Thread 64086678

Walther Wednesday Edition

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Previous dumpster fire: >>64077493

Welp, see you guys next LE Tuesday!

The only people I know that own p320s bought them because they are "the military's sidearm".

>>64086702
Those guys were all got.
That is exactly the play Sig was making.

Anybody use a shadow 2 carry?
I keep going back to it as the probable next get. hnnng, fuck my wallet

>>64086712
Was getting caught part of Sig's plan?

>>64086725
It doesn't matter because now everyone who bought Sigs is suffering massive sunk cost.

$100 p320 when?

>>64086740
I wouldn't even buy one at $100.

>>64086755
>a high chance of getting a safe and cheap striker
why not?

>>64086755
Fool, buy it for the memes which will force it to hold value over time. Just don't keep one in the chamber.

>>64086733
>>64086762

first gun I bought was a p320, then like a day later the world went apeshit about it. Sold it and got a Staccato P. Another day later and it too gets the not-drop-safe rep.
I decided to just not suck at holding guns since apparently me purchasing is what dissolves a gun's reputation. Still got my balls

>>64086762
>chance

>>64086784
One of my coworkers bought a p320 as soon as he could after it won the trials. He bought holsters, mags, and all sorts of stuff. Then a day after it all arrived in the mail our department banned the gun for both on duty and off duty use. Sucks to suck.

>64086686
Fake ragequit 4chan Tuesday when?

Schizo pastebin is trying to get /arg/ and /hg/ to fight.

>>64086998
Mental illness is a serious issue folks. Lotta mentally ill people make the internet their life and think pissing into an ocean of piss matters. Sad! Many such cases! Maybe if they got a job and went shooting they'd be in a better mood!

>>64087039
You live rent free in SP's mind.

Called 4 places today asking if anyone had a shadow 2 carry to hold. Got 4 boomers, all sub gen alpha IQ, could barely navigate the question, 2 had never heard of the gun, one was so old and brainfried they gave up on the call entirely, and one tried to argue with me that the carry and the compact are the same gun model. Every one sounded pissed that I called at all.
How the fuck is every boomer gunshop employee this retarded? It's always like this.

Had a truly awful day at the range. Worst groups I have ever shot. Too embarassed to post them. How do I cope?

>>64087063
Hopefully you saved one round for yourself.

Handguns are obsolete and if they were banned, nobody of worth would notice.
They should have been on the NFA frankly.

>>64087074
This you bro? >>64087053

>>64086713
never touched one but i do have a p01 used it as a ccw for like a year. then stopped carrying it.
its a horrible carry gun. yeah you could carry it if you wanted to but you can say the sameshit about a fullsize 1911. you are not going to want to carry it after 2-3 months.
that looks bigger and bulkier than a p01.

im sure its a nice shooter/range toy but if you actuallly intend to carry it hahaha.

>>64086702
I worked with a half Arabic mutt that got one for that exact reason. He never carried it because "it was uncomfortable". He was massively obese.
>>64086784
Muzzle down drop only isn't as big of a deal unless you're on a second floor. Plus now you have a gun built for heroes™

>>64087159
No complaints about the stacc here, it shoots like butter and I'm a single homeowner. The p320 kept looking at me with murderous intent though so it had to go.

>>64087054
They make enough from ammo sales and transfer fees that they don't have to worry about keeping up with new releases to stay open.
But here's the real question. Would you rather spend 1500 on the shadow 2 carry. Or save a few hundred and get a p01 with a decocker and get it optics cut? It's gonna have a better trigger even if you don't cajunize it. Just food for thought.

>>64087054
I once called a fudd shop for availability on a gun and the old man on the phone said "Son, we have 16,000 firearms. If it exists, we have it."

They did not.

>>64086678 (OP)
wait what happened with sig today?

>>64086530
I won't lie I think this looks swanky as hell, but I don't have a matching black dress uniform so it would look dumb on me.
Sportsman's guide has "surplus" (maybe) leather holsters for the 92 that looks like that but I've heard some mixed reviews of that site

>>64086687
>I take it that's a revolver thing?
Yes, included in (almost) every smith revolver is a little keyhole that disables the action, and a set of stupid ass keys to operate it. It's not super useful, and there have been extremely rare reports that it can activate itself from recoil, rendering gun locked up and useless. However, lots of people carry guns with the lock despite that, and smith does fuck all about it, sometimes releasing versions without the lock for historical accuracy.

>>64087301
I've wanted a nighthawk forever but your post rotation is low iq

>>64086810
>off duty use
Imagine letting your boss tell you what you can and can't do outside of work, lmao

>>64087327
Its because as a cop being off duty may mean going on duty.

>>64087327
agreed, it's embarrassing
>>64087333
bootlicker

>>64087324
I wouldn’t be talking like that with a gun pointed at you

>>64087333
lately I'm convinced that trips are reserved for cucks

>>64087327
It depends if you're on call or not.

>>64087324
I wanted a Nighthawk until I came to this general and discovered they're the poorfag 1911

>>64087365
kek. Which 1911 do I go with for 10mm, bro?

I am drink and just realized that my USP 9 allows me to place the barrrl in the gun upside dow,, and even have a round chambered if I put it in the barrel beforehand.Tried with a casing and a primer and it firess.

Will try firibg later and report results

>>64087379
I went to a local upscale range.

As soon as I got out of my Honda they were laughing at me. I thought the laughter died down as soon as I pulled out my Nighthawk case out of my trunk but as soon as got to my stall and opened it they all started laughing hysterically, they were only catching their breath. One guy was laughing so hard he was rolling around on the floor and knocked over the brass goblin’s bucket.

The RSO came over and asked if I had my EBT card to pay for the lane, the lunch lady at the buffet gave me an extra chicken tender so I wouldn’t “go hungry” that night.

A guy with an SVI INFINITY moved to the lane next to me and didn’t even say anything he just smirked as I jumped whenever his open gun shooting 9mm Major’s muzzle blast would knock over my paper targets on the table. I was so nervous I could barely group since I was shaking so much. It got so bad I fumbled a draw and dropped my nighthawk on the floor, it went off, and everyone laughed. The RSO told me not to pick it up and that the garbage man would take care of it. I have never felt so humiliated

The range janny came over in the Zamboni and picked up my nighthawk for me, he wiped it off and then got the CLP spray bottle and ruined the finish not knowing Nighthawk’s black nitride is very cosmetically fragile. I know he was just trying to be nice on the worst day of my life but it literally could not get any worse.

>>64087382
I bought a Dan Wesson Specialist 10mm and it has early slide stop engagement. I think the recoil forces is bouncing the slide stop upwards, I did not see any markings on the incoming round to indicate that it was rubbing the round. That was the problem my Nighthawk 10mm had, where the top round on the magazine can hit the slide stop and partially engage it while it’s cycling.

>>64086702
>64086712
>>64086725
>64086733
>>64086740
>64086755
SAMEFAG
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The Anti-Sig schizo has to shit up another thread.

>>64087409
>>64087382
also, 2 other anons have 10mm DWs with no issues. I bet I can send it back for this easily, DW should fix it

>>64086740
The official 3d cad file of the P320 leaked, they sent it to a vendor who makes aftermarket components without redacting information + the vendor has very poor cybersecurity

>>64086725
I don't really get what they were thinking. Sure, you can bully small police departments into silence, and completely ignore civilian consumers blowing their own dicks off. But surely, they must have understood that a military sigcident was inevitable and it would blow the lid off this whole thing, right?

>>64087414
Embarassing

>>64086810
As with anything in life, you should never let yourself be a beta tester for the hottest new meme shit.

>>64087402
what will you do with this info?

>>64087402
>USP 9 allows me to place the barrrl in the gun upside dow
truly no compromise

>>64087382
Specialist or Razorback.

>>64086678 (OP)
should I trade a Glock 48 with two mags + $200 for a 92a1 with 4 mags

>>64087592
Of course. Fuck glock. It's the toyota of handguns.

>>64087592
Depends. Is the 48 your only firearm?

Convince me not to get this as my first 10mm pistol. It looks goofy but I feel like it would be very smooth for 10mm\

>>64087653
Make sure you actually hold a 45/10mm Glock before you buy one. I hate the ergos myself. I'm sure it shoots just fine.

>>64087646
No I have a 43x
I just don't want to "trade up" with cash since I might as well have just bought a beretta

Does .38 +P or .357 magnum really lose that much power from a 3" barrel over a 4"?

>>64087301
Reddit updoot bait gun.

Did my floridaguntrader account get hacked or banned?
I can't see my username on my one listing, which is still up. It randomly logged me out and my password no longer works. I tried "forgot password" and it's saying there's no associated email. My ad is still up with just no username and password which doesn't make sense, it's like my username is throwing an error for the site

I accidentally posted my ad on a VPN, but that's not a bannable offense I don't think. I see plenty of ads with IP's from all over the country. And I said CWP preferred in my ad.

>>64087736
>My ad is still up with just no username and password
*my ad is still up with just no username

I don't think I got hacked as I use random, complex password generators for everything and don't click on links. Maybe the site is having a problem/hack of its own or they banned me for the VPN - i mean they do send the forgotten passwords in plaintext over email

>>64087732
http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

Does anyone here blue their guns?

>>64087732
.38 +P, no. .357mag loses substantial potential with every inch of barrel up to like 6in. Even a 16in barrel sees big gains for really hot .357mag. That being said, a .357mag from a 2in barrel is still faster than a .38 from a 4in. People think .38 +P is .357 mag level and it's not even close. 1000fps is not 1,400fps.

My coworker is convinced 32 acp will bounce off someone if they're muscular enough.

>>64087756
>>64087774
Thank you. I'm thinking of getting a .357 Magnum revolver and I'm trying to decide if I should grab the longer barrel one for more muzzle velocity or the shorter one for easier concealment. Also I'm not sure if I'd carry 38 +p or .357 cartridges

Why does my Beretta 84 shoot SO FUCKING HIGH
shooting at 20 yards yesterday and I had to hold 2" below an 8" target to hit the top half of it

>>64087449
Didn't Israel also leak this to China as well lmao

>HS407K X2
good sight in your guy's eyes?

Got the gen 2, I mentioned it a day or two ago
Is the polymer different on these earlier guns? It's almost polished smooth, but it could just be holster wear.
Also the slide racks like butter. Somehow feels a lot better than a gen 5, but that could just be my autismo

>>64087781
I shoot .357mag from a 3in barrel and I feel pretty good about it over a .38.

>>64087811
>chinks come out with new QSZ-320
>they all start shooting each other
mein gott...

>>64087816
Awesome. I'm watching a few of the ones on FB now thanks to you

>>64087812
Yes. The bare minimum of what a red dot should be for carry that is balancing cost, durability (surprisingly well in Sage Dynamics drop tests), and performance.

>>64087816
>plastic
I think they used different formulas back in the day. Old fat A2 grips are like that as well, along with my old Lonestar stowaway grip. They just don't make them like they used to(they use stronger polymer now thus the more coarse texture iirc)

>>64087804
Try different ammo.

>>64087773
I want to. I have a non stainless steel gun that I’m polishing. It’s a lot of work

>>64087816
Early guns were probably more hand fit than later ones. Regarding the polymer I don't think anyone knows, it's plausible Glock has messed with it since, gen 1s and 2s (particularly gen 2 .40s) were notorious for cracking frames under high round counts with hot ammo

I doubt you'll ever have any real problems though, we're talking more ammo than most will put through all their pistols in a lifetime.

>>64087821
Nice J frame

>>64086678 (OP)
Is this the coffee coke of guns

>>64086678 (OP)
Should I feel bad for buying the Bersa's copy of the PPK?

>>64087896
They're fine. But don't. Get something with a locked breach like a G42/Bodyguard/LCP

>>64087661
Kinda creepy chick.

I've said it before, Glock is the Dayton Ohio skyline of guns. If you invite that shit into your life you are predisposed to being miserable and uncreative. And statistically fatherless.

>>64087780
Sounds legit. This is why .44 REMINGTON MAGNUM FOR SASQUACH. I don't trust that fucker.

>>64087918
>statistically fatherless.
Eeww.

>>64087918
Who's the "I grew up in a happy white middle class nuclear family" manufacturer?

>>64087812
absolutely golden
bought a 407k used in january 2024, never even changed the battery and it's still my edc thousands of rounds no issues

>>64087816
did you get the tupperware box?
>>64087901
it's a mater of feeling rather than the best .380 gun, I own said gun in .22lr (Bersa mod 64).

I want to know /hg/ consensus on Bersa now.

>>64087929
Walther

>>64087929
No guns, unironically.

>>64087929
Beretta

>>64087781
I think if you're getting a 357, you should prioritize shooting over concealment. A full power revolver will never be a truly ideal carry piece, but they can be very pleasant to shoot. Go 5" barrel, or even 6. Muzzle flip is extremely mild.

If you really really want to conceal it, go smaller. The loss in velocity won't matter enough to make carrying it less comfortable and convenient.

>>64087773
No, but your mom blue me this morning.

>>64087773
I've done it once. You gotta get a thin coat of rust on it, boil it and card all the rust off. Do it 4 or 5 times until it's deep black.

>>64087934
Bersa is ok, be weary though but they're okay overall. My mom still loves her 380 plus

>>64087929
Winchester.

>>64086702
I bought a 1911 in 2015 using that logic but I would like to think that design had proven itself by that point.

Went to do the background check on my Standard Mfg. Single Action today. That thing is a gorgeous gun. I can't wait to shoot it (3 day waiting period). I'll have to be content with dry firing my Ruger until then.

>>64087402
yeah psa doingthis was not wise my silde abd my barrel assembly fucked right off somewhere and frame is briken

>>64088065
What

You are drink, how go range after become drink

>>64088086
i have garage with bucket and sand. I drink and test guns all time

>>64088065
Oh you poor fool. You’ll wake up with even more regret.

>>64088065
Pictures or fake

>>64087918
>statistically fatherless.
Hey cool it with the racism, buddy.

>>64087894
I NEED a 90-Two
>then buy one
no

>>64088352
Are they rare/expensive?

The 92 is the chef's kiss of handguns

>>64088366
Yes. Not prohibitively expensive but it doesn’t do more than any of my other 92s or PX4s

>>64087653
Glocks are always a good decision. You could be getting a Sig!

The worst Sig has more character than the best glock

>>64088440
>more character
A gun is not a replacement for a lack of personality akin to a beard not being a replacement for a lack of a jawline.

>>64088433
What the fuck are you wearing

>>64088447
>not posting the real pic

>>64088440
Only if you're talking about classic P220s or P226s or some shit. There is nothing that modern Sig makes with any amount of soul that could be considered "personality". I don't even like Glock as a concept but modern Sig is... come on, dude. They're awful. At least my P365 doesn't go off when I don't mean it to and the one I bought doesn't have any fucking striker drag.

The P320 is an incredibly stupid looking pistol.

>>64088457
>classic P220s
NTA but they're fun

It's beautiful

>>64088513
It's like if a child drew a gun

Thoughts on the 92a1? Going to pick one up as my first Beretta. Not worried about holster compatibility since JM Custom Kydex has me covered.

I'm wondering how the grip will fit my hand. For reference the SP01 with palm swells fits my hand like a glove. So does the gen 3 glock 34 which I believe is the same size as gen 5 with the medium backstrap.

Is the Trijicon dovetail mount any good?

>>64088513
The p320 looks so odd. It's obvious where the hammer should go but it's just not there

>>64088571
If you're looking at an M9A1, they're a great form factor for someone with that hand type, but you should go to PSA and look at the deals they're doing with the LTT 92s. They are basically M9A1 frames with M9A3 slides, with some parts being stainless or coated.

>>64088571
Dovetail mounts aren’t good but it’s not like it’s taller than the OEM beretta plate system. The LTT plate system is decently low.

The 92A1 I try not to recommend to people since the slide and recoil assembly are proprietary to the 92A1/90-Two. It’s a developmental dead end of the 92 family. The 92X has multiple aftermarket wraparound grips that mimic the “old” style but better since they get more texture onto the back straps. Langdon’s thin VZ 92 grips have swells but the LOK ones have big swells

>>64086678 (OP)
>CZ thread disappeared

Do ALL CZ-75 models made in 2025 have the 50th Anniversary engraving/paint? https://www.czfirearms.com/en-us/products/pistols/cz-75-series?tab=0

A local store had PCRs with standard version product numbers/UPCs but inside were 50th guns. It looks like they are throwing them in random boxes.

>>64087894
An apt comparison.

>>64088513
I don't mind the looks of the p320 at all but they look far better with the wilson combat module on them

>>64087889
what camera set up do you use, so I may take better pictures of my firearms ontop of photographs of oriental women that are scantily clad

>>64087295
there are some delete kits you can buy for the internal lock. not sure how i feel about a $1k+ revolver needing aftermarket parts right out of the box but that's just the state of things now

>>64088810
you need no kit for the delete, the "kit" is just a plug for the hole

>>64088513
the first time i saw this gun i thought, wow that looks like a big pile of shit and is probably all kinds of fucked up i dont even want to touch that fucking thing. i didnt know anything about it at the time. im just intuitionmaxxed. i dont even have to look up Early Life anymore. and now with all the 320 fuckery my intuition is vindicated once again. that is all

bought a Star BM from LGS for 200$ (helluva deal i know) but before the barrel link could break the mag catch sheared off, picrel. Mag drops after a few rounds of firing now.
Could I add some weld material from a welder and then file it off to match the original specs?

>>64088934
yes

or 10 dollars (5% of the total cost)
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1114674883

>>64088939
thanks senpai. i shoot my shit alot so i don't want another 50 years old mag catch to sheer again next week. really just thought the barrel link was the only flaw on these

What's the point of the 92 Brigadier?

>>64089010
Thicker heavier slide since at the time heavier = better, people today prefer to minimalize reciprocating mass. It was designed to be more heavy duty by thickening the slide (because beretta and Walther p38 slides would snap in half by the locking block, beretta fixed it mostly) and “reduced” recoil by being 300g heavier than the normal 92. It has a different recoil impulse compared to the 92, not major, I wouldn’t say it’s less or more. It also has a dovetail front sight which the 92FS and M9 lacked. In common usage the brigadier was a more sporty/competition shooting gun than the 92FS.

The border patrol would then buy hundreds of thousands of these and shoot the spiciest .40 S&W ammo possible and crack the aluminum frames within 15k rounds or so. While Ben Stoeger claims to have 100k+ rounds through several brigadiers in 9mm (several guns, 100k each).

>>64088906
And then everybody clapped

Tried Jollibee for the first time tonight. It was just ok.

>>64089043
Mildly jelly

Jollibee pops up in 3 months while In-n-Out takes 6+ years to not open any restaurants.

>>64088786
This was a7sii with 65mm lens but that look really comes from ceiling bounced flash

>>64089069
Here's my chicken sandwich power rankings:
1. Popeyes
2. Chick fil a
3. Wendy's
4. Jollibee

>>64089043

You should've gotten the spaghetti. My flip coworkers say it's amazing.

>>64089090
Looks about right

>>64089115
Last time I had it was in CA but I remember it just being super sweet, otherwise unremarkable but for being available in a drive through

>>64089115
The spaghetti is the one on the top left. It was fine. The peach mango pie was the star of the show.

>>64089115
It’s amazing if you have the tastebuds of a child and like overly sweet and bland things, the chicken is good though.

>>64089131
>Last time I had it was in CA

>>64089069
>>64089090
>>64089131
You're not eating all this yourself, right?

New hipster gun

Looks cool

>>64089131
>>64089132
>>64089136

Good to know. I had the Jolibee fried chicken once and it wasn't bad, actually pretty good, but it's far enough out of the way that I never went back. That said the best fast food fried chicken I've ever had was at a Bojangles inside CLT. Maybe it was because I was jet lagged as shit waiting for a connecting flight, but it was amazing stuff. Made me feel like I was home.

>>64089157
Why would I choose this over 38/357?

>>64089069
>>64089090
>>64089043
For me, it's Culver's Custard, Butter Burgers and Krinkle Cut fries.

>>64089043
>>64089069
Is Jollibee good? I’ve never heard of them, but it’s relatively close to me, I have to go about an hour out of my way. Is it worth it?

>>64089224
fuck yeah we're gonna fuck

pretty good range day today

>>64089268
jolliebee in phillipines is excellent. jollibee in america is slightly above average for fastfood.possibly better than kfc if your kfc is an average one. if its a good kfc, kfc is better but i feel like kfcs gone to shit.

>>64089370
Word vomit

Good first baby 45 acp gun?

>>64089709
>baby 45 acp
Shield 45

>>64089202
Ammo compatibility with primary sidearm comes to mind.

>>64087833
>more durable than a trijicon
>bare minimum

>>64089202
9 is cheaper than .38 if you dont reload.

>>64089157
I currently carry a Colt Detective Special and may consider swapping it out for this just to have better ammo logistics so I can justify some more practice with this thing. Idk though, 1000$ price tag is a limiting factor

>>64087934
Ive had a Bersa Thunder 380 for about 7 or 8 years and put a lot of rounds through it. Its actually very comfy, accurate to shoot and conceal. Only malfunctions I think have been to cheap surplus ammo with bad primers I think. Changed ammo and no issues over 2k rounds.
I got mine for $200, I think they can still be had now for less than $300. From my experience great pistols for the price. I trust mine for CCW purposes.

>>64089304
What's that on the pdp? a gas pedal?

Is 44 Magnum still relevant?

>>64090176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yoMrvGgBrk

You tell me

>>64090176
I have a 629 with a 6.5in barrel and it's probably my favorite thing to shoot by a lot. It hits steel harder than anything else I have. Doing hostage rescue shots on a steel swinger is hilarious.

Sig P211s are shipping, better watch yourselves at the range, wear IIA or better

>>64089304
What's the raging hunter chambered in, feel any better than most wheel guns to shoot?

>>64089268
It's not 1 hour detour good.

>>64090628
Oh no, its retarded.

>>64089774
This is true.

>>64090628
It just looks stupid as fuck.
Why would I want this over a Staccato or Kimber?

>>64089878
>1000$ price tag is a limiting factor

picrel is $759 at link. Probably find it cheaper elsewhere and Rugers do hold up.

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/ruger-sp101-9mm-luger-225in-stainless-revolver-5-rounds/p/1506899

>>64089878
Just get into hand loading .38s

It's not that pricey, and if you don't go crazy hot on your load you can use the same brass practically forever.

Under 4 grains of W231(HP38) gives you 900fps
And Berry's plated wadcuttas go on sale all the time

>>64090698
P320 magazines! Cheaper than staccato magazines except duramag (35 dollars) and checkmate (60 dollars) 2011 mags now exist. Or that Glock mag 2011s exist, it’s late to the market by like 4 years

>>64090621
Thanks, honestly this is far more convincing explanation why it's still so popular than nostalgia about that movie with a lucky punk or weird tales about handgun hunting.

>>64090715
Where can I buy bubbas pissin hot loads instead of making them myself

>>64090744
Become the bubba

>>64087402
>I am drink
>Will try firibg
Based

>>64090628
Sigs new slide cut is just so awful looking.

This fun might actually look great with a classic P220/226 style slide cut.

>>64090744
Buffalobore
No one does it better on chasing power
Real pistol test data too from multiple barrel lengths

>>64090787
If it’s a real 1911 slide then you can slip on one of their old Sig 1911 slides that’s P220 shaped

>>64087039
You have great taste in guns, friend :)

>>64090082
its a bolt-on comp with a gas pedal, yeah

>>64090633
38/357 and yeah that thing feels great to shoot but I want to swap the grip out

So did springs in this thing and helped the trigger pull a lot. Now doing a TKC rebound slide and cyl stop to see if i can get it to be nearly smooth at an 8 pound trigger pull without even doing a mating surface job yet. Also the rear sights from the factory are way low so going to have to replace the blade with taller ones.

>>64090885
looks like she could use a good polish.

>>64090885
Mountain gun? Want.

>>64089304
>A fellow tanfogli-bro
Our numbers grow

>>64087063
It's happened to all of us anon, don't beat yourself up. I'll share a previous range trip with you to make you feel better
>Hit range with sweet new guns, still pretty new to shooting at this point
>Shoot my PSA dagger, hey wow this is pretty fun
>Optic flies off because I didn't know what proper torque was and didn't do any research on mounting optics
>Have to ask old range grandpa to let me go down range to grab it
>Red face so I just shoot a 938
>After one mag won't go back into battery
>Turns out the thread protector had walked itself backwards and was stopping the slide (didn't realize at the time)
>At this point so demoralised and out of it I loaded 9mm into my 1911 without realising and shot it
That's probably the worst range day I ever had, looking back it was comical how I kept messing up.
Something that helped me get better groups was doing my dryfire standing. I realized that I tend to shake when I'm standing so my sitting dryfire wasn't carrying over very much.

>>64090972
Embarrassing range story time?
>slap-happy from total sleep deprivation
>shooting HK CC9
>REALLY gripping it and mag dumping at 10 yards for laughs
>decent groups
>MAG CHANGE TIME
>mag goes flying across the range horizontally
>have to use the sweeper to yank it back from down range like 5 lanes down

Didn't die of embarrassment, and me and the RO officer laughed about it
But man did I look like a jackass lol

>>64090972
I wasn’t paying attention and put a round of 10mm into my Nighthawk .45

>>64087816
That's an early gen 2, the stamping spacing is different on mine on the slide

I don’t have any 45 acp but I want a 1911 and a USP. Which FMJs should I be buying for range use and which JHPs should I buy for HD?

>>64091277
230gr ball for range use and 185gr +P JHP for defense. Brand doesn’t really matter for premium ammo but I like PPU and Blazer for range use, can usually find good deals on those.

>>64090972
>have gun permit in really restrictive city
>member of gun club, it’s literally all cops and fbi etc
>shoot my main really well
>always nervous at the range, there’s no guests allowed no friends nobody to shoot “with”
>get new gun after all the hoops and two transfers
>it’s a metal race gun
>go to shoot
>shoot it terribly
>guy in lane next to me is some sort of detective or fed
>my groups with my main are good, switch to brand new heavy ass race gun
>groups are terrible
>he pops his head into my lane to say something
>being me, nervous alone and autistic, I don’t here him
>remove ear po to listen
>he tells me my groups got really bad
>I can’t hear him over the indoor range booms
>akwardly tell him it’s a new gun
>he goes back go shooting .45
>the flat hollow boom of 45 ringing in my ears
>shoot Glock, launch tlr7 into the range cause I, retarded and didn’t put it on correctly
>pack up and leave

I haven’t been back to the range since.


I wish my dad would come with me. I hate the range now.

>>64091331
Why do I even come here? This place is full of spergs.

>>64091363
I doubt you would even qualify for guns where I live.

>>64091331
bro shit happens. Also, who cares what a bunch of glowies think? And even more importantly, who cares what some douchebag thinks or says? The type of person who makes a remark like 'your groups really bad' instead of maybe offering some constructive criticism/pointers etc is a total fucking faggot. Don't let a faggot spoil your fun at the range

>>64091400
This was exactly my thought, like wtf he should mind his own Business. I’m pretty handy with guns, shoot tight groups, shoot trap etc, and I bought a striker fired steel race gun (Walther q5) it was my first time shooting it.

The club itself is kinda weird because it’s a quasi social club and all the employees are literal masons at a local lodge.

The guy was maybe being friendly? Idk. Alot of the members are normal but if you don’t have a badge some of them are super rude. There’s no RO and it’s all self styled so if you want training or anything you need to go to a different range.

My city has a very small number of permits in circ (less than 5000 total held by non cops) so everyone knows each other. It’s kinda small and you have to be polite because if you get a permit you basicly are a glownigger yourself.

What’s akward is the range culture desu. Everybody knows everybody and there’s no privacy. There’s some other ranges but they are farther away and same vibe.

Sometimes I wish there was just a large corperate gun store/range that did classes etc.

It is what it is.

Tbh I think I bought more “gun” than I need.

>>64091372
>bragging about being the goodest goy
faggot, i bet you're wearing a facemask right now

>>64091432
It’s ok you feel that way.

>>64090984
>tfw one time threw my mag forward like some fps game retard when doing drills with my carry
>spilled my spaghetti to the RO when some normie pointed out my mag to him as I initially was too embarrassed to call a ceasefire and was going to take the mag as a loss

>>64091437
put that metal race gun in your mouth and pull the trigger

>>64091445
Yes, this surely shows that your calm cool and collected and should carry a firearm with you about your trips to Walmart to buy food with ebt.

>>64091449
Congratulations on passing a basic test any sociopath can.

>>64091454
Thanks. The next time you go to target to buy clothes and food think of me. :)

>>64091467
I will when I'm passing the pride section

>>64091467
Let me guess, you shop at Whole Foods and buy processed shit or something and think you're better than Slopsharters.

>>64091477
I don’t shop desu. I eat out.

>>64091485
Grim.

>>64091486
Yeah but think about the hustle and bustle of the city and having ackward range experiences!

Who are these people?

>>64091501
I live in a city of 130k and work a biomedical manufacturing job and there's 20 grocery stores within 30 minutes drive on uncongested grids and interstate roads, I can't imagine the cope some 90k/year officecuck wagie has to perform when they pay 90 dollars a day on food in some hive city shithole run by Democrats.

>>64091531
If I only made 90k a year I wouldn’t get a permit.

>>64091331
Go tell r*ddit

>>64091558
Grim.

>>64091561
Post a gun rn

>>64091587
Brother

>>64091558
Commiefornia?

Anyone here buy a new production Colt Defender? Curious if its a good buy for sub 900.

>>64091589
Its the gayest gun I own by far

>>64091531
Honestly pretty said how awful Democrat policies have turned the former crown jewels that are current New York, LA, etc into absolute shit holes while cities like Shanghai and Chongqing are more advanced, organized, cleaner, and with less homeless people (they get forced into labor camps)
There is a fine middle ground between totalitarian police state shithole that is China and whatever the fuck Dems are doing that we should strive to achieve in the US, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. If I HAD to live in a dystopian hive city with no gun ownership, I would sooner sing the praises of Mao and live in Shanghai than I would New York City.
Thankfully I'm American and live in a small rural town

i want to believe

>>64091021
Fug. What else happened?

>>64091277
230gr. Fiocchi or S+B. Never get Winchester White Box.

>>64091656
Hopefully when US industry kicks back up there will be a resurgence of the conservative Union Democrats that will at least make their cities not crime riddled drug dens.

>>64091277
People like Winchester white box since it’s super dirty so it makes your gun look super cool. Personally my favorite ammo is Winchester Red Box since it’s a flat point and makes nice round holes in targets.

For defense, Federal HST or Winchester Ranger T

>>64091711
America’s golden age is over and its never coming back as long as we have parasitic Jews sending all of our money to Israel.

>>64091791
There will be an inevitable revamp of national industry just for the sake of national security if we have to go into another cold war scenario with China.

>>64091804
Not a chance. Chinese production will just move to other slave populations, like India, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. Globalist kikes will do ANYTHING but help Americans.

>>64091814
Tupperware went out of business because it made cheap plastic goods that didn't wear out quickly enough to warrant even generational replacement.

Hey /hg/ want to provide a funny update to this
>>64087736
>>64087742
Apparently the admin ban swept like a thousand accounts by prefix because some retard scammer botted a thousand accounts with the same name as me and just different numbers behind it. I happened to get swept up.

They made a new account for me so I'm squared away. It was pretty funny because I was using the site yesterday, I went to edit my listing and all of a sudden my account was just deleted. First two things I did was post here and message the admin

What comp should I get for my turkatto? I was thinking the Strike Industries quad comp

>>64090984
I was testing a WML on my 80x, but i didn’t tighten it down enough. It flew off the rail and landed in the booth next to me. I had to ask the person if they could grab for me. Very embarrassing, I felt like a retard.

Light or magazine that flew off at the range is the one that will not fly off during a competition or a gunfight

Sig Romeo RS Compact
C L E A R
L
E
A
R
is IN STOCK finally $169.nice
Fits a common footprint (Shield) unlike the larger Pro.

https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/798681721528

>>64089069
Jesus christ, that's gotta be at least 12,000 calories.

>>64092022
Paint it black

>>64091995
Yeah. First time I tried some eBay 3d printed light key (the thing that sticks in the rail) it snapped and flew my light down range. A former green beret called a cease fire and ran down range to get it for me, what a nice guy, I thanked him for his service

>>64092022
If I had the spending money I would so get this

Noguns here. My understanding is that rotating barrel pistols are rare because the shorter barrel means the rotation does not reduce recoil in a meaningful way. True? If so, why does anyone bother developing them?

>>64092034
I don’t think they reduce recoil, but reduces muzzle rise instead. A rotating barrel introducing at one issue I can think of. You will have trouble keeping any kind of muzzle accessory attached and secured.

>>64092034
Rotating barrels are rare since few people ever took the time to develop them. It’s extremely hard to change course of institutions, it took a long time for automatics to become standard with police, a long time for polymer striker fired guns to dethrone DA/SA hammers, etc. I remember one cop still carrying a Colt SAA .45 Long Colt into the 60s (he killed dozens of men with it) because it was what he knew.

Sticking with your existing tilting barrel design that’s widely used by the industry is cheaper than designing a novel rotating barrel design.

>>64092082
You forgot to include the guns in the estimate.

>>64092082
ask it why burt is a fat disgusting slovenly piece of shit

>>64086740
They are buying them at $50-$100 then selling them for MSRP to retards

>>64092111
I did, it just said yo mama.

>>64087682
Reminder that Trump does have a HK chambered in 45, meaning that he may have a USP or USPC

>>64092125
Can they be fixed easily?

>>64092133
Maybe if you had a cnc machine or something like a kit from a buy back program.

>>64088577
Why beavertail if no get tail or beaver?

Should I carry 9mm critical duty or critical defense?

>>64092213
Duty is better if you have it

>hornady
>vax

>>64092213
Duty is better for blind barrier penetration. If you’re not worried about shooting through a windshield or a car door, critical duty might be best. Critical duty has the flex tip tech (a “high tech” rubber stub in the hollow point cavity). It’s suppose to be better for maintaining the hollow point structure for flesh penetration. So, instead of the bullet expanding in the layer of a jacket and dumping its energy early, it should remain intact until it hit muscle.

>>64092236
I meant critical defense

>>64091331
Either people never talk loud enough or my doubled up earpro is too good because I always have to get people to repeat themselves. Perfect storm for misunderstandings. Id go back to the range if I were you. It's not like the staff remember every single person who launches their lights downrange and laughs at them.

>>64092022
Very cool but you forgot one thing. I can't get a Taurus spectrum cut for an optic.

>>64092302
Just curve the bullet, you have no need for an optic.

>>64091612
Wish I had hands on experience to help you. For a brand new one maybe, but it's kinda expensive for what it is. I guess there's not many 3" 1911s being made rn.

General information:

The battery in my Horoxhun 407K died. The "Holosun" branded battery lasted 857 days or 20,568 hours from first install. Well short of its advertised """up to""" 50,000 hours, and the gun was barely used (~600 rounds in that time) meaning it spent almost all of that time asleep on a shelf, but still. 2.3 years is implessive from those little 1632 batts. I ain't even mad

>>64092343
>holosun

>>64092363
Nonono, >>64092022

>>64092383
Good.

>>64092236
>>64092217
gonna get a box of both fuck it

I got a box of Liberty Overwatch in 10mm because I needed JHPs that weren't unreliable Ammo Inc trash in Commiefornia. What kind of ride am I in for? Velocity and weight wise the thing gets like 700+ ft/lbs but it's a lightweight fragmenting hollowpoint.

>>64092487
It’s a lightweight fragmenting hollow point. I’ve seen some where it ditches all the fragments and the core punches deep, giving the best of both worlds of performance

>>64092022
Drippy. Coolest thing they've done since shake awake pistols. Might have to get one. Are they just launching?

>>64092492

Sounds cool. Shit was like $45 for 20 rounds because lmao commieland, so I was definitely hoping it'd work.

Ben Stoeger said Holosuns have the most durability in his experience.
It's over, trijicoons. You kowtow before Chang now.

>>64092524
Or perhaps reddots just aren't worth it in general?

>>64092536
They absolutely are.

Why should I, an expert marksman, ever use such a device?

neat

>>64092505
They were announced about 3 months ago, they were in stock at Sig's own webzone at full price about 1.5 months ago, but they are now showing up at retailers for under MSRP

>>64092524
WTF??? I hate Ben now

>>64092540
dots are for fags

>>64092559
You know what's for fags? Weed.

>>64092549
I fucking hate the last inch or so. Terrible.

>>64092564
I like it :)

>>64092506
The double tap .40 super does that, .45 super necked down to .40 caliber

>>64092568
Disgusting. Makes me think of a dick going limp.

>>64092343
My primary arms red dot only last 2.5 years. Forget what it's advertised at. Currently have my only Aimpoint sitting at 2 years, no problemo.

Signing off.

>>64092568
I like my ramjet/afterburner despite the gay af name. But that looks retarded at a glance. That being said I kinda thought the same thing about the comp until I gave it a try and now it's never coming off so I'll wait to see what they have to say

>>64087414
>>64087453
NTA but the very simple fact that you responded so quickly just proves you are a schizo.
Please get some help
God loves you and wants you to be happy.

>>64092568
Looks like it'll reduce sound by about 6db and cost $900. Truly a fool's product.

>>64092564
>>64092576
For me, it needs a physiognomy check.

It's also worth noting is its lack of a booster. That means it's probably made out of titanium. My titanium 9 cans are super light without boosters. Makes handguns point way more naturally.

>>64092561
true, every weedfag nowadays has a pistol dot

Peppermint schnapps and mocha frappe are an amazing combo ngl
>>64086678 (OP)
Nice PP

>>64092886
This is one of the most poverty coded images I've ever seen.

>>64092641
He's talking about you fagboy

>>64092964
That’s an imported Turkish rug stained with royal purple. The most expensive dye in the classic world https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple

Are micro 9's a bitch to shoot?

>>64087402
i was going to post about this being a walther thread with no walthers, and here you are
thanks for firibg

>>64089157
>memeclips
>lol9mm
>revolver capacity
in what world would i want this over a .357

>>64093200
>memeclips
what's wrong with moomclips? i've never touched one

>>64093119
i got you bro

>>64093113
My main complaint is if you try to shoot them a lot when its really hot out my sweaty hands slip around trying to get a good grip. Otherwise I like mine for a shoot one mag and get the fuck out of there kind of carry.

>>64092976
I bought a Turkish rug off Amazon for 50 bucks to put in my garage.

>>64093207
nta but I consider inferior to speed loaders. They lightweight, smaller and easier to use than speed loaders, but they can deform in such a way that they cause a malfunction and prevent you from firing the gun. Speed loaders are ridged and are easier to load/unload new and spent rounds. The problem with them is that they’re bulky, making them harder to conceal and carry. They can also introduce a bad habit at the range, where instead just dropping the loader on the ground, you might take that extra second to put the loader in your pocket. There are speed strips/clips which can lay flat in your pocket. They’re a good in between option. Not faster than speed loaders, but easier to carry than both options and won’t cause a malfunction.

god damn phlster's web store looks like a junkmail ad for self defense flashlights.

>>64093113
Glock micros are pretty nice to shoot, my gen 1 shield is bigger yet it hurts after four mags and kicks like I owe it money. P365 is the same but less and only hurts my hand because the standard p365 is just too small for me.

>>64094517
The fuck you talking about? Glock micros are actually the flippiest, kickiest micros out there

Glock is perfect. Shut your whore mouth before I shut it for you, sigger.

>>64091832
>>64087736
I logged in because of your post and saw all of my old listings are gone. Not in active, not in expired either. I had stopped logging in to check my messages because I was getting repeated waves of scam messages so I just gave up on the site. Now I can't go back and renew my expired listings and have to make them from scratch which is fucking annoying.

>>64093271
What the frig made me do a doubletake

>>64094793
yes burt, we've talked about this before
I sneak into your gun room and take it from your pistol wall when you're busy on your 4th or 5th burger

>>64094855
I slip in when he’s in his diabetic coma to rearrange his guns out of order

He uses a modified version of the Dewey decibel system to arrange his firearms

>>64094855
Sorry I'm a bit addled of late

>>64094855
what is this upper

Anyone using a Glock Ghost 3.5 Edge connector? Might throw one in my G34 range-shooter

>>64094976
I've got one. It's light but there is a lot of creep. It's basically a normal Glock pull but light. I prefer the tactical 5.0 because it's tactile and there is a crisp break and reset.

>>64094983
when I don't get in on deals I see I always tell myself "I have no reason to believe this won't be around later." ammo being an exception. then this shit happens.

>>64094983
Wasn't the entire point of the COA Glock that Glock has 1 year exclusive rights to the footprint? And they can't meet demand?
Either this shit is popular as fuck or Glock didn't have that much faith in the COA and underestimated demand.

>>64095052
Any agency buying a Glock to replace the P320 is probably buying Glock COAs

>>64095062
M&Pbros....

>>64095071
I remember the ICE memo when they dropped the P320 was “you have 10 business days to have a plan to equip all officers effected with Glock 19s with RDS”, the Glock COA is probably the easiest way to do it

US Marshals are dropping the P320 too.
Legitimately over. The Bud Light of guns.

>>64095110
I thought they used Staccatos, the Marshalls sent to Portland had Staccato Ps with DPPs on them

I wish they were allowed to go weapons free

>>64092975
But I don’t smoke weed nor do I engage in pistol dot homosexuality. If you’re going to try to insult me at least make an effort.

>>64095119
The illegal immigrant drug addict troll we have here in the thread hates red dots and keeps asking to duel me in combat.

He’s saying you and him are the same.

>>64094549
Maybe the slimlines, Glock 26 is surprisingly pleasant to shoot.

>>64095130
Asian women are hot but the threat of a mixed race gook baby is too much to bear.

>>64094999
Thanks for the feedback
And checked

>>64095140
Scared of the master race?

>>64094970
Faxon ARAK-21

It's very cool looking and the features are nice and the build quality is on par with my LWRC except I fucked with the adjustable gas block and now it doesnt run right and I dont have time to spend all day fucking with it

>>64092022
Does backordered mean they already ran out? (On scopelist)

>>64095071
It's so sad, m&p didn't want m&p, and for civilian carry market they made shield that with the latest xl model just looks like a direct upgrade to m&p. S&W did everything right, and still fell short.

>>64095196
very cool. how's the weight? accuracy? looks like a chonkler

>>64095196
>Faxon ARAK-21
my interest has been piqued.

>>64086678 (OP)
always a good day when you get a new gun
can't wait to shoot it

>>64095340
derp

>>64095343
>>64095340
Please give us updates, people ask about these but I have no positive information to regurgitate about it

How’s the trigger (please use a snap cap or something and not break it immediately)

>>64095291
its a monolithic upper and very beefy. The entire recoil system is in the upper and is completely bufferless, so I could put a folding stock on it if I wanted to. Also being able to see through the upper when the bolt is back is neat

>>64095243
It must :( sorry bro

When I placed my order it had the very clear words "GUARANTEED IN STOCK!" instead of that. Looks like they heebed the price back up to MSRP too. Somebody will get them in stock sooner or later, it's not like they're super good optics or whatever, just cheap for """US made""" and a cool gimmick of clear housing

>>64095377
Dang it's ok you tried to get me to buy and I foolishly slept on it instead of gunsooming. Never again.

>>64095351
lol CZ figured out to actually provide snap caps with the gun
trigger is decent out of the box but a bit gritty
SA is probably around 3lbs and DA at around 9-9.5lbs
though that's just based on my own sense of feel and nothing truly measured
I'm hoping the grit will smooth out as I use it
plan on putting 1-200 rounds through it over the weekend so I'll post again

>>64092886
>PP
never reply to me again, degenerate.

>>64095353
well I hadn't planned on another ar...

>>64092241
>>64092236
>>64092213
>>64092217
Ended up getting some underwood xtreme defense and critical defense

>>64087063
>How do I cope?
blame the gun and move on with a clear mind

Investigators concluded that Brayden Lova's death was a false flag and have arrested his fellow airman as the suspected perpetrator. Sig Sauer P320 [M18 / M17] absolved!

>>64095110
More like cyber truck
Hyped and then single-handedly crippled the previously dominant company that designed it as its crowning achievement

>>64095701
Can’t believe Sig framed a guy

Not only did they kill an airman they are willing to ruin the life of another as a scapegoat

>>64095701
Damn, that is wild. I’m curious to learn more.

>>64095707
I've voted for Trump three times and will vote for him again if no one else compares to him and I'm just sick of Elon's retardation.

>>64095701
When can we expect the avalanche of apologies from the last month's shitposters?

Is there a "recommended" printable target for newfags?

>>64095792
Government cover up, throw one guy under the bus and save hundreds of millions, and also get bribes from Sig Sauer

>>64095818
If you're printing targets out on paper a basic 4 inch diameter circle with a bullseye will do you fine. If you want to be optimal you can stick a bunch of 2 inch wide circles on a basic sheet of printer paper easily.

>>64095818
Not here I’ve seen. But you can use paper plates or masking tape on blank paper or cardboard

>>64095832
>2 inch
Why are you giving advice when you shoot at targets 5 feet away?

>>64095847
I'm simply answering a question without knowing that anon has access to more than a basic printer.

>>64095720
>>64095749
>>64095821
He's not even the first shooter who's tried to blame it on the P320

>>64095847
2 inches should still be usable up to 7 yards away.

>>64095855
That's baby distance.

>>64095859
Its both baby distance and a distance most can't get touching groups at with their carry let alone a full sized gun with an optic.

>>64095874
Is 7 yards actually that difficult?

>>64095859
Most of what you need to learn as a beginner handgun shooter is at 7 yards

Shooting pizza box size groups at 25 yards as a noob is just going to waste ammo and never show him what to improve

>>64095876
Stack every round into the same hole at 7 if it’s so easy

>>64095876
Its easy to hit paper and fist sized groups on command at that distance but holes on holes is only something I can do with one of my target pistols or red dot pistols.

>>64095878
You should probably start at 3 yrds if youre a complete beginner.

If you're new, you should probably start at an arm's length from the target.

Bro just post your gun and groupings at 7 yards if you want to talk shit.

>>64095821
Investigation isn't done and we already have unironic (I hope) cope flooding in

>>64095891
Why not 7 if that’s baby distance? Any issues at 7 are going to be more pronounced than what is at 3 and easier to spot

>>64095900
you might get frustrated at 7 yrds, and get turned off to the hobby. When you nail the fundamentals, you'll get good groups at 3yrd, then you can start working on improving those skills at 7yrds.

I'm all set to buy an FNX45 tactical with a Holsun but the lgs has a discounted HK45 tactical for $350 less. I don't see one, but is there any reason to consider the HK instead? Supressed range/HD use.

>>64095914
Honestly not really. The HK45 has reduced capacity for no reason other than “capacity doesn’t matter on military pistols” and they thought less rounds would make it more ergonomic

>>64095943
For the price I think the FN is better but I didn't want to accidentally miss a good deal or something since I'm not actually in love with the FN (I really want a green 92fs), but it seems like the best value.

>>64095983
>>64095983
>>64095983
NEW

>>64095818
just get a steel target
you won't know anything about how you're shooting, but you'll feel good inside when you make the steel ring

>>64095151
No, I am Aryan. As Hitler’s top guy, I find mixed race “people” to be an abomination.

>>64087450
Turns out that guy was kilt by a fellow airman

>>64096388
Asians are honorary aryans according to big H