Thread 64091909

Has your opinion of Glock changed over time?

They're utilitarian while slightly lacking in the ergonomic department. As far as striker fired handguns go I prefer M&Ps, but Glocks also just work.

For like 20-30 years they basically ran circles around everything else but especially in the last 10 years we've kinda been drowning in quality reliable handguns.

>>64091909 (OP)
meh to my kinda meh. i've never had an issue with one i've owned. if I lived in a free state i'd be more tempted to try something else.

>>64091909 (OP)
Yeah I used to think they were boring and gay. Now I think they're boring and the only striker pistol worth owning/carrying.

>>64091909 (OP)
Its all i need but its no longer all i want

I don't like the stock triggers but those can be replaced and it's been years since I last fired one. But they just work the way an AR does so I can't hate them.

>>64091941
Pretty much this. Glock set the standard and as long as they keep doing Glock things they're going to remain the standard. A Glock should be everyone's first pistol but not necessarily everybody's last pistol.

>>64091944
>I don't like the stock triggers but those can be replaced and it's been years since I last fired one
The gen 5 triggers are really good. I highly recommend trying one.

No, I always considered them for what they are : a generic, law-enforcement oriented sidearm. They're not bad, they're not particularly good either, they're just OK for the price. I personally dislike them for their lack of originality and awful trigger pull.

>>64091909 (OP)
no, I still know they're ugly, unsafe, and unpleasant

bait used to be believable

>>64091963
>unsafe

>>64091983
enjoy your glock leg

>>64091983
see >>64091969
you gotta stop feeding them

>>64092000
>dA tRoLlS
Reddid isn't here faggo

>>64092015
yet here you are

>>64091929
>For like 20-30 years they basically ran circles around everything else but especially in the last 10 years we've kinda been drowning in quality reliable handguns.
Putting that another way, they have a 40 year track record that most memeshit on the market today doesn't have. Sure, they don't innovate much, but that's kind of the point. You can buy a Gen 5 Glock and know it'll be every bit as reliable as a Gen 3, it has the exact same manual of arms and the exact same controls, and so forth.

>>64091944
>>64091961
Glock triggers are perfectly fine how they are (especially once they get worn in a bit or you do a .25c trigger job to speed up the process) and plenty of people shoot well with them. I don't know why so many people bitch about this, why would you want a shorter, lighter trigger on a striker-fired pistol without a manual safety? That's how you end up with Sigcidents.

My only real complaint is with the shitty ridged target triggers, but that's an import law thing, and it's simple enough to replace them with an OEM smooth-faced trigger. Otherwise, I've tried out countless aftermarket triggers and always gone back to stock/OEM.

They set the standard, but now everything that isn't complete catastrophic failure (P320) is above that standard. Still if you don't have the money for a VP9, don't trust gen 3 clones or the m&p, then you get a glock

>>64091909 (OP)
Yeah, it's gotten worse

>>64091909 (OP)
Of course, when I first saw a Glock 19 I thought square handguns were ugly as hell (Hi-Power supremacy); now the look has grown on me.

>>64091929
In the late 1980s, the Beretta 92 and SIG P226 were king. Glock wasn't running circles around anything.

>>64091909 (OP)
>gen 3
Kino
>4 and 5
No opinion no experience, im an m&p fanboy but still luv me gen 3

>>64091909 (OP)
Yes but only the gen 3 19

>>64091909 (OP)
Gen 5 is fantastic. Best striker. IYKYK, and most on /k/ don't know.

>>64091909 (OP)
Used to be a true boomer, hated Tupperware,.45 AARP God's caliber, 2 wolrd wars, etc... Then I started carrying all the time. 1911 got heavy. Commander got heavy. Lightweight commander got not fun to shoot. Picked up cop surp 3rd gen Glock 23 for cheap. Easy to carry, easy to shoot. Been shooting and carrying it ever since. Sold 1911s, got a USP45 Elite to shoot my stocks of .45. Only steel guns I own now are 9mm target pistols.

>>64092348
>1911 got heavy. Commander got heavy
Lol

yeah.
like other posters itt.
when i got into guns i was neo-boomerfudd in handgun preferences for some reason.
>its gotta be steel
>gotta have a hammer
>gotta be chambered in a real mans caliber
>iron sights only.
etc etc all that bullshit.
then one day i impulsively bought a glock 17 and an acro p2.
first range trip i realized holy crap this dumb plastic thing shoots pretty dang good and then i realized its also a lot lighter and easier to carry.
so now im like. yeah i'd like to be sonny crockett and carry a bren 10 or a fullsize 1911 and wear armani suits and drive a testarossa and all that.
but i'm just a regular old retard and a glock 17 serves me just fine.
so here we are. thanks for reading my blog and have a blessed day

>>64091961
That's how I've always felt too, but I've started to dislike them because they keep getting more and more popular. By 2015, just about every company had a strong Glock competitor that did everything better for the same price, and there was more variety in those offerings like paddle mag releases. Since then, Glock has seemingly taken over more of the market share despite doing absolutely nothing to earn it, and I don't get it. They're not a good value anymore, just stop buying them.

>>64092516
NTA but the blue label and department pricing is very difficult to beat.

>>64091909 (OP)
At first I thought they were a boring, ugly gun that didn't do anything special. Then I realized that they were amazingly simple and reliable designs that do everything you need a gun to do. Now I'm back to thinking that they are boring, ugly guns that don't do anything special.

>>64092566
I think the Glock is perfect for LEOs and duty use, but I struggle to see the appeal of a $600 19 MOS in a market flooded with options.

>>64091909 (OP)
It's a gun that does gun things and that's all it ever needed to be and do.

I'm impressed by just how braindead simple it is. Without removing safeties and maybe the slide release I can't think of any way to continue reducing the part count. The only pistol even simpler that comes to mind is the Makarov.
The best part about Glocks is the insane amount of accessories available. Not retarded homo shit like unnecessary hardware upgrades but having the widest holster selection for any pistol out there. If you're carrying, CC or open, chances are you'll more easily find a holster that works for you and chances are it'll be for some kind of Glock.
Sure there are better guns out there but deciding between a great gun and a possibly uncomfortable holster vs a Glock and a comfortable holster is kinda difficult.

>>64092591
I just spend the extra money to have the holster custom made. If you're going to spend money, you should get something of good value instead of something off the shelf.

>>64092587
See I've got a DD214 so I only pay about 70% of that. FWIW I agree in the current market if you are talking retail pricing. Now that Gaston is dead maybe they'll have new ideas.

>>64091909 (OP)
>Has your opinion of Glock changed over time?
>Isildur.gif
Being an oldfag I have, and never will, like that faggoty grip angle.

IMO, and that's also most people born anytime after 1981, Glocks will always be poorfag and non-White guns.

>>64091909 (OP)
Second gun I shot after a versa 22, was a Rental gen 3 g21, I hated the blocky grip the slippery feel, the slide felt like Teflon coated, recoil wise wasn't bad but had a lasting impression that I didn't like it and didn't fit.

So I went and bought a SW 686 got used to DA, muzzle blast and such.
Then Went for a hi power with no mag safety, great ergos, good trigger.

And finally went one day to the GS and finger fucked a gene g19, and realized the trigger wasn't as bad, the grip was better and it wasn't Teflon coated anymore.

I tried other polymer Walther PPQ, SW m&p, sig 2022, Beretta PX4, the Steyr. I find the ppl Steyr and mp kinda better than the Glocks but idgaf anymore pistol is good enough

>>64091909 (OP)
Yes
I thought they were the gold standard of striker fired pistols with how people gargle Glock cum online until I purchased one and realized every control is awful, ergonomics are awful, the very light frame makes them feel like a toy, the trigger is meh, and they have an incredible tendency to jam every round if you hand them to someone who doesn't shoot regularly.
Mine also likes to spit hot brass into my face and onto my wrists.
They're probably great pistols if you can't afford to or have no intention of purchasing something more modern or more thoughtfully designed.

>>64091909 (OP)
Absolutely hated them growing up, thought the square angles were lego-like. Then once I lost my adult gun ownership v card I suddenly fell in love with them. Then I realized they're the most basic ass toyota corolla middle of the road reliable choice and came to terms with that.

One day i'll own a 17 or 19 but i'm happy with my leo trade in 22 till then. Thanks for reading my Ted talk

>>64091909 (OP)
There's a reason why 2/3rds of the world's police departments and a good number of military forces use them.
>Simple
>Time tested, battle proven desgin that hasn't fundmentally changed in almost a half century
>You can beat the living fuck out of it and drown it in mud and treat it like a complete nigger, and as long as you can rack the slide, a Glock with fucking shoot

>>64092745
Not necessarily. My friends clock fell off the edge of the boat and it took a complete disassembly and cleaning to get it to fire again a couple weeks later.

>>64091909 (OP)
I now merely consider it mildly unpleasant to look at rather than staggeringly ugly.

>>64092810
You and your friend are a pair of lying apes, glocks can shoot underwater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZ9Cvtz7f0

>>64092858
Brother, the striker channel was grimed up. Even the shitty 320 can shoot underwater

>>64092858
>a couple weeks later
Did you think there was still water in the gun?

Best $300 dollar pistol you can buy for $600 and drop another $1000 into.

I was meh on them for a while, nothing about them appealed to me outside of the modularity, then I got deeper into gun culture and the number of Glucks praising it as the second coming of Christ killed any interested I’d ever have in it. It’s Fine. It does the thing it’s supposed to, but it’s entirely overrated. If you can get one cheap to do a stupid meme build it’s worth it, otherwise just buy basically anything else.

>>64093006
The best part is Ruger showing that you can sell a better version of the Glonk for less

>>64091909 (OP)
nope still like em

>>64091909 (OP)
>pfft glocks suck im not going to buy a glock like my dad
>1911 better
>sig better
>berreta better
>cz is better
> s&w better
> a decade later all the other not glocks have had issues or developed issues over the years. to the point i dont trust them or expect parts to fail and have spares on hand.
>dads glock just keeps going bang with zero issues over the years and minimal maintenance.
>other not glocks are almost constant babying
>huh glock actually made a good gun should have just used this in the first place.
not to say other guns didnt have advantages over glock but glock was good enough and never failed to bang.
>buy own glock it just works
>buy a few more glocks
contrarianism only goes so far

They are very uninspiring guns that only do the bare minimum of what a gun should do. The worst part about them is the fanbase, which is cultish and exasperating

>>64093039
How is your shit constantly breaking? What are you doing dude, I've got a budget ass Security 9 and all I do is wipe it down with an oil rag

ITT: no one remembers how they were EXTREMELY unpopular 20+ years ago and were memed into the ground as hand grenades

Shift in the larger public opinion on them came around, say, 2010 or so.

I swear I see 10x more people whining about Glock turbofanbois than I see the fanbois. The majority of people who like Glock that I see are pretty mellow about it and are up front about its lack of dazzle.

>>64093052
Nah, they were extremely unpopular with the kind of Boomers who lurk arfcom who latched onto the Glocknade as a Boomer One Joke. Those loud opinions on the internet didn't translate to real life where Glocks were widely used.

>be me 10 years ago
>"glocks seem pretty good, think i'll buy one soon."
>researching glocks
>considering a glock 21 for that impressive 13+1 of .45
>start watching Police Activity videos
>"wow, there's tons of body camera shootings on here"
>start noticing a pattern
>TONS of glocks jamming
>see a rare M&P or Sig jam, but 90%+ of the time, its a glock
>point this out on /k/
>glockfags sperg out
>"GLOCKS JAM THE MOST BECAUSE THEY'RE SO POPULAR!"
>point out that it's almost always a glock jamming, and glocks are 50% of the cop market at best
>"PROOFS?!"
>post some examples
>"he- he limpwristed it... muh user error..."
>start collecting dozens and dozens of webms of glocks jamming during shootouts
>glocks jamming left and right, even when the cop is in a perfect shooting stance
>glockfags get really quiet all of a sudden
>as the years went on, I came here less and less
>somewhere on my hard drive is a text document full of youtube links and timestamps
>but at least i can ctrl_f "glawk" and find some of the pics and webms i made
My opinion of Glock has changed over time.
But my opinion of Glock fans changed far more.

>>64093057
I'm glad you have this happy experience but that's not mine. Constantly having to justify my choices or make some kind of persuasive argument for why a gun that is not trying to be a Glock is still okay

>>64093039
>a decade later all the other not glocks have had issues or developed issues over the years
No, no they haven't.

>>64093068
In the gun community? They really weren't.

>>64091909 (OP)
no, the only reason to have one, is because you have one, and everyone else has one, and thus everyone has mags

>>64091909 (OP)
It's super ugly and cheap looking from day one and will be forever. Especially that toy like trigger guard.

>>64093079
The gun "community" back then, especially online, was being lead around by the nose by a bunch of retarded Boomers. It didn't reflect how widespread and accepted Glocks were among people and organizations that use guns as tools.

>>64093103
Fake. PDs were dumping Glock left and right. It's literally how the M&P got its foot in the door to be the number 2 police pistol (until 320 dropped)

>>64093103
Competitive shooters hardly touched them.
Military didn't touch them.
Police saw the widest use, but nowhere even remotely near the proliferation seen today.
"gun community" they had a notable following but weren't terribly popular.

You weren't actually around back then were you.

>>64093069
Thank you for your service

>>64091909 (OP)
I used to hate them because they looked like a brick had triggers that broke like a plastic straw, the ergonomics of a 2x3, stock sights that were made for hitting 24 inch plates at 50 yards
But now I see them for what they are, perfectly adequate and utilitarian as fuck so it’s cool in the end
I carry a Glock 43x and trust my life to it, it just works

>>64093135
>Actually carrying the jamomatic block
Brave soul

>>64093051
actually shooting
high roundcounts cause parts failure
not a big deal if springs need to be replaced but when 1 gun is going longer without anything needing to be replaced it sticks out
all of those guns had more ammo put through them than they were worth

>>64093146
I still call bullshit. My shitty budget blaster is probably getting to 20k at this point and I don't need to replace anything on it. AND that's with making constant trips to the range, so I don't know how you wore out that many guns in that short amount of time. You are lying, 100%.

>>64093151
think what you want. none of the guns were worn out just something went wrong or small parts had to be replaced. its a shame when a gun you like becomes something you dont trust. some of those guns listed i shoot better than the glock.

>>64091929
Quality reliable handguns have existed since the late 19th century, and it's not like everyone aside from Gaston Glock just forgot how to make those until the early to mid 2010s

>>64093157
You're absolutely lying. If you're at the round count where you would be needing to recycle out parts, you would also need to be cycling out parts on the Glock. They're not made of Austrian magic that never wears out.

>>64093157
Glocks have a part schedule too, and it's not all that different from something like the M&P or the 226. You don't actually shoot.

>>64093164
i think the only thing i did with the glock was a recoil spring and that was preemptive. broke the locking block on the berreta + recoil spring,dont really have any bad feelings on the 92 but the bulk. pretty much every spring on a cz75 with 3 trs trying to troubleshoot. smith ate an extractor. 1911 was just mag fuckery ammo sensitivity and annoyance troubleshooting. with certain mags its fine but at the same time mags i used to trust turned to ehh probably. just annoying in general. sig lol sig i dont think i actually kept it long enough for stuff to go wrong before i offloaded it in a trade.

>>64093167
>Glocks have a part schedule too,
of course they do but theres a difference between yeah i should probably replace this and hey this shits actually broken or its not cycling.
glock made it past the recommended, the rest broke early or around when they said it should.
cz is bullshit.
if you dont want to believe me think what you want. its one of those lessons you only learn if you do it.

>>64093185
>>64093175
>Saying cz is bullshit
Absolute shill

>>64093266
yeh defend cz unconditionally despite everyone who actually shoots calling them unreliable you basedboi

>mag drops
>slide limpwrists

>>64093300
>Everyone who actually shoots
I imagine that's why they're not featured in competition or military service

>>64093328
no modern military is still fielding 75 and serious competitors buy 2 to have a backup when first one breaks

>>64093337
Except these guys I guess

>>64093341
ah yes the unitedstates and their issue service pistol the cz 75
post something not obviously wrong

>>64093175
>>64093185
>shilling the worst shooting gun
>complaining about parts schedule he isn't following
Nigga just get a taurus or something. It's what you deserve

>>64091909 (OP)
No, I always considered them a lowest-bidder-wins-contract plastic pistol made by a company that literally made plastic sporks for the conscript army with the only remarkable trait being that retarded mutts somehow consider it the pinnacle of pistols since their domestic hand-filed boomer 1911s and haas-cnc-in-a-garage billet milled are comically unreliable in comparison.

The recent sig drama has shown that it only takes mutt culture a few years to strip concepts of "engineering" and "quality control" out of a company set up by people who knew what they were doing.

>>64093345
its sad when people invest their ego into guns cause they cant afford to experiment

>>64093344
The P-07/9 is super popular with MPS across Europe. You're talking out your ass

>>64093352
You know it's really funny you should say that because everything you're saying smacks somebody who doesn't actually use anything of quality. If you're scraping the bottom of the barrel then yeah, a Glock is going to seem good and reliable. But if you compare it to anything of real build quality it's just a cheap duty pistol.

>>64093354
>But if you compare it to anything of real build quality it's just a cheap duty pistol.
no shit a glocks not as good as a custom or semicustom but everything it was compared to was also a cheap duty pistol, sig, berreta, cz, smith, 1911 all production guns.

>>64093352
How does not following the parts schedule say anything about experimenting? It's just an averaged expectation of when you need to replace a part, and all pistols have them. Glocks don't even have particularly long schedules.

>>64093374
? The M&P2 has been proven to require less maintenance and have a longer lifespan than a Glock. Just because you are an idiot and somehow fucked your extractor doesn't mean that's not true. The things you're saying sound bogus

>>64093390
it was a m&p 1 why the fuck would i buy a 2 if my experince with the 1 was shit?
all these guns were roughly 10-15 years old

>>64091909 (OP)
I am not melaninated enough to ever hold G Lock in high esteem.
So no, my opinion has not changed.

>>64091909 (OP)
I kind of want a Gen5 G17L having done some reading on the changes they made. Not enough to drop the 800 bucks they want for it, but if I found one used for 400 I'd probably buy it.

>>64092055
>I don't know why so many people bitch about this
Have you shot a Walther or a M&P? That's why. There's absolutely no reason for it to be as terrible as it is

>>64091909 (OP)
Yes.
Meh to absolute no soul.
It works, but its alao soulless gun incarnate.

My opinion of them used to be super low because of webms like this, which highlighted how much all pistols need a manual safety. But the recent P320 shit made me like glocks somewhat more. At least glocks don't go off spontaneously.

>>64092055
Glock triggers are particularly heavy not because of safety but because they are designed as law enforcement service weapons and are meant to be used in high stress conditions. I get this and I don't blame Glock for making them this way. It's just that it makes them bad for civilian use.

>>64093593
>Have you shot a Walther or a M&P? That's why. There's absolutely no reason for it to be as terrible as it is
listen i used to be contrarian for the sake of it too. sooner or later you are going to go to camp glock. just buy one now and enjoy it sooner then wasting money for years on meme shit

>>64093668
Actually, it's a heavy trigger because glocks are inherently half-cocked all the time. The trigger pull is what tightens the striker spring to full tension. This is a safety mechanism. The p320 has a full cocked striker all the time and it's why the gun goes bang if the striker retention measures fail. Conversely, a glock would just have a light primer strike.

>>64091909 (OP)
When I was just getting into guns I thought Glocks were ugly, boring, dangerous (per lack of manual safety) and overall just lame. Now as I’ve gotten older, had more experience and learned more I realize Glocks are actually pretty sweet. They’re utilitarian, reliable, actually extremely safe, easy to use and modular as hell. I have 3 Glocks, a first production 19 Gen 5 that I carried for a few years, a 19 Gen 5 MOS that I replaced my old Glock with and a 43x MOS that I just bought as my “summer carry”.
Pic related, it’s my glawks.

>>64093668
The glock’s kinda heavy trigger is a side effect of it’s “safety” feature where the striker is always at a “half-cock” position. I’m sure when designing it the whole heavier trigger thing was a big happy accident having to do with everything you mentioned but it wasn’t like “We want the trigger to be on the heavier side for law enforcement safety”. I don’t mind the stock trigger myself, even though it’s not very good.

Why do my groups suck with a Glock? What am I doing wrong?

>>64093724
Probably just the trigger, just dry fire with a glock more.

I understand they are objectively good guns however I dont really enjoy shooting them

>>64093681
If you think Walther is meme shit, you're retarded

>>64093690
>>64093711
This is fuddshit. The striker is mostly cocked and definitely already has enough energy to fire. It just increases the length of pull to be comparable to DA revolvers

>>64093771
i dont give a shit. i have a glock that i dont have to worry about. i can get parts at anytime at my doorstep with in a day. thats all i care about

>>64093775
Shut up faggot, don’t ever correct my fuddlore again.

>>64093788
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

>>64093775
Forgotten Weapons literally made a video that went over this like 11 days ago. It's all true.

>>64093810
I'm sure he did. He's wrong if he says it's somehow a safety measure, as proven by multiple people

>>64093788
>>64093681
Shut up, fagit. Hammers for life.

sig saars getting antsy

>>64093848
Nobody is talking about sig, fag. Go back to your containment thread

>>64093815
>as proven by multiple people
Oh sod off. Ian has never been wrong.

Yes. I thought they were boring and lame. Then I got familiar with them, having shot maybe 500~ rounds through glocks. Now I just think they're boring. Perfectly fine gun but nothing more.

>>64093879
I suppose those primers going off were just doctored in

After the sig debacle it's made me trust my glock a lot more

>Has your opinion of Glock changed over time?
i have two Glocks, G17 G3 i've owned for 20 years and a G19 G4 i've owned for 10 years and i think next year i'll get a 3rd. thinking of the new one that's a G19 slide on a G17 frame with the Acro cut. so i guess the answer is no.

>>64091909 (OP)
No.
It has always been, and will always be, Perfection.

>>64092516
The aftermarket for a Glock makes ownership a no brainer. I can throw my Glock into a wood chipper and have an identical setup within a week. Meanwhile finding a holster and light combo for a USP is a massive migraine.

>>64091909 (OP)
Ya I went from liking them to liking them more

>>64092516
You need to stop being such a numbersfag and actually shoot guns more. On paper you are 100% correct, in real life things work a little differently. It's like how going from a 16" AR to a 14.5" AR feels like you now have this super short SBR. It's something that doesn't make sense as I explain it to you here now over text, and on paper it's just 1.5 inches, but something about that length registers differently in your brain and feels much more than it actually is. Who's to say though, I am White and this is how my brain works, you may be a browny and your brain is all fucked up. Anyways Glocks are fine and do everything great, you just gotta improve your own shooting skill and stop blaming the gun and you realize they are just about perfect

>>64091909 (OP)
When you do a lot of shooting you realize that Glocks shoot really flat. They aren't flashy and don't have features like a thumb rest and an FCU but they have all the essential characteristics that really matter and are dead simple to maintain. They are simpler than comparable strikers like the MP and Walther. Plus you have the market penetration to be able to mod them however you want. Also very mechanically accurate. The more I shoot and get away from gunsooming the more I appreciate the brand. All a stock Glock really needs to excel is some grip tape and a dot.

Imo the worst thing about Glocks is that the factory triggers are different on every gun. Some are mushy and some have a much firmer wall. The grip works for my hands well but it isn't for everyone. Now that Gaston is dead I hope his wife doesn't let private equity enshittify the company.

I also enjoy that neo-fudds get buttmad. It filters casuals.

>>64093052
People used to associate Glocks with niggers, now I can confidently say, no matter how much contrarianism is still going on, they are a White man's gun. Every White boy I see packing is using a Glock meanwhile browns are using anything else. It's funny how things change but I think LEO trade ins being cheap is what initially started this trend as Glock being the nigger gun. Once people looked past that they realized Glocks are being used by a bunch of serious players and are super reliable and durable and the vision on them changed, especially as other budget pistols dropped on the market and gobbled up the poor negro buyers

>>64096107
>When you do a lot of shooting you realize that Glocks shoot really flat.
That is true; they have a lower bore axis than all their competitors.

>>64093724
In my experience, the most common mistake people make when they're starting the hobby is that they aim too much. Shooting is very simple, you have to keep the sights in alignment and press the trigger without moving the gun. If you're aiming too much, it guides you into breaking the shot right as your sight picture is perfect, leading to you jerking the trigger, making the gun move before the trigger is fully pressed, leading to misses. Practice with dry firing until you can press the trigger without moving the gun. Then put some rounds through the gun while making sure to get the trigger pull as smooth as you can. Don't even bother aiming. Aiming is pointless before you can operate the trigger without moving the gun. When you can shoot without jerking the trigger, you can start looking at the sights. And then let the sight picture sway naturally, and focus on the trigger pull alone. Slowly, you'll improve and eventually all the shots go exactly where you intend.

Glocks have terrible triggers and awful sights, which actually makes them good practice guns. They're hard to shoot well with, so when you train yourself to be a good marksman with them and then later on pick up a better pistol, you'll find that you shoot the superior gun much better.

>>64091909 (OP)
I still think they're blocky cheap feeling toys after firing several over the years. But even I can't deny how they serve a role in military and police departments everywhere. And their extremely mide after market parts

>>64092640
>hated the blocky grip the slippery feel, the slide felt like Teflon coated, recoil wise wasn't bad but had a lasting impression that I didn't like it and didn't fit.
This exactly my first impression too
>>64093624
Kek! How do you even let this happen?

>>64096107
>When you do a lot of shooting you realize that Glocks shoot really flat.
Go shoot a steel frame 9mm for once.

>>64096118
Niggers use tons of glocks in chicago, because they all have Temu glock switches

>>64096107
Literally any metal frame is flatter than Glock

>>64091959
NTA but my big problem with the Glock trigger has always been the shoe itself.

>>64096118
Only a Glockfag would say that somebody not preferring their pistol is contrarianism.

>>64093069
>I have dedicated the majority of my adult life to compiling videos of guns jamming just to own anonymous image board users
This isn't something I would admit even under torture.

>>64096842
>the majority of my adult life
>>implying it takes the majority of someone's adult life to compile a few dozen instances of glocks jamming

>>64091909 (OP)
I like them. I have a couple of Glocks and Glock clones. It is nice to have all of the compatibility between holsters and mags. I like the F150/Civic tier parts bin and compatibility with mags and holsters.

The biggest issue with glock has always been the abhorrent insane followers that will badmouth and well poison the rest of gun community to further their often irrational, extreme agendas and be completely intolerant to any differing preference or criticism.

Beyond that it for a long time was one of the cheapest guns to buy for a police department compared to the competition, in contrast to their $200 civlian markup. On today's market there are handguns that are better than glock in every respect that sell for closer to its real price as well.

>>64093069
not a hero we deserve but a hero we need

>>64096908
I love having a fucking Glonker tell me my gun sucks because it's better

>>64091909 (OP)
Glocks are pure 80s sovl, but if you're buying a g19 a Ruger RXM is a direct upgrade AND it's $200 cheaper (unless you're left handed doe). Glock still makes the least retarded 10mm, relevant if you live in bear country or something

>>64097067
>Glock still makes the least retarded 10mm
How so?

>>64097067
The one that explodes you nignog?

No

>>64092627
>>Has your opinion of Glock changed over time?
>>Isildur.gif
>Being an oldfag I have, and never will, like that faggoty grip angle.
>IMO, and that's also most people born anytime after 1981, Glocks will always be poorfag and non-White guns.

THIS 100%

IMO, the main problem with glocks is that it's super easy to accidently drop your magazine in a high stress situation. They also need a manual safety.

Im uninterested in them with the exception of the G40, which I really want to take hunting

>>64091909 (OP)
I can respect them, they're popular for good reasons, but personally I just do not like the feel of them; I suppose I could put the blame on handling SAAs, M1911s and guns with weird grip angles like the Luger for causing said dislike.

>>64091909 (OP)
>used to be a meme grenade gun that would kill your hand
>get to know them more over time
>just a cheap plastic gun, plastic guiderod, terrible takedown system, stupid proprietary rail, overall dum gun

>>64092015
You really want to be a 4channeler amirite ;)

>>64097116
>grip angle
This is the main reason I never went Glock
angle and the pistols' ergonomics

>>64097122
Why is he dropping a magazine with rounds still in it on the pavement? Was he not taught how to do a proper tactical reload?

>>64097281
High speed, low drag

>>64097291
Why is he spending extra time to rack the slide if he already has a round in the chamber?

>>64097281
iirc (its been years, so i could be wrong) he already accidentally hit the mag release once, although the mag didnt entirely drop free.

So the pistol failed to pick up a round, and the chamber was empty.

>>64097297
HIGH
SPEED
LOW
DRAG

>>64093624
Or, hear me out, you could buy a holster that isn't dogshit and actually has active retention
The only time you should ever even consider open carrying without an active retention holster is when you're in the middle of nowhere, otherwise it's more of a liability than anything

>>64097786
All you need is a thumb break