeing them in peoples hands.

This is the only Korean gun I respect!
iykyk

The guns are made in the US thus the jacked up prices. I fucking hate tariffs and the stupid trade deals!

>>64086568
hide post, nice

>>64084105 (OP)
>K2
yes
YES
YEESSSSSSS
TAKE MY FUCKING MONEY

>>64085134
You dont have any sovl we get it

>>64086568
They're going to be "assembled" in the US, i.e. 922r compliance BS.

>AR: -_-
>AR, but Korean: O_O

And with that price tag? LMAOING AT YOUR LIFE

>>64084105 (OP)
Are they only for rooftops?

>>64087089
Poorfag

>made in America instead of Korea
It's gonna be dogshit riddled with QC issues.

DAEWOO BOUNCE!!

>>64087212
as opposed to india?

>>64087243
>whataboutism

>>64087179
That's it? I was fool enough to buy from Daniel Defense instead of Geissele and that cost me around 1600

You're paying 1800 dollars for an inferior product with the same price tag and it's still an AR-15 at the end of the day

>>64084145
With the new 50% tariffs on Indian imports, Sig’s MIM parts are about to experience and uncommanded upcharge.

>>64084105 (OP)
>Looks like another browning clone
DP51 is actually unique on its own since it has a single action mode with really a low trigger weight.

>>64087212
Thank god they'll be using chink cnc machines instead of low skilled hispanics.

>>64087248
not really?
US weapons manufacturing is fine, its beloved to euros
it tends to go to shit when the guns use parts from out of country, differences in communication, specifications, cost of manufacture, etc, blur the lines, throwing precision out the window
even cheap US shit is better than a large portion of foreign weapons, with the euros only having peer quality because of their own laws

>>64085134
>Heavy 15 round 9mm pistol for $500
That means it shoots better than plastic strikershit. Also, $500 is competitive with Beretta and CZ pricing and is actually cheaper than a brand new Glock.
>AR-15 knockoff for $1800
Opinion discarded
>>64084638
>i cant see it doing too well in the broader market at 1800
Perhaps, but I think it's got a decent shot. Other AR-style piston folders currently on the market go for about as much if not more

>>64087497
>K2
>AR-15 knockoff
Daewoo is nothing like AR-15 except for it's magazine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUdBqCO9PAw

>>64087510
Doesn't it also use an ar15 bolt

>>64084105 (OP)
Why would I get either of those over a gen 3 g19 and an 11.5 PSA AR?

>>64087577
because you don't have a K2 yet

>>64084105 (OP)
Holy shit, one of my dreams is a double stack Nork Tok clone with ergonomic grips! I've always wanted a......

Oh wait.....

*Sleeps*

>>64087524
>>64087251

It uses an ar-15 bolt with a long gas piston system from the AK. Aparently is much reliable and shoots smoother cause of it.

>>64087577
>>64087577
Cause it is not a trad ar-15

>>64084105 (OP)
I got a DR200 for 1200 bucks a couple of weeks ago, I was going to wait for one of the new Daewoos but couldn't pass up the DR for the price. Maybe I'll get a new release when they finally enter the market. I'm also hoping parts become available so I can get the proper K2 stock on mine.

>>64084154
Where can you get a Galil ARM for 1800 bucks, I will suck your dick if you can find one. Nobody wants a new galil.

>>64084435
yeah I'm definitely getting one of these

>>64087577
Because it's DAEWOO
duh

>>64084814
if only

>>64087510
Not the one who said that, but the receiver shape, controls, fire control, and bolt come all from the AR. The gun being essentially an M16 with an AK gas system is what makes the gun so great, and IMO better than the AR-18 derivatives on the market.

>>64084117
go back to your HOA rage thread

So is it an ar-18 platform or something else?

Seems like it is at least inspired by it.

>>64084143
You know what's better than a 59-series clone? A police surplus actual 5900 gun. I wanted one of these back when I was like 16, but they were still in production and thus like $1,000 in today's dollars. Got mine for $279 two years ago during a flash sale at Buds.

>>64084117
>goes into thread about thing he isn't allowed to own
>seethes about it
Go bin that knife, boy.

>>64089731
They're both good. I prefer the frame mounted controls on the DP51 but third gen smiths were great

>>64089676
It's an AR/AK hybrid. Take an AR-15 bolt carrier, chop the rear part off, take off the gas key, and cut out a hole in the top to insert an AK long stroke piston. An AK type recoil spring nests in the back of the piston assembly so you don't need a buffer tube and can have a folding stock.

>>64087632
>shoots smoother
Do you not own an ar? Put a mid length di gas system on it and it'll have basically zero recoil. How is that not smooth enough?

>>64087251
Variety is the spice of life, or so they say. I think retarded meme guns are just that, retarded and memes. But the K2 is a little different as it shares the same caliber as an AR as well as the same mags and a few internal parts. This makes it one of if not the least retarded retarded meme gun, so you are paying to have something cute to mess around with. I agree though the price tag is a little severe, I'll think about picking one up if they drop under 1400
>>64089740
Gas system length is not what's making your AR shoot smooth, the gas port size + buffer and spring setup is what's 99% controlling felt recoil. In my experience a correctly gassed carbine gas system will shoot just as smooth as a midlength. Midlength absolutely over hyped(still good tho) especially by people who don't have as much experience controlling for certain variables

>>64087089
>>64087251
It's not an AR, retard-kun
>>64087577
Because some people actually like collecting guns as a hobby and not for minmaxing autism.

>>64087346
it's still whataboutism :\

>>64087577
because I already own 9 AR-15s and don't want anymore poorshitoo

>>64090453
The fuck are you doing with 9 AR-15s? Gluing them together for a small AA gun?

>>64091723
It's because suck my balls

>>64090370
fair

>>64090370
Whataboutism is called persuasive precedent in court.

>>64085134
>>64087577

>>64087639
I love skeleton stocks so much, that’s slick. I like the new Daewoo mom says we can’t get at home.

>>64084105 (OP)
The dp51 is a Model 59 clone with "triple action"

>>64092796
>Temu LR-300

>>64093236
LR-300 wasn't longstroke though

>>64093236
No folding stock and the LR-300 was DI. This is more similar to piston ARs like the HK416.
Honestly unless I'm missing something the gun seems kinda superfluous. It's not as compact or light as the K1 it's supposed to replace, it's functionally identical to the HK416 and other piston ARs Worst Korea already has, and the K2C seems like it would be perfectly fine alternative in its capacity as a carbine. Probably won't make big waves on the US market unless it can significantly undercut most of the piston ARs that are currently available.

>>64084105 (OP)
K2C1 is ugly as fuck in a bad way, and $1800 is too much for an original K2 even though I do like them.

>>64084105 (OP)
They'll cost more than a poverty pony and the company will go out of business within a few years.

>>64084105 (OP)
I'll grab one if street price ends up closer to 1500 or under.

>>64084105 (OP)
Does the korean have any other rifles in active service? This looks real ugly compare to literally anything else
>>64095341
Harlot

>>64095468
I mean they have the K1 carbine. Here's one I got to check out a few years ago. You really think they're ugly? I think they have nice lines. But I also think the F4 phantom is beautiful

>>64095651
>see cool-ass korean safety markings
>"Oh cool I wonder if the new ones have-"
>search shotshow vids
>English
Genuinely my only complaint about the nu-Daewoos

>>64097467
I mean, people still need to read the thing, what did you expect

>>64097513
I know. But now that I've seen the Korean markings I can't unsee them and I know what I'm missing out on. Fug.

>>64097467
For what it's worth the ones we got in the 80s and 90s are also in engrish.
Maybe you can have someone laser engrave moon runes later.

>>64084105 (OP)
I've actually been looking into getting the DP51 for a while, that's actually really cool
Is there any more news on how exactly it's coming out, to differentiate them from much older models that are already getting sold around?
For example are gun shops just going to get it, or do you have to order it specifically or something

>>64087638
>>64087971
>>64090032
>>64090453
>>64092408
Wow that sounds really gay and didn't answer my question, 11.5 PSA AR wins again

>>64103156
If you cant draw your own conclusion why a Daewoo made rifle is superior to a PSA made rifle then you are retarded. It will cost more but it will be better in every way possible

>>64084142
>Tariff Korea. Be good patriots and buy American you guys
Why though? I'm not apposed to buying American goods when it's sold at a good deal or the quality/durability outweighs the price BUT isn't South Korea like an ally of ours or something? I've been running a 2TB SK Hynix SSD in my PC for a while now for example and it's still kicking around just fine. In fact I might fill in an empty 2.5 SATA bay with yet another Hynix SSD since I've had pretty good luck with them so far. Yeah yeah I sometimes joke to about 'muh worst korea' but they make plenty of nice things (smart phones aren't one of them though. Speaking of which do Samsung phones still spontaneously explode or catch fire?).
>inb4 "Ummmm because your a Drumpf Magatard duhhhhhhh!!!!"
I'm a LoLbert actually and we never win any major elections, just thought I'd mention that before you gaslight me.

>>64084145
>Sig 'America'
They should just set up shop entirely in India. That would be best for everyone.

>>64103446
>isn't South Korea like an ally of ours or something
They're our Greatest Ally™.

>>64103190
>Gun USA: meh
>Gun chinkland: OH MY SCIENCE HOW WHOLESOME!
Why are /v/ tourists like this

I shot my DR200 today, it was pleasantly smooth (I expected it to be snappy like how some said online), reliable, and had a nice trigger, but its not very accurate. The front sight is very wide, and it was accuracy mogged by my colt 6920, and my M16A1 clone. With it, I had trouble hitting torso sized steel targets between 200-350m. I will probably get a mount and aimpoint for it, and replace the stock.

>>64084117
Yeah because an $1800 niche korean rifle is gonna be the goto for a school shooter rather than a $400 PSA AR. Get a fucking grip, you people absolutely hate people having fun and hurting nobody.

>>64103535
>$400 PSA AR
You mean a Daniel Defense?

>>64103522
GTFO tourist. Variety is the spice of life.
>>64103535
>>64084117
Isn't the archetypal school shooter gun a daniel defense M4?

>>64084105 (OP)
I have a post-ban Daewoo DR-200 which is a cucked K2 (no folding stock, no PG, no bayonet lug) and they’re fucking sweet as far as an AR derivative goes. My favorite thing is the adjustable gas system, mine on the lowest setting works amazing, the recoil is so light with standard M193 5.56. I also have a DP-51 which they’re alright, you can still get them for around $400 when you find them, they’re a solid handgun for someone who wants a more traditional metal framed 9mm. The only thing that sucks is that the magazines are pretty expensive and they’re 13rd mags when you do find the ones that werent limited to 10rds, which a lot of them are. I’m definitely getting a K2C though, they are definitely worth the $1800.

>>64103577
Nice woo, what's the sauce on that stock?

>>64103549
Yeah a turbo autist loner loser saved up all his McDonalds money to buy a expensive AR, now I guess it’s just the fucking norm with you guys.

>>64103577
>>64103577
>mine on the lowest setting works amazing, the recoil is so light with standard M193 5.56
Lighter than a M16A1 clone?

>>64103590
>implying it wasn't supplied by the feds
Shalom.

>>64103591
Maybe a cunt hair lighter recoil than an A1. I’ve never done a back to back comparing the 2 but I’d say a Daewoo on low setting is about as soft shooting as I’ve gotten with 5.56 personally.

>>64103629
Damn. I need to get myself one once they release. I hope there's an option for 1:12 barrels. How much does the canted flash-hider affect the muzzle riser btwvw?

>>64103603
I’m not gonna deny shit like that is happening but it’s not too crazy to believe that faggot who lived with his grandparents and had no kind of bills or payments could save up 2 grand for a DD.

>>64103643
Except that faggot was an 18 y/o spic from Tejforsianojosetacodiaz, Texas with a single mother(it always fucking is). I don't see how he could have saved that much money by the time he was 18 working the kind of jobs that are available in that area.

>>64103663
It’s called a credit card, nigga

>>64103663
He was working at McDonalds and some other little shit jobs. $2k isnt that difficult to save up when you have no obligations, even if you’re only getting $200-$300 a week.

>>64103638
Canted flash-hider? You’re talking about the 3-prong on my A1? It’s not canted, it’s just set up like that, think of the 3 prongs like a point of an up facing triangle and the top point is in line with the top of the barrel. Pic related is how it looks.

>>64103700
Someone like him wouldn't be approved for a credit card, nigger.

>>64103705
Makes sense actually. Well said.

>>64103731
No, I mistook your DR200 for a K2. The K2 has a canted flash hider and I heard from a youtube review that it affected the muzzle rise by pushing it down at an angle.

>>64103735
On a side note, that losers mom got arrested last year sometimes and if you watch the body cam footage from her arrest you can 100% see why that kid was fucked up, his mothers a fucking wreck and his grandparents did nothing to actually parent him.

>>64103747
Single mothers should be excluded from all welfare programs.

>>64103744
Oh, I couldnt tell you on that, the DR-200 doesn’t have a muzzle brake, it’s just a cup there’s no kind of holes or cut outs in it to actually function like a muzzle brake. I really been meaning to get it taken off because there are threads there it’s just that the cup is soldered on there and you need to melt it with a torch and then even then the shits usually seized so I don’t want to risk fucking it up myself and I don’t want to pay a gunsmith $500 and wait 4 months to get it done.

>>64103744
And I’m pretty positive the purpose of the slanted brake is like that of an AK rifle, the K2 uses a long stroke gas piston extremely similar to the AK so I guess they also took the canted muzzle brake idea as well. Which the whole point is if you’re a right handed shooter the rifle tends to recoil up and to the right so it’s canted to help negate the muzzle rise.

>>64103764
Unfortunate. At least it's an 18" barrel rifle, so the muzzle flash isn't too crazy w/o a flash suppressor.

>>64103793
Imagine shooting it as a left-handed person lol.

>>64103735
>Someone like him wouldn't be approved for a credit card, nigger.
How retarded are you?

>>64103854
>projection
Do you think an 18 y/o McDonald's worker will be approved for a credit card with a $2k credit limit?

>>64103867
>one (1) credit card
Yes, easily.

>>64103867
If he didnt pay directly out of pocket he couldve used one of those payment plans those sites always have available, which if you miss a payment it fucks you hard but you can still get the shit whether you pay or not.

>>64103913
>nigga
>heart-break emoji
Fuck off back to tiktok, broccoli-head.

>>64103867
I got my first credit card with a 5k limit when I was 18, and I was making < 25k/yr then. It doesn't seem that unrealistic to me.

Anyway, this is a retarded hypothetical from some retard saying the new K2s are the choice guns for the would be homicidal.

>>64084132
*looks up Lionheart since I haven’t checked on them in a while because od this post*

O- oh no. wtf happened? They used to have nice looking military style pistols with a nice thanksgiving discount. What are these abominations? They look like props from the Power Rangers. What in the goddamn fuck?!

>>64103577
Mec-Gar 15 rounders for the S&W 5900 series are compatible with the DP51 and are far easier to find. I think Lionheart also sells baseplates for those that make 'em fit better.

>>64088205
>HOA rage thread
That's a thing? Where?

>>64086557
Is the Kahr CM9 le good? I'm looking for a nice slim single stack 9mm pistol for CCW'ing.

>>64103446
WOULD A PENINSULA GOOK

You're just gay and a nogunz if you don't want one; simple as.

>>64085113
lol

>>64105051
Yeah I have like 6 5900 series magazine I use for it. I probably should have included that in my message but wasnt thinking too much about it.

>>64084725
>>64084105 (OP)
hell yeah. i dont know anything about these guns but ive seen them in stalker and a few games that feature obscure firearms and i fucking love the look of these things. dunno why

>>64105367
fuck off, there better not be a third person showing up after us who visit the same threads and also like k2's. twos coincidence. 3 means this guns for faggots

>>64105822
back, back in the day some guy just gave me a free email address, he had his own host, i dont get how it works, but it was @jewsdidwtc.com, and he had horsefucker. i cant remember what mine was, but horsefucker@jewsdidwtc.com is burned into my mind. i just wanted a key to minisomething, that piratebay style sight, i just wanted a copy of that metalbot warriors game iso and somehow ended up with a email account that i couldnt fucking use anywhere.

>>64084105 (OP)
Official thread theme (RIP original channel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U_zbLUhTjg

>>64097467
Just wait until the lawyers force them to engrave "FIRES WITHOUT MAGAZINE" and "READ OWNERS MANUAL BEFORE USE"

>>64084117
Oi, got a loicense for those mean words?

>>64084105 (OP)
Anything actually noteworthy about these, or...?

I hope they offer a version with the classic furniture. the new furniture ruins the look and cool factor of the gun. I dont even dislike tacticool stuff, its just that this furniture looks ugly and out of place on the gun

>>64108177
They're basically AKs that use AR magazines and controls.

>>64105822
Where do I get me a pair of those fine pants anon?

>>64103867
Did you miss out on the whole Wells Fargo fiasco with them handing out credit cards to "students" with zero income?

>>64108268
K2S is the classic version without monolithic picatinny rails

>>64111463
Wait, what? I remember them saying MSRP was going to be $1,200.

>>64114280
they said they'd aim for it, not that it was going to be

>>64114563
Pretty big fuckin miss if you ask me.

>>64107174
Keep out of reach of children

>>64084105 (OP)
im gonna buy one simply to shitpost with my wallet if you will

>>64114577
its probably roughly what they make em for in Korea, moving the production to the US (for fair reason) for these US market guns has different costs associated with them. Daewoo/SNT is a HUGE company in Korea and can do a lot of stuff for a lot less money there. Here in the US theyre at the mercy of American supply lines, companies, and labor costs

>>64114563
>I remember them saying MSRP was going to be $1,200.
That's the price before the tariffs were in action.

>>64084435
Who used the monkeys paw? I learned about this bad boy last year here on /k/ and wanted one but only gunbroker had them used. Now I see this. Sometimes things are alright

>>64115477
my b, it was me. I did it but I think I nuked the US economy by getting a orange dickhead elected that does not understand what tariffs are.

Fucking monkey paws man

>>64115163
They're being made in the US, though.

>>64116464
They're going to be shipped over from Worst Korea in a "sporterized" configuration before they're converted with 922r compliance parts in the US just like every other imported rifle. This is why every modern rifle from overseas is so expensive despite being like 1/3 of the price in Europe.

>>64116484
>They're going to be shipped over from Worst Korea in a "sporterized" configuration before they're converted with 922r compliance parts in the US just like every other imported rifle. This is why every modern rifle from overseas is so expensive despite being like 1/3 of the price in Europe.
It's worse than that I'm afraid. H.W. Bush's 1989 import ban is still in effect and bans K2s by name, so SNT Motiv is probably going to be making receivers and simple components in the US and importing parts kits for the complex parts to finish the guns here. This is how all post 1994 AUGs in the US have been made since they returned to market in 2015.

>>64084105 (OP)
Wake me up when the Howa Type 89 and the SAR-21 are sold in the US.

>>64119034
Howa sucks so bad that the Japs are getting rid of it

>>64119678
Probably has more to do with the fact that the average age of those rifles is double the age of the soldiers currently using them.