Thread 64091491

It's happening

Again

LFG

Oh noes,not the precious bombers. War crime!

Someone should shoot Syrski

>>64091491 (OP)
>out of cars
Logistics rip

>cars
airdefense protect bombers from car menace, activate S-300 ground attack mode against highways

>>64091505
Every Lada an enemy vehicle. Search every boot.

>>64091532
why search? They might be boobytrapped, just shoot on sight

>>64091491 (OP)
So is this a show of force before the Trump and Putin meeting to split up the Ukraine? Why would the Ukrainians do this if they were serious about peace? I thought Mr. Trump said his deadline to end the war was tomorrow? Or was that the deadline to put a deadline on ending the war?

>>64091491 (OP)
at night? no way

so much for peace talks lmao

>>64091538
But my son died in SMO for this lada!

>>64091568
Is of necessary sacrifice. Please enjoy a 3 month supply of puffy Cheeto's.

>>64091580
and this ticket to SMO

>>64091491 (OP)
gotta be bullshit, I refuse to believe this could happen again after the whole trick got exposed. that video looks like it's from June.

I will believe it when we see confirmed new footage

>>64091602
>after the whole trick got exposed
and how Russians are going to counter it?

>>64091564
the whole concept of peace talks with these zigger animals is disingenuous, they started a war of conquest and literally the only reason they're asking for "peace" is so they can demand ukraine stop resisting and just allow themselves to get slaughtered.
that's it. there is no actual attempt at peace from the russians, they're just losers that can't win without the enemy side essentially being strongarmed and forced to fight with both arms behind their backs, and even that's not good enough so now their legs need to be tied too.

>>64091604
put their bombers in shelters
put up a road patrol around air bases and don't let trucks park next to them
don't allow Ukraine to set up drone factories a couple blocks away from the FSB office

>>64091602
i already said back then that it was gonna happen again and nobody listened to me.
the fundamental issues that allow these attacks to happen, that being russia's corruption, bad checks and balances, and porous border, are all needed to keep their fucked up system from collapsing.
they can't just start checking every vehicle that comes into russia because they desperately need all the smuggled goods coming in.

>>64091564
>russia keeps attacking
I sleep
>russia keeps launching air strikes against civilian targets
I sleep
>ukraine strikes military target
WTF ARE YOU DOING THERE MAY BE A CEASEFIRE AT SOME INDETERMINATE POINT IN THE FUTURE (RUSSIA WON'T HONOR IR BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO)

>>64091602
My brown friend, the video isn't from this attack, but placed as example "for illustrative purposes",it deep night time in "european" parts of russia now

>>64091618
still, I don't see any reporting on it elsewhere. high chance it's bs.

All Bears and Fullbacks must fucking hang. TBD

>LFG
what instance and role?

>>64091613
Russia doesnt have any shelters large enough to house bombers. Sure, they have some basic maintenance hangars that might work against simple drones, but those are few and far between.
t. autist who has spent well over a decade looking up base infrastructure.

>>64091618
People outside russia have no idea just how deep the corruption and "not my problem" attitude lie within the culture

>>64091602
>Russian and Ukrainian sources working together to trick decadent West
Ok bud.

>>64091613
that literally doesn't solve anything?
1. There are more targets than only bombers, like fighter jets, not all of them have concrete bunkers
2. range of drones is 10+ km, to check every single car, on every single road near every airbase will require tens of thousands of soldiers just doing that and nothing else. You can launch drones from things besides trucks too
3. and that won't prevent from assembling drones
Good job, you prevented Spiderweb from happening after it happened! And didn't defend almost at all from all other possible versions of it from happening

>>64091602
What do you think they could do to stop it happening again?
The only counter is hard kill AA at every airbase and no country is close to having that let alone Russia

>>64091613
I know the world move fast these days but try to remember Operation Spiderweb happened 70 days ago. They likely haven't awarded contracts for shelters yet assuming they have the budget and workforce.

>>64091648
>you prevented Spiderweb from happening after it happened
yes they should be doing that or it will happen again

>>64091564
As if pidorstan honored the Budapest Memorandum? Any agreement between Ukraine and monke wouldn't be worth the paper it'd be printed on, the only solution is TZD

>>64091637
Darth Malgus, Hoth 1, NEED A HEALER NO DPS NO DPS

>>64091657
>They likely haven't awarded contracts for shelters yet assuming they have the budget and workforce.
it would take like a week for some construction battalion mobiks to throw up some steel frame shelters with a fence or some shit over it to stop FPVs getting through

>>64091657
Reports are about drones in Rostov, Engels and Saratov, not where bombers are.
And based on post-Spiderweb attack patterns Russian strategic aviation is no longer a threat, they are launching few missiles at a time and bombers are launched from Siberia. There are MANY better targets right now

>>64091660
because you're not defending against Spiderweb 2.0 and 3.0

>>64091677
Yeah but they can hit drone factories with Lyutiy drones whenever they want.

Bombers on the other hand move all the time and it is pretty easy to takeoff when you are warned of an incoming attack in the Arctic circle launched from fucking Kharkiv a million miles away. Sneak attacks from cars and trains are ideal for this, because you can get close before someone raises the alarm

>>64091660
>yes they should be doing that
How? Pic related is a 10km radius ring around my local RAAF base, it contains ~180,000 people.
You could rent of buy any of those houses to fly the drones from.

>>64091657
>he only counter is hard kill AA at every airbase and no country is close to having that let alone Russia
To be fair the Norks do have that.

>>64091627
Noel is usually reliable, so I want to believe because it would be hilarious. Either way, by morning in Ukraine/Ruzzia time, we should know if it's bullshit or not.

>>64091673
Work was started immediately, but in their drunk state, they found themselves working on the base commander's dacha instead.

At the moment all I can see is Russians spazzing out on telegram. Last time there was video up within minutes.

>>64091697
ZU-23s aren't going to cut it, you need radar or optically guided AA.

>>64091491 (OP)
Putin (in sign language):
>me love my big steel bird
>me see it now

>>64091699
>Noel is usually reliable
Noel reports what is reported.
Several Russian telegram channels report that, so he reports that. Noel can't know if they are reporting truth or another Russian schizophrenia episode

>>64091673
>for some construction battalion mobiks
Sent to the frontlines years ago

>>64091682
i appreciate this joke

>>64091701
I want to believe it's real but the incoming Putin meeting makes me think it is more Russian false flag shit

>>64091677
>Russian strategic aviation is no longer a threat
still is, so more bombers should be destroyed

>>64091697
it would be funny watching Norks blowing up their own aircrafts trying to shoot down low flying drones over airfields

>>64091721
Anyone saying Russian strategic aviation is no longer a threat is a fucking retard. Even if operation spiderweb destroyed every single strategic bomber perfectly, there would still be at least a handful of strategic bombers still up and running

The biggest issue right now is tactical aviation though. With it, Russia has air superiority and Ukraine can't advance, only slow them down

>>64091677
>>64091721
Doesn't matter if it is or isn't a threat, it's a capability Russia desperately wants to keep and Ukraine can take away so they can be used as leverage even if they aren't hitting Ukraine.

>>64091720
Ukies always pull a big attack before negotiations, last time Moscow was on fire as talks started.

how quickly after the last strike did the onboard videos get released?

>>64091657
>The only counter is hard kill AA at every airbase
The first drone flies in to fuck up AA, the second drone fucks up air defenseless airbase

>>64091732
About 6 hours IIRC.

>>64091708
Of which they have in massive quantities both towed and SP.

>>64091673
That way there is no graft to be made dumbass

>>64091701
It's the middle of the night there, I doubt you'd be able to see anything

>>64091739
I'm very dubious of Nork claims and I wouldn't rule out every AA in the country going into a parade to make Kim clap.

>>64091728
Nah, it's a numbers game. Almost all military stuff, even more so with aviation, can't be used 100% of the time. Shit needs constant maintenance. Hence out of a fleet of 100 planes the ones which can fly right here and now are often just 40-60 planes at most. Thus, if ukies would remove 70% or more of the bomber fleet, the rest would just stop being that threatening due to it not being able to routinely be used as a launch vehicle or, if russians are retarded enough to continue pushing those airframes, they'd start disintegrating midflight at some point.

Eh, I'm not gonna sit up all night for this. If it's real, there'll be video when I wake up

>>64091739
The question is whether those systems are anywhere good enough to deal with FPVs and other similar systems. I'm sure they're more than capable of dealing with Ukie cessna-type drones, but FPVs seem beyond Pantsir's ability to handle, which on paper is a much more advanmced system than anything Best Korea has.

>>64091701
Any channel recommendations? The western ones are all sleeping

>>64091491 (OP)
AGAIN?

>>64091743
There'd still be some cunt filming blurry lights in the distance with is potato, and explosions.

>>64091774
We don't know if it is OPSEC or bullshit yet

>>64091766
everyone went to sleep, you to go. If it's true there will be videos in the morning, if not then there won't be anything

AGAIN?

>>64091564
Russia always does massive attacks just before any talk to extort and force a favorable proposal for them.
They're reaping what they sow.

>>64091710
>No bird
>All spall

>>64091730
>>64091790
So it sounds like this is slavic behavior

>>64091799
They both want to be able to smile smugly during talks.

>>64091776
They are super aggressive with internet shutdown these days

Reminder the Russian proposals were leaked. I don't use the word 'peace' because even they admit it is not a peace.

>Russia and Ukraine will conclude not a peace, but a ceasefire;

>It provides for the de facto recognition of Russian territorial gains (by postponing this issue for 49 or 99 years);

>Most anti-Russian sanctions are lifted;

>In the long term, there is a return to the import of Russian gas and oil;

>There are no guarantees of NATO non-expansion;

>No one promises to suspend military support for Ukraine.

>>64091657
>They likely haven't awarded contracts for shelters yet assuming they have the budget and workforce.
oh the order for the shelters went out all right
>Putin: Generals! we must be building shelters immediately! here is 200 million rubles for contract.
>General of air force: We must build new shelters for planes! here is 100 million rubles for construction.
>Major of military construction: Air force needs new shelters! here is 50 million rubles for materials.
>CEO of construction company: We just signed a new contract for shelters! what can we build with 10 million rubles?
>Pidor Pidorovich, head of construction site: Boss is saying we must build concrete shelters with 1 million rubles.
>Pajeet Bajuur the labor from india is send to the front lines

>>64091747
It's not Nork claims it's directly observed AA sites. They have 500 modernized KS-19s alone which is a really good gun for high altitude drones.

They do amazingly deceptive things with AA sites. My favorite is a whole series of sites that everyone assumed were abandoned decoy sites until satellites got good enough to figure out the truth: They were real sites disguised as abandoned decoy sites, like how Ukraine disguises jets by covering them with giant roll out pictures of destroyed aircraft..

>>64091763
No one really knows, the second most advanced SPAAG they have is the M1989 which is a shilka on top of a Chom'ho that they put modernish FCS on and jammed a AK-230 into. There is a more advanced one that is basically a tank with a AK-630 but there are no good images of it.

>>64091657
>What could russia do?

Maybe not be a corrupt shithole and have working internal security.

>>64091811
Lel, who cooked those up? No fucking way Zlonsky would agree to that kek.

>>64091829
Do you really thing an attack like Spiderweb wouldn't work in China, Germany, France or America?

>>64091829
I love how the nation that produced more towed AA guns in the history of the planet than anyone else now has no towed AA guns. Corruption is a real bitch.

>>64091845
Tbf nobody expected drone warfare to be this powerful in the 1970s

Lol a pr stunt

>>64091835
>who cooked those up?
Stephen Biegun, US President's special envoy.

>>64091850
But still, just ZU-23-2s the USSR made 140,000 of them. At one point they had 10k plus KS-19s which really confuses me because besides being a great AAA gun it is also an extremely effective long range artillery piece.

>>64091852
>blowing up valuable military hardware is a PR stunt
I mean I guess, but it's still better than blowing up a cancer hospital.

Im going to bed /k/
I expect any and all happenings to have blown over by the time I wake up

Nothing ever happens

It's bullshit, but I believe it. Nothing online about it. No videos. Nothing.

>>64091491 (OP)
Now you've gotten me excited.

>>64091811
>>64091867
>presenting a proposal that both Ukraine and Russia will ultimately refuse
I don't get it

>>64091960
I mean it's basically the same shit Trump proposed last time, except Russia was retarded and didn't take it. Try again because Trump wants this monkey off his back because the alternative is;

1. Do nothing
2. Actually help Ukraine

>>64091564
peace agreement with russia is a death sentence delayed by couple years

>no videos
I don't buy it. If Ukraine actually did it again, they'd be strutting it all over the place.

>>64092010
It's currently dead of night over there, but there are reports of shit blowing up at Millerovo in Rostov. One can hope!

https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/
status/1953600919632769221

>>64091966
It's not gonna work this time, either.

Jurassic Park moment.
>brought you by Michael Bay

>>64091981
You cannot trust any kind of deal Russia puts forward. On top of that, you can no longer count on the US for safety guarantees either with Orange retard and his short bus of sycophantic pedo enablers in office. On top of that, you have to count on the American public to not be retarded and fall for more Russian Hybrid Warfare.
>inb4 Russiagate was a hoax
>inb4 Dem shill
>inb4 "this postglows"
The Internet Research Agency's whole exitance mutes those points entirely. On top of that, the presence of Indian and SEA monkey's shilling Russian talking points from here to Boomerbook show that they're only expanding and subcontracting their shitposting. Don't get me started on the Israeli astroturfing and shilling whenever they get caught with their pants down.